[Music] um just to go on your dogs it come up to come up tonight in the chat Bond had had such a great year and or has has has had such a great year and it felt like brown low was in reaching distance then he's jumped out of the gates and fallen off with a suspension but now it's kind of tipping towards Patrick Crips the question was is would he be the greatest player to ever not win one I mean I still hope he does but is there anyone else I mean we were trying to talk about it before I can't think of anyone there's there's been a few good players that have never won one uh I think Scotty I played yeah buddy is one Scotty West who I played with at the Western Bulldogs he got close a few times and was the favorite sort of leading in on two or three nights when I was actually at the brown low and I think he ended up getting pipped a couple times he ended up coming second or third he actually won seven best in Ferris at the dog so wow and got close a few times but never actually uh never actually got there but um there there's been a few good players and there's been a couple actually that have actually won it and uh got that taken off him because of suspension as well I think Chris Grant is uh he's won Cory MC I reckon he got did he win the brown L he got suspended and unfortunately didn't get to take it home oh that's stiff that's definitely someone else might have won it when Robert Harvey won one and they got suspended I think I don't know if that was mckernon or um yeah anyway so he won too anyway he won it the next year he won 90 I think 97 yeah back is not a bad what's your uh what's your feeling about the uh the dogs I mean you played finals there twice I think and they haven't really had a a huge run um over sort of the past past couple years but they they obviously have the the 2020 Grand Final where they almost nicked it against Melbourne it was a weird year what what do you sort of see where they're going now I mean they've got a good list but it just seems like they're up and down at times yeah they're they're good they they're good as As can match it with the best in the competition I reckon and like dong have been you know in pretty good form they had a little low sort of mid year and then they've really picked up over the last few weeks and to go down there in horrible conditions in a pit of a deck and beat Jal down there when they're in pretty good form just goes to show that they can beat anyone anywhere when they're at their best and Rory L going back into defense has been a revelation for them with Liam Jones being injured as well it's just helped them out so much so I I think that their defense has been their deficiency over the last couple of years but with Rory L going back there and you know hopefully you know Liam Jones coming back finals time H anything can happen like the dogs are the dogs best is just so good and and their list is good and their forward lines obviously they' got some power guys down there and their Midfield is Elite with bondt and Liber and and a few other guys who can roll through there so it's just about getting them into the eight like they get into the eight you don't want to play them round one it's similar to Hawthorne likey four there'll be a few nervous teams like if they finish eight he wouldn't probably want to finish Fifth and play the Hawks at the MCG and elimination they'll probably roll you [Music] yeah imagine what you could be buying instead for free and confidential support call the number on the screen or visit the website but