part of the joy at least for me was taking these songs that were standards and trying to find a way that it felt like they were uh specific to the characters that it was the only way that the characters could express themselves were through these particular songs sung in this way and that was part of what was um I think a interesting point for us because initially we started off with some references where you know I had Frank Sinatra um and Sammy Davis Jr and these um you know Legends and uh I think we started kind of trying to emulate that sound at least I did before we realized like wait a second this is not this is not who Arthur is might be who Joker wants to be you know I think the way that we approached music in this film was very special and extremely nuanced uh I I wouldn't necessarily say that this is actually a musical and a lot of ways it's uh very different the way that music is used is to really give the characters a way to express what they need to say because the scene and just the dialogue is not enough and uh we worked really hard also on the way that we sang and for me it was a lot about uh kind of unlearning technique and uh forgetting how to breathe and allowing uh the song to completely come out of the character and you know like Todd said you know he always felt like Arthur had music inside of him and I I think I just for me I really wanted to help execute Todd's vision for what this could be with music it feels right it feels correct to be back in Venice um it felt like The Logical launching off point for us for for this second film uh we have a very strong feeling towards Venice and and what happened last time not just obviously winning the festival but just the way the film was treated um but I will say on this one I'm a little more nervous and I think it's a lot easier to come in to something as the Insurgent as opposed to coming in as the incumbent and so there's a lot more expectations on a second film and so yeah there's a there's definitely a sense of more more nervousness than I had with the first one