EVALUATING THE NEW 53 MAN DEPTH CHART. IT’s OUT. WHAT DOES IT MEAN FOR THE TEAM?

what's up to Lion talk live we love you too buddy what's going on guys it is Aiden Hutchinson what's up man it's your boy almond Ross name Brown what's up everybody it's Calvin Johnson Jr here aka me Shrine AKA first ballot what's going on Coach Dan at lion talk live in the D crew this is ballhawk eatu Malu of the Detroit Lions everybody make sure you help support the YouTube channel lion live by clicking that like And subscribe button let's get it and go Detroit greetings and salutations to everyone out there in YouTube land this is Dan Skipper offensive weapon for the Detroit Lions make sure you all help support Lions talk live coach Dan by clicking on that like And subscribe button everybody woo w I love nothing more than watching Lion talk live every morning woo and here's my question everybody out there how many of you love watching Lion's talk live every morning greetings and salutations to everybody out there on YouTube land I am your host once again Dan Thorton I want to thank you all each and every one of you for joining us here today Lions talk live Morning Show Edition you know what I think we've got some good news coming for you it's a little something to debate and get into today and that is hey the reveal of the The Unofficial Lions 53 man roster who's going to make it who's we on the depth chart all that kind of stuff we want to get into that today but before we do you guys know we got five headlines now we do have some NFC North news and updates to get through and then also if you haven't yet subscribed to Lion talk live please consider doing so making that push for 7200 subs and we're about I think 80 Subs 85 Subs away somewhere right around there so also if you enjoy the channel content here within everything within the show go ahead and hit that thumbs up the like button as you probably already know by now if you watch YouTube for any kind of length of time it helps the channel out a lot helps it grow helps it develop helps people who haven't yet 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Giants versus Lions joint practice three matchups to watch this is from Giants country Story by Anthony Luc cido uh City so excuse me um he's gonna go and point out a couple key matchups I think everybody's going to want to watch I know one of them was Gibbs versus the Giants Rush def Kon Tibido against the Lions offensive tackles so a lot of different good matchups there's probably honestly more than three but if you want to start Scooby doing breaking things down go and check this out I would also say a lot of these matchups that the the Giants reporter is uh is talking about will be dependent on if um mcdc does play any significant starters I know he's already come out and said he's not planning on it but what I consider a starter what you consider cons a starter and what he considers a starter may be different but I do not anticipate any of the number ones playing this uh preseason for the Detroit Lions all right notes analyst reveals insights on Lion secondary this is from Sports Illustrated Story by John macaron uh most of you guys I know have seen this guy before he's been all over social media he's been on Woodward Sports among other ones crunch time Sports talking about the Lions and hey this is what he does for living but he does give some pretty good insights I believe John does in regards to Lion secondary their development who's potentially going to be on the first team or the starters so go ahead and check that out if you're looking for something to read today or leading up until Thursday all right quick takeaways from the first unofficial depth chart Lions wire so Jeff risden has his that came out I think it was yesterday uh we've got ours that's coming out obviously today so let's go ahead and talk about it compare them you want to listen to what we have to say what the dude crew has to say about their 53 man roster that's what we're going to do today and then if you want you can compare it to this one all right uh let's see Detroit Lions Madden 25 player rankings uh by position USA Today Story by Billy uh so riti um I I don't know how many people play Madden that watch the show I know some of you do you've mentioned it in the past it's one of the biggest debates for fans uh players every season when this comes around when the Madden game comes out or the rankings that the least come out you see everybody saying man this guy's too high too low you heard a little lot of players over the decades getting into it thinking that they should be much better but if you're a Detroit Lions fan you know what it's almost like a rightest passage to see where it's at the only thing I can say you know I've played the game it uh for the most part since it came out uh way back in the day on the computers uh back in the 80s so I played it that long of course Al means I've been around that long but uh I would I would say this that this is probably the first time since the early maybe mid 90s where you've seen the Detroit Lions this prominent in the game uh I want to say they're like the number four or fifth best overall team uh rankings wise in the game and there's probably some room that if the Lions really do well this year they update the the rankings week Leon players that they could improve upon that number four or five ranking overall all right and then last of the five headlines now Detroit Li's biggest takeaways from training camp practice on last Friday Sports uh sporting news story by Mike morat so he goes ahead and talks about some of the things that I think we're all aware of uh the kicking debate I guess with Jake Bates what's going on there yes he struggled are the lines going to look to replace him or at least add competition trying to find a little bit more I guess consistency out of the kicking position that's one of the big notes there that Mike writes on and I would say this we all get it Bates the first week of training camp was was pretty dang good when h Michael bansley got hurt not a lot of people were you know shaking their heads or feeling Doom or Gloom in regards to the kicking game but in regards to last week we I think just about everybody rolled on it whether it's uh you know National Media or you know YouTube content or whatever have you that Jake Bates did have some real real struggles last week some of the shines starting to come off him yes he's still got that Howitzer for a leg perhaps the biggest in all the NFL but he's only hitting at released last week he's only hitting about 60% of his field goals and yes some of those are from Deep range some of them were just 40 plus yard field goals so where' the Lions go with this I think that's going to be one of the biggest questions uh in training camp other than guys just fighting to make certain roster spots or to make the depth chart all right now with the five headlines out of the way let's go ahead and get over into NFC news and notes all right NFC North news in notes let's go ahead and get into it uh Chicago Bears training camp report ongoing Old Line health issues create questions about Caleb Williams preseason time and this is from the Chicago Tribune so if they're out there watching him on a daily basis and saying the offensive line is not doing well I'm gonna say this that if I'm the Chicago Bears you know front office and coaching Department I probably do have some real worries about putting Caleb Williams out there in the pre season game if he's going to get hurt if he's going to get lit up I probably want it to be in a regular season game not in a preseason game the other side of that me as a coach I do want him out there for selfish reasons I want to get him every opportunity to develop grow improve and start learning the nuances in the offense plus the NFL level what they're ultimately going to do I think they're in a tough spot sort of like the Rams who the Rams apparently man they've got injuries all over that offensive line and now some in the secondary you you feel bad for any team going through it this year or this time of the year I should say uh but the Chicago Bears even though they R fo they are hitting some injury walls much like the LA Rams all right uh Minnesota Vikings cancel Monday night's practice will refund fans so they were gonna have basically like a a team event uh you know tonight where hey fans could come on in watch the practice watch the scrimmage you know uh Vikings versus Vikings everything but due to some weather issues they're canceling it uh they are going to issue a full refund and those fans who were due to come couldn't come to the next one when it is rescheduled although the tough part about this time of year there's really no time to reschedule it so how they're going to pull that off wait and see all right Green Bay Packers Family Night review Jordan love highlights recap and this is from USA Today so we've all been debating is Jordan love the guy that uh we saw the last eight games of uh last season's regular season and playoffs or is he the guy that we saw the first half of the season that's the big debate what we can say is in the uh family night he was pretty dang good now that's against his own defense he knows them probably pretty well he should have a real high level of comfortability with that so we're going to have to wait and see in the regular season how he fares my guess is he's going to be pretty decent is he gonna be you know is he G to be the number one quarterback in the NFC that we'll have to wait and see all right with all that out of the way let's go ahead and get over to the main topic of the day all right so today we're talking about lions 53 and this is my unofficial uh 53 man roster so you guys are going to have thoughts and takes on it by all means throw them over and if you like it great if not that's okay too uh but let's go ahead and get over to it and I'll bring it up uh let's see get over to it and you know just we're going to go through this one thing at a time and uh see what you guys have to say not a real surprise here when it comes to the quarterbacks I've got Goff at one hey h and hooker two subfield if they keep them number three uh Brian Branch I did move to safety by the way and you know that's not a big shock number uh right now but I do have him as the number one overall so they know keep that in mind I think he's number one safety now the big battle I think for everybody is the number two spot that's where I'm going to say this my thoughts are my thoughts my thoughts alone I went ahead and moved uh iffy to the number two safety spot also means that hey you got some flexibility now where I think the lions are going to run on a lot of different packages three safety formations I think that is going to be the case uh running back room you know probably not a big big surprise here I went with Gibbs one Montgomery two and from there that's where it gets interesting I've got actually um U Jefferson as number three and then baky is number four and that's it I went with those four Craig Reynolds unfortunately I like the guy I just think you know you're seeing Jefferson do excuse me a a very good camp so I think that's where they're ultimately going to go this year with it now from there I want to tight end and not a big shock here hey who the top guys are so no spoiler alerts there but I do think that you're going to have battles throughout training camp with this uh thing to see who makes it tight ends though uh you know here here's what I went leaport Brock wght okay everybody gets that Parker Hess that's where I went with the number three spot is there a possibility they keep a fourth one absolutely if they do I'd like to see James Mitchell make it but I think uh Shane zilda just because his involvement in the passing game and what he's done in the past that's where I think they ultimately would go with it although man Mitchell Mitchell and zilar are just right there back and back with each other um CIF Raymond that's I have as wide receiver number three on the depth chart uh along with Amar St Brown Jameson Williams number one and two I know shocks there from there Donovan peop Jones was my number four and then green is who I had as the number five although drwan Smith uh Darius Fountain are making battles as we all know in Camp I think this one's going to go down to the wire I think probably different than every other bandle on the team this is the one where you got the biggest area area to see guys move across the board who could be number four who could be out the door and that's where I think it's it's just there's until we see it in preseason games I just don't think from what little video I've seen or reports we've gotten out of training camp I'm just not seeing anybody really pull away as far as number four five and six and then you know to have six you got to keep six I think there is some possibility Lions when keep five wide receivers uh offensive lineman I'm not really going to go through just because I think that one's got so much room of uh for different debates and stuff and to be fair I'd be speculating on some of them just because until you see them in games it's really hard to say the starting five I think we all get the starting five offensive Lins those guys are safe after that I I think you're probably looking at scores Dale is your number six um Manu is going to be number seven they're not going to put him unless they're goingon to put him on IR they're not going to put him on the practice squad he'll be gone uh mahogany he'll be there when healthy uh Yodi will be up there after that I mean I guess it's a wait and see now I want to go back real quick to the quarterback position it's from all reports and that's all I can say is from reports subfield has been uh the better backup quarterback but of course he's a veteran he's been through this all he knows what's going on what's Happening Etc I just think hen and hooker's got more upside and there's always I shouldn't say always but we typically overreact to any reports of a rookie struggling and to me henden hooker I've said it before on the show he's going to struggle or has been struggling because this is all new to him he hasn't played in basically two years so this is going to be an opportunity for him to kind of write the ship I am anticipating when we make it to the regular season uh hden hooker is your backup quarterback and it's no disrespect to Nate subfield I think from everything you're getting from different people um he's having a heck of a training camp but that being said I just think henen hooker has so much more upside but been wrong before all right let's move on to the defensive line a lot of this comes down to how you you're going to label guys so if I don't have this 100% right forgive me but let's start with the interior let's go with that DJ reader hey no no surprise here he's probably your your interior lineman uh number one uh from there Ali mcneel after that that's where I think everybody starts you know wondering what's going to happen I do have Levi onque and bradick Martin as your primary backups so there's four right there as the defensive ends and this is probably the area with the biggest question marks on it because who you g to quantify as an end Who you gonna quantify as an outside linebacker Aiden Hutchinson he's safe I'm gonna help you out there spoiler alert he's not going anywhere from there in training camp I'm going to say this I'm going to go with Makai Wingull as you know by the end of training camp I think think this kid's got a chance to be the defensive end opposite now that's with you listing Marcus Davenport James Houston as linebackers not uh not defensive ends if you're gonna list them as ends I'm probably putting both of them over McKai Wingo but with that also being said right now we're going to the Assumption those two are linebackers so uh Hutch Wingo from there I think he got Joshua Pascal on that list he's not having a great Camp from all reports really needs to pick it up probably to to save his heiny a little bit here um Kaminsky is out we all get that and he's going to be out for a while after that I guess it comes down to who you're gonna list as what and that's kind of the problem with doing the 53 man roster I will say this this is gonna be the most talented team no surprises there that we've ever seen uh but I think you've got a lot of guys that are being flexed around from one spot to the next and that's why I think the defensive and the linebackers just blind blend together so much um and that's going to be one of the problems with uh procrastinating who's going to be on the 53 or not Kendall vildor uh not that he's a defensive end but just so you guys know I have him not making the team so that's I like the guy I get he's forever Gonna Be Remembered in Lions lore for having the the wouldbe interception bounce off his face mask and go into uh into um 49ers guy hands uh uh Brandon uh UK but hey it is what it is I at the end of the day though even though he played great last year when you know he had his opportunities against 49ers he was not unfortunately as good as he could have been and I don't have him making Detroit Lions so all right uh not gonna go through everybody at length otherwise they'll make this a two-hour episode but uh linebackers that's another good spot where I think you're gonna have a lot of stuff so like we already said Davenport Houston they're going to make it as linebackers in my opinion then that's where the conversation really begins because really one if not both these guys should be defensive ends so here's my question then if those two are going to be listed as linebackers as they currently are on the N excuse me in the Detroit Lions official uh roster rankings or whatever on the website that that's where I would ask you guys this who makes it on the linebacking court Jack Campbell I think he's safe uh Alex anselone safe Derek barn safe Rodrigo safe so if you're going to carry all them and now add those two that's a lot of linebackers now again some of these guys are going to play end but I also think it's a tell what the lions are projecting to do with a lot of these guys we've been talking about it all week long that some of the defensive tackles in my opinion are going to play end this year like I think there's going to be a lot of opportunities for Levi onque broadrick Martin you know whoever to play the end opposite Hutchinson because they're more or less going to use a 34 technique it it's going to be a hybrid scheme version like they used to do uh in the Saints but that's where I think they're ultimately going with things that's why I think you see so many guys now listed as linebackers because that's they're going to be the rule Jake Bates me not Jake Bates uh but Betts um I do think he's gonna make the roster also and is he gonna be listed as and or linebacker I'm guessing linebacker because you heard Camp Bill last week talk about him playing the Sam spot so that's where you know forgive me if it's not Crystal Clear who's going to be an end or linebacker but some of that is just because I think you know you're talking semantics uh as far as everything else I think we pretty much got it other than the kicker spot I do think it's going to be a deep dive they are going to look for probably somebody else especially if vit struggles again this week if he recovers and goes back to who he was the first week of this preseason that's where I think you're probably safe and then maybe you just play by a week by week basis the other part is you're GNA move on from Jake Bates you gotta have somebody else that you feel better about and who's that person GNA be man that's a question I can't answer all right uh let's go ahead and head over to the doke crew see what you guys have to say uh if I apologize if I missed anything some on the notes and everything I had when I went to it to pull it up at the start of the show uh I don't know they just didn't load so uh I I apologize from uh not having it all right out here in front but um yeah I don't think there's any big surprises here James Williams Amar St Brown your respective number one wide receiver number one and number two uh Taylor Decker Glascow rag now zetler pan Su hey there's your starting offensive line backing them up I've got Kobe scores Dale as your backup to Pan um a gosh I always murder this guy's name who signed him from uh the the Bills free agent Ike B bget he's goingon to be a backup at guard uh Michael NES he's gonna be the backup at Center uh Yodi he's gonna be also a backup guard and Skipper also a backup uh tackle uh Tom Kennedy I know some of you guys were asking I don't think he's going to make make the roster it's nothing against him I just I don't think he's going to be one of the top six guys on the team so just Food For Thoughts there trying to think if there's any other notes Here uh starting quarterbacks I know a lot of you guys have asked that so let's go there real quick I have Davis Robertson and Arnold as the starting quarterbacks I know before I'd kind of thought they were G to lean towards all towards three veterans starting and that would be with Emanuel Mosley starting but you know we haven't talked about it a last week but Arnold is quietly teron Arnold is quietly putting on a great camp for the Detroit Lions and talking this weekend to multiple different reporters about it you know whether they seen in Camp Etc they're all saying the same thing you're not talking about them because there's nothing to talk about really there's no bad thing to talk about now he's not making some of the interceptions that say Ray straw is but some of that as they also point out is hey uh R straw is playing mostly against the twos and threes so if subfield or henen hooker throws a pass behind somebody off Target R straw is all over it Arnold is mostly playing with the ones so when he's out there he's shutting guys down to the point where people aren't throwing the ball at him yes occasionally he gets you know burnt like all rookies do but yes uh I've had to change my mindset on who the starting Corners are going to be and that's what I have right now I've got uh Davis III Arnold and Robertson along with branch and like I said iy meanu that's why it's starting at the safeties Kirby Joseph you know there's an argument definitely to be made that he should be starting next to Brian branch and I do think a lot of different times all three guys are gonna be on the field at the same time it's just hey when I watch them play what I like to do if you're not going to have any single high safety which is really Kirby strength if you're really gonna go just you know nines across the board everybody Locked Up manto Man Press coverage every play then a in my opinion uh iffy is better at that than Kirby it's nothing against Kirby it's just not his strength where it is more of a strength of iy melano all right uh as far as special teams uh this couldna be another big one that I think a lot of people are going to ask about and that's a kick return uh I've got Clee Raymond on punts I'm that's who I'm going with as far as running excuse me uh the not what I was gonna say uh Jefferson probably for kickoff returns and you know that could obviously change we haven't seen how the Lions are Going to utilize the new kickoff rules just yet but that's where I'm going with things all right let's head on over to the Duke crew see what you guys have to say what are your thoughts on the 53 who do you think maybe should be kept that maybe I didn't mention or whatever it is uh let's go ahead on over to it but those are my thoughts so far I do think henen hooker is gonna ultimately be a backup quarterback unless he really just struggles throughout the preseason to me everything will be decided with him how he does from week one to week two if he struggles in week two and doesn't make noticeable improvements that's where you probably open up the doors for some things all right let's head on over jdc good morning all good morning to you too moonscar good morning de the do crew exclamation point won't be here long today flying to Chicago got uh my it's all it's a locked North division champs shirt on go lion hat hey all the above go celebrate and do whatever you're GNA do in Chicago and represent Detroit and the Lions Frank the Tank good morning dke crew gold Lions good morning to you too and just for you my friend hey let's throw you a little just to get that show going all right uh Detroit D greeting salutations to everyone back at UD hopefully you're having a great day Clark good morning wild and crazies just a few more days until we go watch our team play yeah it it'll be just a couple more days here Thursdays here you get to watch the Lions and the Giants we're going to have reports throughout the week of how they're practicing or scrimmaging together and then yes you go ahead and get to the big game the the first preseason game let's be honest I I think this is the most watched going to be the most watched preseason in Detroit Lions history you're going to have people just glued to those TV screens maybe not for all four quarters but I think there's a lot of people with builtup uh desire to watch the team it's been months since you've seen them play San Francisco and now you got an opportunity to watch some of the younger guys that we've all been speculating how good or bad they're going to be so yeah it's going to be watched in my opinion see Jess good morning y'all hey uh does anyone else think it's time we look for another kicker uh question mark feeling like Bates might not be the guy I think it a lot of it comes down to how he does this week I mean don't you think his first week very good last week not so good so if he recovers this week and you know let's just say he makes 60 or excuse me 70 80 or 90% of his kicks that's probably going to help alleviate some of the concerns but to go from 90% the week before 95 whatever it was down to like 60% last week that raised a I think a lot of worries so hopefully he takes a deep breath has a Kumbaya moment and then gets gets himself right all right see I'm Matthew greetings and salutations good morning everyone Super Dome Super Bowl and good morning to you too and just for you let's do a little Sheila woo for you uh just gotta find it on the screen man that's a the more keys I add here the harder it is to always find something on demand still cracks me up though all right uh moving back to the comments all right Stephanie good morning boys qu exclamation point non lines related question anyone watch that 100 meter dash at the Olympics yesterday question mark uh that was crazy how close of an ending it was yeah it's it's not my forte it's not something I can comment on a lot I was just surprised I was happy the US uh a uh runner won it but if you look at that snapshot replay to me somebody would have to explain it but it looks like somebody else's foot crosses the line first I don't know how that all works I mean unfortunately track and field hasn't something I covered a ton as over my years or decades as a reporter so uh somebody else will have to explain that to me Mo good morning do crew I'm out of my depth this am but I see Super Bowl and good morning to you too hopefully you'll find your depth see Darcy greetings and salutations there are a lot of good banel going on for depth chart spots on the team some player uh good players are going to develop due to this yeah the the say we always say it seems like on the show you know you take two people you get them to battle you know hey somebody's going to turn into dust somebody else is going to turn into Diamond you know iron sharpens iron whatever you're gonna say this is going to benefit our team a ton I believe because you I think you get past the first 20 30 guys those guys are pretty much set in stone they're going to make the team they probably have a realistic idea where they're at on the depth chart but then if you go beyond that that's where you get the you know 20 or 30 guys battling to make the roster to make hey am I going to be number one on the chart number two three four Etc I mean let's real quick go back to my depth chart and just for the sake of discussion I've got Marcus Davenport is one of the you know I switched on my depth chart from defensive end from linebacker to just Edge he's probably starting that that that's my guess as an edge rusher in some capacity Al Le McNeil DJ reader everybody gets it if they're healthy they're out on the field but going back to Davenport let just say Levi onri is is just balling out these next three weeks could he supplant Davenport I think there's an opportunity for it obviously I am 100% biased I think James Houston is The Real McCoy uh and put him out there but I will also say this the more I've watched this training camp and i' say they're not really looking for that opposite edge of Hutson being a true pass rusher uh that's why I started removing James Houston from being an opportunity to start over there because that's not really what the team's looking for I think he's more than likely going to be the backup to Aiden Hutchinson somebody who's just in there to get to the quarterback and Hutch does more than that I'm not trying to begate anything he does but in that scenario that's where I think you know James Houston is probably gonna succeed is if hutchon comes out and let's just say they keep him on the field only 30 excuse me 70% of the plays that's where I think Houston comes in and those 30% you know he's just playing to his strengths get quarterback not as concerned about the run so we'll wait and see how that all shakes out all right Amy good morning Dan the D crew exclamation point I hope everyone had a great weekend yes that final 53 man roster will be amazing such wonderful Talent Super Bowl and super doome here we come and I agree and uh by the way if I missed anything with a 53 man roster don't be afraid to throw in the comment section let me know uh you know again my notes and everything kind of crashed right when we're were going live so I had to kind of do as much as I could for memory try to remember what I had pushed everywhere couple things I got to pop back up but not as organized as I would like and I apologize for that see Brent good morning Dan the DU crew I'm wondering if Fountain can keep up this level of play and be our number wide receiver number five or six question mark so far he's been balling yes he has and this is from a guy that you know throughout his time in the NFL hasn't really put up big numbers by any stretch of the imagination hasn't been exemplary uh but you know everybody comes at a different growth opportunity everybody develops differently maybe this is just the right system for him maybe it's just the right time of day I don't know but you are SP spot on Brent he's been playing and playing pretty well he's got a real opportunity to make this team now it's just he's gota probably finalize making it in the next couple weeks because as we all know we're I think it's 22 days away from the cuts from 90 down to 53 you know he's got an opportunity earn that spot see miles bar good morning all hey moonar have a good trip nice closing Choice yes sir way to represent moonar Rams are uh yeah stacking injuries pukaa now injured we better uh we better still be ready yes we better be ready hey their offensive line there some of their secondary and who knows what's going on with puka I get they were saying it was something to do with his knee but they were also in any of the reports that came out yesterday about it they were nondescript what was going on so hey wait and see he's they've got a month basically until we play a lot of guys can get healthy in a hurry in that time see France good evening all who's going to win the battle for the 53 that's what we're here to talk about today let me know your thoughts see Detroit D Thursdays we got football Lions versus giants can't wait man and uh I think just about everybody out there is chomping at the bit to watch that game I know I'm probably gonna watch the first half I doubt if I'll watch the second half but I'm probably planning on watching the full first half big Eddie can't wait for it 100% Eddie again good morning I'll back at you see mcar quandre digs is now a Titan you know I did see that yesterday he had like five million for the upcoming season and hey give the Titans some credit they have quietly and kind of sneedly started to develop a very good secondary uh so where it's all going to go who knows uh but I think this they're they're making some Investments more than I would have anticipated this year maybe they feel they're closer to winning than I thought they were but uh yeah I guess I you know just because I don't cover them on a regular basis I thought they were probably a little bit more rebuild mode but you look at some of their FR agent signings they're kind of pointing that maybe they're not thinking that see miles Stephanie wner saw it blew me away 100% yeah I mean it is a photo finish of that that race 100 meter and man if you want to make an argument to me that somebody else W it versus somebody else I I I don't see where you could disagree with it but again I don't know all the rules about what quantifies who won and who didn't somebody else would have to Scooby do that and deep dive that see France uh he's the past Moon hasn't been here in a while in years in years now uh quandre Diggs gotcha yeah he's been gone for a while him slaying everything imagine if we would have kept all them of course we might not be exactly where we are now so there's that side of it too Trey uh what's good all question mark I feel like we now have at least one high-end defensive player at each level in the defense Am I Wrong well let's let's start up front the defensive line you know I don't know if we have a true Elite player but Aiden Hutchinson I've compared him to Bruce Smith from from the day we drafted him he reminds me eerily of him you could probably throw some of the out there if you want to go old school lions like a Robert Porsche or an Al Baker uh he's that kind of talent in my opinion I mean he's again I won't call him Elite but I mean if he's not Elite if he he's not then he's just a notch below that DJ reader I don't think he's quite Aiden's level but he's like just a notch below him so two real good guys how about that on line and then a Lee mcneel he might just break out and become their level as well this year so if you're if we go with that then you've probably got three guys on the defensive line who are are arguably Elite linebackers we're gonna have to wait and see right now I would say there's nobody who's Elite there's some good good players there maybe Jack Campbell maybe Derek Barnes have or anone have a breakout year this year if they do maybe they get into the kind of that conversation they're not Elite they're just h a notch below uh in regards to the secondary just the corners and again this year I think corner is something we're going to use use uh Loosely with this team because the difference between a safety and a corner for the most part with this team is going to be I mean you're you're splitting hairs with it but Brian Branch I think he's not Elite he's just Notch below that so he's a very very good player from there like I said I had to change my 53 man roster with the quarterbacks because Arnold has been playing so well in Camp it's not games yet so got to take it with a grain of salt but he's been playing incredibly well from all reports um Carlton Davis I like I love the guy I thought it was a great addition I don't think I'd call him Elite by any stretch uh but he's I'd say maybe a notch or two below Elite uh but a very good player so how about this there's there very good players at every level of the defense now which we couldn't always say that in the past few years Robert good morning D crew and Dano exclamation point lots of rain in Florida today good thing I live on a hill good thing man yeah don't let that water uh you know take you out to sea see Lions fan number one gree salutations all who's got a better team than us question mark and I think that's a good question if you look at the NFL I know we talked about the Madden stuff and you know I I won't dive into Madden because what reality is and what's in the video games it's all subjective you're look you're asking somebody for their opinion on a player and whether or not that's an accurate opinion that's different but to your point it'd be hard to name a team or two in the NFL that are clearly clearly better than the Detroit Lions uh so I'd say you can make an argument we are the best team in the NFL see Bo do we have any photo finish on the roster do we have a photo finish on the roster man it comes down to who's doing the photography and if you think it's uh what I'm listing is AOK okay we'll go with that see Robert it's a good it's good to practice against the Giants new people to hit I agree with that you get tired of hitting yourself your friends and everything hey go out there and unleash the fury on somebody else see moonar trade tipson feels that way now we just need to see it on the field agreed with that 100% maybe we do have some elite players you're gonna have to see the product on the field before we can probably a honestly answer that uh let's see uh Robert if I can get this thing to pop up here there we go Robert I hope our kicker situation gets resolved yeah it's going to be a big week or two for for that department I think we're all okay with the punter Jack Fox he's not going anywhere everybody's a okay with him to me the question does become Jake Bates you've heard me say it before he's incredibly rare that leg is like nothing else on planet Earth so if they don't bring in another kicker to me that's a telling sign because they say the only thing wrong with him is just mechanical stuff that we can teach because you cannot teach his leg um so it's it's going to be something for us to pay attention to because even though we get mcdc likes to roll the dice go for it on fourth down it is becoming more the way of things in the NFL you also need to have uh full a reliability that when you send a kicker out there that it's not a coin flip that they're going to make it you need to believe that they a 95% of the time they're going to make this kick so and right now that's that's probably a legitimate question mark with Jake Bates see Robert what is going on with mahogany he's got an undisclosed nonf football related injury so we're gonna have to wait and see what writes itself out my guess is and it's just a guess I do not have Insider information he's probably back this week or next see Robert is our old line depth enough Dan in my opinion yes I think it's deeper now than it has been the last few years um let me you and again I apologize guys my notes crashed or whatever probably should have saved them but hey hindsight's 2020 right um I'll put this way Skipper would I love him as a starting offensive tackle not without help uh Colby I think he has probably grown enough to where if you put him out there you're probably at least adequate there uh belet hey he he's started in this league he started a ton for other teams I'm sound with him and uh Yodi as our backup guards I think you're very good there uh mahogany if if he does the you know get healthy get back out there it'll be easier to uh understand where he's at with things but right now just because he hasn't been around really all a training camp it's hard to grade him so uh if he's works out and he's healthy then I think we're really good on the offensive line depth but right now you're gonna you're gonna play the same guessing game as the coaching staff see uh Steve good morning coach Dan of the D crew back at you Steve how you doing see Brent can't wait to see the secondary snagging some interceptions we've got a lot of ball Hawks on the back and now Lombardi or bust exclamation point oh yeah and good morning to you too Brent I think you're right I think everybody's going to want to love to watch that secondary develop see Steve looking forward to the first preseason game I think you have to right Rocky good morning all and that was a great race Stephanie shows you what a better lean will do for you uh if he can catch a football man and I get every time there's some track star that does you know put up numbers or times like that everybody want wants to know can they play football and I have no idea if the guy can or can't but yeah again I don't know uh how you rate who won there but they good good job that somebody was able to do it because it's beyond my scope see Quinton greetings salutations y'all what's good with this team is we have speed and depth at everything uh no spots where uh where we just uh don't got it you're right we have athletes and that's why we've talked about playing so many games in domes on you know one form or another of astro turf I think you're right it our speed our strengths are going to really stand out this year see B falling forward to the season 100% keep going forward fall forward not backwards Voltron good morning Duke crew exclamation point three more days to go 100% Thursday will be here quick Robert great uh great race for sure ly was ha a happy dude man you have to be because I I think when you first watched it we just happened to be watching it yesterday when it happened I think everybody assumed I think it was the Jamaican athlete that uh that won it like the way he came out he thought he did clearly but I could also see the argument for like two or three or four guys could have won it but hey that was just a phenomenal literally a photo finish H good morning coach Dan and the D crew one Pride 100% hooks hopefully you're having a great one see Bo America I told you lions are coming 100% we're coming and we're going for the Super Bowl the bean good morning coach and D crew great day to be a lions fan arguably the best 53 man roster in the NFL regardless of who we end up keeping baby 100% argument could be made we are the best team Captain America good morning all I'm ready to watch this team go I want to see uh what hooker has I think he's gonna be one of the most watched Lions this preseason see Brent lions are the new America's team cowg girls are hasbin there's probably a lot of Truth there Robert a talented hooker is a good for sure hey it's worth the investment right and's see so just watchs uh to say just wanted to say thank you coach putting on a show every day hey don't worries man I love being here every morning I think most of us do too so hopefully everybody does see Steve I'm going to jump on that thank you to the coach let's not forget to give those thumbs up yeah we got a little over almost 600 people watching through all the different platforms so if you guys could all just you know hit the thumbs up and the Subscribe button I'd be thankful see Doug does everyone think we don't have enough depth at any position I wish I could listen to MC DC's head for just a moment before Thursday's game what's his biggest uh decisions are I think our depth is is good everywhere I get the some people have questioned the wide receiver room I think it's better than most of us are anticipating Robert uh Dan is a keeper for sure thanks for that Robert you're a keeper too the bean I have been there in in New Orleans is very nice in February Lions will find it to be a perfect setting for our victory in the big dance I'll go with that and yes hey let's make sure we get there this year jdc Brent dit cow Cowboys are now South America's team Lions are Going to Be North Americas hey that could be a level of Truth buddy what up du crew what up to you buddy hopefully a great day see Robert we will beat Dallas this year I think so I think hey maybe the NFL did us a solid by saying you get the week off before the Dallas game maybe they understand that maybe uh there should have been something different last year see uh Brent jdc laughing out loud La uh jdc Motor City do crew 100% Phil GRE salutations back at you Philly uh let's see hooko the Cowboys have have a sign up going out for bus going out of business one Pride Detroit let's put them out of business then see Courtney when is Marty GR in 2025 M make it to a month-long party uh that I don't know when Marty gr is off top of my head somebody else would have to answer that one Court uh Phil uh when will reader be ready that's the big question I'm thinking week one we'll have to wait and see John good morning all hope everyone's doing good same to you John hopefully it's a great day for you Rocky uh hopefully Bates will be just fine one minute everyone wants him and uh and gets a little negative press and already ready to run him out of town he will be fine just go on Fourth we're used to it yeah could just go for it on fourth down all the time maybe he's out there just for kickoffs and stuff I think give him more time to grow and develop he's only been kicking for about a year year and a half yeah he he's going to be fine I see KNE caps biting with Motor City Lions greeting salutations coach and do crew same to you my friend hopefully you're having a great one see buddy what you got oh yeah we'll go with that buddy and thank you for that trumps uh uh yes we'll go with that let's see uh let's see jik K LOVE the show but hate the woo you know there are some that do hate it 100% so sorry about that man uh do the best we can jading seat puff puff wo coffee and lion talk live I'll go with that 100% and good morning jdc Brent Make Way NFL The Unfinished Business season is almost Upon Us Go Lions it is man we are days away from our first kickoff of the season for the Lions at least mtown greetings salutations Duke crew Lions rule Bears drool I'll go with that kneecaps all right Yad y good morning coach good morning to you too hopefully having a great one Joseph good good morning coach Dan and the D crew exclamation points I love this show it's the absolute best watch it more than anything in my life well thanks for that man thank you and you know what we love having you here too uh say no to Communism all right fair enough Trump so hopefully you and Captain America can handle that see Derek good morning coach and crew I think we are still on big name player we are still a bigname player at wide receiver or defense line from the Super Bowl do you think we could add more oh absolutely if I think if the if the front office Brad homes wants to add somebody else or the right person gets cut we want to try to pick them up could we make a move absolutely absolutely we've got the we've got the cap space for it jdc I agree with trumps okay uh see Ken GRE salutations coach and do crew love watching every day well watch uh watch two days a week listen while driving five days a week okay that that works out well uh trying not to float away here in Florida yeah I heard you guys getting a lot of rain let's go lions and good morning stay away from all the floating away rains that may take you I don't know somewhere I was trying to rhyme something there but didn't do so well all right Joseph C I started doing uh this last season which is go back and watch a lot of the Highlight games more so probably because never really uh wanted or wanted to do so well since Barry Sanders days yeah Barry would put on him and that team would put on a lot of highlights but now you got opportunity with this team to do a whole lot of highlighting all right uh let's see uh Trump's with a tank full of gas and a wallet full of cash you are free with electric vehicles and digital currency you are controlled all right we'll go with that see uh is that still you trees all right we'll go with trees all right uh key yo coach Dan happy Monday thank you for that back at you exclamation Love Your intro and transitions mini cut flashes it reminds me of some nostalgic uh OG Nickelodeon font layouts from the 90s all right I'll go with that man that's the throwback with Nickelodeon I haven't watched that in a long time since my kid was I don't know two or three or something like that uh it's been a while since she's watched that so all right the bean preseason football is going to determine a lot of for this team these joint practices are a genius idea such a good work getting uh put in competition is awesome yeah and competition makes the team grow makes the player grow so I'm I'm with you there see jdc hail the colors blue and silver let them wave sing their song and cheer the grid iron Heroes Brave uh fighting for fame winning the game dashing to Victory as they go I'll go with that and thank you for that I probably need to add the L's theme song or fight song I should say to one of the popups in here just to play from time to time see Joseph C which I'm sure none of us cannot wait until we get back with San Francisco or Dallas this year Go Lions yeah those games will be circled on the calender for sure for a lot of lions fans see Brett I hope we smash the cowg Gros oh yeah yeah I'm guessing the Lions will have a little extra energy that game see uh key uh Lions versus Giants this Thursday 7 PM in the first pre season game check your local listings for details or just check out stream East yes stream East is a uh something I have uh used for a while and enjoy it see uh Michael good morning Dan good morning to you too hopefully you're having a great one see buddy what up though smoking JB there we go smoking JB is probably smoking and waking up see key yo I heard the lions were ranked in 83 in Madden that's mad disrespectful if that's true I think it is true don't hold me to that but that sounds about right the only the other thing is that they were one of the better teams overall in Madden I want I want to say they're number four or five so uh again don't hold me to that but that sounds right the bean one of the biggest things is to remain healthy throughout camp we are very deep almost every but can uh but we have to stay healthy coming out of Camp yeah that' be a big Advantage for us going to week one if we can pull that off see Chuck Cheese greetings salutations good morning everyone I think Bates needs a little rest that's a yeah could be just that maybe needed a day off just to kind of cool the Jets find find himself C steel what up though D crew what up to you too man of steel see jdc for Grins and Giggles sakes I watched old Lions versus human videos from the Coliseum in Rome man I didn't uh those that is old school yeah and not a game I would want to take part in no offense uh just because hey I don't think I'd do well against the Lions uh see Joseph see man we've been getting better every year over the last four years uh and there is only one way to get better this year well uh two ways one is to make it to the Super Bowl the other is to win the Super Bowl I'm go with the latter one let's go get there and win it see Joseph which I think we're going to win it this year I think there's a lot of people thinking we're in it to win it this year see Carrie I said that on Thursday about the kicker I went to their practice Thursday and said this guy is not very good games will come down uh to field goals and that's going to be our downfall yeah it's probably something I gota imagine the lions are monitoring and you know making some choices with we'll go that way one Punky feel bad for the Bears players sure but never the fans there there you go 100% I I like what you did there one funky Don just popping in to make sure brosi isn't here dropping BS uh I have not seen him this morning but uh we'll wait and see see one funky Don what's good my guy Brent looking like another year with no reliable kicker mcdc will just keep going for it on fourth down if you if you don't believe the kicker can do it then yeah you're probably going for it Kim uh Bates need some time to acclimate to the NFL does not have the experience that many kickers have this is true he's only been kicking field goals for about a year and a half needs some uh needs seasoning just can't do it at the cost of games needs more development I would agree with all that Kim 100% buddy bring the Bears and Packers on I'm tired of hearing how good they think they are we're going to get our opportunities against him brosi just call my name and I'll be there well hey welcome back my friend see Don one funky all is well it's about that time it is 100% uh brosy you you've been here well I am I am too I saw you Friday dropping nonsense I couldn't reply all right I'm glad you guys are here see jdc on paper the Lions offense looks so potent that a kicker wouldn't be needed it' probably be less impactful but you do need somebody to kick those extra points unless you're going to go for two all the time yada yada Bates will be fine he's just a rookie he's going H have some woes it's fine instead worrying about baits we need to need if Dan going to have the Lions ready to play in third quarter hell I'm worried about worrying about golf yeah overcome the the third quarter thing that we saw last year where they just kind of fell asleep I agree with that get you know take care of that brosi you and I must uh make a pack we must bring Salvation back where there is love I'll be there I'll be there I'll reach out my hand to you have faith in all that you do just call my name and I'll be there well that's very touching brosi very very touching heartfelt this morning see Yad y choking in the Super Bowl let's let's not choke in the Super Bowl let's win the Super Bowl choke the other team in the Super Bowl uh jdc brosy bear I'll call you little sunshine all right Carrie uh but there's a difference between putting six points as opposed to seven that loses games yeah let's go ahead and get the seven all the time unless we can get eight I'll take eight see uh See one funky people act like DC at a stud kicker it would change way he calls games I wi it uh he played for OT one time and the Lions never got the ball back he won't leave it up to a coin flip ever again yeah against Seattle where he played for the field goal where I still think he should have went for the win there or at least been a little bit more assertive with some of those uh last calls in the final whatever it was 30 seconds maybe maybe that sticks with him and resonates Stephen tripping over my feet and busted my front tooth in half sorry to hear that man I'm officially Looking ready for football season now hey I like like what you're doing there you're getting everybody ready you're you know you're smiling letting everybody know it's football time so hey way to take one for the team see Don F all the sing along crap it's Detroit versus everybody it always is my friend always is one funky sunfield was a stud last Camp it's no surprise that he's doing well again third string defense there could be a lot to that and some guys hey man I use I use this analogy all the time there was a guy I once went out and had a scout uh for one of the pro leagues overseas you'd watch him and you would think he was Michael Jordan as long as the game was not close if his team was getting blown out by 1520 points or if they were winning by 1520 points this dude was just off the charts good but that game got to within 10 or less yeah he couldn't bounce the ball off his leg out of bounds any faster if he tried subfield could be that guy see jdc defense wins the big one 100% brosi Don Burr not a fan of the Jackson Five all right that's a question uh yada y brosi uh stopped trolling the Lions we all know you got a crush on the Lions go worry about the the Bears we'll go with that 100% Derek we already know what we have in subfield do you think hooker gets the majority of snaps this preseason if it was me Derek yeah he'd be getting the entire first half each of the preseason games maybe an argument could be made for the first three quarters and let Nate subfield get I don't know half the third quarter and all the fourth quarter that's what I would do because I want to develop hooker as much as possible possible all right Gary good morning all grip for Life exclamation points uh all those that had doubts I knew our boy Houston would make it coach yes there's no way James Houston would not be on the lineup if I'm in charge and I do have him again just to reference it I do have him backing up Aiden Hutchinson not starting but that is because unlike last year and the year before the Lions clearly this preseason or I should say it appears to me this preseason they're trying to go more three down interior defensive lineman control that line of scrimmage and free up linebackers or ends to rush more now in that scenario could James Houston start yes and that's why you think you're seeing him Davenport uh bets all B basically be asked to be the Sam linebacker because they want them coming in that weak side that normally a defensive end would but uh we'll see what happens in the uh regular season or even the preseason see Don not a Jackson Five time uh turn in some DMX time to get gritty and rugged I'll go with that John I don't care who they throw in there we're still going to be good I agree with that we've got a lot of dep Dave does our defense still look gritty and strong versus The Run does our defense still look slow versus the pass no I think it looks fast all the way around strong gets the run but no will be improved against you know just any offense really out there uh of course you got to do that in the games that matter when people actually scheme for you see John thunder lightning I'll go that jdc grit rocks all right uh mtown will be going to Titans game this year be first time back to Detroit since the first playoff game well go enjoy it have a great time when the time arises brosi Don Barrett X gonna give it to you you go I do I do miss some DMX see Don just know that uh just know this whoever is cut look for the Bears to try and pick them up our crumbs exclamation points Bears fans say such uh such and such sucks for Detroit but if cut uh joined the Bears watch how they hype that player up I'll go with that 100% let's see Brent yep Don B buddy bring in Jason Hansen to help Bates maybe that's what they'll do or Eddie Murray John IA donur also all okay uh jdc Stormfront rolling in for NFL stadiums near you I'll watch for it one funky Don to be fair that happens with every sport for all fan bases my uh my ma hated chellos has a hwk but love to him in Detroit it's just the way it is yeah good good thought there with Chris cellio John can't wait to see brck Martin play yeah I think a lot of eyes are on him and Levi own zarque for sure see Don one funky true but the way Bears fans talk about the players it's a bunch of BS hey sometimes it happens man see bro e dber if the lions are cutting any oinment I might take you up on that yeah brosi I don't know if you saw but man your team is really struggling sort of like the Rams with injuries on the old line see John that's a fact they got uh more and more stuff on their team and we got ours we don't have none all right jdc laughing out loud Don B excuse me brosi Don B you mean when you troll Bears chance they come at you it happens man Don Burr skipping the bears jdc oh boy here we go yes indeed uh let's see Don yep let's go uh John I'm here yes you are see Joseph can't wait I agree jdc one do crew yell at three one two three I'll go with that jdc thanks for that David is J Mo okay getting off the jam yeah and that's one thing Rik draws jammed him up a few times reik man he is playing very well in Camp and I think we all get that he's gonna get burnt like Arnold or any corner and they're G to get bur burnt a little bit more because they are rookies but uh to your point uh R straw a couple times has gone at J Mo and knocked him down to the ground J Mo has come back consistently when that happens and roasted the guy so he's developing he's added some weight and strength especially in his in his core muscles and his lower legs see brosi Don Burr why are you crying about it tough guy W wah W Don Burr is crying because he trolls Bears Chads and they don't like it uh now uh how were you raised all right fair enough Don the body crossing the line is what matters coach okay thanks for that yeah I just I don't know all this stuff man uh I see feet crossed and I go I I would assume that means you win but obviously it doesn't buddy I'll go with that Pat hey coach uh just about a screenage time oh yeah and go with that and go go with that yes Don brosi f the Bears I like what I said whip all right uh jdc the feeling you get when you lean back away too far in the chair and you're sitting in and it goes backward pass the point in overturn well hopefully you don't fall down Kurt uh I'm here doing chores in the background yes you are so enjoy it and getting ready for your podcast I'm sure see brosi Kurt steel The Jackson 5 your thoughts Don bur isn't a fan it happens man not everybody likes everybody see Don don't burn your choice uh don't burn our choir boy Kurt there you go see Don I'm just here to keep the Detroit foot on bro's neck yes you you place it well uh Double Diamond what do you got happy Civic holiday August long weekend to all who celebrate All right yes uh go enjoy and celebrate say Double Diamond what do you got uh gold Lions a th% gold lions and good thank you for that see Kurt laughing out loud I'm back at 9 excuse me 8:00 a.m. today there you go get that show going fact it's about that time for me to get you guys over there sorry I didn't make it as far through the comments as possible let me get a few more in people that D maybe don't always get on let's see John uh huton is a sack Master 100% Azie good morning Duke crew watched the San Fran game last night and had to say that play with buildor there were calling pass interference the ref through the flag shake my head go Lions yeah there's that part too let's see David what's our weakest three spots of 53 I'll have to leave that for a debate for another time let's see nine drinks good morning D crew back at you key John please all right Azie also on the Tampa game Davis was the player that got blocked by Raymond and first and to get first in the zone go Lions all right uh let's see David uh bubble players play the most in preseason I would agree with that yeah get them out there Michael let's hope the Lions don't need 50-yard field goals to win games J Hansen tried that and it worked once in a while in the 90s yeah 90s man that was a thing though Jason H happy late morning du crw super nor more bus I'll go with that Brian good morning from leier Michigan Home of Jake Long played for Miami Dolphins yes he did a home of Max Crosby also I another person a lot of lions fans would like to get see Pat I missed the 53 man roster I have to go back and watch it oh yeah let me know your thoughts when you get a free moment let's see Jesus what he got no way if he starts with Kirby I thinking uh branch and Kirby start yeah an argument could definitely be made for both of them 100% man 100% James it is against NFL rules to uh pray for Lions victories I don't think it is hals Levi o loading a long time let's go I'll go with that let's see Bo happy trail see you all done dusted see you all tomorrow Keys y y why are you worried about Jared Goff let's hope nobody worries about him uh let's see Trump's bear no more bears no more Michael Jackson there you go all right Kurt steel Bo Booth later gator uh Kurt steel see you guys over in the show yeah get over to the show uh Dan lion Super Bowl or bust a th% with that and then hook AO see y'all tomorrow uh tomorrow do crew RIT all right guys 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