[Music] you are listening to V truvian man with Jesse and [Music] Josh welcome back to the trivia man and as usual I'm joined by Manila Jos my Miller how you doing I'm doing okay how are you doing great uh we saw a show the other night and I normally I do quotes at the end of this episodes but I got a little quote to just in four seconds to talk about the show we saw the other night all right we saw schizophonics was amazing and then the headliner was called me first in the gim gims and they have the veneer of punk they have the shrink wrapping of punk but they are not Punk and and also I mean apparently they are they are all all in punk bands and again it's like a punk super group good musicians solid they had good production value they were [ __ ] tight as [ __ ] super tight but but to quote Anthony kius from Wet Hot Chili Peppers we could drive in limos and private jets all day long and we'd still be more punk rock than the bands that call themselves punk rock today now there are people who ended up hating red hot Chell peppers and I get it you know but that is a true that is definitely true especially when you got [ __ ] flee and uh God who's the guitarist oh uh fante is that his name yeah fante he's amazing yeah but anyway I mean Punk is not the tempo yeah and me first GES are tight musicians like we said but super [ __ ] tight Tempo does not make something Punk and and I think that they probably are punk in their other bands sure but that I'm not uh I'm not sold on but but schizophonics one of the very best live bands I've ever seen put it on and they're having such a good [ __ ] time up there so many [ __ ] pun punk rock bands they just look all mad and [ __ ] but they every one of them all three of them were having such a good [ __ ] time up there and that just translated so well that was awesome yeah I mean um to quote KLA Harris schizophonics thank you for bringing Joy back to punk rock yeah I I will see them anytime they come around yeah all right so today we wow what can I say man this is not a fun topic no no it is not we going to talk about project 2025 Josh who's started or who founded project 2025 well project 2025 was was well so project 2025 a mandate what is it um a mandate for leadership um this is the 10th mandate for leadership as far as I know first one was put out in 1980 uh for the Reagan Administration by the Heritage Foundation and the Heritage Foundation was founded in 1973 by Paul we Edwin fuler and Joseph Kors uh with Joseph Kors being the main funer um and taking uh a lot of the startup money from the Adolf KS Foundation which is already off to a bad start yeah how do you not change your name if your name is adol come on come on man yeah so um so much like much like Kellogg family right uh we've got um the roots of something like this starting with a right-wing billionaire yeah I mean I don't know I I wonder if they had billions at that time but certainly a lot essentially yeah they had a [ __ ] enough Kors the Kors family um and what they started out as is they wanted to be similar to the American Enterprise Institute which had started earlier um which was kind of influencing um influencing uh policy and things like that they're basically um the AEI um was basically a pro business anti-communist uh outfit and so poured a lot of money into into getting policy and initiatives going um but the Heritage Foundation wanted to be more than that they also wanted to be to to be influencing Christian cultural issues is so they wanted to influence American culture as well as be Pro business anti- commi right um so that's that's kind of how they started mission accomplished yeah I mean they really they really did and they they really hit their stride when they put out their first policy um initiative or or paper the Mandate for leadership 1980 and did Reagan adopt that dude he adopted I think it was 63% it was basically two-thirds of it he adopted basically everything super proud of that whole [ __ ] thing um they had he was super proud yeah I mean he was you saying you're super proud of Reagan Josh okay Jesse you just said it not me [ __ ] is that it did we just end the [ __ ] podcast that's it sorry my bad so they had 2,000 specific policy recommendations in that in that workup and he he had adopted 60% of them and they actually I think that they did more than that but 60% were implemented before the end of his first year in office so like he just [ __ ] blew it up um weirdly one of the propositions in there um that didn't get adopted was essentially the uh the ACA um the the Obamacare oh the Affordable Care Act Affordable Care Act act wait that was that was them wait you have to slow this down here exactly so he he they they put out a paper on that and uh Romney adopted it in 1989 for Massachusetts so I was reading that like the the ACA which infuriated so many right- Wingers was actually Bob Dole's plan so did Bob Dole adopt that from the this organization yes that was a Heritage Foundation uh policy suggestion so there was actually a Time in right-wing thing tanks where they believed in healthare being affordable well is you know I mean I because I don't think that I don't think it a very good deal I I think we got [ __ ] no single pair was the thing Obama Wanted single pair but this is all never fly and so but so he adopted basically the Heritage foundation's concept of health care for America which is still too [ __ ] liberal for these nut jobs out there today of course so anyway I just wanted to throw that out there because you know gota give credit so you're saying there's good things about2 they're okay dude the her foundation is just [ __ ] fine um and then initially you know moving along so they've put out basically a policy paper for every election so it's 10 of them 81 through 24 um initially uh they were against Trump um they changed Minds once he secured the nomination for the Republican party so they they went all in basically they go all in for whoever the conservative guy is because these these mandates for leadership are not specifically for the conservative people but functionally that's the only people that take it seriously well we we joke about some of these Christian voters being morons but let's be fair that some of them are bright um and there's plenty of Christians I think that really did sell their soul because they knew Trump could forward their agenda meaning necessarily like Trump no they don't give a [ __ ] about that or they saw him as a liar they saw him as the same way we did but they understood that it would further their agenda he was a tool right yeah in more ways than one yeah but um so um let's see uh so there was a minimum of 66 Heritage Foundation people that got hired into the Trump Administration after they decided to support him and 64% of their policies and proposals were put into action under his watch right so again another Reagan siiz chunk of [ __ ] got thrown at the wall and uh and stuck and don't forget I mean hasn't Trump disavowed any knowledge of project 2025 or or basically lied about his knowledge of it he he's completely Li about it yeah absolutely he's tried to distance himself from it because he knows that it's a losing proposition but he also knows that um I mean that's why he told the [ __ ] Christians look just vote this next time you won't have to vote again after that right I mean that's that's wise because all these policies get put into place you'll never get you'll never the popular vote will never win again right that's what it is because I mean if you look at it there's 500,000 people that are members of The Heritage Foundation which works out to about 0.15% of the population even if you know there's a hundred different [ __ ] groups that also sign on to project 2025 you're talking like the [ __ ] what is it the uh the family research Council I mean all those all the [ __ ] worst [ __ ] American Enterprise Institute all these people [ __ ] sign on to this [ __ ] it's like if you want to start an evil group in this country you got to attach the word family to it family or values right those are the things totally um but so even if you like uh you know throw you know two zeros on there um you're looking at like 15% of the population subscribes to these ideas the rest of the popul is adamantly against it they want control of their they want control of Reproductive Rights they want LGB all that they want those rights they want women's rights it's like all these things the majority the vast majority of the population is in support of those things of of leftish proposals not you know well certainly not extremists not extremist but but you know take care of your [ __ ] people man right and there everything about project 20 25 is is taking the power out of majority and putting it into the major minority's hands and and screwing the rest of them [ __ ] them especially if you have you know a non-Christian kind of idea about things well we were talking about this earlier and like had this had project 2025 further the Muslim agenda oh yeah there would be an allout riots in this country yeah everybody' [ __ ] [ __ ] freak out yeah um but the fact that it's Christian means it's great yeah and again I want to point this out Evangel when our country was founded were the most strident for the separation of church and state because those evangelicals had fled religious tyranny in other countries yeah so evangelicals went from the greatest supporters of the separation church and state to this [ __ ] to whatever the [ __ ] it is now yeah yeah and in October of 21 um the incoming president of the Heritage Foundation Kevin Roberts uh who was formerly of the Texas public policy Foundation which oh that's you know that's all bad again family Texas these words are not good if you threw values in there you'd have the the trifecta of death uh but he stated uh the role of the Heritage Foundation as institutionalizing trumpism like they went all [ __ ] in and that's that's October of 2021 so it was probably the loss in 2020 that really started driving him over there I think say so originally they supported Ukraine um that changed in May of 2022 which caused a lot of the old school Heritage Foundation people to leave like a lot of people was that a reaction to Trump sidling up to uh Russia's dictator or I think I do I cuz there was a time remember when everyone hated commies with with and the idea of right and that that you know Ukraine would have been something we would have absolutely funded 30 or 40 years ago [ __ ] the Republicans would have been all over that [ __ ] until the mid 2000s probably yeah but I I I mean I think with the recent Revelations about right-wing media being funded essentially by Putin and the Russian government I I don't see why that money didn't make its way into the Heritage Foundation sure I I like there's no I haven't seen any proof of that but when I I put those things together it's not a ridiculous yeah I really don't see it especially I mean with the tenant found the tenant media [ __ ] that just went down last week what was the tenant media [ __ ] okay say the tenant media was uh is a group that has people on there Loris Southern uh Dave Rubin Tim Po um and basically these were all kind of right-wing nut jobs uh out there um spewing basically Russian talking points anyway um and dividing America as much as best they could um it turns out that they were being funded by [ __ ] Russia like million they're getting $400,000 a month to put out podcasts paring Russian talking points coming against Ukraine talking about how basically the you know the blacks are coming from your job you know for your job they they like all of these talking points that Russia's been putting out they're trying to to destroy democracy and we can get into that in a little bit as to why that is but like that's that's what they're [ __ ] that's what doing in the Heritage Foundation I think is fully fully in on it I I I can't say for sure but I would bet that there is Russian money going into the Heritage Foundation now yeah it seems right especially since you they don't really you don't dis have to disclose where all the money comes from and they only have 500,000 members they're not getting I mean they have some big donors I'm sure um but I also think that they're they're on the they're on the [ __ ] take man is Elon Musk any way related to the Heritage Foundation or not at all not not overtly I wouldn't I can't tell you but I also do know that X um was funded uh his takeover of Twitter was funded by Russian oligarchs so and all of his [ __ ] talking points are straight out of the Kremlin too all right this is [ __ ] crazy so they're in bed whether or not it's official or not yeah right either either way they are paring those talking PLS across the board is it a kind of a bizarre world we live mean if you think of Ukraine you know during the Reagan Era and before Reagan Ukraine would have been just trumpeted to the heavens as this just you know Society trying to be free and we would have funded them and we I mean it's just so crazy and all the [ __ ] that they talk about the maidan revolution as being a [ __ ] NATO plot and that's why why Russia had to go in there and stop him and take [ __ ] Crea oh and it's there dude it's just it's insane it's I'm taking crazy pills I don't know what the [ __ ] going on I know what's happening right now it's Topsy Turvy so it's so it's so [ __ ] crazy and now listen to this this is this is a quote from the [ __ ] National Review which is not a Bastion of liberalism if you know what I'm saying Heritage Foundation by far the most quoted DC think tank in Russian media and and even worse certain arguments from Heritage Foundation research are becoming frequently coded on propaganda sites run by the Russian government and Putin's allies the [ __ ] National Review is saying this right I mean that's insane yeah I I I just I can't even [ __ ] believe I can't believe it no it's nuts um and I have a joke that's not going to work at all but I had to say it out loud um having done all this research I've watched a lot of um you know some interesting people talking about project 2025 I did some obviously some reading but I always always like to watch some video too consume both kind of things and more than once uh people called it a think tank um given the brain power involved here shouldn't it be called a think thimble or a think paper cup I don't know I just think tank seemed a bit impressive to me I don't how much thinking is going on here dumb dumb joke but I had to say yeah no I I I I was trying to come up with a think tank joke but just I'm just as you can tell they're all going to fail so should we get into the Weeds on Project 2025 like some of the the tenants of 2025 or are you still still I got I got more on these [ __ ] I got more on these [ __ ] bastards because like these these I I didn't think that I was going to come up with as much as I did um to to put into this podcast but I think that this is all pretty [ __ ] necessary yeah absolutely so I mean they um The Heritage Foundation has also started uh another Think Tank uh with uh their Pal's uh uh Victor orbon so Hungary in has started up their own Think Tank merging their [ __ ] with the Heritage Foundation which is another reason why I think they're on the take from Russia right like it just doesn't make any sense why they would do that I mean he's an autocrat he's I mean his whole dude so the other thing like earlier this year [ __ ] Victor Orban came to the United States did not meet with Biden met with Trump and went to the [ __ ] [ __ ] Heritage Foundation and had closed door meetings with them wow and I'm sure they came up with policy policy proposals they were talk I mean just all tell the listeners who Victor orbon is Victor orbon is the president of Hungary and he is he he's Putin's buddy he is currently facilitating uh peace talks between Russia and Ukraine which is [ __ ] that he's just [ __ ] buying time for Putin he's just a Lackey he's he's a Lackey and I mean he's running he's basically I mean you have all these right-wing people that talk about what a [ __ ] great president a great leader Victor Orban is but he is an autocrat I mean they [ __ ] stole that country [ __ ] blind it's led by oligarchs they it's not a [ __ ] democracy he in fact is proud to call it an illiberal democracy okay right I mean he is a bad [ __ ] man he is and I think before you move on you did touch on something kind of spectacular bizarre there because you said that Orban came to America and didn't even meet with Biden didn't meet with him D that if that's not unprecedented I'm not sure I mean the idea of a foreign leader coming to this country and not meeting with the president seems insane to me it's [ __ ] outrageous yeah it's it's it I mean even if it was an unintentional slight right but it wasn't it was it it was a huge breach of protocol yeah so like the this is this is a [ __ ] problem and I know that there's of course I can't think of the name of the statute that there is in place um for these kinds of things but meeting with a representative of another country as a you know passing yourself off as a representative of this country is illegal and Trump's done that on a numerous occasions right and the [ __ ] Heritage Foundation allowing him into their closed door [ __ ] meeting [ __ ] that these people are traitors they're they know better than that right they they gave a [ __ ] about democracy they would say have you met with Biden yet no they wouldn't even take a meeting they may like you you don't [ __ ] take a phone call right until after he the [ __ ] lead the propriety it's [ __ ] awful just it's absolutely [ __ ] insane oh man Josh's uh blood is all angri up today fcking get me all hot you did a lot of work on this I must say we are not getting paid I mean podcast should be free that's I believe that but then again you are not getting paid enough this cuz you spent a lot of hour tell me how how many hours do you think sure you spent on this today or you know getting ready for this research over the course of the week probably 10 or 12 hours sorry Sor man yeah it's that's rough um I mean I I feel like project 2025 is the Heritage foundation's plan to Institute an autocratic theocracy in America it really like it lays it out it's Christian nationalist white Christian nationalist rule over the country right [ __ ] everybody else and last week um we were discussing the nuances between let's say racists oarts and Nazis right we were talking about let's separate these two things one is just a a fascist oligarch the other ones a Nazi well sure absolutely a difference let's say let's say Trump gets elected hopefully that's not going to happen let's say project 2025 is completely entrenched in our government in the next 10 20 years aside from hurting up Jews and murdering them in Mass it is Nazi Geremy Sans the murder right right everything else is in place but I mean but you what you're you're seeing that across the world right now in general fascism is definitely f is coming fashion right now so I mean Ann Apple bomb's book autocracy Inc and I I know I've mentioned it on here before is it is an amazing book and it lays out the basis for what's happening kind of rough on how to make it stop but there's you know there's certain things we can do I know one way to make it stop make a America which used to be The Shining Beacon of democracy strong again yeah I mean to use [ __ ] Reagan's goddamn line shining beacon on the hill yeah not now man shining City on the hill shining turd on the hill the worst the worst part about this is that Kevin Roberts the president of the Heritage Foundation I mean explicitly said this I mean he said the second American Revolution is happening which will remain bloodless if the left allows it to be [ __ ] that piece of [ __ ] dude [ __ ] him in the ass I God damn it [ __ ] yeah like really I mean he said that like on [ __ ] screen yeah and although I mean the thing is of course it's outrageous and yet he's telling the truth everything he said is true right there I mean the Liberals are letting it happen yeah I mean I think I think that they find once this project 2025 finally got out there and people started looking at it yeah which took way too long this has been out for a couple years at this point they they should have should have been out there but they have actually I think started kind of moving on it and they're realizing just how bad it is and they've got armies of actual [ __ ] lawyers where well ACLU taken obviously the lead to they're going to be prosecuting a bunch of these things with or without Trump being elected so do I I mean I think that it's going to take more than just that yeah no absolutely it's G to take some big money too it's G to take some stuff does uh this you said that real quick project 2025 is like a 900 something page document 9 does that mean it's the assemblage of all these papers they've written over the years all these elections no no this is all brand new this is for this year this is this this is for 2025 right now Trump can try and distance himself all he [ __ ] wants from this right but on a 920 page document his name is in there 312 times okay 312 times anything about it 30% of the pages mention his name right I mean that's [ __ ] pretty damning yeah and I I mean that's something I don't think that is out there enough people are you implying that he's lying dude if his mouth is open he's [ __ ] lying how dare you sir just a sh [ __ ] um yeah I mean this this whole thing is about revenge and white nationalist Theocratic strongman rule this is this is putting putting um putting us in line with [ __ ] Hungary Iran Mod's Indie North Korea Venezuela and Russia yep I mean and then there's other countries too that are kind of heading in this direction and then the African nations which are just pillaged by just [ __ ] strong men it's pretty pretty awful yes and I you know I'm going to say this this is kind of an aside but people should be looking into Sudan and what's happening there right now it's a real [ __ ] it's a real [ __ ] tragedy it's probably one of the worst things that's happening in the world right now I mean we've got it bad but [ __ ] Sudan it's it's awful absolutely but with all this right I feel like you know they're learning right they this is this is in place now because I think the one that they put out for um 2016 was basically just focused on policy and so once Trump got in there they really didn't know what the [ __ ] they were doing they do now and they're putting in the bureaucratic structure to [ __ ] Implement all of these [ __ ] things and the real the real issue is the first 180 days like they have a plan for the 180 day Playbook right that's one of their four pillars there um you know four pillars of this project 2025 is the policy agenda um the Personnel database which is where they're putting a loyalist database together to replace all of the that's the people that are going to sign up to be uh replacement workers for the ones that they're going to fire from their jobs the 50,000 people that they plan on firing um and then the training effort which is part of that's what you were looking at some of those videos that you're were looking at I looked at a couple of them too I couldn't watch them dude they were so [ __ ] boring oh my God [ __ ] boring how could something simultaneously be boring and terrifying and evil yes I mean I guess that's it the finality of evil right exactly and then the fourth pillar is the The Playbook of action which is the first 180 days now the thing about that is that they haven't even released that yet the person that was in charge of writing that say said it's not ready yet which means that they're hiding it they're totally hiding it so we don't know exactly what they have planned for the first 180 days but they are going to move [ __ ] fast and hard to get this in and they've got the Supreme Court to [ __ ] back them up on it that's the other thing is they have the [ __ ] judicial right fast is the key because if they want this to all work they've got to do it before legal challenges are are APPA some of their efforts yeah yeah so U and they I mean they they understand just how [ __ ] unpopular this whole [ __ ] thing is they know that they are in the minority and they know that once this gets in shit's going to the streets and they're going to have to shut it down martial law I mean it's like these are the things that that's where it's all going to go [ __ ] hard yep but you know it's it's not an important election you know don't don't vote if you don't want to I mean it's no big deal I mean it's just our democracy and our freedom yeah you know stay home if you want yeah dude I oh and shall we uh just for fun repeat the Canard that both parties are the same shut up I mean really you know I swear to God the next time someone says that to me I I'm going to make them outline how they're the same you explain to me how that's I mean like you know really they're all the same can you explain to me how they're all the same or is that something you heard over and over again and keep saying it right I mean and I get like maybe 20 years ago saying that oh absolutely especially with we Clinton and the and the you know let's say middle of the road Democrats right there was very little difference May 30 or 40 years ago Clinton essentially was a [ __ ] Republican but he played saxophone sure that was that was the difference right and he wore [ __ ] wayf fars the Jazz man [ __ ] guy first black president God damn it um so that's my um my uh my intro my Heritage Foundation I will say that basically their agenda first um action later you know they don't come up with any there's no moral thing to it um they have an agenda that they want to Institute and they want to put it in and for some reason I wrote down I I was calling them the Armani Confederates because they're all so rich because they're rich and they're basically the Confederacy I mean they repes the south is rising again with these [ __ ] that that's what's happening the south is [ __ ] Rising again yeah I mean this is such a tangent but you know the first time I went to buy an interview suit do you ever go to The Men's Warehouse yeah yeah I love that place cuz that was the first like time I went to a real tayor and I really appreciate all the good customer service they have there they really know what the [ __ ] they're doing yeah they know how to sell a suit I swear to God this is somewhat related so he goes what are you looking for what kind of look I said well I do want interview suit and man I would love to look like Bobby Switz on uh on NYPD Blue and he goes oh that's a $2,000 armanii suit I don't know that you have the budget for them like no you're damn right I don't so thanks for noticing pal yeah exactly so um so anyway you were saying that uh there's very little moralism involved and that just it's just policy not it's it's they have an idea of what they want this country to be run like that they have an agenda that they want to put into place and they're going to figure out how to do it and damn everything that put gets in their way I just I I can't believe it I mean it's I mean it's the Heritage Foundation is [ __ ] like truly like an evil group right at least no I I'd say since its Inception because its Inception it was put in place to promote a white Christian National over government not promote it right make it the dominant force in this country which it is Institute it and and it's policies yeah and they have been doing this since then I mean I I was looking into see if how you know how close the Federalist Society was to them but they weren't found until 1981 I think sure so it was a bit later but I think that they I mean they were put into place to give a Le legal framework for this agenda as well so I I don't know I can't say for sure that they were founded U you know in cahoots but I I do see them aiming for the same thing which is how they got to Judiciary the you know the the Supreme Court [ __ ] stacked and a big chunk of like um Southern uh federal judges things like that they've all been taken from the federal Society so I mean it's they're this is two planks right here that are [ __ ] we I mean we got to [ __ ] change [ __ ] well it's funny because B Biden and some Democrats have talking about expanding the Supreme Court now I'm no legal scholar but can I just say my objection which is that expanding it doesn't remove the morons that break the law to circumvent so for example Obama should have appointed to Supreme Court Justices if I'm saying that right Mitch McConnell should be [ __ ] killed right so he's a straight up [ __ ] traitor expand the court for what so they can find other ways to cheat and get their own justices on there to stack it well I mean I think that the um the idea that he's also kicking around is um uh uh term term limits right which maybe with those two things expansion and term limits you might be able to make a difference on it but I don't see I don't see how any of that can happen unless the Democrats win a giant [ __ ] majority in everything like like that's that's it I otherwise I think the Supreme Court's done for like 40 years [Music] but to your point I mean like uh Mitch McConnell um the moment Barack Obama was elected traitor piece of [ __ ] Mitch McConnell essentially said not essentially he did say we will fight Barack Obama on every level on every policy from the moment he takes office we won't pass anything so that's an American yeah I mean that is a traitor right he's saying I don't believe in democracy I don't believe in you know that's the thing about a lot of you know Republicans were strong armed to vote for the Civil Rights Act in the' 60s yeah this there's this you know this was not the same in the 60s and the ' 50s no it was not doesn't mean racism didn't exist and racist uh cators didn't exist but this people really did work together yeah there wasn't this a you know not aest but uh acrimony between the parties like there is now yeah it was it was it was a lot different yes absolutely so there's some pretty scary things about 2025 you want to go through some of these bullets yeah I mean um I've got my my notes I know you've got your notes well I I thought thought this was interesting so increased funding for a wall on the US Mexican border is not really a big shock no that's pretty I would imagine what I thought was pretty shocking was that it would allow for fast-tracking applicants for migrants who pay a premium yeah of course people with money if you want to know the level of ways that they're going to [ __ ] you over 2025 even the rich immigrants have a shot because they're rich yeah so if you're rich you can pay a premium to get in otherwise get the [ __ ] out of here yeah so and and i' also I mean that that because they are essentially a party of idiots grifters and Russian assets right it's it's that they are they're going to take money to get you in here they're going to take money to get you out of trouble yeah I mean all this [ __ ] and I mean all the stuff in here about limiting women's rights and their choices their women aren't going to have to worry about it no of course not I mean much the much the way thaten that rich women will have always have access to abortion right it's right the rules don't apply to the rich yeah it's it's it yeah again but if you're not rich they will Target immigrant communities through Mass deportations raids ending Birthright citizenship separating families and dismantling our nation's Asylum system I've also heard that um they're talking about uh setting up holding I mean concent ation camps immigration camps of course on Military basis and using the military to go in um basically uh uh deputizing uh military uh National Guard anybody uh to round up illegal immigrants I mean to be Terror rates yeah I mean it's this bullets and there's several of them it's like if someone said write a horrible list of things we could do to Americans this would be it write a dystopian future for America right here I it's it's almost unbelievable how accurately this reflects the most oppressive horrible things that people want to do to this country yeah it it is everything this is a policy paper for all of those things yeah slashing Federal money for research and investment in renewable energy why would we want to do that well and also I mean not just not just that but they're also increasing funding for fracking yes uh Drilling in Alaska Drilling in the Arctic I mean they're going to double down on all the energy resources that we have right and make it more difficult to invest in Alternative Energy although they will qualify nuclear energy as alternative energy and I my apologies to all you people out there that think that [ __ ] nuclear is green but [ __ ] that like like it it doesn't put out [ __ ] carbon but it puts out a big chunk of [ __ ] that doesn't go away from every energy source has a cost yeah yeah um you know people love EVS but I mean disposing of chemicals that are in those batteries is not great so every Everything has in a cost that's that's why Cold Fusion was such a like pipe dream for scientists right because full Fusion the idea is that the emissions would be oxygen so right well in hyd that's hydrogen right sorry hydrogen yeah hydrogen because cold fusion they just finally actually produced some cold fusion a little while ago oh I didn't know that I don't think it'll last there's yeah there's too much work on that one anyway that's [ __ ] I neither he I mean I've got Insidious after Insidious bullet point do you want to name a couple so I have this thing that I have here from stop the coup 2025 it basically breaks down into each of the chapters sure um and chapter one is the White House right and so basically it's put an activist conservative White House Council Council in place and all of the employees of the federal government that they put into place well actually they'll all federal employees will be activist because they will be vetted for loyalty to Trump the problem here is that what they're trying to do is they're trying to make the president the executive branch all powerful doesn't matter about any of the other it takes away all of the checks and balances that are written in the Constitution yeah the the executive branch can do whatever the [ __ ] it wants what allowing it to circumvent Congress and the Senate a and and it has a supreme court backing now it does and and even if it didn't it basically eliminates them un unless they take loyalty Oaths this is all about loyalty to the [ __ ] president yeah I I thought I thought they were we were supposed to get away from the Kings right what the [ __ ] is this [ __ ] not these [ __ ] tra is [ __ ] sacks as [ __ ] dude well we have several episodes um I was saying essentially if you're incredulous about how someone could feel this way the answer is I got mine now go get yours they don't give a [ __ ] they don't give a [ __ ] they got theirs good luck getting yours yeah you know yeah I mean you know there the the other thing is that you have as White House still invite outside conservative legal advice to the White House so you're bringing people in with conservative views to give you advice on how to do things legally so you have the whole Federalist Society at your [ __ ] fingertips to tell you how to phrase things in order to get it get it passed right get and to how to phrase things so you can break the law so well yeah whatever whatever law you're breaking it does you're it comes across legally defens some sort of legal basis to absolutely um and they're considering limiting uh mainstream press access to the White House so of course shut down the [ __ ] forth estate right yep well that's kind of happened already yeah I me do we have free press in this country no well we I mean there's Politico right there's places that are independent press yeah but like how much access do they have I don't know I mean right you know there are you're not going to get killed in this country in 2024 for writing something bad about Trump but as far as like media access to to these things you know obviously they really have honed this into very specific organizations that are right-wing or or not you know I mean it's it's pretty crazy and and and to to kind of put a point on that the the whole thing is putting into place a Revenge machine right so if you do write something bad about [ __ ] president Trump in the future they can come and [ __ ] you know legal you to death essentially they won't be able to lock you up but they will be able to [ __ ] put you through a ringer legal make you not want to be a reporter anymore right I mean take away all of your rights take away your money put you in jail like they they there are plans to make Mur not the table murder's not on the table but certainly everything else is I I mean I wouldn't take it off the table I mean like I feel I if you have unlimited power what's to stop it what's to stop it and and I mean death penalty for everything one of the things that they're talking about doing is immediately upon you know first 180 days killing everybody on death row and the federal federal death row that's not like like killing everybody Josh here's the thing murder is wrong Josh so to prove that I'm going to murder this guy Mur the [ __ ] out of you yeah dude you're so murdered oh but by the way it's wrong yeah I mean just it just it's just Relentless Madness it really is uh for example it project 2025 does not actually eliminate abortion right it makes it very difficult to access so I'm going to ask you what the difference is between those two cuz I don't really know if you're poor living in Georgia you can't drive to California get an abortion that's not happening well but they're also talking about putting a federal database in place for that and keeping track of all abortions in every state who got them at what um stage of pregnancy did they get them yeah and um you know like that what you what are you going to do with that list you're just making a list checking it twice no you're [ __ ] making a list to come after these [ __ ] poor [ __ ] poor [ __ ] people man yep so um my friend I don't know if I said this on the podcast but she she asked she's she recommended that uh we have a drinking game oh okay where every time I say [ __ ] people take a drink I said a lot of [ __ ] the last episode that would I said That's like [ __ ] alcohol poisoning somebody's GNA [ __ ] die we're just GNA die here's a this is a little funny uh uh 20 project 2025 exploits the executive Branch's vast and unprecedented powers to spy on Americans lives with warrantless surveillance of our data that's the Patriot Act everything what I mean real quick here this is part of project 2025 but in 2008 with the Patriot Act it's never been revoked we we are already spying on every bit of data that's sent and received from every single citizen now I think now they're computers analyzing that not people but I think that the Patriot Act has to be renewed every year oh it does I think or not every year get shut down though Ian I don't think it why would they that's the thing once people seize power they don't let it go and but that implements it for good it signs it up for good there there is noos to being yeah I don't know if it's every year or if it's every couple years whatever it is yeah yeah I we have to talk about this a little bit here do the knuckle draggers that vote for Trump understand that project 2025 will Outlaw pornography dude I I I'm I don't think they know that I I don't think that they know that either that's one that should be [ __ ] like trumpeted from the top of buildings dude yeah if you vote for Trump you're gonna vote for censoring no porn baby no porn but you said this is just a means for what so you said that uh making pornography illegal is just a a catalyst for something else so it's it's instituting the Comstock act or starting to re to enforce the comto ACT again which was a law passed in the 1800s sometimes sometime that basically made it illegal to send um obscene material uh across state lines and so so for examp a boy mailing a Playboy mailing well see the thing about obscenity is that's not defined who claims what's obscene right so basically they're instituting the com or you know re instituting The Comstock act and then eventually what that'll apply to is myth ayone and other abortion drugs yeah probably they're talking um abortion pills Plan B um I don't see why they wouldn't stop there and also Outlaw birth control Plan B is the morning after drug right yeah right so well I mean why would they stopol why stop why what like why would they stop so it's the it's [ __ ] bad dude Jesus [ __ ] Christ it's not good at all we also eliminate the education department yes project 2045 and it would allow all federal money to be used for for um charter schools and religious schools so which I I I know I've said this I there should be no homeschooling there should be no private schools all schools should be run by the [ __ ] State I don't I do not [ __ ] care because you you you get these [ __ ] the chart God damn it dude well I mean you know okay so our son did not enjoy High School nobody enjo High School dud High School [ __ ] blows so here's the thing um there's two things here uh should radical Christians be allowed to indoctrinate their children into hate and lies I don't think so well I mean did you see I I don't think that forcing kids to go to school is a bad thing no the problem is school needs to be overhauled sure School school's its own other kind of subject you know it's based on a factory model you know from 1910 wherein you're ask you have to ask permission to use the bathroom Bells send you everywhere you're you're in the middle of a great book and a bell goes off you have to stop reading it so there's a lot of things that have to be overhauled but and yet if it's compulsory that we have to get a driver's license that we have to pay insurance there's a lot of things that are compulsory in this country a public education is for the betterment of our entire Society so circumventing circumnavigating around that is not so great no and because what you're doing is you're taking away funding for for the schools and you're making it so that it's impossible to you know keep up on education and and to keep up on the curriculum and keep up on best strategies for educating kids you you you eliminate all that money you put it in it's it's the [ __ ] privatization of everything that's what another thing about this is it [ __ ] privatizes everything which is bad [ __ ] yeah private prisons garbage slave Mills hospitals being monetized instead of used for for healthcare is insane and yeah they're talking about using instead of doing mandating Insurance they're making it easier to have health savings accounts which what who [ __ ] you're still going to go [ __ ] broke absolutely and you know uh if they're if they're talking about eliminating um the education department obviously school lunches are on the table too they're going to eliminate school lunches oh no they don't give a [ __ ] about that and I mean let's talk about that there's a lot of poor kids in this country whose only decent meal is a school lunch yeah and that's why people have worked so hard to protect them is that there are a lot of kids Living On The Fringe who are in very poor households who cannot rely on a single meal except their school lunch yeah I mean you think we have a problem with homelessness now D wait till you have a you know thousands hundreds of thousands of people that are starving here's here's what I have on on the Department of Education this is chapter 11 okay right so cut the Department of Education as a cabinet level agency reordered a chain of command and put loyalists in charge that sounds good oh that's what yeah awesome redirect federal dollars to State and local governments Champion alternatives to Liberal higher education schools private char trade Technical and faith-based institutions now I do believe that they should be putting more into trade and technical schools I like I think that that's true but everything El but nothing about this no there's no trade technical schools are awesome right and and they should actually I mean they should totally that they should be focusing on that as much as they are focing focusing on four-year degrees like I fully believe that half the population doesn't need to go to college to get a job get educated in the trades get Technical Training no I work at a junior college I mean you can go to school practically for free yeah come out with a two-year certificate get a job welding in a union job pretty easily pretty easily no and there's not everybody's meant to go to a four-year College I get it it's it makes a lot of sense it would also reverse Biden's student loan forgiveness program and crack down on loan enforcement eliminate the equity and ver diversity regulations in Title 9 and title six and then set up a parental savings account program to fund parent school choice boost parental control of classroom discussions and disclosure of school information to parents Oh goodie let's let parents have more input dude so what they mean is stop teaching about slavery well sto teaching about slavery there was just a lawsuit that was kicked out of court uh last week where somebody [ __ ] was suing because they um they were teaching evolution and it was against their religious beliefs it was a violation of their religious freedom thrown out thank [ __ ] [ __ ] Jesus Christ well you know we were talking about this last week um Republicans love to tell you that racism is not a thing in this country anymore yeah however says the racist project 2025 would censor academic discussions about race gender and systemic oppression and violation of the First Amendment and promising to cut Federal funding to schools with curricula that touch on these subjects so it's both over and not a thing anymore and we're going to stop you from talking about it and dangerous yeah what come on make up your [ __ ] mind nothing about this is consistent though like obviously this is not a consistent [ __ ] thing sure this is pure agenda absolutely yeah okay where are we going next Jesus Man Okay so let's let's since we've got a little pause here um I did watch some videos you you you successfully avoided them I I started one where dude I can't remember what he was talking about I'm like was it that weirdo who was a Catholic priest where with a big old beard and and a giant Cross he was just some fat white guy talking like I just wait wait he's white yeah imagine that say it's not so yeah it was I couldn't the other day they had some um women of color who were voting for Trump on TV and I was watching it and they're like yeah we need someone in the White House who represents us and it's like if you try to find a polar opposite of you and someone else it would be Donald Trump who who I mean someone who represents you a rich oligarch from New York who was spoonfed who never worked a day in his life represents you I don't think so whose family kicked black people out of housing is that right yeah Fred Trump was a [ __ ] bad man that was his dad he and and Trump and old dumpster fire [ __ ] mcfuckface did the same thing yeah they both like they set it up they would find you know black man in their [ __ ] building oh yeah that's not going to happen yeah I I remember I've I've heard the term [ __ ] landlords for a while but boy landlords are really I mean that's you know there's all these groups um scooping up giant amounts of property and just jacking up the rent oh yeah so those those companies should be put out of business absolutely 100% I mean that's that's why a rent so high that's why and I mean they just got busted because they would run their [ __ ] their uh rent through algorithms in order to find out to to coordinate raising rents so that's called a monopoly I mean it's collusion in a monopoly I mean these [ __ ] dude [ __ ] that black rock uh there's a couple I I can't remember all of them but yeah these these [ __ ] people they should be so real quick uh a probu which is a independent nonprofit Newsroom that produces investigative journalism with a moral Force essentially uh prua found located several if not all these training videos so these training videos once project 20125 gets instituted or I mean they're are they're being used now but essentially the idea is that you can send these training videos out to the loyalists in well that's the fourth pillar that's the fourth pillar or not the fourth one of the four pillars is is is these these training materials right and um there was we talked about the Catholic weirdo I was talking about earlier who was talking about how to address the media um so one of the things I watched was this oh God an hour it felt like 10 hours dude that's rough these two awful pasty nasty women talking about ways that you can craft the language back towards their cause basically that right they kept saying things like you know Liberals are excellent at weaponizing words and it's like do you hear what you're saying right now no one has been better than the right-wing for weaponizing language yeah the rightwing has crushed the left in the last 50 years in utilizing language against the the opposition essentially for sure no one is better than Republicans at crafting language they are amazing at they always co-opt it too right they take the the left's language and use it against them right and I mean that's what that I'm assuming this [ __ ] video is all about so these ladies were talking about ways that you can craft language back to to the right wing how you can disseminate uh left-wing nonsense and and Garett back towards White Christianity um and I had to mention a couple of the examples these lady used um one lady she said that she'd heard that children as as preschool or being given sex education and they don't mean sex education they mean positive towards lgbtq indoctrination sex is what they mean right so if you listen to these ladies children as young as preschool or being inducted into sexual education uh to call that a lie gives a bad name to lies that's that's there's nowhere that's happening well I mean it's just like this um abortions after birth thing who what the [ __ ] are you talking about these same yeah exactly these same ladies that one of them claimed that abortion was being promoted as the best birth control you know Jesus Christ plan Parenthood has said for decades now you know we about birth control and birth control options you know if if Planned Parenthood had its way there would be no abortions nobody they don't they're not pro-abortion they're Pro birth control you know and to say that anyone is saying that the abortion should be your number one birth control option again to call that a lie would be lies a bad name it's just [ __ ] insane yeah absolutely oh another thing they they they claimed I thought that was hilarious I thought you would like this um was that climate change has been disproved by science I hate these people clate change has been disproved by science so okay did they did they talk about what science they were talking about they didn't I didn't see any mention of a scientist that had disproved global warming okay cuz there's there's some [ __ ] out there that [ __ ] do it but they're hired by the [ __ ] by comp yes absolutely so yeah they they did go on and on about global warming and they they did mention a lot of the anecdotal nonsense that these idiots like to repeat yeah about it was the coldest winter ever last year you know can you find a couple of anecdotal bits that would seem like global warming was not a because well another thing they mentioned was they said oh you know in the in the 70s it was acid rain and the they they mentioned these other panics that supposedly went away and this is just another they went away because of the EPA you [ __ ] stupid [ __ ] exactly oh my God and you know that you get the same thing with the [ __ ] ozone hole the hole in Ozone well that's because they made cfc's illegal right that's uh basically everything that was sprayed used CFCs Chlor chloro foral carbons I can't even say it floro floro carbons yeah but I mean they eliminated that from all spray bottles right so that help and they replaced refrigerants with something that was less CFC I mean it's just so [ __ ] disingenuous it's insane and I know that like these people know better they [ __ ] know better the people that are hearing it maybe they don't right and so the women in this video P gri they they have to know what's and what isn't yeah like you said they're praying on people that don't when your wife asked about if these if these people are True Believers yeah they absolutely are [ __ ] True Believers but they're pure [ __ ] grift like they they know better when they're saying this to people and they know that they're going to [ __ ] fool people into believing it they just have to say enough you know things about you know queer people and transgender people they just need to like do the racist and homophobic dog whistles did and people will do their bidding yeah as we found out yeah so here here's I'm going to go into chapter 14 just real quick because this is on the Department of Health and Human Services um abortion is not Health Care it harms women and girls uh ban myth aistone and Outlaw mailing it that'll be the commstock ACT ban the morning after pill remove all funding from Planned Parenthood prevent Medicaid from paying for abortions this one [ __ ] Pro promote the Rhythm method for contraception like [ __ ] dude band fertility treatments such as three person embryo creation marriage and family should be defined by friend of the Pod the Bible so that would be the only definition of uh Mar marriage and family yeah and then on sex and gender sex is binary any challenge to this is junk science I mean it'll just take out gender entirely because I mean that that's what they're trying to address there is the idea that there is infinite number of genders you know like and fluid all that stuff that they like to to conflate the tube because it makes it [ __ ] difficult for people to know what the hell's going on what they're talking about gender firming care causes irreversible physical and mental harm um and then insurance this is again this is part of the Health and Human Services turn Medicare into a free market program which is always a good idea everything free market is good make people pay for some care under Medicaid put lifetime caps on Med Medicade benefits now I seem to remember them complaining about death panels that sounds like a [ __ ] death panel to me if you're basically saying youve spent enough money now you're going to die now it's time for you to die that is a death panel that that is a death panel I don't understand how well it's I do they're [ __ ] pieces of [ __ ] uh take a drink everybody he's just said [ __ ] but wait before you continue um good look good yeah go go ahead toally had a brain freeze right there sorry you go ahead um well I was just that that was it for for Health and Human Services right um but I mean dude there's just it's just it's Relentless it's like 25 [ __ ] chapters no no sorry 30 chapters yeah um that's what I was going to mention my wife a few years ago had a a flip idea but uh not a bad one which is that we should divide this country into the red States of America and the blue States of America so red States get everything they want uh Christianity is completely part of a teaching curriculum fine um no free health care for anybody death penalty as much as you want let's just I I'm not being uh glib here no furthering the red State agenda completely entrenched like literally all drugs are illegal marijuana's illegal just whatever you want to throw into the red States they get it and then the blue states of course get something else free healthcare for everybody reproductive freedom for every everybody uh drugs are illegal and the profits from those go right back into Healthcare imagine the gaping Chasm that would exist in the red States of America just 20 or 30 years from now think about the huge difference it would make if there wasn't welfare for the red States the blue States float the red States absolutely there they would be nothing they would have nothing there's a lot of poor white people living in these red States who not I mean they're poor and they're white but they're essentially the jobs are so you know the economies are so broken in these places without welfare they would starve to death they'd be yeah and and all that money coming from us yeah yeah I like fine you want to [ __ ] play games let's do it [ __ ] you get out if you guys are doing project 2025 we're going to do project California yeah well secede sounds great proba yeah what um ecotopia right did you ever read that book no what's that it's some [ __ ] hippie book but okay um basically it was um California Washington and California Oregon and Washington I think parts of Idaho uh seceded and basically they held they they were able to do it because they planted uh nuclear bombs all over wow all over the rest of the country and they're like [ __ ] you you know they they basically they blackmail they say like if if you if you if you want to come in and take us you know that's up to you but here's here's what's going to happen so there are enough non KKK regions of Idaho to make it worth seceding with us I think they stole it or something I don't know kicked them out kicked them not maybe there wasn't as many Nazis back then although you never know um but it basically yeah it turned into this ecotopia Wonderland and uh the rest of the country you know fell into disrepair as they were yeah I mean that's that's essentially what would happen if the blue States check I mean fine fine [ __ ] you I mean just just imagine the shape this country would take if they kicked out all the illegal immigrants I mean the our economy is fueled by illegal immigration or you know by by migrant workers if we just kick the fruit Pickers out of this country nothing it's all over I don't know we talked I've probably ramped about this before but Colorado tried to Institute that right they they made it so that if you were going to hire a [ __ ] Farm worker you had to give the option to a white person citizen but to a white person before you could give it to a migrant worker migrants don't want to do their job nobody [ __ ] showed up man what like you get like the occasional guy coming out and you know picking onions or [ __ ] whatever and they'd be there for like a half a Daye and and all I'm not coming back yeah this is the part that's especially befuddling about racism too like a Mexican are lazy you ever watch Mexican people work have you ever worked with them I mean in the kitchen those [ __ ] get down no that's Insanity yeah yeah that's complete Insanity so if Mexicans are so lazy then why won't Americans white Americans do these menial jobs this [ __ ] work yeah because they think they're above it yeah [Music] [Music] I I kind of went through a lot of my bullets did you miss any that are pretty egregious or oh I mean I've got you got several I got pages of [ __ ] dude like seriously we can have a three-hour podcast if you want let's see the executive office I think I've kind of gone over that make make the National Security Council a part of the White House um unaccountable to other offices seek to completely reverse the Biden Administration on climate change policies eliminate the gender policy Council and end all federal discussion or support for gender and lgbtq plus identity transgender care and reproductive Health including abortion and that goes like not just generally but also the military would stop paying for it yeah like everybody [ __ ] everybody loses out on this one you know Central Personnel agencies I mean it's just it's just Relentless it really is just just non-stop [ __ ] show the uh oh civil rights reduce the size authority of off reduce size authority of office for civil rights and civil liberties put it in privacy office under the office of general counsel which eliminates their access to review no advice on intelligence products the intelligence commun me just oh yeah they're they're not fans of the FBI no they're teing about gutting the um government workers and stuff like that I mean FBI is number one on their hit list that's a huge chunk of it and they'd also take make them take loyalty Oaths to um the president you know which by the way I want to point out that the FBI has consistently sent out warnings about Nazism throughout this country's last 20 or 30 years the FBI has been on the Forefront of exposing naism so you eliminate FBI or at least gut the FBI that's a major you know force that is protecting us from White hate yeah oh at least trying to expose white trying to expose it yeah I mean if you look at the like so the Department of Defense refocus the Department of Defense on war fighting and chain of of command accountability so you're you completely strip them of kind of administrative abilities or or jobs and put them back into into fighting Wars and um chain of command so there's no you I'm just following orders is kind of the story of the day um now out well this is a bad one um you adopt irregular warfare is a Cornerstone of the US military strategy abroad and at home so you're going in fighting terrorist Wars in cities you're going in and using like so they're talking about using the military against their own cforce policy yeah against their own citizens and design um a system to purchase new or experimental Weapons Systems without breaking the law but avoiding DOD regulatory red tape so you're basically buying experimental weapons to use against your your citizens means chemical weapons well also I mean some of those crazy [ __ ] noise weapons that they have now um I mean I'm not a huge believer in the whole Havana syndrome thing but if they had such a thing that would [ __ ] go on I mean anything Sops like just everything's on the table Y and not just out of the country but against their own citizens uh which I don't I'm not really crazy about either one of those no yeah I mean we not only should we not be funding Israel to Pummel the Palestinians we shouldn't be doing it to our own citizens either kind of a a pet peeve of mine little little ome yeah a little irksome uh one of the weirdest things to me in this whole thing is that they really talk about um China as the enemy and I'm unclear as to why why that is yeah because they've been a most favored nation trading partner with us for several years now well and they're very specific about Co coing up to Russia um China is no Oh you mean Heritage Foundation project 2025 is very very into coing up to Russia and but you can't figure out why it's anti-chinese why they're so anti-chinese so is that racism or just communism well it's not communism because give a [ __ ] about that yeah um it it might just be to have a generic enemy well if we're saying that the military was meant to enforce war and to prosecute Wars yeah I don't know it's I'm that one's confusing to me just because um China and Russia are such Pals right now absolutely so it's just it is a little bizarre I think it's just to have an enemy somebody specific as an enemy to build up your defense to build up your military capabilities right always works right I mean that's straight out of 1984 um yeah let's see Department of Homeland Security eliminate Department of Homeland Security and create a super agency with 100,000 strong Workforce focused on domestic law enforcement domestic law enforcement like yeah say more say more about that I mean this is using this is creating a military essentially out of the Department of home and security so the people that are there basically the border patrol people um gets turned to it into its own Army of sorts that's who's going to run the camps and that's that's going who's who who would run the camps and also um go into into cities and round people up for whatever whatever reason um I mean do they really even need a reason at this point if all this goes through if all this goes through reasons will be no it's just more it's just more armed people yeah I mean it's just another Branch sure and apparently they want to um redo the Marines I'm not sure exactly that I didn't read about I couldn't figure out exactly what they were talking about but they wanted to revamp the Marines um I don't know if that was yeah it's kind of I did not come across that in my notes that's interesting yeah um yeah see maybe the LI Marines are too liberal yeah [ __ ] of all the branches of the military they're they did have we eliminated don't ask don't K I think we have haven't we yeah that's yeah so too liberal you see what I'm saying well I mean if you're going to get rid of anybody it'd be like the Navy dude are you saying the Navy is more openly homoerotic than the or look Jesse no I'm just saying that of all the branches of the military probably the most conservative one that I can think of is the Marines oh absolutely right I mean I would say the Navy and the Air Force are probably the liberal ones of the [ __ ] of the military but do be started I mean have you seen have you read those books or heard those interviews on PR about um the strain of white supremacy that goes through the air force it's pretty crazy oh really no I I I mean I don't doubt it but ating yeah um it's Dei oh man yeah Dei is not going to survive uh voters rights obviously down the tube yeah you know that's not going to be a thing anymore well this is talking about the agency for International Development right so people funding for going into other countries and and helping them out in different ways um a lot of that would basically cut um cut any mention of a if so what happened I think it was called the Mexico Proto call where um we weren't going to give Mexico any money to help with infrastructure and stuff USA um unless they took abortion off the table okay nothing and I think Bush shrub uh I think that he instituted that in uh conditions for getting Aid in Africa and other places like that okay and that got taken out but that of course that would be reinstituted um and of course any um they can cut NOS out that would non government organizations right right they and because there is some funding that comes from usaid to NOS to help in different countries right um but if you were if if they consider that you Advocate what is it climate fanaticism then they could cut your funding right abortions cut your f as in science yeah d right don't don't use those big words okay um Dei stuff I mean anything that they hold against they can withhold they can withhold your your funding through the u USA you are not a loyalist yeah I mean this is and this is like I mean we give so [ __ ] much money to so many different places for good reason right absolutely just shot all of them and it could be for any reason or no reason they don't need to give you a reason to cut your funding it's like oh you're a climate fanatic wa wait what yeah but wait we're being taken over by a dictator doesn't matter doesn't matter no well no and especially doesn't [ __ ] matter if it's a dictator because that's our people you know that's that's the other [ __ ] thing about this whole thing is that it really is pro- fascism pro- fascism it's Pro autocracy I mean these are people that you the all right um all of these autocracies around the world right now really have no ideological connection you know North Korea doesn't have any ideological connection to Iran to Venezuela to Cuba to um to Russia to Hungary none of these people have an ideological connection what they do have is they all want money and they all want to keep power and that's what's going to happen here we will be tied up with all of these people I mean these people send money to each other they send equipment to each other they send technology to each other in order to help keep each other in power because their one thing that they do agree on is that we in the west liberal values are bad that's the only thing keeping us together or keeping them together and keeping them them on the same page sure once the US Falls then we become part of that [ __ ] Network Ry Inc we become part of that [ __ ] Nexus of [ __ ] horror well and obviously this chess piece is a gigantic one it's the it this is the queen and the king I mean this is all of them cuz who's left after this you've got NATO and Europe and they're [ __ ] without us yeah wow Josh thanks a lot dude I'm sorry I BR I started out today pretty excited and pretty chipper till I saw you Jesus Christ sorry ass I see let's see if there's anything else that I [ __ ] ruin a day with here I'm sure I got more but I really I I mean I think I think people really just need to know about this and do as much talking to people about this and letting everybody know that if this comes into play the American experiment's pretty much done yeah uh they always say this is the most important election of our life time um whatever they've said before that is the case yeah this is This truly is the most important election of our lifetime CU so this I I don't I don't know what the [ __ ] I don't know what the [ __ ] will do to to make the like if if Trump gets in I don't know I mean that's it and how how long can you leave right well not only that I mean like you know you and I can afford to leave this country right there's millions of Americans that can't so I don't think that I don't think that I could I mean really but I'm saying I mean you'd have a shot right I mean you'd have a shot of getting the funds together to leave there's people that have no shot at that obviously yeah I mean [ __ ] talk about a [ __ ] hole country Jesus that's where we're at next year this does this happens just a long sigh yeah yeah are you uh you going to watch the uh debate tomorrow yep oh can't wait yeah my mother-in-law is still kicking in there so we're going to go to her house and watch it so oh nice we just you know she's in hospice but she's kicking in there she's doing pretty good and her uh my wife keeps saying you know just stay stay alive long enough to watch the debate or stay alive long enough to to see KL Harris get elected eled yeah so we're going to go watch it with her pretty excited right on so it looks like he's going to be there looks like he's going to show up whites the eyes man actually yellow of the eyes so [ __ ] M [ __ ] face will be there I mean you and I should have had a bet about this because I think all along I thought he would show up because of his own hubus and you thought he's just too cowardly so it's and yeah we'll we'll see tomorrow I I I I hope that it goes the way that I think it will go yeah and someone a leftwing guy on MBC MSNBC the other day did have some good points he was you know we've all been pretty giddy for the last couple months about the Democratic party and it's been pretty exciting but he did have a good cautionary warning which is don't forget Trump is a really good debater doesn't mean he's good with issues or facts but as far as his presence and his ability to turn things around in his favor let's hope she doesn't underestimate him I don't think she will let me just say this yeah is he is not a good debater no well he's not he he can't [ __ ] string words together no I hear what you're saying yes that's true but his he is excellent at circumventing any rule in place to turn things in his favor he you know what I mean like he's an awful debater he he can't he can barely string two sentences together as far as words go he's probably one of the worst Debaters of all time he's an absolute [ __ ] [ __ ] so when I hear people say that he's a good debater I I I I don't I don't think people understand what a debate is for the most part and I'm not being an [ __ ] to you it's a valid point no it's a valid point I like when people say that he's a good debater that's [ __ ] what he is good at right is being a narcissistic [ __ ] semi charismatic [ __ ] and he can he can he he never even really turns anything into his favor he just puts out a Zinger and acts like he won sure right so I I think that when he's got somebody who can actually [ __ ] debate and and can stick to the issues stick to it and [ __ ] fight his ass in the in the way you shut the [ __ ] up old man you're drooling right somebody needs to [ __ ] say that out loud to him of course somebody needs to be like completely [ __ ] abusive to him and that will turn the [ __ ] tide so that's what I'm hoping to see I'm hoping to see her just [ __ ] cram that [ __ ] Gucci up his ass yeah can't wait and you know to the to the credit of the guy that said good deater I don't think he means excellent orator no one in the world could ever possibly mean that about Trump yeah I just think if you look at Trump going into a debate you know I thought Biden was going to wipe the floor with him last time that didn't happen he got bullied now that doesn't mean again that Trump's a good orator but he is good at winning debates and call it whatever you want he is good at winning debates I guess I I guess I see I the whole idea of a debate to me is stupid because most of the time it's pure parlor tricks right it's it's [ __ ] it's using words in ways that you know I mean it's disingenuous right and and there's specific things that you can do to make a debate um turn in your favor right he can't do any of that no um and and so I don't know I I understand what you're saying and I do get that I do believe that just don't take him I think don't take him lightly is a good is a good War agreed yeah yeah agreed take take him seriously but don't [ __ ] take him too seriously and definitely dude I hope she [ __ ] just calls his [ __ ] ass out mother I I dude come on man I mean you know could he win this election yes can he beat her in a debate I don't think so not a chance no she is an impressive intelligent woman who is confident in her own ability and she should wipe the floor with him have you looked at any of the um uh the articles about their debate prep no what did you find um well she obviously is [ __ ] preparing preparing for his [ __ ] yeah and um you know mock debates sitting down talking points yeah all this stuff he kind of sits around and talks about what he's going to say that's his debate prep and apparently they've tried to get him to like do it but he just he hasn't got the focus for it so they're just and they're hoping that happy Trump shows up and not angry grumpy Trump that's that's what now that would be an interesting wrinkle if happy Trump shows up I hope all she does all she needs to do is say get out of my face you fat [ __ ] something like that just to get under his [ __ ] you know you think you're good-looking do you yeah oh he's much better looking she is come on man I mean just just needle them just get under and and it would just once he launches it's [ __ ] over once once he launches it's over by the way uh since we just talked about project 2025 we have to mention this did you see the last time uh Trump in the last couple weeks has said the words out loud you know your kids they could go to school and come back a different gender have you heard him say that yeah that whole the whole Child Care speech that he did that was just like people are like oh oh he's really losing it he's making no sense no kid has ever gone to school come back a different gender it's never happened I mean it's is like after being born abortions dude like what the f what is that now I heard that referenced you said that earlier and I've I don't remember the reference though he's he's said that they're AB they're having late term abortions they're even having abortions after birth what the [ __ ] are you talking about dude if you needed proof that [ __ ] mcfuck face doesn't understand what words mean that would be it he's such a goddamn [ __ ] okay would you got you got to I have an [ __ ] so this is going to seem anticlimactic compared to what we just talked about but I had to have an [ __ ] of the week [ __ ] of the week Tucker Carlson good this is Viv ho from The Daily Beast uh the bid Administration is condemning Tu Carlson for his 2-hour interview with a holocaust denier who spread Nazi propaganda calling the sit down a disgusting sadistic insult to all Americans um earlier this week uh Tucker Carlson uh hosted podcaster Daryl Cooper in his show uh Cooper suggested in the interview that Nazi Germany's mass murder of the Jews was an accident and that the millions whoops whoopsy I'm sorry are you laughing at the Holocaust um but listen to this it was an accident and the millions who were systematically murdered just ended up dead at concentration camps because of poor planning oh okay how did that happen now let's slow that down what were the Germans great at planning planning dude dud no one planned better than the Germans God it's funny because like um not funny at all Holocaust deniers uh they'll have several theories about why the Holocaust was fake yeah right but if you just look at the German Nazi recordkeeping it is the most meticulous thing you have ever seen in your entire life like there you know Trump tries to lie and obate the truth the the Nazis documented all of it everything every single life was documented so poor planning Germans are kind of known for their planning dude what so what the [ __ ] so that's our assho all the week Tucker Carlson just having a holocaust Den on his show like it's just no thing at all well Tucker Carlson Tucker Carson I would expect nothing less from that [ __ ] Jesus Christ um by the way uh Elon Musk our friend friend of the Pod said the interview was very interesting God damn it and was worth watching in a post on X that he later deleted now this is what I just can't get if if if if Elon Musk is omniscient and smart and a genius why' he delete that because he got what he wanted out of it yeah I guess so I mean he's he's a piece of [ __ ] like and and again he's Tucker Carlson he's totally getting paid off by the Russians Elon definitely paid off by the Russians right like this is all Russian talking points all these things are to sew Discord in America and bring down the the the Spectre of liberalism in the in the world absolutely they this that's what this is all about good news I have a couple quotes oh fine to end it up uh first of all we got to toast bad dads that's the thing we have to do every every uh episode is toast the bad dads cheers cheers for all the bad dads Che bad dads us three quotes here the first one kind of on its own says um this is Robert bral who was an author uh he said that life becomes easier when you learn to accept apology you never got oh yeah I thought that was interesting that's a good one that's a something about bad dads right like for sure not getting an apology just get over that you're not going to get that it's fine the next two are from Carl Y young and WC Fields now what does Carl Young have to do with WC Fields you tell me young said the world will ask you who you are and if you do not know the world will tell you which I think in just a few words is one of the most profound things I've ever heard right figure out who you are and own that cuz if you don't the world will tell you who you are yeah WC Fields however said it ain't what they call you it's what you answer to I don't know if uh WC Fields read CW young kind of sounds like he did I'm gonna go ahead and put that out there so yeah WC Fields was a was a fan of K young and kamla Harris is a listener to this podcast hi kamla these you're the best K all right man thank you for working so hard on that really appreciate it I hope that it was you know new information for some people it was both entertaining and terrifying thanks a lot Josh well um glad to do it see you next week yeah rock on man take care yeah you have been listening to V truvian man if you'd like to get a hold of us you can either call us at 415-484-6062 [Music] [Applause] [Music]