Golden Bachelor Episode 2 Recap

[Music] welcome to the world let me tell you what I've learned about it welcome back to aliens watching reality TV I'm Erica and I'm Janette my special golden co-host for this [Laughter] show thank you it feels appropriate or I mean we can we can let everyone know you're one year away about the golden Bachelor you're not quite golden yet preg golden I'm glittery my glittery co-host who was also um my mom and we're yeah we're talking about the golden Bachelor um episode two and episode two I can't wait to talk about it and I I took notes this time um so yeah let's just get cracking and and go through it it starts off with um the women having to figure out who's going to sleep where in bunk beds i' I felt like they they could come up with an alternative to bunk beds for like the golden people you know it just feels like a risk I think they were just planning they're planning that that many women would be there only for a night or two that's probably why they're just making everything exactly the way the bachelor is so just this is how the bachelor is oh as so that it's all bunk beds but it's not all bunk beds it actually has like two normal beds and two bunk beds and so people Rush In And they like grab beds and it's kind of like oh this is a little lord of the FES the bachor usually is quite Lord of the Flies I do think that the women on this show were a bit uncomfortable with that situation it's true and they they did say some some things like gosh maybe this is not appropriate for women so set in our ways I mostly was just you know concerned about like you know just you don't want anybody to fall and I I would just I would feel really weird making a 70-year-old getting a top bunk you know oh at the same time though all of those women were quite capable except for the women who had see you never know who KNE are replaced you can't tell from the outside whose knees are replaced so the one woman she had to say it I I can't climb that and the other woman says my bladder won't make it through the night they they had to like fess up and say I can't I I didn't like that they you know don't put people in that position and you know that whenever I travel I love going to hostels and I always take the top bunk so some people would be like yeah I'm a top bunk person and other people would not but that probably happens all the time on the regular Bachelor too that they kind of find I'm sure I'm sure I'm I'm sure certain b um they fight over everything I actually I'll I will tell you I appreciate it that they don't treat these women differently because they're older and say oh we better put all of the we better put guard rails on these lower bun because the old ladies might roll that's not the same at all as asking people to climb into top buns I'm not saying let's baby them I'm just saying you don't know who has yeah h the knee Replacements I personally wouldn't have made them climb into top bugs I think if all of them could not have climbed up they would have gone to the producers and said we need a bed change and they probably would changed something I bet I I don't know yeah but anyway it made you uncomfortable when you saw it and I thought oh this is surprising that I mean I expected there would be a few people in each room but I was a bit surprised to pile them all in and they're like oh we're not quite that I feel like no accommodations ladies I know you're setting your ways but like that's going to be part of the fun of this show um it's also it was a beautiful house with beautiful surroundings and I think they were just amazed to be there I me this is that was really great Bachelor Mansion like uh they always do it in the same place and so like oh this okay is just it happens exact it's like they're going through the Haunted Mansion on the ride everything's exactly the same you know so this is it this is the setup this is the format the yeah is and they do the same thing then with the first date because that happens pretty quickly that they talk about Gary first and they talk about what a kind-hearted good man he is and how rare that is it's really hard to find a kind-hearted good man and I like of course this is look at the numbers it's true it's it's true for all people who are looking but it's especially true the older you get and you start to see fewer people available and for a variety of reasons but back to that death question that we talked about I love it I love the openness about it honestly cuz I think about death all the time we could maybe go back in time and uh Explorer when you were three years old and you brought up death for the first time and I was shocked I didn't know that a preschooler would be thinking about death and I asked my friends are your kids talking about death and my friends were like no no so yes you thinking only the beginning of your journey of having a child that was never doing the same thing as your friend's children right yeah and eventually you got to the you know the relationship with me where you said stop looking in the books for answers mom because you're not going to find me in there and you were so right it turns out uh the reason why even has a name but we didn't know that for a long time right for a very long time so then they get to the first date and everybody's like oh my gosh this going to be a first date it's Teresa yeah were you surprised were you surprised it was Teresa I I don't know I guess I didn't know who it would be you know um I figured it probably wouldn't be who like I don't remember somebody else had just said I hope it's me or I think it's going to be so you know it's not going to be them um um but I guess it kind of made sense okay Teresa yeah it was her birthday um I think what I was surprised by is how Much Chemistry uh he and Teresa had I think that's one thing that surprised me um cuz she's um I don't know maybe this will sound harsh but she's not one of the most just like conventionally like hot ladies there you know um but and I don't know that just like does it doesn't matter as much on the golden Bachelor I like The Bachelor and I like that um and they yeah because so it their their date starts out um um and it's bad it it starts out scary and the thing that's really funny is I can identify with this um completely you lived in Los Angeles for very long time way more specific than that he's driving on the 405 and he's in he's come from Indiana I moved from Indiana to La the first time I ever drove in La was on the 405 because I drove to California with my dad he did all the driving for 4 days and then I dropped him off at LAX and then it was all on me and so drive right where he was driving up the 405 by myself yeah you know I'm just I learned I'm I I'm an Indiana kind of driver that was my introduction to driving there too and it's terrifying it's terrifying and also terrifying it's five Lanes across and everyone's Jing forver and his and his headlights were going out not working like I honestly they they recovered from that so well even just like emotionally psychologically like I would have been having such a bad time like oh and and Erica didn't you feel so much for Teresa because she had had uh Susan do her hair and her hair was beautiful and then she was in a convertible I was like who thought of this this is someone who doesn't like women who thought of we'll put them in a cool old convertible so they can drive around no no woman is going to love that choice he was he was clearly uncomfortable with it too they were in the same boat okay this is not yeah conver to again the kind of the read the room problem certainly the producers are having one too I wonder did they try to make them uncomfortable on the first date on purpose because that was just a strange choice of let's give them an old car with a no roof and see how they do and she just did her hair I you know for sure sometimes you know they're going to throw a wrench into things but like I don't I can't imagine that they like intentionally gave them a car that the headlights didn't work and stuff you know like that feels um a little over the fine even for reality TV um but I kind of wish they had a producers note right then that would say they're never that's that's the thing also like do that like producers are the hand of God you're never going to be able to like see you're supposed to not know they exist and just think all of this happens naturally um they did on the episode one they did put a little producers note in there did you notice at one point with talking with one of the women they had a producer ask a question and it says producer asked the question and I was like oh okay they I didn't know that they would do that so I thought oh then maybe they might say we absolutely made a mistake on the car you could see though after he pulled over and he exited then the headlights worked so they did stop and fix the headlights before he continued on they they were working after that after that ex no every maybe maybe that's too much on the technology I'm just you know me I like to get into the weeds of decisions and Logistics and that's my own brain um a producer's note would be a like it that's so rare I've never like seen it may or like you know like that's just not really a thing but every now and then yeah you'll hear a producer asking a question and then you'll get a subtitle with what the producer said and then usually if just like um it's a subject CU they want the subjects who are being interviewed to use the producer's question and their answer so that the question isn't included but some people you just can't get them to answer the way you need them to answer and also sometimes some magic happens and it's just like and it but it needs the producer's question in order to make sense and so it's worth it you know um but it would be it's very rare cuz like also then when someone's being interviewed like that's people know okay there might be someone behind the camera asking questions but um producers like orchestrating storylines and stuff like that's really they they don't want you to know about that you know uh what I I did love the choice of the first date and it's something that would make him feel comfortable but he also liked the idea of we could have a booth and we can talk the booth and then it did it went great and Teresa asked if they could share a milkshake and I knew it wasn't to be sexy it was that she didn't want to waste food and I thought oh they're definitely conneting in a way that yeah that makes sense to both of them but you know somebody maybe on a regular Bachelor would have said can we share and' be like let's have one straw or let's like go back and instead no or two straws whichever but her point was I don't want to order something that I'm not going to finish and I got it immediately I was like yeah exactly good job teres um I I don't like the the really cheesy cute moments like a lot of those that you wouldn't see them um with the younger people like they're really this group is willing to go way cheesier like just straight genuine from the heart which is why the show is great but it's like it's hard to overstate just how different that is from like the regular Bachelor and just like every dating show featuring Young people like it's it's it's it's incredibly different um and how about how about then um show aside would you say it's different from older people younger people going on a first date like what is this was this date different yeah yeah would you say that this date it's not only just the the cheesiness or whatever you know the auth authenticity is that because the show is different or because the people it's all about the people they this is like in some ways a f fting experiment of they're keeping the variables the same except for the participants and it's everything is different yeah because and honestly this show and these people make being old look so great that like I think it will actually make a lot of people feel better about getting older because there than us for sure even when they're crying they're happier than us like like clearly you figure out how to actually live you know when you don't even have much more time left to do it it just takes it clearly takes a long time to figure out how to like live and be a human being but man people seem to get there cuz the way they're just open and genuine and there like there's no facade and pretense and they don't need that they don't want it it's not like it wouldn't it's not even a an option a question and okay and then it changes the date changes and it's clear that Gary was in on it the uh the joury moment where suddenly the flash mob he knows it's going to happen they're having a very authentic emotional sharing with each other and you know he even before beforehand uh he was sharing his feelings and he tear up so beautifully I mean I wrote multiple times just how emotionally intelligent this man is and I hope I hope men and women of all generations and nationalities and backgrounds Etc watch it to see how clearly Gary is connected internally to his emotional experience it is a beautiful thing and I'm I'm loving that and so he they're having this authentic beautiful emotionally connected time they kiss each other again they share that Milkshake the song comes on and I can see he kind of has a shift of oh man yeah I forgot I agreed to this you can see him kind of like okay yeah we're surrounded by actors right now our experience is real but they put us in an emotional surrounding of a a Disneyland of like that in itself was also so genuine because their response to it and just how to go along with it yes young people wouldn't do that may maybe right when a FL flash moms came out you know but that's the thing too is just their pop culture like knowledge and all that is just so much more limited than ours that like for her a flash mob is still like an exciting fun thing and I actually get to be in one and like young people are like if I if another flash mob happens around me again I'm going to you know I was going to I won't even say uh you know I'm fists will fly like it's not something people want to do anymore um and but because also for a while I was like there was a flash mob during every wedding like coming down the aisle oh the Bridesmaids are you like and so in 2014 or whenever they were invented it was delightful but like it's way overstayed any this is clearly the first Flash Mod for either that's what makes things so different for them like they get to just enjoy things like children for the first time it's beautiful and Erica I got this this new feeling about the show when that happened because we talked about it in episode one that when we got to the the previews for the rest of the season at the end of episode one I I got kind of down and you did too looking towards the loss and the the tears and and all the the uncomfortable situations that are facing us as we continue through this heartbreak absolutely as we continue through the rest of the season but at this moment I did think this each one of these women if they get this moment with Gary and this the staff is trying to create these special events around them for them to enjoy they will leave this show experience not with a boyfriend because almost all of them will not but with these memories of really special times something that happened in their life that had never happened before and will never happen again it was unique and incredible like a wedding day like a their one big graduation day or homecoming or or honestly the moment where they got a promotion or their kid was born or the their kid got married or any of those things that were just an incredible day they get another really incredible day and I could feel Teresa and you could feel Gary he's going to get a bunch of them lucky him but also unlucky him he's gonna have to kick everybody off the show but he gets all these really special moments and Teresa got an incredible and she loved it and I felt fantastic about that yeah and whether she stays with him or not and it looked like in the preview she does not that she still gets this great memory that she can watch and revisit just like another day in her life you could see how like whereas um I think especially you know the the original Bachelor when people leave it tends to feel like a rejection and you know they're going to feel wor worse about themselves and their romantic prospects maybe so many of these women had zero hope for romance ever again and had stopped seeing themselves that way and so for a lot of them I bet they will leave this place feeling like a sexual person again feeling like a person who might have romance like it's actually the beginning of something like they can take away something that is going to make their life better every day if that's what they want and I think I mean a lot of them they have great attitudes and like and they want to get something positive out of this so I think that is what a lot of women will take from it yeah I think you're right about that and it was just a fun date to watch and if any one of us looks back on our life and we remember one really fun great day or date specifically it's such a good memory to replay so I was really that kind of was a turning point for me on the show where I'm more excited about future episodes now watching more great dates more fun things and I know there will it'll be like life there will be a lot of fun there'll be some heartbreak but it'll be a nice mix and maybe it will end with a couple in love and that's one thing I loved too is part of their great wonderful fun date was sharing about their spouses that they had lost and a little bit about how much they miss them and like that you can have that you don't have to ignore that stuff in order to be happy like that was part of it they want to bring that in with them because that's another thing that just like young people and a lot of people just they're so uncomfortable with anything real that like you're not not you're not supposed to talk about someone you love who has died in any like kind of context that's I don't know not the funeral like there's so few like opportunities to even just be real and these people they're taking their you know their spouses with them everywhere as they should and like yeah he wants to hear about how much she loved her husband and she wants to hear about how much he loved his wife and like cuz this is this is so wild I can't believe this exists but like something I've cuz I'm I for whatever reason read a lot of like Reddit advice posts and am I the posts and yeah I love those too and I am shocked by how often a spouse is jealous of a dead former spouse like where they are jealous of their their partner's First Love And even the they're unkind to the children that they had with that person or they want the children to see I want to you know she needs to see me as Mom and not like I that's up so many times and it's sick but it feels normal to young people that like that kind of jealousy would be normal and it's so abhorent to me so to me it was really wonderful and beautiful to see like that's not like an iota of a thought anywhere near these people in this show like they they hold their love with them and their grief with them and there's no shame in it there's like and they want to share it with each other and they love it in each other and like it's that's a very rare thing just in itself to like see publicly and I thought it was beautiful yeah thank you for sharing I also am on day 27 of my menstruals so I know that like I'm an easy crier today but your emotions are always welcome and you're so authentic in your communication and sharing and so I appreciate you so much and um just I mean everyone on the show cried so it's like come on I'm I just want to fit in it's your turn it's your turn um to reflect on those feelings too about later relationships and I do see this in my friends my age and older we've talked about this already that most my friends are in the golden years and what I see is this welcoming of past relationships both because of divorce or the the death of a spouse in which what we what we want to create for ourselves is this new relationship with the future ahead of us but we are pulling the past along with us and we don't want to bring an uncomfortable sad past with us we want to bring a beautiful Past full of love into our future so we do have conversations about even for spouses we divided up with because of divorce we separated from we do want to bring those good memories along with us still can be such a huge part of your life and who you are absolutely this the even if this person's not part of your life anymore they're part of your memories and they kind of created who you are today so the fact that you can love this new person so fully is due in part because you had these past loving relationships and there's just a sense of gratitude for those others who are still present in the now and the future because we remember them fondly together I know that my friends and I we try not to trash past relationships or or bring in really a lot of sadness from our past because it's so important how we frame our current state of our current emotional state and into the future and I think that's what we're seeing happen they're also giving each other a lot of space for sadness too like sadness they're allowed to bring as much sadness as they need to which is one thing I mean like we're not quite there yet but like it's a it's a big theme of this episode is that like people are not punished for feeling their feelings you know yeah yeah they're welcome and they approach their feelings the women each let's just get into it really because the next thing is the group date where a lot of these feelings are coming up for for people because they're even just pretending to be in love again it like it brings up feelings um and so yeah they go on a group date I love how he says for as a you know 71y old a group date with 12 women is not normal not even close and I'm like it's it's actually not normal for anyone it's not normal for a 30-year-old either you know group interviews are becoming more more common and that always throws people off too and you find out all the people you're up against for a job are sitting in the room with you and you're all supposed to talk at the same time that yeah it was so it was such an interesting idea the romance novel cover shoot I thought it was fun I mean it's a it's a fun idea and they went so silly with it you know which was cute but then also some of the photos ended up being like you know and not silly and they really just got to be what they wanted and um yeah I thought also like a group date is such a weird activity but this was yeah like they they made it actually like it didn't feel weird that there was a group there uh so Nancy really ends up being the focus of the the group date because um because at first it's going it isn't going well for her because um she tries on a wedding dress and it fills her with emotion and she just had no idea that she was going to react that way and then she said I haven't worn a wedding dress since my wedding day and it was like 37 years ago the best day of my life to to the love of my life marku pasted 12 years ago andan it's just it was so so much and and so but not you know not necessarily bad because it was making her think about the love of her life and the best day of her life um and then um I loved how I don't know just like how how everyone handled it how like wom women handle it with her and then how Jerry handled it and how she handled it in herself you know there wasn't like Shame about having this emotional reaction in any way there there was some I did see she was really uncomfortable that that happened to her on the show and she was trying to win and she was trying to impr from like of course anyone no not for others but she was disappointed that it happened to her but I love that it was so authentic that she thought oh I can do this and then found out it was more emotionally challenging than she thought I loved it when Gary just approached it and said hey why are we in a disconnect and he they had him think off camera about why it might be and he didn't guess it at all he he thought it was something about him that you know that maybe he' done something wrong but then he immediately again his emotional intelligence he thought of an example where he had a similar type of experience when he smelled cinnamon and he remembered his wife and he broke down in tears and I do think it helped viewers also watch that and go I remember when something like that happened to me he's so good at finding a way to connect to someone he's listening very carefully and then he has these these clear emotional connections something that I've watched in his reactions too you can see why the women are all falling for him and they're all going to continue doing that is as someone uh they say it in the show too he's they say this he's really beautiful he gives his full attention to you when he talks to you and he really does and you can see while he's listening his eyes will tear he is very sincere when he has a a heartfelt reaction to what someone has said and then he does process it so quickly and genuinely it is really ex just extraordinary to experience that along with him it it makes me want to also be better expressing myself emotionally as well as you can too Erica I did write down a few names of people who I thought were challenged by that such as Nancy Kathy lesie and probably April as well they have some emotional barriers in them to letting themselves be vulnerable in front of him and you could see it when he goes in for a hug with them or he reaches out to touch them they kind of have a little even just a little micro shift away instead of letting themselves be touched and enveloped that's one thing I thought was cool with Nancy because they take a picture before and after their talk and you can see the distance and then you can see they actually connect like it it's a visual representation of she lets that that wall down and it's and that's where I wanted to reflect here Erica I think that's such an important thing that's happening in this show it's not just that these women and this one man excuse me they haven't they haven't dated for a long time they haven't been touched by anyone it's so critical to see that he's now getting a lot more experience with it he's touching woman woman woman woman woman he's getting so much more comfortable with touching and being touched even kissing but each one of them Waits and waits and they're in the bunk beds they're on the couch they're sitting out by the pool or whatever but they wait and then when they get an opportunity to touch him and be touched it it's a recoiling moment for for them because it has been years since anyone has touched them and now it's also happen on camera with you know this from being in Hollywood there's at least 15 people very close to them watching carefully right now and some are holding things up and moving things around and they're trying to be silent and anyway these women are having this moment where they're being touched for the first time in years and it's so shocking and jarring to them and I could see it in some of those examples that I mentioned of women who are having it happen to them you can see for example Kathy she's so much wants to connect with him but she has a lot of barriers up she has humor that she uses as a wall and she is funny and a seric and I just feel like cath's got incredibly intelligent producer's Choice like she because she has the most emotional walls I do think he keeping her he's interested like and so they have to they have to keep some villains I just don't I don't know that he actually likes villains you know so like I I wonder I think he does find her intriguing but I know he's not going to end up selecting her I just wonder if like um there are C you know because so they can have the story lines they need throughout the season like he's encouraged to keep certain women you know like I I think that must be and I do think back back to your earlier point you said that you think that you're hoping that these women do have a um the promise of a future with romance love touch affection and I think that Kathy is going to get so much attention after the show you know now that the show is airing there will be a lot of guys who will watch it and go she's funny she's on fire she would always be somebody unique every morning and oh lots of for example oh and I don't think she's a I think she's really smart and confident I didn't find her at all like you're if I were going to pick a friend it's Kathy you're just putting too much you're reading too much into the word you're I think you're forgetting how I use it remember I use it all the time like she yeah she is a like yeah yeah okay it doesn't mean she's bad even saying she's a villain doesn't mean she's bad cuz also this is reality TV like you don't want everyone to be like you not everyone can be Bambi that's going to be boring you know like you need some characters you do and she is a character there's nobody else like her she's a character and I think he probably won't end up selecting her but I do think he's enjoying being around her my main point about her though in this in this moment was you can see her emotional barriers and how difficult it is for her to touch and be touched and I look forward to she throws herself out into the dating world and was like okay I finally have experienced it it's been a while but I liked it and I Revel in it I want more of that I hope that more women do see these women having kind of like this ah this feels awkward and to yeah I could lean into this and have it be part of my life again I hope so yeah I mean I I definitely I I am pretty weird about being touched and especially if it's been a while so like I get it and I can get more comfortable with at least a certain amount of it you know it just it's it's different it's in your future too maybe you can see that um is it Ellen yeah Ellen gets the framed photo and she says I feel so special and she says it with such sincerity and I haven't felt this special for a very long time it's so incredible to see someone have that experience and again it's like Teresa has this great date and Ellen gets this great special feeling and I do hope for each of them that they do leave with okay I stepped into my new world and it's not going to be TV and it probably won't be with Gary but it is a new world of I get to have special feelings and be touched and have fun yeah um so a aunt um Gary's birthday party he's yeah having such a good time he's so he's so engaged with everyone he's so happy it's all so pure and genuine he's so connected I I was like it reminds me of something and then it hit me he reminds me of somebody who is rolling at a rave like I've never seen anyone do like act like that unless they were on Molly at a rave and like he's just on being 72 like he's Lov it it was cool yeah all that attention from all those amazing women he really can appreciate like Gary's birthday and like he he just he appreciates things and so he is and like his ability to cuz that that's the thing too like one reason people do drugs sometimes you know especially something like Molly is because it lets you just connect to and appreciate things without any of your walls without feeling weird about any of it and he just doesn't feel weird weird about any of it so he gets to like live life on Molly because that's just his brain and it's so cool to see that like that's possible that there's a there's a person like that and maybe I'm sure he's you know become more like that over time like that's an option for what I what I also thought too what I thought was as we were looking at Gary's birthday is everyone should watch this scene before their own birthday party or better before their own Wedding watch and see what it's like to be celebrated by people around you and you just lean into it and let them love you that's what Gary does he just says just let me be special for a day without feeling like I have to take care of everyone or is everybody okay are the women fighting with each other is the you know is this bad or is this okay no Gary just throws himself into I'm going to relax Laugh Love be loved and that's the way I think everyone's wedding should be and a lot of people go into their weddings thinking it will be that way and then they have this experience of oh I can see people are uncomfortable and you know you I just told you about I went to a wedding last year and the Grooms mother's family sat at a table together and they never got up once they just talked to each other other and they looked miserable through the whole thing and fortunately the C the married couple the groom and his his new wife they just ped and they didn't care they didn't care that there was this table right by the dance floor that looked miserable I think every couple should be like that just be like Gary be like this couple go and have a blast and don't let yourself Stress For a Moment about is everybody okay especially if you're the focus of the party you should just let yourself relax into it I thought he did beautifully with that except that love and attention and focus too that it's you're you're allowed to be the focus of a day you know like yes and for your birthday always just let people shower you with attention and don't have any expectation on yourself or or even disappointment if people don't react the way you thought they should or just no it's it's supposed to be about fun fun um hey so then we get to the Rose ceremony is it okay to go I was say I think we need to and he's dreading it I was dreading it oh and then he calls the names the way he's supposed to one at a time and they do the little cutaways and then they they get to the end I do think it's kind of nice that they don't name all the women or they kind of show them a little bit but not too much and there was a woman there that I hadn't seen on the show at all but there she was was and they did let the camera focus on her I was like how come we never saw her before but anyway yeah she was boring I loved that I guess I guess she didn't say very much or do very much uh but I liked how they reflected on everyone's connection has grown by now they can feel their connections to each other to him to themselves and kind of the close out when jeie leaves she says there's not nice guys out there and there's hope and I thought that's a beautiful way I mean when that probably the producers are like oh thankfully Genie said just the right thing at the end of this episode but it was something that I do hope people who watch it will focus on there's nice people out there and there's hope and back to episode one we kind of concluded with you've got to get out there you've got to make yourself walk up to people you have to put yourself in uncomfortable situations you got to try and now to also relax into and there are nice people out there and there's hope those are great messages for those first two episodes yeah I I thought it was really beautiful both his his goodbye with jeie and Natasha because he's so sad to say goodbye to them and I was sad to see them go but there's they all get it they know that this means like nobody's thinking ah Maybe he actually didn't like me you know like no they know what we just had was real and that doesn't mean we're meant to be romantic Partners but like gosh we've enjoyed cuz like when he hugs Natasha and he's like gosh I love you you know cuz you can tell they have a bond but they both know like it's just not a romantic Bond so that's it's not going to go further that way but yeah he's so he is he's genuinely sad to see them go and um but they are leaving with joy you know and it's not and you know another take another takeaway that I hope happens from this show is men who watch it if any do watch The Bachelor okay good good hey men out there who are watching the golden Bachelor just know that you can go make friends and you know they can be with men or women and you don't have to make out or anything you can just have friends there's so many men over age 60 who think that maybe they think romance is over but more than that they think friendship is over going out to make friends is too hard it's rare how do I make friends if I don't have a job anymore how do I make friends if I can't play pickle ball you know how am I going to make friends and the point is just there's a bunch of brilliant fun energ itic interesting humans out there that are also over age 60 and you can go make friends with them so it's not just about walking up to people to try to spark a romantic connection but also just to make a friend he you can just tell like he really he honors his connections that ended up being more platonic because they're still important to him you know they're just they're not the focus of this show but like I bet he and Natasha are GNA stay in touch you know like you could feel that Y and um I hope so and I mean as somebody who's in a platonic partnership myself like I obviously have a lot of value for platonic relationships and so um I don't know I just I love to see the way that this is they're connecting as people and that's what matters instead of connecting as roles or as as like societal norms it's like the rules don't matter expectations of others who are we to each other and then that determines everything else and and human to human it's so beautiful it's just all done with kindness and like mutual respect and appreciation and um and also self-confidence like people are walking away feeling loved not feeling rejected and um right and I'm so glad to see yeah I'm glad to see that cuz it would really break my heart I don't know that I could watch it if all these women are leaving feeling like well now I'm never going to I don't think I could do it you know but that's I even me thinking that I'm clearly underestimating old people because they have done some emotional work they're not leaving that way like they're they're leaving confident maybe we can preview let's preview a topic for episode three that maybe we talk about my dating experience a little bit in my 50s I I think it would be helpful to look at some of these topics bronze boyfriend he's not he's not close to golden thank you but I got him through Tinder and the dating experience so it would be fun to talk through that including the hesitation that some people have about dating because they think it's going to be all of this heartbreak and awkwardness and it actually fun and gratitude no I love it so that I think that was a good point that you made at the end of uh episode two I look forward to talking about episode three the previews made it look more appealing than the previews after they lightened up on I'm excited to talk maybe they got a reaction people like actually we don't want to watch them suffer and they're like oh okay um yeah thank you so thank you so much for inviting me into an episode two convers thank you Mom I'm I'm very happy to be doing this with you I think it's really fun and valuable too um thanks to everybody for listening and we will be back next week recapping episode 3 all right I love you I love you to Mom okay bye bye aliens watching reality TV is hosted by Era hawald and Josh sharer it's produced and edited by Erica hawald that's me and our theme song is just World by Erica Hy World which is also me available for streaming on iTunes and Spotify for $5 a month you can subscribe to our patreon and get an extra full length episode of the podcast every week right 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