Panthers Brutal Beadown in the Bayou Has Fans Chargeed Up

[Music] [Applause] in a world shut the hell up we're Carolina Panthers fans Anthony from Charlotte keep [ __ ] P have an insal Bo I need to see a lot more of that [ __ ] going forward P's news and opinion a C3 Brethren from the C3 Legion only one podcast L fous the longest running Panther podcast on the Internet it's the C3 Panthers podcast great I owe y all $100 what's up Panther fans you're listening to the longest running Panthers podcast C3 Panthers podcast tonight's show Panthers brutal beat down in the bayou has fans charged up charged up as I spelled it right there oh I spelled it like that in the title too Derek Brown out for the season guys um Carolina Panthers coming off a 47-10 loss on the road against the Saints and they will be opening against the LA Chargers uh home opener and the Chargers won their first game and ran all over the Raiders a tenacious defense and a dominating running attack where like a over 130 like 136 yards in the second half almost um threatens to run Carolina right out of the 2024 season we had the postgame show guys just a couple of days ago and uh the first call that declared season over came at 112 112 into the 2024 season we'll talk about Bryce Young's struggles in his U sophomore season debut people even calling for Bryce young to be benched at this point Point Andy Dalton got in there for one play we'll talk about that we'll talk about happy smiley Dave Canales who said didn't think we'd have to fix so much so much but guess what we're gonna help fix things tonight it's your Tuesday night therapy session smash the Thumbs Up Button be a part of the C3 podcast by calling in at 252 228 598 uh subscribe and uh don't forget for a do 99 a month you can be a C3 Super Fan um where is I need where's all right that will help us continue to grow um copay are accepted for the Carolina Panthers therapy couch over there the C3 therapy couch Cody La had to step away from the computer before his head exploded today probably so the three of us will be Manning it tonight the Wheelman CK is the voice that makes some voice you're my wheel man tonight man I am happy to be here and we are all incredibly disappointed and incredibly frustrated um by the team by the division amongst fans um I just I want to say that number one this football team does not supersede my belief that we are family regardless of whether you're a C3 listener or a PNP listener or any other listener for that matter we all love the Panthers we all want the best for the Panthers and it's important to me that you all know no matter what your belief systems are no matter how you look no matter the things you say you all are family and to treat each other anything less than that is a travesty and I'm really hoping that one game from a Carolina Panthers is not changing you as a human you as a person you as somebody who is willing to lets something so trivial as a one is as a as a football game that you have no say in how it's going to impact your morals or your beliefs I'm just stating take a breath take a moment do not let a football team ruin your mental health it sucks and it's really unfortunate but if you have that type of a mindset about this team that your life is horrible or that things can't go right because of this team it might be a good idea to take a step away for a little bit because right now it w it makes way more sense for you to be able to be happy than it is for you to continue to live in a life of dismay and frustration so all I'm stating we want you to be here with C3 but please be respectful to each other that does not mean that does not mean that there I'm calling anybody out I'm just stating let's please stop with the name calling let's stop with the pointing fingers let's just try to move on and hope that things go in the right direction express your opinion but do it respectively you know respected you know respecting me respecting each other's opinions please that's ask part of this is in reference to Simply I was at work all day I had the busiest day guys like I didn't even sit down till 815 to even start putting together the broadcast and stuff like that all day long it turns out there was a dang Twitter or whatever today that consumed a lot of people's time and energy thankfully I had a great day of course he did put this crap up and it would be I was like I can't even look at this I don't even want I don't got time for it um I barely got time for this 47 this Beatdown that the Carolina Panthers took oh CK telling us to not let this team affect our mental health and then doing a podcast where we follow this crap years I don't know how we figure that one out that is a paradoxical concept in its own well here's the thing is this is a therapy session you know we've all agreed on that yeah but my point being is it shouldn't change who you are whether the Panthers are a good team or a bad team and I just what I say and I've said this from the get-go Greg will no I have defended um you know our you know Greg in the midst of when Bryce young had a good year and everybody wanted to talk [ __ ] to you know to Greg right have some Grace about this have some moments of of listen okay everybody makes a mistake right be able to enjoy the moments when they happen that are positive without this mindset that you had to be right and and Greg that's not you know fault on yours this is everybody because we saw what happened when Bryce had a good year last year a good uh a good game last year everybody came out of the woodwork to roast you right so at the end of the day I'm just asking that everybody look at this from the perspective of it's a game and you legitimately have no say in what's going to happen on that field what's going to happen uh to the to the players to the coaches to anything on the back end right you have nothing to do with that this is purely a TV show and it's okay to be invested in that TV show but it is not okay to to treat other people as less than human because you have a disagreement about what you see on the field that's all I'm stating speaking of what we saw on the field Greg uh the Carolina Panthers went on the road to the New Orleans Saints lost 47-10 the Saints put up a total of 379 offensive yards against the Carolina Panthers 199 passing yards 180 rushing yards they averag 6.1 plays per G per per play they were seven for 13 on third down um and with just 62 plays 30 they dominated time of possession they had 10 penalties still oh 10 penalties for 95 yards I guess that's the one thing Carolina had less penalties for Less yards the Carolina Panthers on the other hand had a total whopping total of 193 offensive yards 135 in the air only 58 on the ground not surprising when you're behind from the first drive first second of the game it feels like Carolina an embarrassing one for 10 on third down one for three on fourth down yeah allowed four sacks uh punted the ball five times Greg the stat daddy those aren't good stats no no one of the one of the craziest stats is like where you're saying they had uh 10 scoring drives they almost had more as many scoring drives as we had completed passes in the game like it was bad Bryce young finished 13 for 30 161 yards no touchdowns mil Sanders the leading rusher five is that true five yard five rushes 22 yards is the best running back even though uh had 10 yards on Two Carries you've got to keep in mind this game got out of hand very quickly oh right and because of that you know this is this is by no means by the way this has no defense of Bryce young and what he did on Sunday but when you have that type of a of a immediate downfall it is impossible for your offense to gain any steam because you become so onedimensional you can you can essentially you know they're going to be passing the ball they might occasionally run but we couldn't even run when they didn't think we were running you know and so when that happens you know they all they have to do is defend the pass and when that's happening you're you're able to get the pressure they had uh I think we had we had four sacks three sacks from one guy in the secondary who was always coming off the Blitz and one of those was on Bryce the other two uh were the they just the D they did an incredible job of disgu in his Blitz um at least that's per Dave Canalis and and the film study he saw um and and so when you have this one-dimensional offense it becomes incredibly difficult to get any rhythm going whatsoever and so that the reason that this happened is in part because of Bryce you know he threw an interception on the first drive of the Panthers having the ball on offense um and when you don't have a defense that can stop an offense and you give the ball back to them two times within three drives because of mingo's fungal it's you you're you're playing from behind and you are not going to have that end well especially when you have Bryce young who who's not Mahomes let's be real about it he's not Mahomes he's not going to be able to overcome a deficit like that he's not Tom Brady he's not going to be over toome be able to overcome that deficit at least Point his yeah exactly so that's if they call the Tom Brady special scoring on the last Drive of the second quarter and then coming out getting the ball on the in the third quarter and scoring right away the Carolina special is 59 yard touchdown responded with an interception and uh boy I I mean it felt like you know that 59 yard touchdown felt like a dagger at the moment like oh here oh boy oh boy and then you're like the V next play and then you're like oh dear yeah oh dear dear dear dear God the Carolina Panthers will be hosting the Chargers who held the Las Vegas Raiders to 10 points they scored 22 here's the problem here they kind of dominated that game or at least the second half third quarter they scored they really dominated the third the fourth quarter um I think they had like 39 yards rushing in the first half and then um JK Dobbin finished with 10 carries 135 yards touchdown um they they were good right they were good Harbaugh you know the team the Greg Roman offense is going to come in here and want to run the ball against Carolina and they were able to put up 176 yards rushing right and hold the Las Vegas Raiders to 71 this is going to be complicated guys as we in just a moment get to the point that I don't want to talk about and that Dereck Brown is out for the year the most important doog in the defensive front that wasn't good against the run against the Saints the most important player is now gone so you're gonna have to deal with JK Dobbins the Jim Harbo Greg Roman offense without your best defensive player CK before we get too deep into the show roaring Riot you're heading uh to Charlotte to check out this Chargers game yeah so we're yeah on uh on Sunday obviously you have the Chargers it's the home game home opener for the Panthers um after what we saw in week one it's incredibly understandable why you 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why would that's that's that's what a masochist does yeah I uh I kind of went on a I had a fun I a guys night Day weekend away sort of on Saturday I got to see my ECU team uh pull off their second win of the Season wasn't pretty by any means at all points in the game but had a lot of fun with my old homies right um pulled into town U at 12:30 on Sunday and ter proceeded to not have a lot of fun watching the Carolina Panthers and a lot of people commented me about how too much not fun I had uh on that day as we did the postgame show some of my friends mentioned it to me and then I was like H I woke up dragon ass Dragon ass on Monday and the first text I get from somebody Derrick Brown injured I said what huh Derek Brown um reportedly injured his knee in the game that news leaked as of yesterday mhm a miniscus sprain or tear and then uh Derek Brown was seeking a second opinion but it looks like Derek Brown will miss the 2024 season guys with this news right here is it premature for us to say after that game it's over this season there's no well when I say over what I mean is that winning cannot be the measuring post of keep going or not guys how bad is this let's let's say this is how bad is this injury for the Carolina Panthers at this moment I think just based on the what kind of what you were to say and the fact that this is probably not going to be winning is not going to be on the table for the Panthers this year very often I mean we might win a couple games but you know because anybody can squeak one out but uh this is the best time to have him get injured to do this because we're not going to be any kind of competitive or competing for the division title and trying to make the playoffs right it's going to be more of a competition of uh how we can better the team for next year either by improving the players that we've got um or a better draft position but you know it's it's going to take more than one good draft pick to uh to make this team better so we started CK um or we've been having a conversation for I guess the last month or so where I've been asking who's a player that you love on this team and the only answer that anybody could continuously or all agree upon was Derek Brown Derrick Brown had a pro bowl level season last year um he broke for us to be fair yeah and now he's missing from an offensive line I mean from a defensive front uh that struggled to do anything against the New Orleans Saints how detrimental is this injury CK um man it's enough to make it pull your hair out if you have any left um it's it's just it's not great used to have a full head of hair when he started coming on this podcast yeah I wouldn't say it was certainly uh on the it was it was it was more than there is there now to be fair so um man it's it's it's tough because it felt like that was the centerpiece to this defense and with him being out there it was it didn't feel like it it was it with him being out there we still did as bad as we did mhm now add in the fact that he's not going to be there um this this maybe we find a scenario where this is actually you know I know this sounds dumb but maybe this um causes some people to step up and um I tell you what that asan pickup make it means a lot more than it did uh about a week and a half ago um having him sign as a free agent this offseason so um man it's hard to get excited about this you know as a Panthers fan this is the tough part because you the keep pounding m is you know is almost synonymous with great defense and running the ball and we just aren't we aren't that right now and it's tough um but here's the thing and I said this from from day one if I don't know how much of that blowout loss was us being that bad versus New Orleans being really good and I think both are true I think we're bad but I also think we've underestimated what the Saints are going to be this year I agree with that I um I think I know that is I wanted the Saints to be bad yeah I wanted Alvin Kamar to be a thing of the past yeah I wanted uh the idea that uh D whatever Cory is was going to stink yeah I wanted to believe those things now dere is it Derek dve Derek Derek Cor um he's that type of player that he's going to have those games against teams like us he's going to play really well there's going to be times where he's not great but they still have good receivers they've got a good defensive line their offensive line played pretty played well against us and they got a superstar and Alvin Kamar yeah so they're not as bad of a team as I want as I hoped or wanted them to be sure Bryce young did have a worse game than I ever could expected have have been and he had a PFF grade of 32 Andy Dalton 53 with his one play um Jonathan Mingo somehow had a higher PFF score than Bryce young yeah and he's stunk the Carolina Panthers have moved on though or not moved on have done some work uh where I I don't even know where I pulled this from they signed uh former uh Detroit Lions linebacker Charles Harris um I think he's like one of the sack one of their former sack leaders in a season Carolina Panthers have signed an outside linebacker I guess to help maybe with some of this pass rush or to help anything um I don't even really know how to address this G first game um I thought it was interesting you go you guys come well get that for one second you guys talk about whatever you want to talk about I want to pull this clip from um Dave Canales play real quick well I wanted to talk we were talking about the Saints defense and to be truly honest the Saints defense didn't really play that well if you look at both the turnovers the guys were open they were just overthrown balls uh I mean so it wasn't so much them being in great position and and you know blanking the receivers it was just a bad throw by Bryce for both the interceptions no no so but you're only focused on those two plays you got to keep in mind they forced uh a fumble by Mingo um they did uh you know even if you want to say they didn't you know I can understand the position that you would have but they did a pretty good job covering our wide receivers uh down the down the line they sacked Bryce four or five times and and some of those were just creative blitzes um I think I think if you look at the you know even if you wanted to do this just to give some Credence to PFF I bet you if you look at their numbers I bet you they have really highly rated PFF numbers um I think their offense probably has really good ones too because our defense couldn't stop them but I do think that they played incredibly good complimentary football um and basically what they did and you got to keep in mind both of those interceptions were Bryce Young on the run because pressure made its way to him from iky side and so when you see that you're you know they did a pretty good job they forced that you know even though Bryce is supposed to be really good at those throws on the Run being able to get the ball down the field which we saw in PR season um because they forced him off this spot and to force that throw down the field in the middle of uh you know the the uh Deontay Johnson one in the middle of uh coverage that was pretty good there was a window there but it wasn't like wide open you know it's it forced him to throw that ball and unfortunately it was over overthrown that's fair yeah I mean they they they C they forced the fumble on Bryce too that's a good point so I guess they did yeah I mean maybe they did play better defense than I'm just thinking about but yeah I don't know it was so embarrassing it's one of these things that you feel like the season's over after the first quarter right like I mean it's kind of like I said the beneficial thing of of uh Johnson being or not Johnson um the injury to our defensive alignment being out yeah Derek Brown is that you know get injured he's not gonna get injured next year yeah he can't get he can't get more hurt now and you know not my Sundays are going to be yeah my Sundays are going to get a little uh little easier to deal with because I'm fully not expecting you know a lot out of the team this year um well I think it's wild this is uh to be one game into the season and this is a footage from Carolina Blitz here just a short little clip um and this is uh Dave Canalis he was asked about the preseason stuff again what's the solution we're looking at all of it so I think my responsibilities the head coach is to say okay let's look at all the processes and we had a plan we went into the the into training camp into the preseason with a plan in mind um the the ramp up as we got closer to the season and you know felt good about the rep counts and all that but I got to look at everything you know to to come out and in all phases have that much to fix it starts with me it starts with the process and it starts with us combing through all of it to see there's nothing you can do about it now about the past but looking forward as you Circle back around is is there a way that we could have helped more so what's your plan at defensive tag all right I just think uh to me that first I don't expect him to say anything different than that yeah you know um coach I mean he's GNA be doing that yeah for sure but the idea that you're re-evaluating your core processes from after week one to me as bananas you know is like oh gosh we really got to go back to the complete drawing board because this plan I'd like to know what the plan was well I the plan was for to not suck that bad yeah well the plan is I think this is I would be like I don't really think is uh I don't know is like is do was that just like a training camp failure is it the like he's talking about these process I don't know like he said we got to see if we can do more to help them could you help these guys more right now I mean Could you actually have done anything different that's going to make all of a sudden uh make her players better yeah know want to get more out of them but God this was it just looks like are we tal the question is is there enough Talent on this team I mean you got to keep like the thing you've got to keep in mind we are the I think the the second or third oldest team in the NFL so you can't these are all no money we're old and we're bad well I mean we we're bad but here's the thing is like so you can't say that these guys don't know how to play they've been in the league long enough to where they're like listen they're players yeah now whether they're good players they're they're none they're NFL players no matter what they shouldn't be they shouldn't be getting blown out 47 to 10 it's just not there's no scenario that makes sense where that should be the outcome and so no I don't think that it's a matter of talent I think that there was number one it's my belief again and I still maintain this I think that they should have been playing in preseason because everything that he Dave Canalis is quoting as being the issue here are that they needed to to work on communication what was my reason for saying that we needed to be able to have their starter play uh in in preseason do you guys remember anybody was was it did it have anything to do with communication right oh it might have been number one reason okay so that's the defense now you said BR young is still getting to know his wide receivers well guess what will help him get to know his wide receivers playing in real games even if it is preseason is playing in real games and so if we had Play here's the thing is this game if he had come if we lost this game this was always going to be a lose situation for Dave Canalis by approaching it the way that he did I love Dave Canalis and his personality I know many of people you do not like him I think that he's the type of Personality that you need for team that's that's that's actually struggling right now because I tell you what these teams don't need somebody who's going to sit there and dog water like basically dogwash them right it's just not going to H like that's not you need guy who's going to be able to pick these guys out of the mud and they're going to want to come and play when they're down 47 to10 and it might be tough but they want to do that and so here's my thing is is I think that the biggest blunder is they should have let the starters play in preseason because if they still sucked at week one then we know there's a problem uh schematically um and and you know to be honest with you you know there's there's you can you no longer can put the excuse on Bryce Young right now you still have that little little glimmer of hope that maybe just maybe this was because he only got one drive in preseason but I mean again that's that's a a fleeting thought with the way that that performance happened last week I just grabbed a screenshot of this screen right here oh see this just took a picture I'm going to do maybe I can do this each week and we could do like a speed speed up thing to see how old he looks at the end of the season like what happened with Reich just in a matter of like 10 games the dude just like like is he going to go from like an underwear model to an insurance salesman to a uh I don't know by week 17 will he look like Frank Reich at this point all answers point to yes on that front I think the problem I you know I don't even all right actually I'll say this is um there is a potential that the beat down like there's just the wheel came off right and there was no writing it in that game period so it doesn't you know maybe the idea of saying um the season is completely over completely over in the first 12 minutes of 2024 is a little too uh exaggerative but I don't know if it actually is I'm trying to say that somebody said this it was a great comment I wanted to see it in the chat and it was about somebody said said one of the players said we got to look in the mirror and figure out who we are in week one Panthers are cooked right it's like so it's just like week one guys uh and week one leads to this conversation right here oh oh let me see where I put it here we go I have an old slide in here this is the headline and on uh the athletic.com new season uglier result Bryce Young that's the ti that's the headline new season uglier result Bryce young strugle struggles and Panthers offer little hope in week one person with the athletic go subscribe to them and help uh continue to I guess keep Panther content and existence through these struggles he said he wrote coming off the last year's NFL worse 2 and 15 finish it was the kind of opener where dreams go to Die the 37 P go ahead CK I was to say I mean to that point like it's this was his worst performance of his career to date by the way like I mean you can point to the point to the the pick sixes that he threw against uh Indiana or Indiana um Indianapolis Colts right um and say maybe that is but this is you know if you statistically speaking right there it just shows that this is probably his worst game and um and so I here's my thing is I just just feel like he feel he's defeated there's something about his because here's the thing and and Greg your your thought is it's preseason right but even in training cam like he wasn't overthrowing guys like he has the accuracy but when the pressur on he's just not getting the ball where it needs to be right now and so like that's the thing that's so irritating to me is I see him in practice again slower situation these guys are he's not having to worry about getting hit you know all that stuff goes into mental he was hitting all of his wide receivers like he was as accurate as I probably would expect anybody to be when I was there watching him and then you see this and you're just like this is completely different than what he's shown when there's no pressure so clearly pressure is the issue for him and so that's the concern I have is he's not stepping up and able to overcome the adversity that he's created in his own mind even by the way iy struggled this week by the way he struggled but everybody else was very solid we cannot blame the o line we can't like that is the case we cannot put that you had the two new free agent score really play very well PF Austin Corbett played really well at and he'll get better hopefully as he continues to get more football shape as well as more familiar with the so I guess there is some optimism there um person continued to write that the 37p point deficit was the F fourth worst in Panthers history while the Saints who aren't exactly Super Bowl contenders racked up their highest ever week one point total uh this is let me see who wrote Bryce young said this of course you want to come out and start on a high note it happened today and that's it it happened today and that's tough you're going to wear that out wear that today you're going to learn from it we turn the film on tomorrow and that doesn't Define us obviously a long year but we've got to Turn the Page it's a tough League I don't know if I know uh it's hard to tell if I believe I don't think Bryce is mentally defeated yet but there have been a lot of questions on Sports Talk Radio in Charlotte about is he broken at this point right there have um I did you know he's coming up uh fist bumping kind of people and smiling after that interception and nobody was giving a high five were doing it it it felt like that for a moment now I'm sure the teammates I'm sure his teammates report him plenty so you know we're just using like a one visual where the camera panned away my friend at uh later on he told me he said uh well if you weren't blocked by Derek Anderson Tony you could ask him about uh was Bryce young laughing because Derek Anderson has that famous moment where they caught him laughing as they were getting carb stomped by a team on the sideline he goes you think this is funny you think it's funny I wasn't laughing so maybe maybe Bryce young wasn't laughing uh at that point guys don't 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and how did that make you feel uh very uncomfortable so how do you think cat calling makes the person feel feels good like that corner withed in [Music] Cody CK the whole C3 crew man what's going on this is your boy uh CP the vinage retr man North Carolina's hope dealer um hope dealer love to hear what happened on Sunday man uh after the game with the Saints division rival down in New Orleans it's hard to deal hope right now it's hard to deal hope right now fellas um I mean from beginning to end it was uh it was atrocious I I couldn't believe what I was seeing it's just hard to process right now man uh it looks like Bryce you know I hate to bail on him so quick man but it looks like Bryce is a huge part of the problem the defense couldn't stop anything man we got JC horn getting burned and then to add insult the injury man just saying Derek Brown might be out for the rest of the season with with an injury um you know it's just it's just tough man and so man I need you guys man to deild some hope for us all man because you know I appreciate the podcast I just uh you know it's just just rough right now and um I don't know which way to go man it's you know Canalis is new and Morgan is new and everything man Cody CK the crew man just you know just trying to keep my head up right now um it don't get no easier so hey we gotta keep pounding some kind of way man keep pounding let's go thank you for the call man a great call um they need hope dealt from us um all right well how about this is I'll approach this in a strange manner The Hope dealing in a strange manner because I saw an C3 Anthony in the comments bring this up I saw this on uh Craig sent me this analyst urges drastic action if Carolina Panthers QB young slumps continues some people are already calling for Bryce young to be benched uh going with Andy Dalton and on top of that uh Dave Canal said he was even trying to get Andy in for another drive but he was hoping they would catch some momentum and some different things like this uh I am with as and C3 Anthony uh Anthony from Charlotte put this comment up he said don't bench Bryce if he's bad let him be the reason we need to move in another Direction so really you got a couple options right here and that is uh do you continue to Trop Bryce back out there as he struggles do you P bench him maybe even early in the season give Andy Dalton a time to work and then maybe Bryce can come in later maybe that could be an option to be an odd one maybe um Bryce young plays for a little while struggles and then he gets pinched um to me I'm with C3 Anthony here is I'm making I'm making Bryce young go out there and play every game if he's if he is physically able and he is not injured I want him to play and I want him to play every damn snap and if it gets worse and worse and worse it gets worse and worse and worse if it gets a little bit better it gets a little bit better but I don't want anything at the the end of this season like this is when we were talking about it earlier and saying have we lost all hope in the 2024 season after the first 12 minutes of the season the first 12 minutes not even game minutes actual minutes 1:12 p.m. this past Sunday um to me The Benchmark of any success is just continu to yeah learning about Bryce this is a learn about Bryce season so that's my hope to you is don't bench Bryce don't even think about it Canalis and him work all season long if they stink and they stink and they stink and they stink and we go 0 and 17 well guess what we'll be able with Comfort move on yeah sadly sadly it would be like a you know very sad moment if you had to part ways with a moment of like a somber moment if that happens well I think the worst case scenario is that say we have in for like the first eight or nine weeks and we're 0 and n and he just hasn't been doing anything and then all of a sudden they decide they want to put Dalton in and then we win like two or three games and take us out of that spot that top spot that's the good news with that is if we are in the like the we're not going with a quarterback in the draft by by the way there's just no scenario where we're going quarterback in this draft and the reason I say that even if we're top 10 um they're number one overall pick no you were not going with a quarterback either because you're trading back there is nobody in this quarterback class worthy of the number you're not going to pass on a generational Talent at another position of need and when to draft a quarterback that would probably go in the top 20 outside of the top 20 it's just not gonna we're back we're back in the conversation of Malik Willis and and Kenny picket right so that's that's you're not doing that um now there there's scenarios where it makes sense where maybe you go the route of of um of uh trading back which in my opinion makes more sense than drafting a quarterback so you let's say you trade back um sure go after a quarterback at that point in time get some assets start building off uh the future the thing no matter what we do it is going to be a quarterback competition next year Bryce is going to get another shot you go get like a guy like gol maybe like the Lions did right so that's it's not going to be a scenario where um it's handed to Bryce I think that they will give him an honest quarterback competition if he continues down the trajectory that he's on now but Bryce is going to be a Carolina Panther next year now a lot of people you're not going to be happy with that but it is in fact what's going to happen wow Malik Willis was only two years with his team not first he also wasn't a first overall pick I also just want to put this is It's week one week one now I'm not shaming anybody because I just think it's crazy that we even just had those words coming out of our mouth draft next year Bryce young and it's week one yeah week one 252 228 598 next go A3 is au link I haven't been able to watch much your guys' live I have been watching it and listening to the podcast while I'm at work and traveling so my parents have NFL Sunday tickets I watched it and I wish I hadn't and I'm pretty sure Cody's going to be talking about this in the post game not sure I'm just about to listen to this during my run hopefully it could run their session for me but I'm from the state of Alabama I'm an Alburn and grad I may link but I've seen Bryce yel person and I'm 58 190 little little round right now and I could probably throw him over with one arm he doesn't have the mask in the right places to be NFL player maybe a kicker maybe a kicker but he has more of a soccer player uh not a football player and it's very apparent that he should have gone soccer or baseball instead of football he's not big enough he's not smart enough and Dave Canal even admitted that he has to be creative to create give him running Lanes throwing Lan throwing lanes because he's too short to throw like any other quarterback you need to be about 6'2 to see over your lineman when they're hunched over battl out he's 5'9 and change say oh he's 510 brother I've seen him in person haven't been up close to personal him because he's Alabama guy I'm aler guy but I've seen him he's not much bigger than me I'm 5'8 but now we are in the quarterback Market unless he does a one 18 turn I don't blame this on Dave Canal I blame this on Dan Morgan a little bit because we got our defense to create an offense well our offense was horrible and our defense was so gutted of talent that we couldn't do anything and now derck brown is having season ining surgery so we literally have JC horn who didn't look great but wasn't terrible who looked like he need safety El from that play where that touchdown happen but and got a sack yay so literally we're being held with bandaids and duct tapes that comes to his offensive defense because our people we invested in couldn't do anything we could have the best receiving core in the NFL but if for quarterback hands to brought us out of a barn it won't matter that's all I gotta say guys keep pounding here comes the misery yeah tough game to watch um you know we continue look as Bryce Young's body mass is not going to change anytime soon forever um I don't know uh you know I'm not going to get uh and here's a little hope they ask for the Hope deal is it hopefully well hopefully that's going to be the worst you're going to see when it comes to the offense that game you know I mean it's like it's really going to be difficult to not be any better than that you know I mean if you can continue to protect a little bit you don't give up a big giant play on the first one and you can run and grind a little will put Bryson you know and get a little conf you know so bry's season not over sure the Carolina Panthers season isn't over the problem is is that or at least it feels like is that where you were hoping to see some promise of just um progress on the offensive side you just didn't see any uh unless you could focus on some of those wins at the offensive line and then the defense is just getting torched you know so it's like oh God this is going to be a long ass season right away um so let's not write we're not ready to write anybody off yet in fact this could be a great storyline of how Bryce young salvages a 2024 season after a tough start game one how Dave Canalis was able to keep these guys going together just really feels like with the Derek Brown injury that this defense could just get blown out a lot yes and no I mean he was the best player on our defense but I I don't think that losing the one player is going to make us significantly worse than we were already are we didn't have a pass rush the the theory was this is that there wasn't a talented group at pass rushers as it is and you're taking away the most talented guy on the front which is going to make it more difficult on the other dudes so it might not like the one player it's always the next man up this is the one player didn't you know you kind of just don't want the the two players on defense I think you really needed to have this season or maybe three were clowny Brown uh Derek Brown and JC horn I think those are kind of the guys that you really needed to play a full season or at least that's how I felt um so um we'll be here though we'll be here through all of it see how these guys can recover against a San Diego not San Diego La Chargers team that was able to run the ball at will against the Raiders in the second half last week the numbers 252 228 98 let's go to another call what's up guys this is kg from Jacksonville uh this is like my second ever call I called for the first time on Sunday after that game and that game man I'm still thinking about it today and I was was working today I'm out here cutting grass and I was thinking about y's Tuesday show which I usually listen to when I'm working but of course it's Monday so I didn't have it and it wanted me to tell yall a story last night after that game man I was I was down to the dumps pretty bad and I'm sitting there scrolling through Tik Tok and this Tik Tok pops up and it's Cam Newton in a sit down interview and I can't remember what the lady's name was but one of the questions she asked him she was like is it over and he looks at her and he sits there and he Pond and he's like I think it is and then she goes in your head in your heart and he's like in my head I think it is and she's like what does your heart say he's like it'll never be over and it cuts to a mind Montage of some of his highlights and it has a song playing over it and man it got me in my feels I was about to cry and honestly it just got me thinking like those are the best times ever as a Panther fan yes and maybe those times only come once in the lifetime but like that's what made me a Panther fan was Cam Newton yeah having a player like that a generational Talent made me a Panther fan like for people who are growing up now as Panther fans I don't know what make like other than living in North or South Carolina what would make you a Panther fan like we don't have any generational players and another thing that may me think about that is dere Brown he might be out for the season but honestly is that GNA change anything about the outcome of this season him playing or not I don't know and that's a terrible feeling and he's one of our best players and it's like does it even matter that he plays or not like it's not like I don't I don't even know I just thought I'd call in and share that it just sucks man that I'm grateful that I got to experience Cam Newton in the prime and Prime Carolina Panthers but it also just sucks for people growing up now like they have nothing to cheer for basically that's a terrible feeling um yeah maybe a little dramatic we're one game into this season but it just sucks that we don't have the guy a guy it it's a terrible feeling all right sorry for a sour note but yeah sad make us all cry I'll tune in to the show way to make us all cry buddy no uh my friend saw my friend out actually I have it in my text messages that same Tik Tok video he showed me and he said when I saw this at tear SM I was like oh God I don't want to watch cry cry right here in front of everybody um let's go to Scott from Winston Salem hey guys it's Scott from Winston Salem thought I should call in man that guy that was down in the corner of the end zone throwing those t-shirts dude those are strikes he hit everybody he needed to hit in the stands my God what was it like uh 20 seconds into the game I turned the TV off bro after that pick I went outside hung canopy lights argue with my wife and had a better time than watching the football game ridiculous another thing why don't we go ahead and Mark like four games off next year as losses and start us at like negative five so we got to overcome five more games just to get to zero I mean God Almighty Jes I'm gonna do that mentally so I just picked the right number I mean this guy Bry young dude I wanted to succeed I do but it is so hard and you can't blame it all on him yes Jonathan Dro I mean Mingo he dropped some passes yes he did our running game looked okay but then we go away from the running game and then we went back to the running game and it was talked about all year we are going to run the ball all preseason we're going to run man we're going to establish a run what do we do the first pass of the game My God an interception and then he didn't even looked upset about it when he threw he was on the sideline smiling when they showed the closeup saying it's my fault yeah bro definitely your fault who else's fault is it and what kind of stupid Crossing route was that where both players are going to be Crossing at the I think they were scared of hitting each other and the Defenders are like I'm just going to wait on it because he's gonna throw it right to me it's sure to God he did I swear dude but Greg hey man your beard looks good dude I like that blocked off look apprciate it an excellent dialogue from you guys as always I agree with Cody everything you said at the very beginning I mean I had to cut it off a little bit because my kids was in the ring but uh hey man that's the way it is hopefully we can get some wins this year and I'm not gonna talk about draft picks for next year because that's probably not fair to do I mean it's the first game but hopefully we can rebound and uh have some good play and uh the Jets talking about how they're going to the Super Bowl I don't think so bro I'm watching that game right now and they're down is 237 so good luck with that anyway Scott from Winston Salem have a good night guys and listen to the show on Tuesday goodbye thanks a lot for the call man uh it's crazy when arguing your wife is better than watching a football game yeah it's like hey you had the choice between this beer right here and this football game with wings or an argument in your wife and you're like I'll take the argum jeez that means that football game stinks yep that game stinks uh oh he mentioned Aaron Roger well he mentioned the Jets I uh kind of had the Jets is I wanted them to I was hoping they'd catch the 49ers sleeping Christian mcaffry was out screwed up a lot of things for me and life as I didn't check it anyway and then they just still proceed to put an undrafted free agent out there who's destroying the defense of the Jets and and then Brock pie was pretty damn impressive pretty damn impressive um you know I think Rogers and and maybe if we made a parallel to the game to our game yeah is uh he hit Lazard on a third down completion in that first drive or something that Lazard slipped out of his break and then dropped right out the G and it just felt like momentum CH you know what I'm saying then you got you got AR rog's like Fu it was just like all of a sudden it felt like they could have caught him sleeping and then that one play really just changed it yeah I thought anyway uh let's go the number is 252 228 5098 we'll take another call I don't even know if anybody entered the roran riot thing I haven't seen one um let me we have one entry all right we about to win this sucker pretty good odds of winning yeah unless it's one of you guys who just were trying to tell people how to put in oh I know right no all right let's go to the next call good morning guys this is 6:25 in the morning how are you doing this beautiful morning probably still asleep well I don't know sh anyway so um I just wanted to call um I rewatched the game God what a horrible decision I want to be know rest today watching that this morning um but um cuz I've been up since four uh I wanted to get up early and watch the 22 anyway um to be honest um Bryce suck but um it wasn't all on Bryce but most of it was but the defense I want to talk about the defense the defense I think we as as fans and and over overlooked the real the reality the the the gentleman that we called IO guys um we thought they would come in and play great under ao's system reality they were free agents for a re that just was uh Josie jwes was a free agent for a re um and and he looked awful um um asan Robinson looked as awful um Jordan the safety looked really bad I think that's the name anyway um they just did okay um you know and and my first initial thought that crossed my head watching this was EV IO is purposely screwing this up so he gets fired and go think him go because he didn't want to be here anyway well that that that was a kind of dumb thought so I skipped that part so um reality is um we hyp them too much up to do that they're just not that that talented um I did noticed that iy elode started the game uh Johnson didn't get that many snaps um but um the problem was the defensive blind just didn't the the defensive line got pushed into the linebackers roughly all day and yeah um um I to was a mistake signing but the team is stuck with him cap wise so there's not really a way out till the end of this till next year you're still going to take dead cat but you can have some benefits if you releasee him at the end of the year yeah um there going to be a lot of players like that but you're again again again me and D talked about the spaces yesterday I guess his timing ran out there yeah might it might be what I was just seeing if it was a going to finish up um man again yeah there's there's there's so many layers to this whole thing um was there any more of the pickles because he uh he got cut off he's got uh just a little bit more let's sorry guys I'm taking too long doing this nonetheless we're gonna have to have a bunch of roster changeovers I I I wouldn't be surprised at all if the defense doesn't turn it around we make the defensive coordinator change next year because IO has one year left on his deal after this season he has one year left on his contract and then he goes to basically unrestricted free agency and and he got a bunch of job offers last year I don't think that's going to change next year so I really I don't think they can they really can't trade him I don't think unless he turns everything around he's going to be a head coach so um you know it may be time to move on from rivo at the end of this year in the roster you want to have a big big enough change over on the defensive side of the roster if you desire to switch defenses to a three to a 4 or3 under a different coordinator as possible nonetheless I'm I'm really done going to revision this history on the draft I'm kind of over that because I could go back 30 years revision of history on the draft and we don't know need that so life goes on um I'm going to do a video here late pretty soon about the uh contract issues with Bryce uh pay attention to that uh y'all connect with us on three C3 Legion spaces we there all right man thank you pickle you guys got any comments to his call or just Mis I mean it's it's not you know I've I've voiced my concerns over IO um since last year when people were put trying to put him in the head coaching category of uh somebody who's going to be you know sought after by other teams um I think that it was easy to cover up miss things that were maybe blemishes in his system last year because they didn't have to throw against this defense and so it made it feel like maybe there was you know it was always easy to say well the offense isn't giving them uh any help and all that stuff but I never saw anything from this defense last year that screamed that this was the The Difference Maker this was who it is this is like you know this guy is giving us an edge over top of other team teams um they would hold their own uh to a degree but um as of now I mean so far game one if we're judging Bryce and I wanted to throw that same judgment on AO I think that right now it looks as though he's not an asset um we'll see how the year goes a lot of players made mistakes in that game that you know I'm saying that we're blown so it doesn't even matter if you're coaching it right that right but if there's a communication issue that is the underlying problem that's is still going back to you know things that Greg and I have always kind of maintained that's a coaching issue if it's everybody on your team and they're all NFL players and their issue is communication then it's not because one player isn't isn't communicating correctly it's that all of them are not communicating correctly and that regardless of any of that if this season goes poorly and and this defense plays poorly you're really looking at a a coach that's in his going to his second year that inherited AO at a convenience there's going to be if this if this falls apart this SE if it's just a dismal season you can't believe that there's going to be some there's got to be some sacrifice made to the Tepper to the altar of terer um to show that you are trying to do something about it so um all right so can we go ahead and do the uh we had a few entries and so if everybody has entered that is actually interested in going um to it's going to be I'm literally going to press this button to draw the person so you will you have one minute uh before I'm going to talk after I get finished talking to put in the uh the hashtag roaring Riot like the real AP did just uh a little bit up uh the the chat here if you're on YouTube it's again hashtag roaring Riot r o a r i n g Riot r i o t um and and so uh once this uh once I'm done talking I'm going to go ahead and hit the button to draw so if you're in Charlotte on Saturday and you're looking for something to do have fun with some Panthers fans uh and and not have to you know watch the game uh please go ahead and put that in there uh and we'll uh we'll find a way to make this work let me make sure that that entry that entry did work so you're good with the lower case it looks like so um so I think we got the final ENT in now that I've uh you know been talking here for about a minute and a half so oh we got Scott Thomas putting it in there okay maybe uh maybe I give it a second here uh just to make sure before while we give it a second let me do this I'll shout out this is thank you for the C3 Super Chat uh RC graveyard for $5 he said I personally put all the fault on Tepper understand the change was necessary but Rivera always had us in in some form of fighting shape team has no fight also shout out to Charlotte Sports one with two backto back C3 bombs right here Charlotte Sports One $5 says absolutely Anthony Bryce this is in reference to Anthony saying look we got to play him Bryce 17 games he says absolutely Anthony Bryce has 17 weeks to show whether he's the guy or not we need a top pick to trade back with keep pounding everyone and then fall uh Charlotte Sports One back at it with $2 says poll keep evero year three pass that or move on Greg uh cool cool Poll for that that's a great idea look we appreciate everybody being here for this uh calling in participating in these giveaways and you can smash the thumbs up button to support us or support us monetarily like that CK yes giveaway Let's uh make sure that I'm going to go ahead so that way nobody thinks that I am doing anything unfair I'm going to go ahead and share the screen that is the giveaway screen hold on oh yeah I've never even seen it so I'm interested what does our giveaway screen I don't know how to how to how we did this do you see this yeah yeah okay so as you guys see it says we have eight entries not ideal we wanted to have a little more uh but uh two of those entries are Carolina cat Chronicles because we wanted to show you what it looks like so if we draw our own name we're obviously going to draw again um and if you're in chat and your name gets drawn please please please comment and then what I'm going to have you do is I'm going to have you if you can just let me know in the in the chat if you're able to I'm going to have you message me on Twitter SLX or whatever you want to call it at CLE Allen or you can message Tony as well and we'll get your name and your email and then we'll get that over to Josh Klein to have him email you the copy of those tickets uh so let me go ahead and uh draw this and Tony watch it be Tony that'd be hysterical this is such a oh I like this winner oh we got we're doing this we got to do some giveaways this was neat yeah so uh Scott Thomas you have officially won the giveaway sorry Justin I know you had it there had the runaway Victory uh you did you did it was almost theirs yours was the last name shown before Scott Thomas's was the last one on there oh man that was pretty neat that it did that like I like how that looked visual element there yeah yeah it was pretty cool um so please Scott reach out if you can I'm assuming you're on X I believe if I'm not mistaken you can reach out to me or Tony um if it's easier Tony obviously got that cat Chronicles uh Twitter handle so um all we need is your name and your email and we'll get that over to Josh Klein to get that over to you um so please uh let us know and uh look forward to meeting you be sure to look for me uh Saturday because I will be there um look for my bald head I'll be there with my wife and I'll probably be flying a Dr so um hopefully we uh we avoid weather issues to make it not possible for me to fly the Drone we'll see but look forward to meeting you man all right the numberers 252 228 98 let's take another call P the nation it's your boy Josh from Mass what an ass whooping damn um I don't think anybody expected that weak one but damn uh but hindsight you look at it really all that I mean that kind of ass what would know not necessarily I didn't really expect to win I just wanted to see progress but right look at the sum of the parts you got a bunch of new players bunch of new like all new mostly all new coaching staff I think honestly I'm going to say the biggest disappointment for me was that defense CU all offseason so continuity continuity continuity ever ever I mean they just gave it all up I know we turned the ball over on offense but they got six points off of that combined for those two times six points right all their touchdowns came on their own you know they were kicked the ball or punted the ball on those drives that's the defense letting them March and then special teams like they just letting them run the ball out to the you know well past that 30 yard marker like what are we doing what are we doing there uh price didn't look sharp at all I wish there was something nice to say about that but man uh it looks like he just got unsettled from the very beginning and that was it um I will say his footwork looked better he you know he was a little more planted he had a wider base but yeah I don't know from from from jump everything else just was messy so I mean it's a long season it ain't over it ain't over we got time and I mean oh maybe by the time this episode's out we'll know what's going on with Derek Brown but man that's a huge loss you can't speak to that just just how big of a loss that's going to be but uh vincus is something that you can come back from kind of quick uh I would know my father doesn't have a Mancus in either knee they're both shot being an appliance repair man will uh annihilate the body in some weird ways but yeah the defense just looked so out of sorts like nobody knew what their assignment was nobody knew where they were supposed to be like every go oh JC got burned no no no no no there was supposed to be safety help over top you go oh well if you're that good of a corner no people who were saying well if you're that good of a corner you don't get like that y'all don't you don't that ain't it man I'm out of time joshu from mat we still pounding we still pounding you know about that here we come we got the second best record in the league right now so I mean we at least say that you know the funny thing about that interception that first one that JC horn got burnt on um he was supposed to have help back there but did it look like he just kind of gave up on it yeah it's hard to say like so the way I look at it and and I'm you know always one that's going to air on the side of I'm going to give the player the benefit of the doubt especially when like JC horn um to me it seemed that that was more of a um like he was already there was not even if he was running full speed he wasn't stopping that dude getting into the end zone yeah like so and and it wasn't until like the 10 yard line that he actually slowed up um but again that's of those things that you wonder if like if if because that dude was falling if if he had fallen like a yard shy you might have been able to touch him down but you had given up at the 10 yard line right so I feel like that's one of those things that is going to it's going to it's going to build a narrative if that happens more and more uh from JC horn but that's something that we've never seen we've never seen him just give up on a play he's always been somebody who's followed through so um one time doesn't make the man in my mind great all right let's take another call mecking guys well whoever scripted that [ __ ] [ __ ] he man I know it's been a minute since that called but [ __ ] bro how the [ __ ] you just the first offensive [ __ ] first offensive [ __ ] thing of the game 50 something yard touchdown all right whatever maybe somebody slip I don't [ __ ] know then the offense TRS out on the field with all [ __ ] happy SE there he throws a [ __ ] interception first throw hey coach chiy F huh I thought we were supposed to run the [ __ ] ball I thought we supposed to Pound The Rock getting pounded is your ass little [ __ ] [ __ ] [ __ ] [ __ ] guys I [ __ ] swear bro and then [ __ ] Bryce you ever see the [ __ ] cartoons right you ever SE the with the [ __ ] legs moving a million miles hour they're not going anywhere that's him is interception overthrow oh he hit B dropped it oh you know last year when we said we convinced ourselves Well it can't get worse it's only up from here apparently there's a secret level of [ __ ] hell boys and we found it holy [ __ ] I everybody's in panic nobody wants to see this [ __ ] more bro I [ __ ] swear this team is like a toxic [ __ ] girlfriend like they never [ __ ] listen always disappointing you you know you like to look at him sometimes if you really look at him and then you remember who had him before you kind of get gross down it's [ __ ] you know what I'm saying like [ __ ] I don't know man I don't know how many Sundays I can take this [ __ ] [ __ ] all I wanted with a competent offense I expected losing all right I didn't expect to win that game I didn't expect to get blown the [ __ ] out like that all I just wanted something the defense took a step back and the offense still look stagnant as off [ __ ] they don't know what the [ __ ] you're going and you know hey maybe in [ __ ] pre-season you would have had some [ __ ] continuity some timing down maybe just maybe fck cut my head off with that one maybe it would help okay hey Pon I gota go Pon muscles marinara uh there um said the panther fans have found a new secret level to Hell uh because it couldn't get worse let's see what we got I think this might be Nick and Seattle happy Tuesday boys it's Nick calling in from out in Seattle and I was doing some thinking and y'all let me know what you think about this because am I just [ __ ] or does this make sense we should be running a 4-3 not a 34 now Tony I know you've spoken at this at length I'm right up there with you our defense has never been built to run a 34 I don't know why David peer's dumbass keeps forcing us to do it but our defense is not built that way our defensive line is Tiny shy Tuttle is barely 300 pounds and we got him at the noar our linebackers are always engaged with offensive lineman which is why we're constantly getting bullied in the Run game it's because our entire ront seven is dealing with [ __ ] kind of block I think a 43 would make way more sense now hear me out this is what I think it would look like on the defensive line going weak side to strong you got Clowney because Clowney's always been a weak side edge rusher Clowney next to Derek Brown ideally this is with Derrick Brown not hurt next to asan Robinson next to either a combination of DJ Johnson Leota whoever they have on that other Edge then moving back to the linebackers you got on the weak side Kevin Wallace in the middle and sha on the strong side that would allow our linebackers to be freed up to fly around sideline to sideline making tackles rather than always trying to get off of these 350 pound monster offensive lineman Tony something you say they're too light in the pants to do that [ __ ] so a 4-3 I think would make a lot more sense and I'm praying that once evero was gone next year because with the defense looking as bad they are now he's not going to [ __ ] be here hope we switch back to a 4-3 because we've never done well in a 34 never going back to John Fox when he tried it Ron when he tried it and now here we are again we're over a million in trying a 3 four so I think a 4-3 would make much more sense that would allow our linebackers to be freed up to fly sideline to sideline instead of watching these running backs as soon as the running back gets to the not even the second level the one and a half level they're gone because then we're relying on corners and safeties make all of our tackles boys let me know what you think about this with that four3 defense would it look any better keep the spirits up love the podcast keep pounding Brothers thank you so much for the call E RH Dux 4L in the chat says you need a good true nose tackle for the 34 you it's kind of like Groundhog's Day a little bit you remember when we cut that guy last year at the beginning at training camp who was the big guy I can't remember his name he always look sleepy and high but he had a rookie season that was somewhat promising he was a big he was like the only guy that was 330 pounds and we cut him and then went light in the middle on that 34 you know are we like we're just here again on this I think the 34 is like hard to find the the players the composition of players you need to do it um those outside linebackers have to be defensive ends that can also play out in the field and coverage and that's just hard to find I mean those are just unicorn type players where you get a Julius Peppers who can play in either situation um three fours you know the way you beat them is run the ball at them I'm just I mean to go back the call too is not seeing the rookie Tevin Wallace out there Trevon Tevin whatever his name is linebacker you know you want see some action for these guys um you know asan Robinson wasn't great no one was you know I mean he might be I mean we've already mentioned it is uh AO if the defense continues I mean he's going to be whether or not you think he's good or whatever you think he's one of the top coordinators in the league some people said it doesn't matter he will be a sacrifice at the end of the season if his defense continues to play like that how many years does it take to get evero a guy competent group of guys to run his system this is 's third season with the Panthers right or yeah third yeah right didn't he come he didn't come with Frank Reich he was no he did come he came with Frank right oh okay so this would be his second season okay all right uh next call yo yo yo yo yo what's going on T3 it's Anthony from Charlotte hope y'all boys are having a good Tuesday um beautiful weather here in charl today it's about 2:12 p.m. um just wanted to call in and talk about some stuff all right now um you know first and foremost um you know I was a big Bryce guy um you know when we drafted him before the draft I I mean maybe he could still be a good quarterback here I just don't know if his future is still here um we'll see um and the roster just not good um I'm already kind of looking into draft evaluations and that stuff just because last year we weren't able to do that and um you know this is my opinion whether or not what whatever happens with Bryce young this year I still think knowing this is this is what David Pepper is gonna be thinking but not necessarily what I think he should do I think he's going to be thinking about a quarterback if Bryce young doesn't succeed but I think best option lowkey for this team actually highkey would be if we get the number one or two pick you trade back and you just get like those extra first round picks maybe even a player just do what like Seattle did with the Jamal Adams trade uh or um the Jets did with Jamal Adams trade or the uh dolphins with lar tunel and Bradley chub and all that that's how they were able to get Jaylen Wadd and Tyreek Hill and all this um or what the Texans did you know with the Des wat like there's many options and the team needs ammunition to fill out the roster um second thing I do want to say though is that if they you draft a quarterback and still I don't know who I don't know who the leader of this guy is I kind of like all I I think all these guys could be solid and granted I don't really care how good of a prospect you are in college I don't really think that matters anymore right I think you're just looking for trade um if they do draft a quarterback then you got to believe that the offensive line and you got to hope they go after a real guy that can separate down field you gotta hope the offensive line is good enough and that wasn't the problem on Sunday my take with Bryce young is simply I just think he's mentally scarred I just think he looks lost out there he's not believing in what he SE and another thing is too I I don't know if Canal is um and this is some fans were mentioning this when they were watching film I don't think Canalis let Baker change the line of scrimmage last year the play at the line of scrimmage last year either Canal has got to be able to give uh brght like three to five play calls you can change at the line of scrimmage because when you're getting an all out uh uh cover zero look you gotta be able to change that I'll be back for a quick part two all right here is Anthony and Charlotte with part two hey guys so I got cut off here um but quick so yeah he's got to be able to change the line of scrimmage looks and like you know I still don't like how I's on his own I mean I don't think he had a great game like I I think all the other four of them are fine though I just don't think he had some moments but for the most part the offensive line does look severely improved um which is crazy because that was it was awful last year so at least that's improved um and you know we're just in this situation where there's a lot of aathy from this ban base you know I see fans are potentially going to be wearing paper bags on their heads at the game good honestly like dude whatever it pissed pepper off [ __ ] that guy pissed him off I I know we have had this conversation and I whatever people tell me about oh we shouldn't be blaming the head man for all this that's fine Dy that's your opinion but for me personally no because clearly you know if Cody's theory is true about oh David peer forced uh so and so to draft right young then yeah [ __ ] David keer for that as well so like he's not out of the woods with anything in my opinion okay I know he's going to be the owner I know he's not going anywhere I know that's why fans don't blame him and that's fine you know that's the reality whatever okay whatever but we're in a situation where this team may be worse than last year and you know I haven't really talked about this much I did in spaces but canala seemed a little too uh you know nice for my liking I I think keer didn't hire guys like wils and Harbaugh because he would make he would he would feel like he doesn't have power over them like they're more powerful men which again it's just like whatever I still think Canal can turn it around it's one week listen we're all overreacting it was a horrible game horrible horrible horrible um and I think everyone on paper should know that the defense was bound to um take a step back um that was just evident right the defense was bound to uh take a step back and um you know that that was gonna happen so I wasn't surprised about that whatsoever um but what I am what I am surprised about is just how flat the team came out and um you know that was that was crazy um so these are all just things to think about I mean you know it's only one week but there's just no Fai in um my fandom anymore really like I really just don't know what to hang my hat on at this point um you know it's tough man this is now year seven of this straight up [ __ ] we got ourselves into it's a long time and you know we're not wishy-washy fans we're just sick of this [ __ ] Anthony from charot you know the tagline keep [ __ ] pounding boys um we're not Wishy wasy fans you know is anybody who's calling in and chatting here has been here for a long time man they've been doing this you know the we're family like we've known each other through all of this for so it's just ex it's just been a long exhausting Road you know is um and we went into this season CK as I didn't set any expectations of success being I just didn't want my Sundays to be miserable right like every Sunday like I was like oh I can't wait to go to work tomorrow happy Monday happy Monday because football is six days away that's how it feels like on Monday for a while it's just getting um you know it's just you know it's hard it's hard on us um it's crazy when you open the YouTube chat comments from after the game the post game and lions fans are coming in there and going keep your Channel up I know never oh it's not going to change until the ownership changes sorry that's what you know it's just like oh gosh oh gosh oh gosh all right you know what I think it's time I think it's time for somebody who always makes me happy in their own chaos 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from a can of paint BR but I do now that's love [ __ ] so what the [ __ ] I see going on in this [ __ ] community and how the [ __ ] fan base is so goddamn divided over a [ __ ] QB what this because you didn't get the QB you wanted so you going [ __ ] M to complain for four years until he's out of here are you kidding me bro that's some [ __ ] [ __ ] bro I leave and I leave off social media and and Twitter for [ __ ] three four five months bro and I come and I see some some some [ __ ] [ __ ] going on in three [ __ ] and C3 BR and that [ __ ] BR [ __ ] tagging other [ __ ] in C3 Gregory that's some [ __ ] [ __ ] BR I stand for that [ __ ] G you supposed to be C3 and you over here [ __ ] making other C C3 members look bad bro donkey the day goes to you [ __ ] because you made yourself look like a [ __ ] jackass bro C3 is a [ __ ] brand that's built off [ __ ] love unity [ __ ] dedication [ __ ] and not only you make C3 look like a bunch of [ __ ] dumb asses you made the owner the Creator my white Italian brother look like a [ __ ] jackass bro fine with that [ __ ] G now I've been quiet for too [ __ ] long man I I got a lot to [ __ ] say G all right he's got one more call and then we'll figure out what this is all about [ __ ] G man now I don't know what the [ __ ] is going on lately but it's some [ __ ] [ __ ] going around and I could I can sniff I can smell it I can smell the [ __ ] [ __ ] in the air man tagging other [ __ ] C3 members bro you're a [ __ ] C3 member that's [ __ ] [ __ ] [ __ ] bro that's weirdo [ __ ] tagging CK D Money [ __ ] all that's why I blocked your ass bro you wasn't tagging me was you you were not tagging me brother is he talking to me how dare you bro yeah I don't know I didn't tag any P up body on Twitter with anything what is he talking about T3 is a [ __ ] brand and right now we look like a bunch of [ __ ] idiot and I no one's gonna say I'm a [ __ ] said I'll speak the [ __ ] up bro we look stupid bro especially on social media bro I'm over here on on un 2020 show over here getting called out being a C3 member and whatnot this and this and that what the fuck3 is a brand that was built off respect unity love dedication bro a lot of [ __ ] put a lot of work at to C3 they do you know how much work goes into what they these Tuesday nights these these freefor alls these guys holding the [ __ ] spaces consistently pickle these skills demoney all the [ __ ] do you know how consistent they are in that [ __ ] this is professional I have no idea this is wild to me bro this is asine a fan base is so divided is I'm [ __ ] disgusted over a QB BR this is wild man [ __ ] on suicide watch because we lose one [ __ ] game goddamn bro we got a rookie head coach bro we knew what the [ __ ] this is go what it was going into this [ __ ] season bro give him some goddamn time let him build a [ __ ] culture let him develop the whole [ __ ] team man you know who the [ __ ] this is man and this is just a warmup bro this is just a warmup to the [ __ ] warmup bro I I ain't even got my [ __ ] calls in yet but this will be [ __ ] play and all my calls will be playing my white Italian brother but something must be said and I I guess I gotta [ __ ] speak up and [ __ ] say it bro respect the [ __ ] brand and shut the [ __ ] up it's C3 we it's a professional [ __ ] brand and show [ __ ] respect to other content creators as well bro God damn man you know who this is man I'll be calling back man it's all love my white Italian brother I I got you g a C3 for [ __ ] life dog [ __ ] y'all talking about well I spoke too early when I said every time gbab calls it makes me happy I don't know what what the hell he's talking about I didn't tag obv whatever the hell you guys were getting into with Monty today I mean I had a conversation with Monty today and yeah Mon's insulted me online so I'm I'm match his energy and throw him right back but I didn't tag anybody in our conversation like I I don't know what he's talking about get I didn't get any notifications other than what I saw from just flying around but um I I'll address this [ __ ] I'll address all this [ __ ] uh and I don't even know what's fully going on I really don't um CU I'm not going to spend I'm not going to breathe life into things that aren't true like just you know what I'm saying breathing life into [ __ ] that just continues to run and [ __ ] right so um I know this is that I've gotten on this [ __ ] podcast for 11 years I've interacted on Twitter with people for 11 years over 11 years and just go look at what I've said it's all there all the tape is here and if you don't think there's anything but good intentions on uh my end as the creator of this podcast then um I don't know what to say about that but I do know this is that I'm not going to spend my day arguing over this [ __ ] with each other like all this crazy stuff so um just like CK said earlier in the show even to you G baby is like uh let's be respectful um and yeah C3 I guess is a brand and what the that brand is is a brand of fans and that is uh no uh this this show and our Twitter communities and whatever organically has emerged on its own which I still continue to put C3 in your damn username I don't care I love it I love seeing that but I really do to be fair please please if you're going to rep C3 be respectful you can voice your opinion all of that that's fine but don't don't go to a level of just Petty insults like there's been a few people I'm not going to name names that have repped that you know that that username and they go online and they say some really ignorant things you you know and and that gets associated with C3 all it takes is one person to make it look like C3 is a is something that it's not and there is something that I will say without question okay here's the thing I am fully aware that we are a panel of four white guys I get that but we have a community that is diverse from a lot of different regions across the country across the world we do not care who you are or what you believe we love the Carolina Panthers and this needs to be something that does need to chill out like at all levels and and and here's the thing you don't like somebody don't go on to again Greg no offense I know that this was something that was started that was you know you you do you know but my point being is there are people that get involved and they say some real dumb stuff and that that falls back on C3 and now as of now now D exactly as of now like that's the the belief system that people have about C3 is that we are a white a right-wing podcast that we believe we want Trump in office we want all the you know that's not the ca we don't care what your beliefs are I welcome you I know that if we sat down with any one of you people in the chat anybody we would be able to find common ground and have a good time it does not matter what you believe especially if you're a lady so pleas For the Love of All That is Holy I know social media is anonymous and it makes you feel Brave and it makes you feel like stop with this madness of constant vitriol it's just not healthy for you or for the people actually on the receiving end of that vitriol please I think C you know I've just gotten to the point where I'm not arguing with people period MH I'm getting divorced guys look put it out there I'm tired of arguing I'm tired of arguing in my house tired of arguing on the internet tired of all this man my butt was at work today and driving my kids around the planet it was not exerting energy into beefing with people on Twitter that's for sure um I don't know what's crazy I just don't understand how personally is uh I think that if you're not with the herd like it's just like all of a sudden it's like your L your ideas don't fit in so then you're this you're that you're this you're that and I don't know man I don't even have I said this the only thing I I got up there and I said this to Monty and to all y'all say this I'm a panther fans in the panther State what else is there to [ __ ] talk about what else is there really to talk about the Panthers stink and I like the Panthers that's what this podcast is going to be until they don't stink other than that I am planning on doing an entire episode where it's all Michael Jackson quotes since we have Michael Jackson so it doesn't matter if you're black or white see what you did there yeah there you go fine see uh thank you any Michael Jackson gets burned we're gonna go anytime Michael Jackson gets uh gets a stop we're gonna be uh Billy Jean not my lover Bryce young not my lover we're doing a whole show in Michael Jackson quotes that's going to happen that is GNA happen let's see uh let's go to D from St Sanford yo my C3 family D sord North Carolina shout out to the great Tony dun shout out to my homie my brother Cody La shout out to CK Co the king of Madden simulations shout out to bat daddy the legion my brother from another mother these here skill shut the hell up P the pickle and the whole family the whole Legion from the bottom of my heart I want to say thank you thank you thank you thank you just about over a week ago my son attempted to kill himself getting cut from his community college junior college basketball team and I kept it to myself and I tried to be the same c3d money that that y'all love to have and it was it was hard on so many levels and I remember last night I just couldn't keep it in I was getting sensitive about different things and I had to speak on it to the legion to the family and the love and prayers and the support that this family gave to me I'll forever being dead I'll ride with y'all to the wheels fall off I had five medical professionals even one last night telling me it's prepare for the worst said I was about to lose my son my first born and today he woke up yeah he's got a pretty decent road to to being back right but I thank God he's here and I thank God for the C3 family and family I know we've had a rough week in these social medias a rough day and some people were challenged and we had a rough rough game Sunday see3 this family man that's what it's all about and I'm always going to have a love and respect respect and admiration for you all Tony dun you're one of like kind of like my Inspirations of what I want to be when it comes into this podcasting World Cody I just admire your fight every day just a group an immensely talented group of people and a community that shows love man y'all ever need me for anything I'm here for y'all but just to venture to something Panthers just not to have it all on me this week a new week we can start to fight back from what we didn't do he got a little he got to get his ke pounded in I don't know where the message got cut off but my son's going to be all right T3 is g to be all right the Panthers are going to be all right Tony I know you're going through some deep things my brother but you going to be all right strong Will Survive and the Good Will endure and you are both my friend C3 we shall get through all adversity with our football team with our platform with everything we facing cuz we got each other keep pound keep pound um prayers what I will definitely do is convey this information to my mother who is a professional prayer Warrior like a real prayer Warrior like this woman will get the nuns involved up in this joint convin so D um glad to hear your son is um better today than he was yesterday um I think this is like here can we just focus this for one hair on U how [Music] unimportant the [ __ ] we argue about in football truly is MHM um and how real uh the world is at times for a lot of people um that are listening that are talking that are doing all this so don't sweat the small stuff you know um cuz when the big stuff comes around you're going to want that emotional cache of energy uh to handle it um and oddly oddly I started this podcast because I was tired of arguing politics um so for all the people who anybody thinks that there is a political Bend to this uh podcast uh the political Bend was to be apolitical apolitical I been I I've been walking through my life lately with less news like I you know I'm just going to start I mean I've been working look I mean we're all going to have I mean I'm not celebrate myself here but I mean I'm not even doing a good job of working on myself where the hell am I going to control about half of this crap you know so trying to eat better trying to work out more trying to spend more time with my family my M you know things like that and uh I will watch these damn Panther games it's like the only bad thing I'm going to choose to do on purpose uh let's see what we got next what's good C3 uh Max hman call from New York terrible game on Sunday rooe my entire day rooing my entire week so far especially now that Derek Brown got hurt um so I really think um just listen to post game a little late but Cody agree with you bro we got to do something about this Bryce young boy I will say though one Improvement was our offensive line did a pretty good job it was only when Bryce young didn't know how to read a NFL defense which is similar what Nick Sabin said against alurn when he was there I think we need to go back to that ground and pound we did with h Sam darnold Devonte Freeman and juuba go back to that day when um who is the coach of Steve wils [ __ ] Legend should be our head coach right now but David [ __ ] sucks um but yeah you know looking forward to winning next week um we'll see thanks guys for everything you do appreciate it uh CK I think your camera died yeah I don't know I was trying to figure it out what's going on here let's go to another call appreciate that um actually only thing I can ever think about now with Bryce young is the when we think about his size or anything like that or when remember when he looked like he was like going to middle school when he went to training camp with that book bag on or whatever there's an old guy that is a great YouTuber and he used to dress up as Ray Lewis and then do these videos like about other people and he did one about how they needed to stop Steph Curry and like you can't let this child out there be destroying men like Steph Curry was you got to buckle down you gotta start strap up your chin strap and get low in the base and put you and he always said this stuff he said one time he said about Steph Curry he said you're in the locker room popping aspiring an ibuprofen taking ice bath trying to recover and this little guy is sitting crisscross applesauce eating chicken nuggets on the floor of the locker room with his door explore of Lunch Box singing Do You Want to make a rainbow or something or no it's Olaf and I always think about Bryce y get the locker room now eating chicken nuggets sitting crisscross applesauce with his Olaf uh lunchbox Do you want to build a r make a rainbow that was a legendary video man was so funny um hey boys hope everybody's having a great night tonight uh greetings from beautiful Idaho um hey I uh I won't be a join I'll listen to you guys tomorrow night um but I did want to chime in I kind of got drowned out and cut out technical difficulties um probably better cooler heads prevail after that [ __ ] show of a team we call the Carolina Pussycats um but hey I uh I know I bet everybody's G be having a debate about vention Bry and St dton and that's fine it GES us something to talk about after a therapy session Sunday thank you boys um I'm just wondering did canal his hat as far as what he sees with Bry and and hear me out here um every great quarter back in the history of the NFL seems like they have that couple shitty games and it doesn't matter if if Tom Brady or pton Manning even U you know go back to Marino days they all have that one shitty game and you know what their coach did they benched them in the fourth quarter just get them out of their head and sit down and watch the game and we didn't we didn't bench Bryce is that Canal saying D Mr peer this guy is not your franchise quarterback we're gonna play him for the first four or six games I'm gonna drive the point down your [ __ ] Brass Ball you see that he's not the guy and then we're gonna start working with plumber and we're going to put in Dalton and uh yeah I don't know tell me if I'm up in the night maybe I'm just a code reader and have broken Ted lass's mindset uh thanks for what you guys do the only reason I'm a Panthers fan still after 30 years is finding you guys thank you thank you and yeah Cody we're gonna turn this around we're gonna have a winning season one of these years when you're here one boys one day we will be on this podcast and the Panthers will have won one game and then they will win another game and then at the end of the season they will won more games than they had lost and then for season in a row yes if we could live to see that um you know it's a to me I don't know where are a lot of these conversations about Bryce young being benched for the long term or anything or actually I haven't seen any coverage nationally of the Panthers you know I kind just Googled some stuff around but I mean really you're going to you're going to go out there and you're going to play this guy 17 games MH and if you win one game you win one game why would you even want to win four games with Andy Dalton if you couldn't win them with four games with Bryce because what is that going to do for you next year you know when you're trying to adjust continue and different things like this um you're going to have to play this hand we got to play this hand see what Scott said right Scott says Bryce doesn't need to be benched he needs a stool he needs a step stool he doesn't need a bench his little feet will be swinging uh all right let's see what we got next I don't even know if Showtime no more but it's Lou from for Myers and was I wrong to put in the call at 126 no F no what did I have little face yes was that little face Justified yes because we got blown out 40 to 10 like I didn't even have to watch the whole game to know what was going to happen bro like is New Orleans good yes like we not going to sit there and Li because if they were a bad team I don't think that would happen but some people I better not see here next year jonath Jonathan Mingo can have a thousand yard season I still want him gone I don't care what are we gonna make the Ming get on DJ Moore where's this hate for Jonathan Mingo all right man you know what I'm saying like there's not too much to say bro like I say we trade Bryce to the Raiders I'd be happy if we get a fifth round he garbage we can get a fifth round and then we'll have the first round for this year and we can get you know cam Ward or whatever we are it's so bad that we're already talking about draft and I ain't gonna talk about it no more but like Dave Canales bro like I don't watch the interviews and the Bryce young interview we thought his media speech would went better but no he done dropped a 100 you knows and I'm sorry Bryce young I don't know and clearly you don't know because you out here throwing interceptions you can't throw touchdowns you just simple as this you cannot throw you are a mighty mini running back you cannot throw as simple as that put in Andy Dalton if y'all want to say Bryce Young's career bench him bench him and at least we can get some trade value and then he'll pop out for one good year and this and that back to Greg's point this supposed to be the QB Whisperer why is he still ass why why did Bryce Young Come Back worse did he's like hey Bryce young we're gonna be even worse this year okay is that what he's Whispering what are we doing at practice Derek Brown's hurt bro I can't handle it no more I'm not watching the rest of the NFL I only give a damn about my fantasy team bro that's it br that's it bro who who throws the ball on the first play what happened to asserting the run it's like every head coach's first play is a freaking run he's like oh yeah bro Bryce is gonna show him that he's him and he did he showed him that he was him big [ __ ] garbage I'm sorry y'all bro I'm just still hurt from that lost bro all right and he's got 14 more seconds yeah yeah I was wondering if you guys going to be n no taking uh become a free agents after the season cuz I think a lot of people need to declare the free agency go somewhere else after this crap okay all right uh thanks for those calls for so far tonight those are the cat calls tonight uh you can call in after the game at 252 228 598 for the post game this week is we host the Chargers the Friday free-for-all Cody will be back in full effect hosting the Friday free-for-all we've also got the Mad Madden simulation coming out this week plus uh more content coming uh your way uh let's move on a little bit uh and just talk Chargers briefly I want to bring this up actually I was reading this as as we were listening to calls looked at the mailbag that Darren Gant asked the old guy mailbag um and I like this story about um here I scroll too far as the question was this is hey Darren uh this is from by the way this question is Chase in Greensboro North Carolina he writes into Panthers mailbag said thanks for the awesome t-shirt blah he said losing Derek Brown for the season is about as heartbreaking as a blow to this defense as it gets I'm still hopeful about the new coaching staff their long-term plan you know the old adage you learn more in a defeat than in your win so I will continue to hold on to every ounce of hope that this coach's staff is building something special here again after such such a tough start to the season is there anything positive you able to take away from this game maybe Bryce young finding the endzone as a runner for the first time his career that's all I could come up with um I actually would contend that a lot of the pieces on the offensive line could be the considered positive takeaway if there was anything good that you can find on this Derek Gant writes this former I like this part former general manager M Marty Hy was a newspaper writer before he was a football executive and once when confronted with a Confluence of terrible luck like this weekend it may have been what when Steve Smith broke his ankle in week one of' 04 when they were trying to follow up a Super Bowl run shook his head and said that was a real grenade down the pants he could put paint a picture paint a word picture that one and there were some guys you just can't replace basically Derek Brown losing Derek Brown is a real grenade grenade down the pants hopefully the PIN wasn't pulled and we can get it out of that pants leg fast enough to where this season uh wasn't uh completely or explod destroyed right um I thought this was also interesting um this was John ma John from Matthews North Carolina said uh he want to know um your take uh he said Canalis noted that the locker room was somber following the game and as two pressers sense the shellacking have taken on a noticeably quieter and less optimistic tone don't get me wrong I know it's hard to be an optimist bully after losing 37 in your first game as a head coach but it's been noted that they want dogs or whatever you want to spell it and dogs bark and get mad when back in a corner I feel a bit of a disconnect in the approach just based on what I'm seeing and hearing and I fear that may leak into further weeks um he says it really is uh is it really as low as it looks or or a guy's mad and determined and I like this response he said oh man it's too way it's way too early for the Cam Newton sideline body language police to be settling up and writing again uh somber is probably the appropriate immediate reaction to one like this some days you just have to eat it move on it doesn't taste good but as the great Larry Merchant titled his classic sports book every day you take another bite and I get it people are upset G rights emotions have been invested in this team and those are more valuable than money so fans are hurt too but throwing the furniture around to release anger uh of the moment doesn't really fix anything it just gives you more to clean up obviously the results matter most but the approach by those in the locker room after that one seemed appropriate to me there's no complacency in there they are well aware they are well aware um all right well there what they need to be aware of is this that the Carolina Panthers are hosting the Los Angeles Chargers coached by former Carolina Panther Jim Harbaugh for Carolina Panther quarterback at one point it will be at 1M kickoff uh the Chargers are currently favored by 6 and a half and the over under is 39 um Justin Herbert had an efficient game at 17 for 26 and 144 yards and touchdown um they were able to Lad Boni by the way former Georgia running uh wide receiver and got his first touchdown five catches 39 yards but JK Dobbins was the story in their rushing attack 10 rushes 135 yards in a touchdown and if you look at the uh the Carolina Panthers team uh we were not able to do any of those things against the saint there is one positive takeaway the Carolina Panthers is six And1 versus the Chargers historically so that's good news that's good news law of averages kind of says that we're due to lose the game to him then I would also say the law of what we saw last week would to say that we were due to lose this game um Carolina I don't think is going to be built to play from behind this year right now I mean they can be but it's going to have to take um some growth before that can happen like B I don't think Bryce is broken I think if there is somebody mentally that's going to be able to handle this I think it's him I don't think they've put him in such untenable situations that he's like irreparably damaged as a player I think he just has to go out there and win it would help um and he had a shitty game he had a shitty shitty game but he's got 16 more to be less shitty you know um I'm not sure I'm looking forward to playing this defense though um and seeing if we can really get the things going against the team that's got Derwin James and khil Mack who had a sack and one and a half sacks last week khil Mack still playing poses over there they're trying to reassert themselves as a defense and they played they made Gardner menu panic and look like the menu that people say he is not the menu I know he is somebody better than yeah dude uh dude the ball accidentally thre the ball behind him uh trying to pull a ball back into his yeah from from and it did oh God it looked bad there for a minute um so uh we got another call that came in let's see what we got here see3 family you know I owe you better than that it'd be such a disservice after what y'all been for me had to get that energy that we also need all right let's stop acting like the Chargers to Ste s incredible and impeccable the Raiders are not that great of a team their defense is supposed to be a little bit better but if you look at how that game went the Raiders gave Chargers opportunities to take that game and the Chargers finally fell into it yes they had a very strong running game in that game but let's be quite honest if we dig our feet in the ground strap them T chin straps and knock a man in the dirt we can slow down some of that make Herbert throw the ball they lost a lot of them weapons last year their continuity is as much theirs as ours is new coach even though he's experienced but a whole lot of turnaround and Personnel first start I feel like we're going to get the opportunity to run the ball at a higher end better clip Chupa hubber will be running strong running hard miles Sanders and anybody else I think it's going to be great but Bryce there's a lot of work being put on him right now can't convince me that it ain't you don't have to believe in him I don't care if you believe in them but this is the option that we got right now and I believe that it's going to come back better than it did last week call me crazy call me stupid I don't care but at the end of the day there's no logical reason and I said to when the schedule came out and I'm saying it now there is no reason why we can't beat the charges and yes you're probably tired of hearing oh well it's week one it was just week one well it was just week one Panthers had traditionally in a lot of areas have always started slow if you really go back to it we've won the coming off the back end of the season quite a few times Bry might didn't have the game in L says he doesn't have it this week if you want to give up Faith and Hope you can but as far as I remember there 52 other men on that team 52 men that can stand up as far as I imagine it I see it like that final scene in glory on the beach where they knew or felt and everybody felt they didn't have a chance in the world and they came out and they fought and they left it on the line and they've been immortalized in history and that's the kind of approach that they got to take they've got to sit there with their back against the wall and decide to fight back in family I believe they will so oh like I said it might be rough now but if you don't want to be with us now don't come to the parade way to bring it D way to bring a positive attitude about potential of this game not being over before it started at end of the show um couple of things though I mean these aren't necessarily good things to follow up there is uh the Chargers only allowed one Red Zone play last week the Raiders had one play in the red zone and it was a strip for a fumble at that point oh wow back Leo ma that's kind of a crazy stat um on top of that uh another thing that's is it says this is this is a writer he says this the offensive line for the Chargers of work in progress but rookie right tackle Joe alt shined against Max Crosby um and on the other side of the ball the Chargers defense put plenty of pressure on Raiders quarterback Gardner menu you know now um on top of that or I think uh that Jim harbar is historically known for having good results early with teams yeah 111 by the way guys uh my number um so you look at that and uh right now um I think this is man if you're the Chargers you got to be really happy about playing the Panthers right now yeah I mean you know it's trying to get off to a start in a division with the new coach and you know and getting Herbert Herbert uh was they had they passed the ball 25 times and ran the ball 26 times you know so it's not like the oh we need Justin Herbert to do everything right out the gate and their defense has dealt with injuries a lot over the last couple years right so it's like they've never had all the pieces together and uh and not that there are some dominant team right now but Justin Herbert is good there's some Talent there's going to be some there's some Talent on that defense and if they can get that running game going they can give guys like Quinton Johnson and lad mcon time to improve his players right and this is a good matchup for them heading all the way across the country favorable matchup for them um tough draw for the I mean every game is going to be a tough draw for the Panthers until we look a little bit better um or at anything better and I don't know and I guess I'll finish on this point because this is about all I've got to I think I don't know what else we really could just beat the drama on all this stuff I don't know if we were just that bad on Sunday or if it was we got the breaks beat off of us right in the beginning like you got you came out it's the first round and they got you wobble not wobbly they knocked you down in the first round you know you got two knockdowns I think it was almost like it just went so bad so fast there was no way of coming out of it um or very difficult for a team right that has zero with a with a brand new head coach with a quarterback who has very little experience with a team that's never played together like maybe if you're like Tom Brady or something and you get knocked in the mouth in the first quarter I mean even Aaron Rogers and them couldn't come out of it last night yeah you know um I don't think look I'm not ready to say R is bust yet I'm not ready not ready uh no need to say it we got 16 more games to find out right uh we do need to make our picks right oh yeah um oh I wrote them down from last week oh God did I I think it was just me and uh me and Greg obviously nobody had the score right but I had the Saints winning Oh I thought you uh were're going to do the no I thought you did the Panthers cuz you thought everybody else is going to choose no I had uh it was uh Tony Saints 2117 Greg can you write these down cuz you're good at keeping I'll keep them too this is week one yeah gotta uh week one um we didn't get your picks yeah I was gone last week okay um Saints 217 uh Tony uh that didn't I had the saint Steelers oh by the way thanks CK for that Steelers tip because I made it in all my pick thems and uh it was a winner so I went Saint Steelers and commanders so I went to uh M1 who was our other one oh oh yeah that's it I went two and one CK went three and0 no the B yep uh and Cody went one and two want to I'm just gonna say he thought the Falcons was going to beat the Steelers right ye no he had a Panthers Steelers and commanders well since I wasn't here I'm just going to go with my picks from the pick them League that so uh I'm pretty sure I got see how we only did three games we just did the NFC South because two we played two the Saints and the Panthers played each other so there's only two games okay don't know why I couldn't figure that out let's see uh my pick them I'm pretty sure I got all three of them let's see I picked no I picked the Falcons I missed that game um but I got the other two I picked the Saints and I picked the bucks so I'm two in one all right um I'm starting this off I'm picking the Chargers uh to win this game and I think it's going to be um 24 to 16 246 Chargers uh CK who you got um I refused to think that this team has another performance like it did um pick on to win I'm not incred confident in this but I'm going to say the Panthers bounce back I'm not saying it's going to be convincing um I believe that this might be a low-scoring affair so I'm going to say 13 to 10 Panthers 10 Panthers Greg what you got uh I'm gonna go Chargers um this is actually uh on the when the NFL picks this is one of the two games the NFL analyst had them winning was the Chargers game but I'm going to take the Chargers in this game and I'm kind of with on this I think it's going to be a low scoring game I'm going go a little higher I'm going to say uh 1710 about that 1710 how did I was reading your mind there 1710 okay next up um who is around town let's see Tampa Bay is heading to Detroit um man isn't that a rematch from last year didn't they go there last year in the playoffs and lose um no after round one they beat the Eagles and then I think they had to go to Detroit right I'm picking you know I picked against the Lions last week because I thought that the Rams are a team that could sleep that people man Cooper cup went off they were winning that game all the way to the end picking the Lions to win over the Bucks here we don't have to pick a score for these games Okay um CK lions or uh bucks bucks are on the road I mean the lions look good I I got to go Lions here all right Greg yeah three for three I'm going Lions too all right and next we have who is Atlanta play uh Atlanta where are you I'm looking for it oh they go to Philly oh I think Atlanta wins that really yeah not me I didn't see a very convincing Philadelphia win against the Packers seon have four touchdowns three touchdowns maybe it was two he could have had a million it felt like yeah J you think the F Falcons um and is he hurt is is Herz hurt um saying he play he he play like he looks like he's slower than he's than he has his can't do that t tush push anymore it's not it does not work now and who you got Greg I got Philly too you know that tush push that at the end of the game that he fumbled on if he' to scored a touchdown I won 90 bucks I was like oh I'm about to win 90 and then he fumbled and who are we missing we're missing the Saints who are the Saints playing they go to Dallas oh uh I will take Dallas here TK Dallas yeah Greg I'm going Dallas that defense is pretty nasty um just quick look around the the league want to just do some see just surprising just kind of peek around the league uh oh can anybody I didn't see I need to go read about the Tyreek mess I didn't um I didn't follow any of that and if it was warranted or whatever and uh I had a Jags fan telling me I wish they would have thrown him in jail because there's no Magistrate on Sunday and he wouldn't have been up uh you know anything about it anybody know anything I mean it's I didn't watch the video but people are saying that it was power hungry you know officers okay it's hard to say um see you know the Cardinals went on the road against the bills and gave them a run for their money lost towards the end the Bears how about this uh Drake May uh with a game let's see if I can pull up his full stats here or his stats not Drake May Drake may he was 14 for 20 he had 93 yards passing and zero touchdowns but he becomes the first rookie quarterback selected number one overall to win his rookie debut since David Carr 202 with the Houston Texans how the hell did they win this game touchdowns oh they had didn't they have like a couple of pun like they had a pick six and a fumbled recovered for a touchdown I know that but beyond that I don't know how they scored the other ones who was it punt blocked uh for a touchdown uh the Bears dude the Bears got a field goal field goal touchdown will pass short left intercepted 43 yards so they had a pick six Aur touchdown from two field goals um and yeah that that their defense kept that game in Play I it's if they win it's not you know at least from what we saw it's not because of an offensive explosion all right um how about you know what I am I did I feel like we should just treat ourselves and we should go watch that Colts Texans game uh I didn't get to watch it I saw I heard that uh Anthony Richardson looked incredible like cam somebody said B look just like cam baby C he's got the zip on his arm like his arm like when he throws the ball he does the same cam does which is he puts every like it'd be the hardest ball to catch in the NFL just a missile like it could be a 10 yard pass and that dude's throwing it to like he's throwing through you to his grandmother in Arkansas yeah uh I remember somebody said uh Cam Newton could throw a football through a piece of plywood Justin field starting quarterback for uh the Pittsburgh Steelers going to Denver Robert Salah headline says this it does feel better to be 0 and one this year than 1 and0 last year referencing the idea that they lost the game but Aaron Roder they didn't lose a season makes sense um Daniel Jones oh how about the Giants struggles they got just shellacked if the Panthers wouldn't have gotten shellacked they would have been the toast of the town for everything MH um or the not the toast of the town and and uh let me see Wonder be the [ __ ] out of Cleveland yes yes and deshun Watson Karma has destroyed him Christian mcaffry was inactive last night uh news there um that could land the 49ers in some mess too yeah because they they said he was questionable they were almost leading people into the belief that he was going to be playing and then last he became an inactive um and so and the the guy who who saw like that was the backup for him I can't remember his name admitted that he knew he was going to be starting on Friday oh wow oh for like the gambling stuff and yeah um well he knew that he was gonna be starting on Friday um well that the gambling but it's also like a part of the injury reporting yeah I mean like we couldn't do our fantasy right yeah um Lamar Jackson not PR practice uh the opening portion of Monday's practice uh Derek Brown we talked about that Rome adun suffered MCL sprain in week one for the Bears um and Joker week to week uh for the Browns uh let's see are there any major Malik Willis will start oh by the way Jordan love MCL sprain he gonna miss some time that sucks they said he might play this week that he might yeah they said he might play this week that's crazy saying four to six weeks I mean that's but they haven't put them on pup so they're saying we're going to see who it is because right now it's uh Malik Willis will be the starting quarterback for the Packers um if he does but like the coach is saying if Jordan can't go um puka AA headed to injured reserve uh for four will miss a minimum of four weeks uh let's see are there any major other names that I see here think Jord went out of the game with an ankle injury too uh yeah let's see Bryce Hall suffered a 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gotten any uh anything to add of uh real value so I'm I'm going to leave my uh my words to myself at this point time my ASAP pick goes to the Carolina Panthers uh as they started 2024 season off uh with a pretty disheartening not pretty one of the most disheartening M I didn't know I did I checked out dude I mean I watched the game let me just tell you this is why the Panthers getting iced up is like I was already I was beyond bad like there was even a moment where I was mad boom 59 yard touchdown boom interception I went from just whatever game over I was not going to sit at this restaurant and watch this anymore so I said I'm going to go watch the second half somewhere else I left with one and a half minutes I felt like two minutes left in the fir in the second quarter I got there before the [ __ ] was over before like it was like two-minute drive 10 points how the hell they scored 10 points went from 20 to 30 I don't really remember anything in the second half because I feel like I just got blitzed and got up here um so my ice up pick goes to the Carolina Panthers um for putting a cruddy um week one performance out there you guys ice up you go to the locker room you ice up take that aspirin look at little Bryce young sitting crisscross applesauce eating his chicken nuggets in his Olaf out of his Olaf lunch boox and he said Do you want to build a rainbow yes we do build a rainbow next week a rainbow to happiness for Tony Dunn Carolina Panthers need to ice up um that's it we miss uh Cody and need back I got such a busy I had such a busy day A great productive day it's crazy that so many people on the internet didn't have fun today I got a killer workout in went for a I mean I was being super dad all over the place cook dinner talk class it's great all right my name is Tony dun C3 Panthers podcast brought to you by Carolina cat chronicles. comom we'll check you out on Tuesdays Greg thanks for hanging out with us CK always fun a pleasure absolutely um D de from 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