a lot lots of different things really played with Suarez he never went in a treatment room played on with energies used to get kicked all over the pitch he'd have bruises all over the place but he'd be robust and available for every game not so for me Jamie Carragher very robust mentally strong tough get kick these off he'd kick people there's all different ways to be tough as a footballer and I think some of the ones that looked tough and bounce around the football pitch actin so for probably the ones that I know and I think we had this come from Scott Brown I've played against Scott Brown and he's a tough competitor a really good player and I think it's a bit out of order like sorta saying he's not fair if you like especially the career he's had so and it all comes down to him going in so funny on a young kid who plays for Hertz and I think that's the game and for me too much of it's going out so the game I think you should be competitive but as long as it's fair it feels that there was a time when you could name for almost every team a sort of an enforcer or someone who would set the tone for that team but we talk a lot now in the studio is about a lack of leaders don't we in the Premier League do you agree with Stephen that maybe exchange my out is opponent not in service TV I've said it many a time that not only if he was a 50/50 you knew he was coming sprinting in two wards and he was gonna go in fair and try and clatter in the ball he'd run past you you know to score a goal if you'd go and get the ball to bat for so in terms of stuff because he was so for the hard as a point I've ever had in the Premier League and I play it against Vieira keen you know some of the greats and he was he was by far and away the best but they would they were all soft you know and you play against elasti above him and and Lenin and and everyone sits off in different ways yeah yeah I do yeah people bring different things for example you could play against Frank Lampard and he beats off because he'd be relentless about a Joey Butler the one I caught you didn't have so there's different way when you played it was different ways of me and Soph he played at Wimbledon and you'd stand in the tunnel when you'd be outside the room would and dress room and Vinnie Jones is head-butting that the toilet door and and you know I've got Manny petit in front of me with Patrick Pierre and there Martine what is this and I said what's the beef in the heart okay I show him I kill him if I can oh you know when you go out on the place people like that you know win super game a football they weren't frightened of anything Gerry Gerry Tiger was tough you know my old teammate he clipped me around the head just before half-time you know he said see see it the dresser at that time yes I give it that I gave it the ball away and look at me and I went it I went into the chain room I'm irony all I thought was gonna have a gorge air and he did he said I told you jelly don't give the bought the South so basically it was a double whammy no no he got a clip of jelly tagging the manager without a hammer at me saying don't pass the bother me amazing