so how would you guys have played third and eight to Fourth and eight third eight to Fourth and eight uh I I probably would have run the ball yeah run the ball on third down yeah make it manageable and I I you know what I can't say that I I don't think that's a sound thought process yeah that's what I I know Army does that well they run the ball anyways but they when they when they plan out their scenarios they just anticipate okay we're going to go forward and fourth down like almost every time so we treat it like it's first and eight every time that's how a lot of these teams do handle it if you know you're going to get to a certain thing so you can play some percentages do it a little bit differently yeah I mean you hit the nail on the head we we have zero accountability for anything so we do get to feel smart when we come out on the right side of it but nothing gets me more upset as a fan than when if a Coach makes a mistake and then they just dig in on it afterwards and they don't admit that it was a mistake and they don't learn from from it so they probably a lot of Rams Fans listening right now they're like well at least you know no you took accountability right away