Rachel Scott Podcast

make sure hello that's good check perfect awesome hello hello everyone and welcome to my Vasa practices podcast heartfelt Consciousness my name is Michelle young and I'm here today with Rachel Scott Rachel welcome thanks for being on thank you Michelle it's so nice I've I've connected with you sort of in the virtual space like there's been like all these kind of email connections or yoga Alliance things and so it's really nice to and I saw you briefly in person at the nerve Tor but it's nice to see you here so nice to see you Rachel I'm so excited to talk to you because you have done just a ton of work in the yoga industry as a curriculum developer as a a yoga teacher yoga teacher trainer a writer author editor like you wear so many hats and a lot of our students who either come through our training initially or they're coming through supplemental training are looking to take their career online and it's always a great um opportunity to have guests on that have done that and have you know created this evolving career that's not static that continues to move and grow with them so I'd love to start at the beginning with what inspired you to get into yoga and move on from there oh my gosh self-preservation I think you know how it is it's like I went to if I remember remember I started yoga in 1998 and I started I went to my first class because I had an uh my boyfriend at the time was uh struggling with anxiety and he you know turned out he was kind of like bipolar and he had mental health challenges and so he went to yoga and loved it and at the time I was this you know you know ambitious struggling artist in New York City and so so much of what I did with my body and myself was performative and then I got into the yoga space and it was like Oh you mean nobody's watching this is just for me what and um and I'm a real Vata person like I love caffeine it's my drug of choice and so yoga is very grounding it's like it gets you back into your body in a way or my body in a way that was really more accepting um and began a path I'll say began a path of being able to be more self-loving because a lot of us walk around with these you know voices in our head that are mean or you know not good enough or not pretty enough whatever those thoughts are which I had so many of them you know in my 20s and I'd say that yoga was a really important tool in that healing process and the Reclamation process of coming back to ourselves so that's what's kept me coming back I love it I love it I and I love that it was a balance for that artistic creative expression of self you know and helped you I think that's where a lot of students that I work with whether they're in person or they're online they they come to yoga and they don't understand that it isn't performative you know like they they feel like they have to get to a certain place or have to do a certain pose but really like the magic happens when you hear that voice in your head say you have to do that and you're like but why but why do I have to yeah yeah yeah like it's such a good um little and laboratory is too cold of a word but coming to the mat she indicates the floor coming to the mat is it is it becomes this little place where we can self-reflect right and we can go like okay is that true do I know that that's true um and so you know it's it's not like that yoga is about improving our mindset but improving the mindset is a tool that helps you to come to yoga so we can start to you know you were talking a little bit before we started recording about limiting beliefs and we can start to air those right and see them come up through the physical practice and then we can make them better make them better hopefully right absolutely absolutely so how did you transition from the art world as like a passion or a career to yoga yeah again I'd say self-preservation so I so I I was an actor in New York theater you know and equity and uh which means basically like you get up at 5: in the morning go stand in line for an open call with 300 other people and then come back for a 10-minute SP spot to do your monologue that no one pays attention to so that's kind of like the the life of of of that and my experience and that was really uh became very uh sad you know and very challenging and demoralizing in some ways and so then I went through this horrible kind of divorce as many of us do like you know we went through I run through a rough experience and that experience and a lot of upheaval in my personal life at that time um meant that the Arts just didn't feel as and I love the Arts you the profession is sometimes hard but Arts are amazing but um the business of it was really hard and i' all I'd also already become a teacher because I loved it in yoga and the yoga world and its lessons and what I could learn from it was a much more nourishing place to work through some of these challenges in these difficult times in my life divorce moving loss death all of these things yoga became a place to that was welcoming for that experience and to move through it in a way and the Arts not so much like going in getting rejected at auditions was like I was like I can't do it right now so then I you know kind of transitioned more fully into that it been it been on the sidelines it been a a companion and then it became more of the center stage of what I was doing absolutely I think that is where a lot of our students are they have it as a companion and they're ready to move forward and you know and devel v a career that is based in yoga um how how did you do that what what were some of the pival decisions that you made to transition from one career to another yeah I'd say it was much more it was much more organic for me than it was like okay this is it um and I think one of the things that pulled me into that transition which is a little different than some of our folks out there um was that I had I'd always been involved in big studios so when I did my first teacher training in New York I was with B Yoga which had five Studios and then Yoga Works came in I did the teacher training with them they had a bunch of studios and already from the beginning to finance my 300 I was I did work study right and then they were like hey you seem good at this why don't you stick on around and help us with the teacher management and so I had a foot in the studio system and had been doing that part-time and then you know to you know as like the sideline to my acting career was doing this and then in Vancouver I was offered a job um Studio managing and so I got connected to big studios like Y Yoga I think at the time had four Studios eventually had 12 and so I was involved in an organization that could support me more fulltime um but I will say to everyone out there it's like there's ways to do that it wasn't like I was teaching yoga full time although I know plenty of people who did that part of my world was management teacher management auditions creating eventually cre creating teacher trainings and a teacher training program so I was using other parts of my life skills to kind of Finance myself and also teaching and also happened to be in the yoga world that I loved but the the studio is what let me do it sort of gracefully full-time because they could afford a full-time salary so and then but then later I left the studio and went out on my own and that's been a different sort of kettle of fish so to speak but um but that's what kind of moved me fulltime immediate like in the moment yeah absolutely absolutely I I can relate to that a lot I I did a lot of teaching but then also teacher training and you know workshopping and you know moving around um and I think for me that transition to going fully on my own um and then like deciding what I wanted that to look like was you know sort of the turning point for me in in my career um and so like what did that look like when you decided that you were going to let go of the studio as that safety net and move into like your own brand how did you make that transition ah it was it was great um and it had been in the okay so there's like always like our yoga and our personal lives it's always like this right so I had reached a point in Vancouver first of all I I was the director of what what was it called I think my title was director of teachers College in teacher development so I first I was just creating all the teacher trainings for Y Yoga and then I was also they were like you created the teacher trainings now you don't have to spend time on that so now let's also have you help with auditions mentorship all that stuff which was great loved that but the they were reaching a point where they you know they kind of felt like we have our trainings it's a well-oiled machine we don't really need someone to monitor it anymore we can just sort of manage it so they didn't really need me as much in the role that I had been doing and at the same time personal life I was through this thing where I was like you know um I I looked around and I was like I don't have a husband and kids which I totally thought I was like I'm I'm gonna have a husband and kids and so at 40 I looked around and this is what led to my one of my books which I wrote was because of this experience where I was like where where's my baby daddy where are my children and I was like okay and I went out and try and was like I'm G to make a I'm going to stop eating popcorn and drinking red wine and sitting on my couch and moping that I don't have this and go out and see if I can make this Happ happened so at around 40 you know I went out and joined all the dating sites and tried to like you know get the meet the guy the father my base like had navigated that whole world of online dating anyway so I went through that whole crazy thing because one of the reasons I'd been staying in my job was because I thought if I ever had maternity leave I wanted maternity leave you know and as entrepreneurs we don't you don't get that um but once I realized anyway so that's a whole big Side Story of that Journey but once I kind of came to the place where I was like oh that's not that's not how I'm going to create family that's not what it's going to be for me and then I thought well then I want to be mobile you out there might be relating to that I want to be able to go anywhere and hang out with my nieces and hang out with my family and if I'm not gonna be here with kid kids and I want to be able to travel I got to take advantage of that then if that's not the gift then I have to figure out what the gift is so that's what prompted me to transition out of staying in a local studio and to moving on my own so I think that the motivation and to know why you want to do it and what you're going to get helps to make the work that you need to do to build that um it's more exciting because then you're like I know why I'm doing this it's not just because it was it's scary right to take that leap where you go I don't know where I don't have someone who's going to feed me the paycheck regardless of how well it's going I'm the one who's going to have to to make this happen and sometimes we have ideas about it too like we think I thought you know I was like oh well I'm going to take a massive salary cut like this is going to be I'm going to have to be frugal for a while and one of my fellow teacher trainers was like how do you know that's true maybe that's not true and I was like oh maybe again those beliefs right I was like maybe that's not true and it wound up not to be true I wound up doing you know like it was a transition that actually worked and then I did better I was able to expand beyond what I'd been doing so that was like um but you don't know we don't know we don't know yeah absolutely absolutely there's so so many similarities a little bit different but very similar there's something that happens to you in your 40s man it just like changes the game um I was actually talking with Gil about this the other day about how like you know the and and then I would even love to continue the conversation you know in another episode but like something really has happened through my work that has informed like identity that I didn't know that I had right and it's sort of what you're saying like I I thought I should get married my parents died when I was young so I got married and I had the three kids before I was 25 and now I'm 45 and they're all going to college and I'm like wait a second was what was this I mean I don't regret it and that was a lot of shs you know so it's so interesting when you get to this place where you have that self-awareness where you can say oh you know I I don't have to do anything you know I can do really what makes my heart sing and what you know lights me up and uh so I think that transition can be really exciting and you're right who knows what's GNA happen like is it really true that you're gonna have to struggle not never a lot of people's experiences know you know so I think that you get out on your own you do have a lot more flexibility and freedom I know for me I wanted to go online since the get-go even when I was teaching in an academic setting I wanted to create online curriculum that was scalable um I have a masters in um in curriculum development management similar to what you have as well and I knew that that creating scalable content was really what I wanted to do um and I wanted to still support it but I didn't want to be beholden to these 30 bodies in a class or these you know 25 yogis in a training or whatever it was so creating the online digital content was was like a like a huge motivator for me um and originally my teacher trainings were supposed to be professional development for educators I wanted Educators to learn how to come clean to their students without projection so it wasn't about teaching teachers how to do yoga ASA or pranayama in class it was about teaching them to have their own practice so that they had the spaya skills to not come and project their BS onto our kids and uh and there's a whole backstory where that came from but um but it led me down this path so how did you get into the online world and what do you like about it yes yeah you know it was interesting I took some online courses uh I don't know it's got to be like 2012 11 something something like that and with teachers that I loved one teacher in particular who I just adore and still adore to this day but I took his online course I'm like why is this so hard to why is this so painful and I thought there's got to be a better there's got to be a better way and also um you you could sort of see the writing on the wall and you know in the early two10 whatever you're like the things are going to get more online and thinking ahead and I don't know if I was this clear about it at that time but on having an online as folks out there know online resources as a yoga teacher where usually you're bound by hour toour presence you know you got to be there for the class or the workshop or the private but when you have online you you can create value without you having to be right which is so important for sustainability for avoiding burnout for resilience and also for getting your message beyond your local Geographic group so you can expand your teaching voice and you know we only need what 100 to True fans someone says something like that and so when you can you know share your message globally or at least to the countries that speak your language then you have more of a chance of finding the people who really anchor and resonate with what you can offer so anyway so all that is to say that I started seeing like I want to know how to create online curriculum that works because this amazing teacher who I love who's an academic too as well as a practitioner I was like I I don't think this quite got it and I feel like we could do better so I don't I want to do better I want to be able to make curriculum that works and I thought you know what I might be able to also help and be a bridge because I kind of it's like Gil laugh I'm like Gil's left brain and he's like the right brain so I can like help people one of the one of my little one of my modest superpowers is I can take this kind of lightning of you know inspiration that people have and help to organize it I can capture their lightning in a bottle and then structure it and that's what I help people do it's like to create methodology out of the beautiful Madness that might be out there and so I thought I can maybe help some of these yogis who you know we might be exceptions to this and I don't mean to generalize but a lot of yogis are organic kind of thinkers right they're they're they they're feeling people they're Ed they don't always think in terms of like boxes or structure and I thought maybe I can help create that bridge to to so that they can share their um understanding and their knowledge with more efficacy let's make it more effective so you know and I think that there's you know talking to to scale which you've done so beautifully with your work um but it's like also helping yogis you know be resilient and be sustainable because this is because yoga's got a good message that a lot of people could benefit from so hey let's let's make that let's make that louder and make it more effective so absolutely so when when you started did they were when I started we didn't have um LMS or learning management system so I literally built it on the back end of some WordPress site and it was Cluny and junky and all the things and I don't know why people bought it to be honest with you but you know but people they they like the content but uh it the platform wasn't great when you started what was available to you and what are you using now yeah that's a great question um so when I started I started with uh think giic which I still use to this day so thinkific and teachable seem super similar to me like one's Canadian and and I since I lived in Vancouver and thinkific was anchored in Vancouver I was like okay great this is what I'll use um um but I also helped universities for a while which it sounds like you had experience in the academic world too so you know I did my masters my masters that I did was actually online we did it through Blackboard which is a horrible horrible beast and then when I was working I worked with um some University clients to help their faculty move their projects online and that was mostly in uh canvas which was great which is great in fact people can still get you can use it actually for free um but the problem is is that it doesn't serve most of our yoga entrepreneurs out there because it doesn't have payment portals and manage students and stuff like that which is what we need so teachable and think giic um and kajabi is you know a massive Allin one which is super expensive you don't necessarily need that but it kind of combines website you know client management and cific although I always say this whenever I talk about kajabi I really hate their quiz functionality it's so bad anyway so so think giic is what I use um and it's a good I think it's a good middle of the road solution it's not you know massive like kajabi is but it makes it super easy for creators to organize their course content and it makes it into a pretty site for you and it can manage Payment Processing all of those things are are pretty helpful so awesome awesome and there's a million out there as you know which I and I'm not versed in all of them we just moved we actually moved which I do not recommend anybody doing now 2020 I would not do it again um but we moved to learn world because we with our yoga Therapy Program especially iy just updated their standards and they're you know allowing for online but 500 hours has to be synchronous which is fine but we needed a way to track it and that so we needed more robust grading system like now we're operating more like an academic like institution um and the accountability measures that we needed but teachable was great for a long time we used teachable that was much much uh better than what I had cobbled together so um I think what I hear most from people is that they just get so overwhelmed and the two biggest things that I hear from people is that they're overwhelmed by videoing themselves and they're overwhelmed by like um all of the different like payment processing and things like that so tell me a little bit about like how you have gone about getting comfortable behind a camera and what your process is do you do your editing do you send it out you know everybody's different you know and and I've tried it both ways so I'd love to hear what your take is yeah so one of the benefits of having an MFA and acting is that you're not uncomfortable in front of a camera so that was one of the benefits of three years of a master's degree in Performing Arts so I think that I came into it with a greater ease in terms of being front of the camera um but I do it all myself so uh and all you need is a iPhone and a tripod guys get a tripod it will save you so much pain just get a tripod I have a whole article actually I'm a big fan of sharing re res ources so on my blog I have an article that I put out at the beginning of Co when people were doing this which tells you all the tech I use like the adapters um my wireless mics that I use which you you know anyway so there's Tech resources on that if you kind of want a place to start so the thing about video um is it can be really simple and here's another thing about video unless you're teaching a class or a practice really your video should be pretty short so like six minutes or less right so like key Ida and then give them that to chew on and then you know integrate so that just kind of can help take the pressure off if you think you have to do this massive lecture you don't um but in terms of getting started I would say imagine first of all figure out where in your camera you need to look to look like you're looking at it because if you look you know what I mean if you look at yourself and then you look at the video playback it might look like you're looking off one thing that might help folks is um you can create a script for yourself now now I don't recommend doing that uh consistently because you're it's a little bit better just create a poster board and put your key points and then speak organically about them it's much more natural however uh for some of the courses that I did one of them in particular I had a lot of content to describe and so I created a script and you can use like an app called teleprompter and it turns this into a teleprompter so you're looking at your script in the right place that's kind of technical but you know just practice and pretend the camera is just a friend that you're talking to like your buddy that's going to help you seem more natural and what I would say is that presence and personality is more important than Perfection right it's kind of like we sort of think I have to do it I can't mess up I can't mess up I mess up plenty of my videos you pick it up and move on it's a conversation it does not have to be perfect in fact Perfection is the death of it especially with something like video where you feel like you should make it exactly so don't worry about it people like a little Humanity right 100% so we I can't tell you how many times we've redone all of our stuff especially the core courses um we refilmed and refilmed and refilmed but a couple years ago we were during covid and I had a woman in Greece and we were on a live lecture and she said I just have to tell you she was like when I first saw some of your videos I was just appalled she was like you were making mistakes the editing wasn't perfect da d da and then I read more about uh we were talking about Ponch of reties the five mental fluctuations and she was like wait a second it's okay for me to make a mistake and it was like so liberating for her that she wanted to come on camera and thank me for being more authentic in that way um but I agree with you keep them short you know and organic is is best you can always edit it out I think one of the biggest things that I tell people is if you make a mistake pause for 15 seconds or more and then start at the beginning of the sentence rather than trying to start in the the middle so that when you're editing you don't have this weird you know with the head or the mouth or whatever and um and then just go on but there's some great editing softwares out there these days so I really people to do it what have you used for your editing software that you played with I played with for a long time we stuck with like iMovie right you know but then I went into I started playing with um the Adobe Premiere Pro um and I like that a lot um going blind Rachel the older I get the more I need to wear my glasses more frequently so I really have to like you know wear my glasses and I have to like pull it up um and and be very intentional about it but um I taught my my 18-year-old to edit so he does some of our editing and then I I do some of it as well but I've gotten super efficient with Adobe Premiere Pro what do you use awesome I use something called Camtasia which is an it's a it's like um what's the other thing that those guys use it's techsmith and so they do things like snag it and like screen capture stuff and I really like it because it has some it's made it's kind of an educational one and so it's really easy to pull in like title screens or to add animations or to add in text so a lot of my YouTube videos um I pull I will pull write text on the screen as well just to kind of reinforce key ideas or to spell things out so I like it because it makes that super easy I used to use iMovie and I have to do all these like screen and Screen Tex TT things and it was just like a little tedious so Camtasia makes that all super easy it's not without its flaws none of them this is the thing none of them are going to be perfect your platforms are not going to be perfect you know your editing software is not gonna be perfect there is no perfect out there um but you can really work with the the key is to find something that has most of what you want and then you can work around the rest so yeah no I completely agree and microphones are so important microphone so important lighting and it doesn't have to be anything crazy I mean even right now we've just got like a little a little up just to give us a little bit more brightness but I think those are the two things that really can add so much value to a video um but I want to go back to what you said about personality because I did not have the acting background so those first early years if you to watch some of those old videos it's like this just you know and they would say be like the content's great but this is really boring and I be like all right okay but then I got a little bit more Saucy like as the years went on I was like they can see a little bit of my personality like that's okay and I think that's what people want a lot of times students I'll be like you have your people out there like you are a voice for somebody so don't limit yourself and think that oh because you're not this or you're not you know you don't look like this or have this body type or whatever that you're not gonna have people you have people you know so really capitalizing on your own personality and your perspective I think can be really helpful yeah yeah absolutely yeah and that's why I think the simple trick of like pretend you're talking to your bestie you know can help or get you know for the first time through if there you've got a bestie who's local bring them in and have them sit behind the camera right or so we can become more conversational because that's you're right it's like people want to see that and one of the things that can help too is that I like I have a whole like YouTube channel on Anatomy or you know and some other things I taught I really I get excited about teaching these things so I think also when you're speaking to something you're excited about let it show be like oh my God this is amazing like people are gonna get excited if you're excited yeah so that's another thing that can help totally totally well so we've talked about the the transition from you know one career to another moving into yoga going online how does all of this fuel your heartfelt desire oh oh you know it's it's you know I think that my heartfelt desire is to keep learning like I think if I think about the things that keep pulling me it's to stay engaged and keep deepening my well and keep diving into the mystery and so the work that I do with curriculum building it allows me to stay in process with people and to be um and to keep learning myself because what I love to do is I learn and then I kind of transmute that into a curriculum that then's useful and so um what I've created is an ability to keep exploring what I am curious about and passionate about and I think that that's that's what keeps us going I mean he guys any job you get even if you like create the ideal yoga career there's going to be 20% of your job you're like oh my God right there's always going to be the 20% of admin answering whatever it is that's going to be like H got to build another spreadsheet whatever but as long as there's something which you and you guys like you know out there when you feel like oh this this SES my heart and even if it's hard like you know following your Dharma it doesn't always mean it's Pleasant right it's not always easy but it fulfills that voice inside of you it goes like yes this is this is an expression of what I believe to be true or this is moving me in the direction of Truth sorry I got a little Zoom there that's awesome no definitely I think I I think that I couldn't agree more it's you know the passion that we have to share I love the evolution that happens you know when we are you know living our Dharma I I used to tell my teacher our Karma precipitates our Dharma like I can't be in somebody else's Dharma because literally my karma got me here and so I just love how if you allow it to it opens you up it creates space for you to see it from other people's perspective it creates space for you to tap into that Wellspring of unconditional love for yourself and others if I fall into this idea that I know and that this is the only way then I limiting myself I don't have the capacity to see it in other ways and that's really what I think yoga is it's it's this broader Union of like my lived experien is based on my perspective of the world is based on my lived experience it's not universally true what's your perspective and how can we connect in that way and learn from each other um yeah I was actually just talking um about that uh in an internal meeting about you know as we because I feel like I'm constantly evolving curriculum I'm constantly changing I'm looking back and I'm like H you know how Gil and I were talking about it the other day he's like yeah I taught it this way this way and then oh wait no I want to teach it this other way or I've learned it now a different way that I think is really like where the magic is and it keeps us from being wrote and it keeps us passionate about what we're doing yeah this is such a good point like we can also sometimes get trapped by our own structure you know it's like if I create like I've created a teacher training that I teach a certain way there's certain principles of alignment and that's how that's how we learn it and then it's kind of like well but I want to grow beyond that too you know so it's kind of like okay here's one and here's the next step and here's the next step and to let ourselves be part of the mystery so it's kind of like as much as we are agents to also let ourselves be worked upon by these Universal forces to create some space to listen to something new and then step into that right it's that's what keeps it going it absolutely does I'm not I haven't been trained in ainga principles but um we have a teacher on staff who has and I'll listen to her and it was funny because years ago when we first started working together she'd say something I'd be like that's not how it is and now it's more like oh that's a different way to look at it you know or that's a different or like you know because I sometimes get very you know like very left brain it's like this is the language that I use my husband's a linguistic so he's and and he speaks many languages so I'm like this is the context right but then there's so many borders and boundaries that I can't connect beyond that so I think that that's been one of the biggest lessons for me is that there really isn't a right way there are different types of perspective and styles and interpretations of things and um and that's really where the Unity comes from so yeah yeah that's wonder I mean I think that's so important I I talked to a lot of different schools about curriculum because they all anyways so what I'm very clear about in this curriculum that I created for folks is that it's it's not about the right or the wrong right it's kind of like it's always when we're when we're teaching a certain way or using a certain style of queuing or we're teaching a class with more breath Focus queuing or we're teaching in class the more alignment Focus queuing it's not one's better or worse but one will reveal something and then you kind of gain something and lose something from each different way of doing it so it's not like this is the way it's kind of like what what's the experience and this is where I think someone's teaching voice can be so interesting because when you go like okay here are all my teaching tools quue with a breath I can queue alignment I can Quee using these kinds of cues or stabilizing cues I got this whole you know Symphony of of opportunity here and how I choose to use this I'm going to sacrifice certain things as part of this experience but I'm going to sort of turn up the volume or like my little slider knobs of my Orchestra on certain things and then what so what is my intention as a teacher what do I want to create from this experience and then what are the tools that I'm going to pull into do this and that's what creates a quote unquote style of yoga right and we have different kind of tools that we we pull from so not to villainize whatever like I I say people are like what kind of yoga do you like I'm like I like all the yoga the Big Yoga love them all but not all at you know but ones at certain times like I'm not gonna like all of them all the time certain ones are gonna be better at other times than others absolutely well you've alluded to this a little bit but I'd like to know more about how you work with people to help them to create curriculum it sounds like you work with larger you know University academic sort of um outlets and then you know do work with smaller individual teachers what does that look like you know tell me a little bit about that sure there's a whole range I don't really work with I don't work with universities anymore that was kind of something I did which was super useful very glad that I had that opportunity to sort of be in that world for a little bit but um I work with everybody so I work from I mean a lot of the bigger Studios not bigger Studios but a lot of Studios typically who have been in existence for a couple years who don't have a teacher training yet don't know how to do it um want to do it um that's typically who I work with because they're the ones who are like I really want to be able to offer this to my community but either I don't know how to create curriculum I don't have 400 hours to create curriculum which is you know at least how long it should take and so you don't know where to start and so that's when they find me and I can provide a a whole different range of support so I actually created an online course which was create your training which is like how do you what's your mission your vision in the world like what do you want to create what's what do you want and then from that vision of the teachers you want to kind of engender and Foster working backwards to how do you create a curriculum it meets that and so like but I gotta be honest not a lot of people have the time or the bandwidth to do that from scratch but it's there and then on the other end I've created a curriculum which a lot of folks use as a foundation for their teacher training and you know sometimes they'll it's like lesson plan right it's like very mapped out it's a huge guide for folks and sometimes they'll take that and they'll use that just as it is and then some will what I encourage them to do is to adapt it because I want them I don't like studios are not cookie cutter we have different you know right we got different voices you have a different community so to take that and then to spend rather than spending your time building some of these things from the ground up to spend your time adapting and um making it your own right and kind of pulling it into your heart and sharing the things you want to share so but I've worked with you know individuals to help with things like yoga Alliance registration which I'm very familiar with at this point uh you know that into people want to create an online course and I take them through the process of it from beginning to end so they have a road map and then once they know how to create that then they can do that for any subject any course anytime so that's a really useful one for folks who want to create online courses I've mentored people one-on-one with things like you know helping to just honestly sometimes people just need a coach to kind of hold their hand and say like these are your deadlines how are we going to get you there and to move them through that so there's a whole a whole range but from individuals to Studios you know awesome I love I I love that um I I wish I had more bandwidth I I've gotten I've gotten lost in the business of it honestly because you know one of our goals go was to create jobs during Co and we created jobs and um which was great awesome but now it's you know there's a certain level of responsibility I think from my perspective I love the online world and when you do create jobs and you know we wanted to have I wanted to be able to offer yoga teachers the opportunity to teach pangali and yoga Jana yoga like these real like ancient practices that are are much more introspective from their living room in their pajamas and get paid a decent amount of money for it I mean like because that was the dream it's like I I want I told my teacher when I got done with my 500 hour I said you know I don't think I want to be a studio teacher like I want to do more of the philosophy stuff I love teaching an o in a class and some people just get lit by that and for me I get lit by that other stuff and so bringing in and and creating you know those jobs was fantastic and there's now a responsibility to maintain that that scale you know which takes me out of I can only create a certain amount whereas used to it was 100% create and now it's like 20% create 75% manage and 5% administrative you know it's like administrative is the part you're like you know so um I I love that you are able to work with people oneon-one if somebody wanted to get in touch with you and to have that relationship and get some guidance and support how would they find you yeah so you can go to my site which is Rachel yoga r a l yoga.com and I have I'm happy to meet with anybody I have like a link on my site under the contact me um also you can find me on Instagram Rachel Scott yoga or YouTube Rachel Scott yoga but I'm happy to meet with people for like a half an hour um I just have it's like book a coffee chat with me you know bring bring your coffee grab some time and I'm really like it's one of the things okay about being online is that you get to connect with people all over the world and there's something really magical about that so I'm very sincere when I put it out there that grab a time with me and like let's meet and let's you know whether or not you are like Rachel I want to buy something from you like you know but just meet and like brainstorm or be like I don't know how to do my sound for my video what do I do or I don't know if I should create a teacher training how do I know if I'm ready and you know any of those kind I'm just really happy to meet people out there in the world who are you know kind of embarking on this path and if I can be of service or having chat helps and reach out so that's probably the easiest way to do it I love it I love it it's just I love the accessibility and affordability um that you bring to the community because that is one of like somebody we had this whole conversation and this is perhaps a little controversial but I've said it before guess I can say it again you know we were talking everybody was really up in arms especially during Co times about like appropriation of yoga and all these things and one my best friends is Indian and she I actually trained her first because she had never gotten a formal training but she's very you know spiritual and all the things and so she sort of vetted our initial training which wasn't very physically focused it was much more spiritually based and so she and I did a little talk one day about it and the things and I was like hey guys you know I'm like if this is your practice there's nothing appropriative about it right if this is your practice you know if I'm not going to go and say that I have a practice and I don't I'm not going to do something once if I don't do it you know so I will only teach what I practice and that's sort of like part of it right but I feel like you know sometimes when we make things so inaccessible you know whether it is money or whether it is time or whatever that is sort of of capitalizing on something that shouldn't be capitalized on like I and I'm saying it in a much softer way than I've said it before but it's like you know one of the biggest the biggest like insults I think to the community of yoga is creating offerings that are so wildly inaccessible you know to individuals that they can't get the information or they can't you know and and it's not only money I mean I've seen it in other ways I've seen it in you know like um you know top dogging domination of I mean we've seen it in the industry of like you know unethical practices and different you know um facilitations and things like that but just creating a place where it's like I'm teaching you this and I want you to go and I want you to do it and I want you to teach it handsfree like I I have no attachment to it like I just want to get you this information you know what I'm saying yeah do you mean like people holding on like um do you mean like people holding on to things like clutching information to them or branding it in a way that they can't be shared yeah yeah yeah yeah like this is my this is my style yeah yeah yeah yeah it gets it gets very like it's very much um you know it's like I I don't feel like that's the intention the intention Char talks about it it's like you have a teacher and your teacher is going to pass this along to you and then you're going to practice it and then the way you teach it is through your lens through your karmic lens you know and I think that free you know whether it is freely given financially or freely given in you know Spirit or in you know whatever and that support is so important um I really Vibe with that and uh I'm super excited I had the opportunity to chat with you yeah me too I just have to like because of what you just said I just want to illuminate Paul gley from Yin who did not trademark Yin or make it a thing but just like out there you know what I mean bless you Paul gley I just want public props to him yeah that because I think that's really like that it's that that kind of generosity of just like here's you know it's like emal emotional Freedom technique is another one that's like that the intention of the tapping the emotional Freedom technique use he did not ever want that to be like sold and so like if and this is for individuals that are listening right now don't pay for a training go online all of his information is open source you know and he did that to give people those resources I feel like what Gil's doing too with you know the accessibility and affordability of his content you know I've looked at your content you do the same thing I mean like it's accessible it's you know you being accessible to even meet with people and like sort of consult or brainstorm as you know in some parts of the IND industry is unheard of you know so I think that that is just so special and you I just want to commend you for you know giving your light in that way oh thank a rising tide lifts All Ships isn't that what they say well and right back at you Michelle like look at everything that you've created and are offering in a way that's super accessible to people like I know I know I said this before but I'll say it on camera now just like thank you for your work and for your sharing and for your generosity it's super appreciated it goes very noticed I know that appreciated it from afar and it's a pleasure to be able to say that in person to you absolutely absolutely well I think the biggest thing you know for again for us is creating accessibility and um and authentically sharing one of the things you know that I think that has been a big win for MVP has been you know getting into so many different markets you know I have been criticized for you know pricing things really low and things like that but we've given training and this content to people who otherwise would never have been able to afford it and you know I think that and the the stories of you know people's lives changing people's marriages changing people's relationships with themselves changing that's what motivates us to keep doing it um and I I just we keep surrounding oursel with other professionals like yourself and you know Gil and you know Leslie all the people and you know just continuing Lori is another big one to just share you know this knowledge because so many people don't know what their body can do and how to be embodied you know in their experience I used to say like we if you look at yourself energetically as physically physical intellectual emotional and spiritual I'm only one quarter physical I'm living all this time in my head like get in your body you know feel something and and figure out the the message between body and mind it's so transformative so thank you so much for being a part of that movement a well thanks Michelle thanks for having me on for the chat it's so nice to connect with you in person well tell us is there anything else that you've got coming up any new releases anything you w to share with share with the Comm let's see well uh yeah you can always find me online um the next eight months of my life are traing around with Gil on the nerve tour so you know you can keep track of us that way or find Gil in a city I highly recommend checking out his talk if I mean he you got to talk to him before but I mean it's really beautiful and transformative and I'm super enjoying one that I have the business that I can take on the road which has been super fun even teaching from my RV which is hilarious so if you're so inspired come and join me for an RV yoga class it's very fun um and if you're in a city where Gil is come and visit us because you know come say hi at the talk because we'll be there so yeah sound great well we we went to the nerve tour I cannot wait to do an actual class I've done kadavra lab uh out in Colorado twice this will be my third year I think next year I'm going to do one with Gil though I think that's like the the next step in the progression but so excited for y'all the nerve tour is amazing if you get a chance to check it out check it out if not check out uh Rachel's site and uh and we'll keep you posted for when that nerve tour gets loaded on Gil site as well which I I know forthcoming in the next 12 months or so so we'll keep you updated thank you Rachel thanks for being here thanks Michelle