♪. DAVID: WELL CHINA HAWKS ARE SLAMMING TIM WALZ' LONG HISTORY OF TIES TO THE CCP, THE CHINESE COMMUNIST PARTY. JOINING ME NOW IS PETER SCHWEIZER, PRESIDENT OF THE GOVERNMENT ACCOUNTABILITY INSTITUTE. PETER, I WAS JUST TALKING, STEVE FORBES IS HERE, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT WHAT A NATIONAL TREASURE YOU ARE. YOU REALLY ARE A NATIONAL TREASURE. YOU DO DIGGING NOBODY ELSE DOES, AND WE CAN ALL USE IT, IT IS GOOD, SOLID INFORMATION. THIS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WITH WALZ, DIFFERENT FROM THE STUFF YOU DUG UP ABOUT THE BIDEN FAMILY. THAT WAS PRIMARILY FOR MONEY. THIS LOOKS LIKE HE IS JUST A TRUE BELIEVER, AM I WRONG? >> YEAH, NO, OR A FELLOW TRAVELER AT LEAST. NO, I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT. A COUPLE THINGS STAND OUT HERE, DAVID, THERE IS NOTHING INHERENTLY WRONG WITH HAVING AN EXCHANGE PROGRAM WITH CHINA. THE PROBLEM IS, HE A, ESSENTIALLY TRYINGS TO CONCEAL THE VOLUMEMENT OF THE CCP IN THE EXCHANGE PROGRAM THAT HE HAD. HE ORIGINALLY SAID REPORTED TO THE MEDIA ORIGINALLY SPONSORED BY HARVARD UNIVERSITY. HARVARD SAID NOT THE CASE. TWO HARVARD GRADUATES HELPED HIM. HE WAS MASKING THE FACT THAT THE TRIPS WERE FINANCED BY THE CHINESE COMMUNIST PARTY. IN THE 1990s HE BRAGGED BY THE FACT THEY WERE SUBSIDIZING THESE TRIPS. THE SECOND THING STANDS OUT ABOUT THE RELATIONSHIP, HE WAS TELLING AMERICAN STUDENTS CURIOUS THINGS. HE WAS TELLING THEM FOR EXAMPLE TO DOWNPLAY AMERICANIST WHEN THEY WENT TO CHINA. THE PURPOSE OF CULTURAL EXCHANGE IS TO LEARN FROM EACH OTHER. DAVID: THAT'S RIGHT. >> THE SECOND THING, THAT HE GAVE THIS RIDICULOUS ANALYSIS OF THE CHINESE COMMUNIST DICTATORIAL SYSTEM. HE SAID THERE IS NO POVERTY IN CHINA, HE TOLD THE STUDENTS BECAUSE THEY SHARE, UNLIKE IN THE UNITED STATES, THEY HAVE A SYSTEM OF SHARING. SO THAT'S REALLY THE BEGINNING OF IT. THESE TIES HAVE EXTENDED TO WHEN HE HAS BEEN POSITIVE GOVERNOR OF MINNESOTA. DAVID: IT IS A WONDERFUL SYSTEM IF YOU DON'T MIND GETTING RID OF YOUR SYSTEM EVERYBODY BEING EQUALLY POOR. NO FREEDOM. EVERYBODY IS EQUALLY POOR. IT WAS THE SAME IN CUBA. THERE WAS A LITTLE MORE MARKET MECHANISM IN CHINA WHEN DENG XIAOPING AFTER MAO, THEY HAD A GOT RUN FOR 10 YEARS. WHEN XI CAME IN IT WAS BACK TO THE MAO TALK. I WANT TO PUT UP DIAGRAM WE PUT TOGETHER. KAMALA HARRIS COULD MAKE A VEN DIE GRAHAM. THIS -- VENN DIAGRAM. THIS IS HOW THE OBSFUCATION WORK. WALZ WAS WORKING WITH CHINESE AMERICAN ASSOCIATION OF MINNESOTA UP ON THE LEFT OF THE SCREEN, THE TOP LEFT. THAT WENT OVER TO THE OVERSEAS CHINESE SERVICE CENTER. THEN THEY WERE, WERE HEARING FROM THE UNITED FRONT WORK DEPARTMENT IN CHINA AND THE REAL MASTER OF THE HOUSE WAS THAT OVERSEAS CHINESE AFFAIRS OFFICE. HAVE WE GOT THAT, I KNOW IT IS NOT A VENN DIAGRAM, APOLOGIES TO KAMALA HARRIS BUT IS THAT ABOUT RIGHT? >> YEAH, NO THAT IS EXACTLY RIGHT. LOOK ANY EXCHANGE PROGRAMS THAT EXIST WITH CHINA ARE RUN BY THE CCP AND BY THE UNITED FRONT GROUPS. THEY'RE DESIGNED TO EXPAND THE POWER OF THE CCP. THE PROBLEM WITH WALZ IS THIS JUST ISN'T ANCIENT HISTORY. WHEN HE WAS THE GOVERNOR OF MINNESOTA HE ACTUALLY GAVE A SPEECH TO UNITED FRONT GROUP IN MINNESOTA. HE WAS CURIOUSLY THE ONLY GOVERNMENT OFFICIAL THERE. THERE WAS NOBODY ELSE IN THE STATE OF MINNESOTA IN ANY OFFICIAL CAPACITY THAT WAS THERE. HE GAVE A KEYNOTE SPEECH AND WHAT HE DOES, HE WILL BRING UP HUMAN RIGHTS IN CHINA BUT HE ALWAYS, ALWAYS, DOES IT IN THE CONTEXT OF WELL WE HAVE THE SAME KIND OF PROBLEMS HERE IN THE UNITED STATES. DAVID: OH, YEAH. >> IN FACT HE MET WITH PREMIER LE, THE NUMBER TWO MAN IN CHINA IN 2016. HE RAISED THE ISSUE OF HUMAN RIGHTS BUT HE TOLD THE PREMIER OF CHINA, BUT DON'T LOOK TO US AS BEING A MODEL BECAUSE WE HAVE LOTS OF PROBLEMS TOO. THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT CHINA WANTS. DAVID: THAT IS THE SAME GARBAGE WE HEARD DURING THE SOVIET UNION FROM THEM AND FROM THE FELLOW TRAVELERS LIKE BERNIE SANDERS WHO WENT OVER TO THE SOVIET UNION. NO, YOU HAVE GOT PROBLEMS BUT WE DO TOO. IT IS BASICALLY THE SAME. IT ALL EVENS OUT. VERY QUICKLY WHAT IS THE CCP'S FRONT OFFICE, THE FOLKS IN BEIJING? WHAT DO YOU THINK THEY'RE INTERESTED IN FROM A GUY LIKE WALZ? >> OH, THEY'RE INTERESTED IN EYE HEAT AND CAPTURE. THE GOAL HERE TO HAVE SOMEBODY TO PROVIDE IN THEIR TERMS BIG HELP WITH A LITTLE BADMOUTH. THEY UNDERSTAND HE WILL HAVE TO CRITICIZE THEM FROM TIME TO TIME BUT REALLY WANT THEY WANT, DAVID, THEY WANT ACCESS TO OUR TECHNOLOGY, ACCESS TO OUR CAPITAL MARKETS, ACCESS TO OUR MARKET IN GENERAL TO SELL GOODS. IF YOU ADVOCATE POSITIONS IN THOSE AREAS AND CRITICIZE THEM FROM TIME TO TIME THEY THEY ARE EXTREMELY HAPPY. THAT IS WHAT THEY GOT FROM TIM WALZ. THEY WERE NOT HAPPY WITH DONALD TRUMP USING TARIFFS NOT FOR ECONOMIC PERSONS BUT POLITICAL PURPOSES. IF KAMALA HARRIS BECOMES PRESIDENT, HE WILL BECOME THE POINT PERSON FOR CHINA AND THAT