COULD POSSIBLY SWING THE ELECTION IN KEY SWING STATES. THE 2024 PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE FOR THE LIBERTARIAN PARTY. HIS CHASE OLIVER. HE COULD MAKE A DIFFERENCE, ESPECIALLY IN THE BATTLEGROUND STATES OF PENNSYLVANIA AND GEORGIA. NOW, AS FOR LIBERTARIANS IN 2016, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT PARTY'S NOMINEE GARY JOHNSON RECEIVED 4.4 MILLION VOTES NATIONWIDE IN THE 2020 ELECTION. THE NOMINEE JO JORGENSEN RECEIVED 1.8 MILLION VOTES RIGHT NOW. OLIVER IS ON THE BALLOT IN AT LEAST 34 STATES. AND JOINING US LIVE FROM THE SWING STATE, HIS HOME OF GEORGIA, THE LIBERTARIAN PARTY PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE CHASE. OLIVER CHASE. THANKS FOR BEING WITH US HERE ON THE HILL. >> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. LOOK FORWARD TO SPEAKING EVEN SPEAKING TO YOUR AUDIENCE TODAY. >> TELL ME WHAT YOUR GOAL IS. CHASE. YOU KNOW WHERE YOUR POLLING, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, HALF A PERCENT, ONE PERCENT, 2% NATIONWIDE. I JUST WENT THROUGH THE NUMBERS OF SORT OF WHERE LIBERTARIANS ABANDONED IN RECENT YEARS. I WANT I WONDER WHAT YOUR GOAL IS. >> WELL, FIRST AND FOREMOST, MY GOAL IS TO PROVIDE AN ALTERNATIVE TO VOTERS. THEY COULD ACTUALLY HAVE A CHOICE IN THE BALLOT REPRESENTS A LOT OF THE CONCEPTS THAT ACTUALLY FOUNDED THIS COUNTRY THAT MADE THIS THE ECONOMIC ENGINE OF THE WORLD, FREE MARKET PRINCIPLES, THINGS THAT ARE NOT GETTING FROM DONALD TRUMP WITH HIS ECONOMIC PROTECTIONISM, NOR FROM KAMALA HARRIS WITH HER PRICE CONTROLS. AND IT'S ABOUT TIME WE HAVE AN ALTERNATIVE ON THE BALLOT THAT ACTUALLY SPEAKS FREE MARKET PRINCIPLES. THE IDEAS OF LIMITED GOVERNMENT. AND WE'RE JUST NOT HEARING THAT FROM ANY OTHER CAMPAIGN. AND A LOT OF VOTERS WANT TO HEAR THOSE PRINCIPLES PUT GETTING OPTION ALL ACROSS THE COUNTRY. >> I WONDER WHYT HASN'T IS IT JUST SIMPLY 2 PARTY SYSTEM? AND THAT'S THE WAY THIS COUNTRY IS. >> WELL, YOU KNOW, I THINK VOTERS ARE CONDITIONED MUCH OF IT OUT OF FEAR TO PICK ONE SIDE OR THE OTHER OR THE LESSER OF 2 EVILS. BUT I REMIND VOTERS AS I TRAVEL AOSS THE COUNTRY THAT WHEN YOU KICK A LESSER OF 2 EVILS, YOU'RE STILL PICKING EVIL. AND THAT PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, I HEAR ALL THE I WOULD VOTE FOR YOU, EXCEPT YOU WOULD WHEN THEY'RE TAMPA EVIL, THOUGH. >> LIKE I PICKING EVIL. YOU THINK? I THINK MUCH OF WHAT THE 2 PARTY SYSTEM PROVIDES IS AN INVASIVE, OVERLY INTRUSIVE AND ABUSE OF STATE THAT INVADES OUR UP AND DOWN. YOU KNOW, FOR THE FEDERAL ALL THE WAY DOWN THE MOST LOCAL GOVERNMENTS. YEAH, WE WANT TO FIGHT BACK AGAINST THE ABUSES OF GOVERNMENT. >> BUT THEY'RE NOT GETTING FROM REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS WHO CONTINUE TO OW THE DEATHS, THE DEFICITS, THE WARS AROUND THE WORLD USING TAXPAYER DOLLARS. THERE'S PLENTY OF EVIL TO FIND THE REPUBLICAN AND DEMOCRATIC PARTY THAT HAS NOT BEEN ADDRESSED TO THE NATURE OF THIS BINARY 2 PARTY SYSTEM. >> SO HERE'S WHAT DONALD TRUMP AND KAMALA HARRIS CHASE. THEY BOTH HAVE RELEASED THEIR SOME OF THEIR ECONOMIC IDEAS JUST IN THE LAST 2 DAYS HERE. I WANT TO GET YOUR REACTION ON THE OTHER SIDE. >> AND WE'LL HAVE THE GREATEST SOVEREIGN WEALTH FUND. WE WILL BUILD EXTRAORDINARY NATIONAL DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS AND EVERYTHING FROM HIGHWAYS, AIRPORTS AND TRANSPORTATION, INFRASTRUCTURE. >> UNDER MY PLAN, WE WILL EXPAND ACCESS TO VENTURE CAPITAL. WE WILL SUPPORT INNOVATION HUBS AND BUSINESS INCUBATORS WE WILL GRACE. >> SMALL BUSINESSES. >> DO YOU THINK GENERALLY SPEAKING THAT EITHER OF THEM HAVE IT RIGHT GOING FORWARD? >> NO, I THINK BOTH OF THEM LOOK AT ECONOMIC ISSUES AND THINK THE SOLUTION IS GOING TO BE FOUND AND MORE GOVERNMENT INVOLVEMENT IN THE MARKETPLACE. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE OVERALL REDUCTION IN GOVERNMENT INVOLVED MARKETPLACE. LET'S LOWER THE COST OF DOING BUSINESS OVERALL. SO IT'S EASER TO CREATE A STARTUP INSTEAD OF HAVING TO INCREASE INCENTIVES FOR SMALL BUSINESS. LET'S JUST MAKE IT LESS EXPENSIVE TO START A SMALL BUSINESS ON THE GOVERNMENT. YOU KNOW, IF WE IF WE GOT GOVERNMENT OUT OF THE WAY, YOU WOULD SEE AN EXPLOSION JOBS, THE ECONOMY, THAT'S JUST NOT HAPPENING BECAUSE TOO OFTEN GOVERNMENT STIFLES THE INNOVATION. THEY STIFLE MARKETPLACE GROWTH AND THEY STIFLE SMALL BUSINESSES BECAUSE THEY GIVE ALL THE ADVANTAGES TO THOSE WHO LOBBY THEM. THE GIANT CORPORATE INTERESTS AT THE EXPENSE OF THE MOM AND POP. >> LET LET LET ME LEAVE YOU WITH THIS. JASON WEWERE LITTL SQUEEZE ON TIME BECAUSE WE CARRY SOME LIVE EVENTS. PENNSYLVANIA. IT COULD BE THE STATE THAT DECIDES THIS ELECTION. AND IN AT LEAST ONE RECENT POLL, YOU ARE RUNNING AT 2% AND THE KEYSTONE STATE. WE HAD OUR CALL FOR THE HELEN EMERSON COLLEGE THAT PULLED 950 PEOPLE IN PENNSYLVANIA AND DONALD TRUMP AND KAMALA HARRIS WERE SEPARATED BY VOTER. JUST TO SHOW YOU HOW HOW CLOSE THAT IS. IF YOU START MULTIPLYING THAT OUT, I WONDER IF YOU THINK. THAT YOU COULD POTENTIALLY TIP THE SCALES ONE WAY OR ANOTHER IN PENNSYLVANIA. >> WELL, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE GOALS LIBERTARIAN PARTIES HAD TO BE A DISRUPTOR OF THE 2 PARTY SYSTEM AND WHETHER IT'S ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. WE HOPE TO DISRUPT THIS ELECTION ENOUGH TO WHERE VOTERS CAN PROVIDE PROVIDE MORE CHOICES, THE BALLOT AND LET'S CHANGE THE WAY WE VOTE, RANK CHOICE VOTING. THERE WERE NOBODY'S THERE WOULD BE NO SO-CALLED SPOILER FACT. WE HAVE TO MAKE IT HURT IN THE 2 PARTY SYSTEM TO GIVE US THAT. >> CAN YOU CAN USE A REAL QUICK CHASE IF YOU END UP HELPING DONALD TRUMP OR KAMALA HARRIS, WHICH ONE YOU WOULD RATHER HELP. >> EITHER WAY, I DON'T FEEL LIKE