WHO WON? / US Presidential Debate 2024: Kamala Harris Vs Donald Trump.
Published: Sep 12, 2024
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so she just started by saying she's going to do this she's going to do that she's going to do all these wonderful things why hasn't she done it she's been there for three and 1/2 years they've had three and 1/2 years to fix the Border they've had three and 1/2 years to create jobs and all the things we talked about why hasn't she done it she should leave right now go down to that beautiful white house go to the capital get everyone together and do the things you want to do but you haven't done it and you won't do it because you believe in things that the American people don't believe in you believe in things like we're not going to Frack we're not going to take fossil fuel we're not going to do things that are going to make this country strong whether you like it or not Germany tried that and within one year they were back to building normal energy plants we're not ready for it we can't sacrifice our country for the sake of bad Vision but I just ask one simple question what why didn't she do it we're a failing Nation We're a nation that's in serious decline we're being laughed at all over the world all over the world they're left I know the leaders very well they're coming to see me they call me we're laughed at all over the world they don't understand what happened to us as a nation we're not a leader we don't have any idea what's going on we have wars going on in the Middle East we have wars going on with Russia and Ukraine we're going to end up in in a third world war and it'll be a war like no other because of nuclear weapons the power of Weaponry I rebuilt our entire military she gave a lot of it away to the Taliban she gave it to Afghanistan what these people have done to our country and maybe toughest of all is allowing millions of people to come into our country many of them are criminals and they're destroying our country the worst president the worst vice president in the history we all watched the US election yesterday and U I hope we can get at least someone who disagrees with us I think most of us me and you in short are leaning towards Trum I don't know maybe you've changed recently but I think we are so um if we could get someone who's U maybe anti Trump or Pro Cala or a combination of both them come on here but um not withstanding we're going to continue our show and then share our thoughts uh maybe I'll just start with your general impression of the debate yesterday uh general impression it was disappointing I was expecting a whole different uh category of people for Trump I was expecting a lot more Trump of uh 8 80 years ago I I think for some reason Trump has gradually transformed to a politician and because he's trying to play politics he has uh lost um the the the the the the the style that that I appreciate of him being direct you know being confrontational um you know putting out his point no matter how controversial it might it might be I was disappointed when I didn't see that this the trone we got yesterday was a well refined Trump who has been uh I don't know if I should say trained or remodeled to to fit a certain class of politicians that we we have nowadays for Kamala Harris I was expecting a worse Kamala Harris the one we got was one that I had never envisioned that she a level that I never envisioned she could attain right um she was very articulate which is is not something that I see very often of her um she did not giggle as much maybe even at all right so it was a completely new person that that I got on stage so yeah I would say uh to me it was not the kind of of of of debate that I was looking for when when when I you know I plan watching so yes disappointing for me first impression it was disappointing and and for for for people who are asking why we talking about this I think us election has severe implications on Canadian um economy it's not just Canadian thing it's the World At Large right because America for some reason has put has decided to be the world's police where they are involved in every little thing that's happening all over the world so what goes on in the US who becomes the president of the United States affects everyone people to themselves they would agree that it touches on every person no matter where you are China Russia Ukraine Africa it venezuel it doesn't matter you are going to be impacted by them and by their policies right so yes yeah so um far implications um it's not that we're here to be bling implications that has re impact on people's lives um I share a lot of your sentiments very disappointed particular because I'm a trump supporter I've been for a long time um disappointed at his performance you know I thought this would have been an easy win for him supposed to be because he has an upper hand if you want to look facts for facts you know you have two administrations you compare um on almost every metric you know Trump has done well done well by the than the Biden harest Administration so he had a lot of upper hand but um he it wasn't missed opportunity for him to be able to just bury Kamala Harris but he did not take his chance um um there was a lot of distraction and he fell for it kind of threw him off the off the tracks a few times when he was supposed to State clearly ask him about immigration I think she asked a question and then another time she directed to people leaving his rally you know and then he followed that rabbit I was talking about how hisan that's not the main point just show that you are better than her on the facts you know and particularly immigration particularly on inflation particular on the economy you you better than her in everything like and and then and then she cannot just claim that she's the new savior on the Block she has been part of the administration for the last three and a half years and anything that she was supposed to have changed was supposed to be done three and a half years ago but for some reason he only said that conclusion I think that was what we would have started with you know like you have been vice president for the last three and a half years why didn't you do the things that you're promising to do now you know um I I I thought she did better than expected like you said most people didn't expect Kam haris to be able to perform that well she did well there wasn't a lot of substance in what she said no but no she was able to just use nice words just use pleasantries just up people with ideas without really getting into the Practical of how she's going to do so in in in that sense she won you know because most people thought Trump had the upper hand but um I think she came she was that she c a lot of good words remember she's a prosecutor a lot of good what really saying anything but I'm just keep the time rolling so so so she and I I was I was I was disappointed because I was like this was an opportunity for you to like just end her career once and for all and to see the the glaring difference I'm not sure what Trump was worried about I I I know that when he debated Biden he wasn't exactly the Trump that we we we knew from before so I feel like he has been coached to to play to be nice to play safe I don't know if it's because he he was debating with a woman and if that was something that he was constantly going back into his head because there were opportunities where Trump could have used more flowery language to to to to to stay a point there were cases where I believe that he could have challenged Kamala Harris forcefully right but I feel like they whole idea that she was debating a woman um again that is how I feel um because people expected him to to to um to execute the debate in the normal Trump like way where he doesn't care if you're a woman or man he hits at you when he gets the opportunity he did not use that even when they talked about Kamala Harris being BL I don't I don't see any reason why Trump couldn't say yes you've claimed for the past you you you've never you've never you've never demonstrated or you were black when you were prosecutor you you build your careers on the backs of of of black men going to jail for for for for for for for insignificant crimes I don't I don't I don't know why Trump couldn't say that he he completely missed it he missed it completely he me he he just said I don't care if he a black no but Kamala haris campaign is based on the fact that she is a black woman woman so why would you loose why would you miss the opportunity to hit back on that and say but you've never you've really never integ you know Associated or accepted that you were black until recently there was no reason why he could couldn't say that right but again I think it's the r thing he is trying to not alienate black black voters because I know that the only reason why he wouldn't stay that to that extent was because he's worried about his black votes which he seems to have built a following in the black community right so again he's trying to protect he's definitely trying to protect that um and and then of course he needs votes from women so he is probably a little bit careful how what words she uses and how she deals when she's dealing with women she she's had a lot he's had a lot of um um lash back uh push back in terms of how he has maybe treated women or M treated women in that sense I feel like things because again when you are too self-aware because I think it's a matter of being self-aware he's too he he's been too self-aware of his style and he's heard all these negative comments about about his approach to to to to to having conversations having debates that he was spending a lot of time in his head trying to figure out the right words at the right time when you when you're taking too much time to figure out what to say most of the time you miss an opportunity to say something smart or sharp right or you just you know miss an opportunity to to you know to hit back and I think that is definit where Trump I think for me that is that is his downfall that was where his downfall yeah think part of itory is coaching and they they've coach him out of his character exactly he's usually very blunt and doesn't care what you what you say I mean that's how he won the elections in 2016 yes you know he was blunt and would say controversial things and didn't care I'm going to build the wall uh you know things that came out like grab her by there you know what they they ask to explain who doesn't speak like that so so I I think because he lost the last election he's brought in people who have coached him out of his usual self out of his character so that has changed a lot and then people follow him because of those very reasons I for one you know it's kind of made us a little bit look warm you know I mean there was there were you know some instances of where you could see that coming out you know you know I'm talking stop you know I'm talking listen that sounds familiar you know how vice president um former vice president Pence when they doing that so there were little instances of that but it was very interrupted it was here and there very far in between he wasn't he didn't really come out trumpy no but um um on the whole I think CA won in terms of presentation in terms of saying much without saying anything you know in terms of der Trump of his um of his particular characteristics of being able to say controversial things and double down even when asked you know uh but yeah and then um maybe I'll ask you again what what did you think of the moderators I I I think they were particular about fact cheing Trump each time he said something they would you find a way to say oh that is not correct or that needs a little bit of context or that but again not a whole lot of that when when Kamar Harry pooke and it's not like he didn't say facts that were either incorrect or where you know she needed a little bit of context but they were a lot they were particularly focused on on on Trump I mean it's it's it's it's ABC what do you expect what do you a pro it's a pro Democrat it's a pro uh Kamala haris a network these are people who have built who in the past in the past six seven months had condemned Kamala Harris and said she was a good for nothing vice president she was probably the worst vice president in the history of the United States these are because again they were propping they were propping Biden so they had to say that now Biden is out and all of a sudden Kamar Kamala Harris is presidential she is the smartest she is this and she's that these are the channels who you know so I I really wasn't surprised by how uh they decided to conduct the debate um I think there was a lot of of of factchecking uh uh Trump in terms of in terms of um speaking time and I believe that they were kind of fair in giving every person uh opportunity to speak uh to to to to make a counter statement and then to do a followup if if necessary there were a lot more um there were a a lot more uh considerate with Trump because there's certain times where I knew they gave Trump about where he went maybe went slightly above his time or when he had had to follow up on a comment even though he wasn't supposed to be speaking right so in that yes I I say they were fair in that sense but in terms of fact checking I think they paid a lot of attention trying to debunk the things that Trump said oh no you said this this this but this person said remember when he said um immigrants are eating eating the the cats and the dogs and the pets in Spring is it Springfield is Springfield and this guy journalist was very particular about debunking that I mean he he he tried even two or three times to debunk that right it tells you how vigorous how much time they spend trying to to paint Trump as a liar and then each time they did that Kamala Harris of course said I told you he is you know so again giving the under candidate some sort of ammunition against Trump which I would say wasn't really called for if you debunk it once let it go don't don't don't you know give give the other candidate the opportunity to to hit back at Trump in that manner so I would say there was a lot of there was some sort of bias there but in terms of managing time I would say yeah they they did their best in terms of the questions itself I mean I I would um um it came across as obvious questions obvious there was no the questions were light lightweight like Trump would say it's lightweight right it was just almost almost anybody would would ask something there was no it didn't call for any depth or didn't give there was no time when I I saw a candidate think even for two seconds before presenting because it was obvious answer this were like questions were anticipated in advance I know they they indicated that oh we have not shared these questions with the candidates but I mean you pick questions that even my son would probably want to ask so again I don't know that the questions were strong enough to challenge it wasn't challenging to the candidates none of them took a second each time the question came they already had something to say which which for me what it tells me that the questions were not not you know were not strong enough um for for a debate like this yeah I think most people agree that the debate was almost like one versus three yeah you know Trump against Cala and moderators because they were clearly like you said clearly fact checking Trump and lot of things that Kamala said that just went out of FL she started by St Chum is the author of the project 2025 which is not true they could have they could have definitely started by fact cheing that he not not even aware know and she kept saying it because of the yeah they didn't do anything also the fact that they said oh Trump said they were the very fine people on both sides you know that has been debunk like so many times but this find a way to bring it Russia G Russ you know I didn't hear them saying Oh but but you know M's report clearly made made very clear that so yeah um I think Trump it's fair with Trump to say you know the debate was biased you know he felt like so they the moderators were against him you know the whole there were really simple questions and and these are things Trump has said in his rally like he's had how many rallies again in so many different you expect him to be able to be suin you know straight to the point heit it when it's hot and then you know make some funny jokes like he usually does few controversial stuff but he did not do any of those he was trying to be too serious man they've told him that he needed to appear in a certain way he needed to take this seriously Trump is not he's not the kind of guy who is serious over we know him for who he is right so when you see this Trump and compare him to the Trump that you see in rallies a couple of years back is not the same person not the same TR it's not the same this Trump has been contained to the extent where he's he's he he's finding it difficult to express himself because he had he they want him to Express himself in a specific certain way which is not is not his and probably War him that don't take any personal jobs against your opponent you know respectful why don't say anything but that's how Trump became that's who Trump that's how exactly he became president because he was he was able to he was willing to do that yeah and he was the only one who that could say those things and get away with it because he had a way of saying them but somehow they have managed to coach him out of character they have managed to take away what the attributes that made him very trumpy I think I think they I think they did a service I'm not sure who is they coach he he was leaving he was sitting in his head figuring out what to say because he had to judge whether it was appropriate or not he had to he had to think about what he was saying he it's completely out of place for Trump to do that and and for anyone I mean people know them you know yourself once you try to be who you're not it it it takes a whole lot out of you to do that again that's that's that's that is that is what I think but again there there's one thing about everybody kept saying oh he's a liar he's a li every politician lies show me a politician who doesn't either lie or who doesn't exaggerate or who doesn't minimize show me one politici who does you cannot survive in politics if you're not able to twist the truth a little bit or twist the lie a little if you're not able to play that game you cannot be a good politician Obama lied multiple times Joe Biden lied all through all through his presidency Kamal Harris Li is lying even lied even through the whole again everyone seem to be focused on the things that Trump the lies that again lies I'm using the word Loosely right the the the the the facts that he presented everybody was very interested in the things that he said because they wanted to go out there and say he was a liar yeah um let's talk about Kamal Harris a little bit she has changed her position on almost every yes she before she used to support um gun bans and even buy b guns from citizens now she say she doesn't want to do that and she was claiming even yesterday that she own gun um before she used to say she's going to ban fracking because it has severe effects on climate change now she's in favor of of of fracking and then she claims that her values have not changed you know before um she she what was the other thing that she's changed her position on um there's fracking there's um that before she she lied about Biden's cognition she always said Biden is very cognitively Inta suddenly oh you know he has to give away and almost like a c that it took him out you know so you're muted you're muted did you notice that Trump did not take advantage of that he said little or nothing right about how on Democratic got where she was she she didn't even say that this was woman who has not won a single Vote or a single election in the course of getting to where where she was she yeah that didn't come up did not come up because I Trump I would I would talk about how you got to this place I would even question why I'm having the debate with you and not somebody else rightly I I you know she I mean when she first ran for for for for for the position of President a couple how many years ago was it a 2019 2019 she did not win a single vote nor a single I think one of the unpopular soop bring up speak speak of unpopularity and then suddenly the next year the the media is propping you up as the best thing seeing slice bread the best you know like this this is someone that was you know despised by the media they didn't like her she not get any followers they thought she was awful she she had to do that her funny laugh all the time and props to her coach the person who told her not to laugh that funny way they did very good because that used to throw people off kind of way but she was successfully coach not to come out as obnoxious condescending without her funny laugh without saying anything so um she really wasn't she really wasn't that popular and then suddenly the media is telling us she's the savior of the world and not just the United States I think that's very disappoint I mean you just need to look beyond your notes and you see the propaganda like how much the media can change to support um a candidate that was unpopular just four years ago you know he almost tells you that the media is part of the democratic part the publicity Wing you know they are to promote their ideas promote whatever candidate look at Obama Obama who did not even think of camon Harris you know he suddenly she's the best thing Michelle Obama and Hillary Clinton and Oprah and like they are just throwing all their support behind this lady who was one of the first to quit the presidential election the last time she ran you know and then Trump did not even hmer the fact that she was only vice president because she was a black woman I mean Biden said that clearly you know talk about you know you hire someone because you're comp because of clearly said that that was something that was supposed to capitalize on but just did not H that like did not point out incompetence because she was H because she was not qualified I'm surprised I heard I heard that toy Gaba um had a session with Trump TR what did they talk about because she did a great job the last time yeah Trump all Trump need was that Playbook tell me what you said I want to repeat word for word I don't care that is all so what I'm like what did she tell you what conversations did you have because we were told that they had a session together she she at least advisor for the came in as an advisor what what did she say because Trump did not do any of that any did not mention anything about her record as a prosecutor did not mention anything about about nothing right which is odd even talking about and calling media that Wasing up as brother that she was never letting lot of people in that they hurting a lot of Americans Trump did not I mean that's you're clearly uh that that's clearly one of your main points that's something that you're supposed to hammer on you just let it fly like that very disappointed you know and you could tell Cala she for me she started a little bit nervous but she kind of grew into the I think but because she realized that she could easily throw off Trump you know particularly after after the point she said about the immigrants eating dogs and go you know Trump I didn't think Trump came back from that I said as long as he took that bait and made that that that statement a all of which you know there's certain ideas really has not been proven after that he not get back on the train you know he could have he could have just you know come back to Crime because at the end of the day everybody understand crime everybody understands crime everybody understand crime right and even even if the rates are going down I mean there's still a significant portion of of of of of of crime happening in the US he could have he could have he could have stuck with that but he he he he he did not he did not look at she used to support defund the police now she's for the police Trump trump mentioned it but not as f as it didn't it didn't um it didn't kind that he was supposed to carry you know it just made it like a side comment me that's a huge topic like she was one of those do you remember the riot in 2020 J FL Riot the let City burnt I mean her running M was governor of Minneapolis of Minnesota sorry he let the city burn to ground and refus um um um security support from Trump you know let Minneapolis burn because of just FL and then all of them come oh we have to defund the police we have to take resources and send in maybe social workers and I mean those are things that you clearly are on the side of um Law and Order you have to hammer on those point you have been talking about this time and time over again you like you cannot be blabbing and it a side point I mean just that fact of Def the police Trump is supposed to capitalize and just run away with it but something just happened to him yesterday and he was able to be thrown off by side comments go down rabbit holes that not necessary deviate when on a tangent you know you just lose the substance when you you when suddenly they talk about um um border crossings illegal immigrants in in the country and then Kamal chose you up by saying oh I have to take care of the middle class my focus is take of the middle class and small businesses and people going to your rally and then you just take debate and think oh my rally is small than yours people go to my like that's not a point going back to immigration no I me I don't I don't mind I don't mind you clarifying but you don't need a minute to clarify that you need a few seconds to say well you know you can come to my rally as well and see it for yourself and then go back to what is important because sometimes you can't just let comments like that slide you I I I I see the need to to to um to to clarify that right but I don't I don't see why you take an take a minute to talk about it no you clarify it in two five five six seconds and you move on to what is important you know not not get sideline and derailed by some flimy comment about the rally um again it doesn't speak well of you when you you you seem to be triggered by by insignificant things like that and again and that again that is that is those are the comments that people make say Trump is the kind of person who would be triggered by other leaders by by just making little side comments here and there and that he will not be able to again he he he he did not take the time to say that I have been president before I have president before for four years and all the things that they saying I'm going to do I didn't do them when I was President so why would I do that why do you think I'm going to do them again why do you think I'm only going to do them now why didn't I do them he he he he did not he did not um uh he did not use the the the the the the uh the the court as AAP against political OPP was your better under my Administration or under the Biden that's all you have to do you have to tell them ask them that question you know and then people people look for like I used to make more money more prices I didn't hear anything about gas prices talk about God prices how much did you pay for gas when I was President how much are you paying for gas now talk about the housing situation how many of you were able to pay for a house how much did you pay for a house how are you able to pay for a house now can you really have make the American dream happen to you now those are the things that he was supposed to be talking about right not some yeah yeah yeah no it it was disappointing I was a lot more from Trump a lot more he did not fight I I didn't see him he there was no fight in what I see like that that debate was supposed to be set up to at least if you're trying to be the high point of where everybody will see the clear difference between who Trump is and who Cala is what his policies are and what her policies are or the lack thereof because she really doesn't have any policies it was only about two days on her platform before they put in policies there like she did not have any policies on her platform so they they were thinking through it they had time to capture it and you also have to think Kamal haris is the current vice president like she's in a very TI position like she like if you have to assume the success of the biding Administration you also have to assume the failures and you can't just associate just like we said the other day you cannot associate yourself with Biden on one one thing and then turn around and dissociate yourself with him you can't you're either there or not you're either part of the successes and assume the failures as well you can't just assume the successes and then turn around and say no he failed I wasn't I wasn't you were part of the team you were Vice President and you're you're going to be this Grand change this huge change that is going to come and makes everything suddenly better like you have been there you were the vice president you're the second person in command who has the most say in the administration you know so your voice has weight you know you cannot just come out and say oh you're new you're suddenly going to make things better everything's going to change under your Administration like you are Biden you know if you're going to say oh we help bring inflation then you also have to take um um account of the illegal immigrants of the crimes the inflation and everything like you you can't pick and choose you know but somehow she was able to manipulate Trump and kind of Escape because he wasn't challenged I don't think she was challenged enough she wasn't challenged Trum Trump trump let her pick and choose the successes and reject the failures and say no I am not Biden no you are Biden you work for him you you were second in command you were the vice president how can you claim that your your your the president's policies were not yours what did you say if they really were not your policies what did you say about it why did you stay vice president just like a while ago he Trump's vice president what was his name again this week V DJ v no no no previous the vice president my Pence after after everything and they January 6 my P started saying that he was not like he was trying to dissociate himself from Trump but how do you how do you do that that is why he didn't go anywhere it's like you and Trump are the same you can't turn around and and you know and you can't bite the finger that fed you and think he was going is not going to be fine right but again if they allow you do that yes you can which Trump allow Cala Harris do to say yes I was with Jo Biden and we worked and we did this and we did this or no those policies were his policies they were not mine I my values are different my this is different you gave her the opportunity to spin herself around and to to to to transform herself from from what she really is to a whole different thing right which which again to me it's the opportunity that Trump gave her to do all that Trump did not challenge her enough Trump was not forceful enough again maybe because she is a woman but Trump wasn't forceful his presentation no way um so logically you think the Democrats are feeling very good about the debate you know they are feeling very good yes they are did you watch CNN yesterday I watch CNN after the debate man no sometimes I go to watch just so that I could get I not so that they don't say you are in an echo chamber and you only hear the no sometimes I go to CN and I listen to them and then they tell I I see why I don't watch them very often they gave me good Reon you could see very clearly for more than an hour 30 minutes they had conversations about how terrible Trump did right you would listen to that and think that he did not say anything right didn't do anything right and then come see and praise Kamala Harris you would think that she was the the the the second coming of Jesus Christ and and I haven't watched CNN for a long time because you can clearly you can tell there's no it adds no value they are terrible they will make you feel sad and then if they want to change the subject and someone like they're gonna like you said make her feel like the second coming of Jesus Christ you know so I think the Democrats are really feeling good about themselves um post debate you know um but I think they still have a huge problem is you guys have to really articulate articulate Kam Harris policies because like even yesterday after the the the the the debate was done like what are her policies like there is a whole lot of what they would do but not how to do it how to do it there all middle class and for the corporate and reduce inflation like there's all these nice I know those are nice things to say but there's nothing as in how are you going to do it you know because if she has to put pen to paper a lot of things are almost going to sound like Trump you know suddenly now she favors the Border War but but Trump said Trump said that she's copied my policies but again did not say it um it wasn't it wasn't strong enough right for people who not but he said it that you are here you have copied my policies if you speak people will think I am speaking right he said that but it wasn't strong enough it wasn't forceful enough I don't think people got it you're saying exactly the same thing he has copied a lot of if you I mean when they speak if you didn't know who was talking you would think because now she favors strong she favors strong borders now she fav the police now right she fav fracking you know it's like it's like you you leave you you let her you let her just point yeah yeah it's just that we know who Trump is so we're really disappointed if was just a new person he would have done okay you know he he' have done well I mean performance for someone not for Trump yeah if you watch El perform the way Trump did we be perfect happy say they did a good job you know but we know how Trump so it's we we've been taking up this high for Trump and then we're brought down so low and Kamala was so low and then she just like it seems that she's gone to the moon and back because she just said a bunch of words without nearly articulating how she's going to achieve all those things and more importantly why you have not been able to achieve all those things when you've been there for the last 3.5 years so um yeah it was just awful as a trump supporter you know um but I think it it's after the debate that with a lot of clarification with a lot of push back a lot of people highlighting the things that he said that they not really carry weight after the fact is is now they have to certainly play defense you know he's already said this now we have to go and pick up you know he said that in the debate but this he would have said this more and then you expound on it if you're like you already see them doing media rounds to be able to right yeah reinforce the point to expiate to to to maybe throw more weight on it but that's something that you know if he had highlighted it all these media rounds that his um supporters are doing they wouldn't have been you know charged to do all of that because he was supposed to have need her yeah yeah I think he's just giving his people a little bit more work because they're out there trying to you know clarify what he said they're trying to reinforce what he said um he he could have he could have used the opportunity he had to really articulate what it is that he was trying to pass across right not focus on little things that had little no no value uh added no value to to to his uh to his presentation um I but I also I mean Trump trump is is is is really I think he needs to go out a lot more I know he's he's out there with rallies and but I think he he needs to do a lot more talking about when um when haris spoke about the people who had endorsed her and called d I'm surprised Trump didn't say I don't know did he say anything I didn't hear he said are people that have fired are people that have again that was not fire no these are war criminals yeah would I would I would consider D war criminal these are he was that was not people Invasion and stuff those like you you you war mongers war mongers and those you and you happy about it yeah right and and and also um Putin endorsed you C Harris and Trump just said it in a statement of passive again pu Putin did that was it was is nothing serious right but again if I were Trump I would pick I would large onto that and I would use it against you I don't care another thing which Trump mentioned in passing was his attemped assassination and then even even even Moors did not bring that up no which is strange they almost this guy almost died he almost died he was he's running for presidency and because they've said all these things about him he did not bring he he mentioned it in passing like you will not even notice that that was what he was talking about this was the opportunity you remember the last time weal we said he was going to find it was going to be opportunities where he was going to use that this was an opportunity did not last time but yeah he did not it I would accuse I would accuse you and your people for putting me in a situation where people are trying to kill me I don't care I mean context might be needed in that in that statement but I will put it out there and let the world see you know he did not he did not he didn't use it he did not use it again why I I I don't know I can't I can't tell he just did not use that he I mean Trump trump a lot a lot of things to say he had a lot of of of angles he could have come from I watch I watch a lot of polls and too bad we can't show the screen um um in general for most independent um voters I think Trump and really those are the people that will determine the votes right those people that can sway from one way to another um and I don't know if the debate did anything to move people from One Direction to the other maybe maybe motivated Cala Cala Harris or the democra a little bit but I don't think really convince anybody to move from one side to the other you know this is I don't think this this was not a debate that would cause anyone to reconsider their positions I think those who are pro Trump and Trump supporters though disappointed were not moved by by Kamala Harris in any way um um if you were a Democrat and your pro Kamal har supporter Trump did not do enough to get you to think about your position and and what what Kamala Harris is really about in terms of the independence those who are not sure where and how and what to vote again this was not the debate this was not the debate that would cause you to pick one prefer one candidate over the other it it was not a debate that you would come out of and say yes I clearly understand what this person is is trying to offer or clearly I could get what where he is trying to take us to it wasn't clear Trump wasn't able to articulate clearly what he wanted to do for the American people as well as Kamala Harris he she did not articulate how and how how she was going to help the people of the you know so again Independence like again that's why they they they they were almost they almost tied on the PO like uh post post post debate po right it's like one point kamalar is like one point over Trump something depends on the the PO that you look at right but again almost almost time almost yeah tells you that there was no I don't think anybody was swayed uh from one end to the other or you know Independence I don't think anybody kind of move positions I think they just still waiting for for more for more yeah cuz like again not to be label to point but you just have to tell people to compare two administrations how is your life under my Administration and how is your life under Biden you know just compare it to and then let people decide fromel like if anybody really says their life has gotten better the last four yearsing inflation is worse crime is worse um immigration immigrant it's was police uh living on on in droves you know they're not able to recruit people because there's no motivation there's no support for them and stuff like that so it it was really sad as a trump supp I was really disappoint it's bad even when Kamala haris talked about some of the programs that she the the question Trump should have been asking was why haven't you put this in place you've been here for three and a half years why are you only thinking about this now no and and even call even even just hold her accountable to some of the promises that they made when they ran for office last four years ago or three and a half years ago and ask her what of those he talk he talked a little bit about um the student Deb cancellation program that they had promised to he mentioned it but again still just in pass not pay atten if you really were not aware of that campaign promise and what that was all about you probably would not even know what he was saying because again that that is a promise that she that they made that they fail to to to to to fulfill right is things like that just to you know this is a these are people who would make promises that they will never keep again this is you know it doesn't have to be crafted in no just simple statements to vot anything to anybody to V they can go know the story of the tto and the Elephant was it t yeah the tto to come and lie to the elephant and then go to the Sea and then lie to the will and then put them through to polish other you know that story that's what Democrats are they will tell you anything you want to hear for to get your vote that's it they come to Black wats and pretend that they are black and say all the black did you see how haris accent change when she sounded like so black than the people she go toia she's G to sound more Indian when she goes white it's a chameleon she's never anywhere she's mostly white but when when she needs to be Indian yes she probably will be when she needs to be Jamaican or black well she is but she she's white mostly Trump trump did not Trump was so he did not even no he didn't talk about that I would say white and you only black when you have to or when you need to when it suits you and you're only Indian when it suits you right but he he just he just he like they say a person comp like he was so well behaved right you know when you leave the house and your parents tell you you go out and you're not yourself you're very well behaved you're so aware of the things around you you're so aware of what you have to say and the things that you say you know that was that was Trump um you know we've talked on several things immigration inflation Wars I don't think he didn't Bel a point that under his administration there was like America was not in any war or did not go to any new Wars you know but under you can tell the amount of wars that America inv directly or indirectly you know that was something that he clearly would have would have said I mean he said it but again like all the points we said it did not car the way that deserves no not it did not really need to post sorry no I was going to say that if you sit down and really listen you would you would see that in certain areas he brought up really important points yeah but like you said it's how how it came up if you you you you you make a point as if it was an asside or you made it in passing people don't you know people might hear it but it's like the main topics then you go and focus on the sub topics to and then you you focus you leave the main topic and then you focusing on one subtopic like yeah that's important but it's not it should be like 10 seconds you have to go back to the main topic and Hammer hmer topic drive it home take a point and drive it home you know right here he didn't do that um looking at the post again one thing that you know most um post said was leading was um abortion because in my opinion that's the only thing or one of the only things that she can offer she's either going to talk about her race or she's going to talk about access to abortion that's appealing to women or the government is going to take your right to abortion she saying that on one hand but on the other hand she's the one who wants to make abortion the Federal issue M you know you can't be say oh we don't want the government to come in between you and your doctor to make decision on the other hand you really want the government to come between someone and the doctor by making it a federal issue so that people are in conservative States and who are more religious by Nature who tend to follow the law of the land which is going to be a federal law of the land and all of a sudden your values all of the government is in between that you know the government has created a law that you you you're free to have abortion which goes against a lot of people's consciences you know so she this is for all liberals and and progressives they have a way of using words to be able to um spur emotions to able to G vote from their con they have a way of frightening you making a boogy man out of you into scare you into making a decision you know and and and that's another point I think Trump said moderately well you know I've sent it back to the States if you guys want to a baby up to but you cannot go around making a federal issue such that states like Utah or don't want that to yeah they then suddenly they are forced to be able to do abortion you know um yeah I think that that that the only thing that she won and um I don't know if you have anything to add there no no I agree but again we all know uh if Democrats don't win on abortion issues then what would they win on right what so so it was obvious that he was going to do better when it came to abortion again not because not because I think that that a majority of the American people are pro pro life no h yeah not because um um not not because uh there are few pro-life Americans again just because Democrats have played over our emotions to the extent where when we hear abortion now people start people's eyebrows go up they start you know you know taking taking a step back and not not engaging so yeah Democrats again that that is something that they would always win on right and when it comes to appealing to the people yeah they would win when it comes to transgender issues of course come it didn't come up no yeah like like imagine the amount of propaganda you have to do to be able to make people think that abortion which is ending a pregnancy is reproductive Health like when someone says reproduction to you is it not usually the multiplication not promotion of particular gender promotion of a particular speci or promotion you know promotion of the human race or animal race or whatever like that's no like if you took biology in form one when someone says reproduction that's what it mean usually to multiply something but somehow they have changed the word for abortion to mean reproductive care like this is what um Josh or described in his uh book um about eup feminism like making what so M that people cannot even truth from reality people will call black white and white black you know like you have just Chang the definition so that someone will talk about the termination of reproduction as reproductive Health like make that make sense no or someone will say um you you are supporting children's right by guaranteeing their the ability to choose to cut the genitals off like you you're supporting children's right or you're for children by Ena them chop their breast off take hormonal blockers chop their genitors off like if if you don't look at this propaganda like want like you have to shake people to look at what they're doing to you you get what I mean it's it's it's it's um people people are so people are so afraid to even speak up or speak out on issues like that so when when those issues come up you you leave it to them leave it to the Democrats to to run with it they will always win on on those issues but again there were definitely other issues uh that came up which Trump would you would think would typically do better at which he he really did um so yeah do you think that there's going to be another debate I don't think so I don't know I I hope there will be Trump is going to accept one because there St I think Trump was in asking for another debate but I hope there's going to be one where he can come back um and I think it's also going to depend on their strategy post like what are they going to do they're going to make him go on more podcast go on more news conferences and stuff like that if they keep doing that I don't know if that changes the minds of a lot of people but I hope he can agree to another debate to be able to you know how my word will been sent like what else are they going to say like they really said this things he just has to say in a way that cares more weight um um um so I hope he can agree to another debate and to be able to say this thing clearly concisely in a way that the independent particular you which Trum would you prefer to see man I've always I've always been the fight fan of trump was a fighter somehow will tell you like even things that might not agree with him but he's clear and you know his position you know you know how to deal with him you know I've always been a fan of that type of trump but I I can understand almost understand why he had to water down and change and but I think he's done it too much that a lot of us are missing uh the Trump that he was that I mean that's why I was drawn to him someone who could say the truth and doesn't care about your feelings you know right now it's like he's gotten so much on the emotional side um he's been advised too much he's been pulled out of character and for me I I miss a lot of that Ultra because even even if there's another debate and this same the Trump of last night shows up yeah make it wor going to make it worse I would rather I would rather he not take a debate if that is that is the kind of debate that he he was going to have I rather just go do some something somewhere else go do a r press conference orc whatever no he would not no that that Trump is not is not good for him I don't think it's good for his campaign he decides to take another to do another again I don't know if they they wanting to do it but if he decides to do it it has to be the Trump that everybody knows not this one this Trump is not recognized by most people by the people who really supported him from the beginning not people who are coming here on like you can tell a lot of people are jumping the Trump train now you know it's trendy it's captivating and maybe they think he's been mellowed but the people who were with Trump from the beginning particularly people were there around 2016 and few years after that they're like something has changed about this guy he's the same guy um let's talk a bit about particularly the I don't know if you posted anything well I posted something on my my WhatsApp status and against Harris I got a got a few feedback from people that I don't talk to often but naturally people way one way or others and a lot of a lot of African immigrants in the United States and particularly women tend to vote Democrat and I've always voted Democrat um do do you think that is changing do you think Trump has appe to some Africans and stuff or do you think people still have their race Identity or their gender identity or their