TEACHERS AND TWO 14-YEAR-OLD STUDENTS AT APALACHEE HIGH SCHOOL IN GEORGIA, JD VANCE WEIGHED IN ON WHAT COULD BE DONE TO STOP THE EPIDEMIC OF SCHOOL SHOOTINGS. HE SAID GUN LAWS WERE NOT GOING TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM. >> I DON'T LIKE THAT THIS IS A FACT OF LIFE. BUT IF YOU ARE A PSYCHO AND YOU WANT TO MAKE HEADLINES, YOU REALIZE THAT OUR SCHOOLS ARE SOFT TARGETS. AND WE HAVE GOT TO BOLSTER SECURITY AT OUR SCHOOLS. >> VANCE'S COLD MATTER OF FACT AND HONESTLY HEARTLESS RESPONSE IS REMINISCENT OF DONALD TRUMP'S REACTION TO A SCHOOL SHOOTING IN PERRYVILLE, IOWA, 36 HOURS AFTER IT HAPPENED. >> IT'S A VERY TERRIBLE THING THAT HAPPENED. AND IT'S JUST HORRIBLE TO SEE THAT HAPPENING. THAT'S JUST HORRIBLE. SO SURPRISING TO SEE IT HERE. BUT WE HAVE TO GET OVER IT. WE HAVE TO MOVE FORWARD. WE HAVE TO MOVE FORWARD. >> HUH. BACK WITH ME, BASIL SMIKLE, TIM O'BRIEN, AND MOLLY JONG FAST. I WANT TO THROW IT OUT THERE FOR YOU. HERE'S DONALD TRUMP SPEAKING BEHIND A BULLETPROOF GLASS AT A RALLY ON AUGUST 31st. HE DOESN'T HAVE TO GET OVER IT. HE GETS TO BE BEHIND A BULLETPROOF GLASS. OUR 14-YEAR-OLDS, OUR FOURTH GRADERS, NO BULLET' PROOF GLASS FOR THEM. THEY JUST HAVE TO GET OVER IT. >> I WAS 12 YEARS OLD, I WAS SHOT BY A 14-YEAR-OLD IN FRONT OF MY SCHOOL. GUN VIOLENCE HAS BEEN PRESENT IN MY LIFE FOR ALMOST ALL MY LIFE. I LOST MANY OF MY FRIENDS GROWING UP TO GUN CULTURE. SO SCREW YOU IF YOU THINK THIS IS A FACT OF LIFE THAT I SHOULD JUST GET OVER TOMORROW. THERE IS A WHOLE GENERATION OF SCHOOL STUDENTS GROWING UP RIGHT NOW HAVING TO DEAL WITH THE THREAT OF SOMEBODY COMING INTO THEIR SCHOOL ROOM AND KILLING THEIR FRIENDS, THEMSELVES, THEIR TEACHERS. AND IF YOU CONSIDER THE PARKLAND SHOOTING AND HOW THOSE YOUNG PEOPLE BECAME ACTIVE IMMEDIATELY AFTER THAT SHOOTING OCCURRED AND STARTED LOBBYING ELECTED OFFICIALS OF CONGRESS TO GET RID OF GUNS, THAT'S THE KIND OF CULTURE OF CIVIC ENGAGEMENT WE SHOULD BE PROMOTING BUT DONALD TRUMP AND JD VANCE ARE SAYING JUST GET OVER IT. SCREW YOU AND THAT MIND SET. WE'RE DRUNK OFF OF GUNS IN THIS COUNTRY, AND I THINK IT TAKES SOMEONE LIKE KAMALA HARRIS, HOPEFULLY KAMALA HARRIS, TO BE ABLE TO SAY LOOK, I HAVE DEALT WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE IN MY CAREER WHO HAVE HAD A LOT OF ISSUES WITH GUNS, AND WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO GET THEM OUT OF OUR CULTURE. >> IMAGINE BEING SOMEBODY LIKE JD VANCE, WHO DEMANDS THAT WOMEN GIVE BIRTH TO AS MANY KIDS AS POSSIBLE, HE ALWAYS CALLS THEM KIDS, BUT THEN SAYS, YOU KNOW, IF THOSE KIDS GET SHOT DEAD AT SCHOOL, SUCKS FOR THEM. >> AND YOU SEE, I MEAN, HERITAGE FOUNDATION PROJECT 2025, IF YOU GO TO THAT WEBSITE, EVERYTHING IS ABOUT REGULATING IVF. THEY ARE DESPERATE TO REGULATE IVF, BUT NOT GUNS. LOOK, THE REALITY IS THERE IS ACTUALLY MOST -- THERE'S REALLY NO OTHER COUNTRY THAT LIVES LIKE THIS. >> THERE IS NONE. >> WE HAVE GUN VIOLENCE LIKE -- >> YEMEN. >> BUT EVERYWHERE ELSE, ENGLAND, FRANCE, CANADA, MEXICO, YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T HAVE KIDS -- AND THE OTHER THING IS WE'RE RETRAUMATIZING STUDENTS. WE HAVE THESE KIDS WHO ARE -- YOU KNOW, THEY ARE DEALING WITH THE POSSIBILITY OF GETTING SHOT IN SCHOOL, THEY ARE DOING THESE DRILLS, YOU KNOW, ALL THE TIME. THESE DRILLS ARE SUPER TRAUMATIC, AND YOU KNOW, WHEN I GREW UP, WE DIDN'T HAVE THESE DRILLS BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE AS MANY GUNS. WE HAD, REMEMBER, WE HAD AUTOMATIC -- WE HAD A GUN BAN ON CERTAIN KINDS OF GUNS. >> THAT JOE BIDEN PUSHED THROUGH THE SENATE. AND LET ME PLAY THE OTHER THING THAT THEY SHOW. AND BY THE WAY, IT'S RETRAUMATIZING ME AS A MOM BECAUSE MY KIDS STARTING IN THIRD GRADE HAD TO HAVE THESE DRILLS AND SHOW US THE PARK WHEN WE WOULD PICK UP OUR KIDS IF THERE WAS A SCHOOL SHOOTING IN BROWARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AND IT WAS TRAUMATIZING TO ME AS WELL TO BE LIKE, MY BABIES, IF THEY DON'T SHOW UP, THEY'RE DEAD. AND REPUBLICANS ARE LIKE, IT DOESN'T MATTER. HERE'S TED CRUZ AT THE NRA CONVENTION IN HOUSTON THREE DAYS AFTER THE UVALDE MASSACRE, WHERE 19 STUDENTS AND TWO TEACHERS WERE KILLED. HERE'S TED CRUZ. >> TRAGEDIES LIKE THE EVENTS OF THIS WEEK ARE A MIRROR FORCING US TO ASK HARD QUESTIONS, DEMANDING THAT WE SEE WHERE OUR CULTURE IS FAILING. LOOKING AT BROKEN FAMILIES, ABSENT FATHERS, DECLINING CHURCH ATTENDANCE, SOCIAL MEDIA BULLYING. IT'S A LOT EASIER TO MOREALIZE ABOUT GUNS AND TO SHRIEK ABOUT THOSE YOU DISAGREE WITH POLITICALLY. BUT IT'S NEVER BEEN ABOUT GUNS. >> OH, GO TO CANCUN, MAN. THERE IS A FATHER IN THE HOME OF THIS KID, COLT GRAY, 14-YEAR-OLD. WHO IS CHARGED WITH FOUR COUNTS OF FELONY MURDER. HIS FATHER COLIN GRAY IS NOW CHARGED WITH FOUR COUNTS OF INVOLUNTARY MANSLAUGHTER, TWO COUNTS OF SECOND DEGREE MURDER AND EIGHT COUNTS OF CRUELTY TO CHILDREN IN THE SECOND DEGREE, WHY? BECAUSE HE BOUGHT THE AR-15 FOR THE KID EVEN KNOW HE KNEW THE FBI HAD NOTICED THERE WAS SOMETHING WRONG WITH THE KID. SO THE FATHER IN THE HOME ACTUALLYEVEN NOTICED THERE WAS SOMETHING WRONG WITH THIS KID. THE FATHER IN THE HOME ACTUALLY CAUSED THE PROBLEM. >> THERE'S A PRECEDENT FOR THIS IN MICHIGAN . THIS IS A GOOD DEVELOPMENT IF PARENTS WERE GIVING THEIR KIDS A CRACK PIPE OR SUBJECTING THEIR KIDS TO ANY OUTLANDISH DANGER AND WASHING THEIR HANDS OF IT WE WOULD SAY WE ARE GOING TO HOLD YOU ACCOUNTABLE. THIS KIND OF ACCOUNTABILITY IS WAY TOO LATE BUT I THINK IF YOU'VE GOT GUNS AT HOME, YOU'RE GIVING THEM TO YOUR CHILD AS A CHRISTMAS PRESENT AND YOU AREN'T LOCKING THE WEAPONS UP AND YOU'VE GOT A CHILD THAT HAS TROUBLE WITH A PATTERN OF BEING TROUBLED AT SCHOOL THAN YOU ARE CULPABLE. THE IDEA THAT WE MEET OUT CAPITAL PUNISHMENT ON 14-YEAR- OLD THEN WE LET THE PARENTS SKATE IT'S A PART OF THE GOP PATTERN WILLING TO SAY THIS EXISTS OUTSIDE OF THE ETHER AND IT'S PART OF THE CULTURE WITH THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS. BUT, WE JUST WON'T PASS RATIONAL SAYING CONSTRUCTIVE GUN CONTROL AND WE WON'T HOLD RELEVANT STAKEHOLDERS POSSIBLE WHETHER IT'S THE GUN MANUFACTURERS OR THE PARENTS OR LOCAL POLITICIANS WITH THE RESPONSIBILITY TO ENSURE THEIR SAFETY. >> THE POLITICIANS ON THE REPUBLICAN SIDE WHO RUN FOR OFFICE FIRING GUNS AS IF THEY ARE DOING AN AD FOR THE CLAN AND WHO THEN TURN AROUND AND SAY THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS THAN PUT A BIBLE VERSE IN SCHOOL OR PUT THE 10 COMMANDMENTS AND. >> AT A CONGRESSIONAL BASEBALL CAME, CONGRESSIONAL BASEBALL GAME, THEY DON'T CARE. >> THEY ARE NOW NOT -- THIS IS TO CHANGE TOPICS HERE. RFK JUNIOR HAS MANAGED TO GET OFF THE BALLOT. TALK ABOUT BAD TIMING. HE WANTED TO HELP TRUMP WHAT HE DIDN'T REALIZE YOU HAVE TO GET OFF OF THE BALLOT. I THINK THE A MICHIGAN APPEALS COURT WILL REVERSE RULING SAYING THAT HIS NAME SHOULD COME OFF OF THE BALLOT THERE. HOW WILL THIS IMPACT THE CAMPAIGN? >> I'M THINKING TO MYSELF, MY GOD, HE'S ONLY ENDORSED DONALD TRUMP SO DONALD TRUMP TO SEND HIM TO GO DO THIS STUFF. >> TEQUILA WORMS IN HIS BRAIN.