Laura Loomer assistant from "Loomer Unleashed" gets WRECKED in off the rails LIVE interview

so there's a gentleman by the name of Charles DS uh he is a journalist for lumer Unleashed and we got into it on social media yesterday and I invited him on the show and uh he agreed the only stipulation was he was gonna wear his uh Cleveland Cavaliers you got to Jersey which I agreed to do uh and I said let's do it let's get into it I said why don't you just usually I don't have guests on to start the show but I said let's just get into it you know on a Friday let's just get right into it so Char join us right now on PTL Charles I appreciate you being here how are you doing sir oh I'm doing fantastic how about yourself are you ready to get into this debate this is gonna be so much fun like I well it might not be fun for for you I don't know but I hope it's fun for both of us okay that's my objective I wore my Celtic jersey as you asked you're wearing your Cleveland jersey and uh I want to get right into it with you my man so first of all how long have you been working for Laura lummer uh in lumer unleash let me get a little background on you first hold up dude I'm just tweeting out your live link right now and then let's let's get into it sorry that that's okay no problem I just want to give people a little bit of background on you and how long you've been uh working for you know lummer Unleashed if you can give us a little bit of that so for sure I'm ready to go now this is gonna be great so how long how long have you been there uh since like November I've been working with Laura and it's been fantastic she's a great personal friend she's very smart very intelligent probably like one of the best political operatives I know and I know a lot of political operatives on the right and on the left we can get into that later but if you want to talk about Laura lomer to start and I'm not here to you know trash your boss but she called all Muslims Savages and she said she was a proud islamophobic is that somebody that you think is smart that would say uh she is a proud islamophobic because I find that repugnant and disgusting I mean I kind of find like Islam kind of a little disgusting with their codes and how they don't allow women to drive cars and make okay well there's plenty of people there's plenty of people that are Islamic uh in the United States of America that are not extremists she called herself a proud islamophobic that means everybody that is Islam she is against don't you find that to be racist and repugnant that's my question I'm not asking about your beliefs I'm asking about your boss's beliefs when you call yourself a proud islamophobic you're taking an entire group of people into one not everybody in Islam says women can't drive a car and can't show their body or anything you do understand that right aren't you the same guy who said all Trump supporters are basically like KK absolutely not you've just started the first words you've said in this interview are blatantly false and a lie and I'm going to call you on on it never in the 20 years of radio or or when Trump got into office have I ever characterized every Trump supporter as anything and if you actually took the time to listen to what I had to say I said it felt like a clan rally at the rally and I've said every day on this show every day on this show that I have Trump friends I don't characterize every Trump supporter as being racist I don't characterize every Trump supporter as being in the clan so would you like to rearize what you just said because you misrepresented me I mean I I watched your video so I guess maybe you can explain more maybe I didn't hear your video correctly but no you didn't why why did you feel like you were at a clan rally I guess I said it felt like Clan rally because of the cultish uh nature of it and I've I've explained this but I'll explain it to you when people are buying Donald Trump Bibles when people are buying $750 sneakers some people were selling Confederate flags at that rally I believe it to be a cult like the clan it is a cult and even Donald Trump admitted it I could shoot somebody on Fifth Avenue and many of these people would still support me you don't see people with Malarkey signs on the back of pickup trucks you don't see people buying Joe Biden Bibles you don't see people buying $700 Joe Biden sneakers he's use literally using God and religion to make money and Hawk Bibles with all due respect that's a cult the clan is a cult oh yeah and by the way there were maybe a small handful of minorities at that rally 99.9% of them are white so I'm not saying every Trump supporter is a racist I'm not saying every Trump supporter is in the clan that would be a ridiculous statement and by the way never said that what I said is it felt like a a clan atmosphere in a sense of the word cult I mean I think people don't drive around with Joe Biden signs and stickers because nobody likes Joe Biden okay let's go going off your assessment nobody likes Joe Biden then why did Joe Biden win the popular vote badly in 2020 we all know Biden win the election come on what do you mean come on where's your evidence of widespread voter for that Joe Biden didn't win a free and do you all right say with a stra face do you really really really really like truly believe like in in your heart of hearts that Barack Obama got less votes than Joe Biden in Philadelphia and Detroit answer that question okay sure I will really really really sure I'll answer it so it's not what's in my heart like you because I don't go by what's in my heart not your brain you really think more V Obama so anybody that has an IQ over 20 would understand that Joe Biden won a free and fair election and there's no evidence because that's what I go by uh Charles I actually go by something called evidence now if you can prove to me that there was widespread voter fraud which none of the courts nobody could prove Donald Trump's attorneys couldn't prove it nobody could prove it in a courtroom that there was something called widespread voter fraud that could have changed the outcome of the election which has not been proven to this day so it's not what's in my heart it's not what's in my mind it's just something called logic and the facts I don't know if you can spell the word fact but there are no facts that would claim that Joe Biden didn't win in 2020 it's absurd pania Pennsylvania changed their voting mechanisms without the approval of the legislator and when Pennsylvania changed their voting mechanisms to allow mailin ballots a legislator those mailin ballots never ever ever should have counted because they were illegal Donald Trump won Pennsylvania so that's your Donald trumpin and Donald Trump won Georgia so Donald Trump won the election okay so first of all no wrong that's your opinion that it was illegal it was not illegal that's number one said what Pennsylvania did illegal okay courts have come out in Wisconsin those dropboxes illegal courts have come out in Georgia illegal they literally had to change the Georgia recount I'm sorry they had to change the Georgia runoff election rules because what happened in November was illegal right okay in your opinion the elections were illegal I tend to listen to the FBI the doj when they say it was the most secure election we've ever had than somebody who works for L lumer Unleashed uh with all due respect uh I am I'm repeating what the courts are saying I'm repeating what the so let me ask you a question then so let me so if that was true and the courts are saying the election was stolen then why is it that Donald Trump had 61 opportunities to provide evidence in the courtroom room and they couldn't provide any evidence that the election was stolen and there uh there was no merit to any of those cases and they were thrown out why is that then are some of those Trump we're touching on a great great Point here and a great point about the Constitutional crisis that America was going through during the 2020 election why didn't the courts you're asking a great question why didn't the courts step in they there was no merit cowards the Supreme Court are cowards okay so this court literally said hey what Pennsylvania is doing is wrong with approving mailin ballots without the approval of the legislator and the wrong and they did nothing about it some of those judges were Trump appointed judges so I guess that's Donald Trump's fault then isn't it uh I don't want to get into a 45 minute debate with you why you think that Donald Trump won the 2020 election the bottom line the bottom line is that he didn't it's a ridiculous conversation and I'd like to talk to you about uh some more important issues that's in the past joee Biden won a free and fair election um you said that if you don't vote for Trump that you're a Democrat so you're saying Liz Cheney is a Democrat oh she's the biggest Democrat Liz Cheney is a Democrat who votes 99.9% with conservatives and you're making the claim on this show that you believe Liz Cheney is a Democrat because she doesn't support Donald Trump are you serious oh she's the biggest Democrat and she's screwed over so many she evered a Democrat she's literally set the stage to get Republican potentially get Republican colleagues of hers jailed by the j6 committee that doesn't make you're a republican she's a Democrat she sold out as soon as she joined the j6 committee because if you remember you remember how the j6 committee was formed do you remember then minority leer McCarthy didn't get his picks right and then so because you want so so by your standards hold on Charles by your standards even though she's a lifelong Republican and she's voted 99% with the Republicans her entire career you're willing to throw all out throw that all out on the garbage because she wants people held accountable for January 6 that is absurd by the way L Chene is not a Democrat Mike Pence is not a Democrat Mike Pompeo is not a Democrat Jeff Duncan is not a Democrat M Romney is not a Democrat you're making the case that for All The Independents out there and even moderate Republicans that are friends of mine that they're not many of them that I talked to they're not even voting for Joe Biden they're just not voting for Donald Trump and you're claiming if you don't vote for a liable sexual abusing 34C count felon that somehow that makes you a Democrat is one of the dumbest things I've ever heard in my life no if you are not what if you are not supporting the GOP nominee in arguably the most important election of our lifetime you are not a republican if you are not supporting the GOP nominee how can you say with a stray face you're a republican okay so first of all that's not what you said you said if they're not supporting Donald Trump they're a Democrat which is Donald Trump's a nominee so if you're not Donald Trump you're a democat could it be could it be possible Charles that maybe some of these people would all do respect unlike you I don't know you personally but it could be possible that some of these people maybe they have a moral compass and they don't want to vote for a guy that's a 34C count felon and a liable sexual abuser who say Liz Cheney has a moral compass do we need more than Donald Trump absolutely threw her sister down the well she tra own sister Li Cheney's garbage L CH lied he lied and got thousands of Americans killed okay so you care about lying got it so you care about lying yet you wear the Donald Trump knee pads that makes a lot of sense let's talk about January 6 since you much about L your audience on this so yeah yeah you're you're definitely educating me Charles you're making some amazing points um clearly clearly you're a Democrat if you don't vote for Donald Trump that that makes a ton of you don't support and I think Democrats would say the same thing no they wouldn't no they would if you were not supporting Joe I haven't heard would be like you're not a Dem now I haven't heard one Democrat that calls himself a journalist like you who would say if you vote for Donald Trump you're not a Democrat you're a republican what I have heard people say is I think you're misguided I think you lack a moral compass if you vote for Donald Trump but I wouldn't say for somebody that has voted with the Democrat Party 99% of the time because they choose to vote for Donald Trump that they're not a Democrat they're a republican I would say they're wrong they're misguided I disagree with their opinion but claiming that there from the other party because you don't like the way they're voting is absurd let's talk about out way to destroy the House GOP as she was trying to destroy Donald Trump I'm sure so you don't think Jamie Rasin as an example my little friend Jamie I'm sure if Jamie Rasin decided hey I'm gonna talk a bunch of [ __ ] about Joe Biden then I'm G to go out of my way to destroy my congressional Democrat colleagues I don't think many people on the left would consider Jamie rat col Jam be the first person to say yeah I'm not a Democrat anymore seriously uh Jamie Raskin is a Democrat I have no idea what you're talking about which Democrat colleague destroy which Democrat colleague did he destroy I have no idea what an example I'm saying if an example of something you're using it as an example of something that didn't happen you're not making any sense no I'm I'm trying to put it in perspective for your audience I'm saying look if a member of Congress on the left said I'm not supporting Joe Biden and then that same member of Congress joins a republican only committee and then uses that committee to go after their Democrat colleagues and threaten them with jail seriously no one on the left would say that guy's a Democrat anymore okay well again nobody on the Democrat Party is doing that and the reason why there are people like Adam kinzinger and and Mitt Romney's and Liz Cheney out there is because they want somebody on they want people on January 6 to be held accountable let me ask you a question about January 6 if Donald Trump doesn't lie and say that the election was stolen which by the way it wasn't I know you think it was with no real evidence but if Donald Trump doesn't say the election was stolen uh leading up uh to January 6 does January 6th happen yes or no I mean the election was stolen Ser no it wasn't I'm not gonna I'm not not gonna have a debate with you over stupidity the election was not stolen there's no evidence of widespread voter fraud and if you want to keep telling yourself that and keep saying the Earth is I'm using is that voting rules were changed in that doesn't mean the election wasg you even know why they did that you even that's what we like to call illegal do you even know it's not do you even know why they did that do you even understand that we were in and worked up over to flu that's why okay so it was the flu another idiotic stupid statement on your part now I know you're not a doctor and you have no medical degrees can you name me a time in this country where the flu K killed millions of people what the hell are you talking about now you're gonna say was the flu 1919 the flu I'm talking about modern medicine in the last 50 years this was a global pandemic where millions of people died are you not are you not oh so now you're gonna say they didn't die people died but they if you got if you got hit by a car and you had Co a little bit of Co and you got hit by a car said k% and where's your evidence of that I'm literally repeating statistics from no you're repeating conspiracy theories by idiots on the far right where is your evidence that if somebody was hit by a car so much where is your evidence where is it where could we go see your evidence you you have many so how many people died of Co who cares I don't know who cares I don't know so you don't know how many people died of covid but I don't wor Co numbers sorry I don't so you have no idea so you have no idea how many people died of covid yet you want to have a debate with me and downplay Co do you it wasn't real I mean it was real but it was like the media portrayed it as was it they could change election rules without people freaking out without the courts stepping in so they could cheat come on dude the courts were too scared to move on these election rules being changed without State Legislature approval because the courts are being scared that they would be called Grandma Killers because that's what the media blasted out and that was I mean honestly y'all on the left you guys did a great job with you play award first all let me correct you again because again you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about I'm not y all I'm not a Democrat I'm a registered independent that did not vote for Hillary Clinton I didn't vote for Barack Obama I am anti-donald Trump and I know you think everybody on the planet that doesn't vote for Donald Trump must be a liberal which is by the way the dumbest thing I've ever heard in my life I'm the Republican nominee you're not a Republican is that okay okay got you so so the Republican party is is is led by the oranged turd who's a liable sexual abuser and a 34C count felon but okay that's fine if you don't vote for a 34C count felon you're out of the Republican Party hey that's a great way to win votes why do you think that the Republican party has lost seven of the last eight popular vote in presidential election because there's too many people out there like you that spread conspiracy theories and nonsense oh no because they cheat in New York in Los Angeles oh they cheat okay so let me ask you a question Chicago you trust the voting in Chicago you think the voting in Chicago mother effing Illinois is honest serious question I don't know why you need to swear we're doing a live interview on the radio and he show a lack of intelligence by doing that uh Donald Trump says sometimes you gotta add a little profanity to make it a good story well that's that's a very intelligent thing to do you gotta add very intelligent yeah I use up here I don't need to use profanity with you so let me ask you a question yeah you sound like a very intelligent person so let's go back to 2016 for a moment sir um before the 2016 election Donald Trump said that the election was going to be rigged that Hillary was going to cheat and that the Democrats were going to cheat and then something interesting happened yeah we swed okay hold on let let me finish I don't hopefully you're smart enough to understand where I'm going with this all right Donald Trump won a free and fair election in 2016 Hillary Clinton conceded that night and then for the next three years I didn't hear any Republicans saying that oh well it wasn't a fair election it was illegitimate that was Hillary Hillary was no it wasn't she ConEd night no it wasn't no it wasn't you don't know what you're talking about Hillary Clinton conceded that night what the hell are you talking about there wased and and then she called her buddy Obama and then they tried to literally Force Trump out with some fake Doss what are you talking about she want to she conceeded happened man just like come on what do you mean come on come on dude he won the 2016 election he said it was going to be rigged I guess it wasn't rigged was Donald Trump wrong in 2016 there were some weird things that happened in 2016 Trump swamped her so bad they couldn't free and fair but he w a free and fair election why didn't they call Pennsylvania till like 3 in the morning in 2016 okay so you don't want to answer my questions directly is that what election but it wasn't free and fair he won it despite the Democrats cheating okay the Democrat Donald Trump's popularity okay so with no evidence the Democrats tried to cheat in 2016 with no evidence of widespread voter fraud you claim that Donald Trump won the 2020 yeah because Philadelphia is like yeah you should really trust the results coming out of philadelph no I really trust I really trust lummer unleash you guys no I really trust people like you you have a ton of credibility Charles um so Charles let me ask you a question yeah you have a ton of credibility uh do you think Joe Biden's accomplished anything has he done anything good I mean he's pretty good at he's accomplished a lot of things like destroying America really job destroying America how's he done that fantastic job how's he done that how's he done that what policies go get some gas so you think Joe Biden sets the gas prices are you that ignorant I mean Joe Biden sets the policies watch set inflation and everything else within the econom back better which is actually build back worse better shot inflation up oh and Joe Biden doesn't let people drill anymore so you can't get any oil so gas is super expensive do you understand that the oil cost sets the standard for all inflation so if you have high energy cost it's a Down I guess we could call it a down ballot effect since we're talking about politics you have no idea where you obviously have no idea where the energ energy independent statistics are in this country you also don't understand that EXC excuse me you're just throwing things at a wall and hope that they stick and you have no idea what you're talking about first of all we had a war gas how much was gas when Donald Trump left office how much gas I'm gonna I'm gonna try to educate has nothing to do with it we weren't even really buying gas from Russia now you're we canit have enough oil to our world I'm resp and we'd be the energy independent I'm gonna respond to what you just said because it's not good for our listeners when we both talk over each other so now so now I'm going to talk and then I'm going to give you the opportunity to talk you're making the claim that it's Joe Biden's fault uh where our gas prices are at now I'm going to respond to that and I'm going to tell you first of all there's something called corporate greed and the and the oil companies in this country have had record profits of for decades that's number one number two if you ask an actual Economist that knows what they're talking about which clearly you don't listen to these people they would tell you that certainly coming out of a pandemic and the war in Ukraine had a lot to do with why gas prices went on the rise number three 98% of the world had to deal with high gas prices and inflation and to those countries that we compare ourselves to we are doing much better than them so when you blame Joe Biden for H uh for for high gas prices in turn you don't seem to understand that the gas companies in this country have made record profits and that the war in the Ukraine if you speak to professionals that know what they're talking about when it comes to economics would tell you that Joe Biden doesn't set the gas prices who's the war in Ukraine's fault isn't it Biden's fault it's really interesting why why does Putin only go into Ukraine when Democrats are in office can you answer that question so now so you just skipped over every want to talk about corporate greed let's talk about corporate greed you know who is the most guilty of corporate greed woke Capital look at all this damage W capital is doing and woke capital is just as guilty for all his energy prices as Joe Biden is and who funds Joe Biden oh woke capital capital funds very intellig all right but wall Street's not funding Donald Trump Wall Street hasn't funded Republicans since like okay 2012 2012 called they want their talking points back Republicans hav't been funded by so you just so you didn't respond to anything that I just said resp well I I mean I'm not gonna repeat what I just said you just you just talked you're all over the place would you say expanding overtime guarantees for millions of Americans is a bad thing for the country or a good thing for the country I mean is making people work more and more and more because wages are so crappy and inflation is so high I made a video the other day so many people in my generation have to work two jobs because Joe Biden's economy sucks and then Joe Biden wants to track our VMO transactions at $500 so you can tax that mean Donald Trump is not gonna tax and that helps my generation because my generation like I said so many people have had to get a second hey Charles hey Charles let's talk about that since you didn't again uh respond to what just said uh Donald Trump said he doesn't want to tax people on tips hey Charles why didn't he do that when he was president I mean he did a lot of other things when he was no no no that's not what I asked you he tried to do that actually work Donald cannot rely over in the house get do it himself we don't need Congress yes Charles you just said something that's not true you just said Trump did try to do it that is false Charles what Bill did Donald Trump put in place to not uh tax tippers when he was multiple CR continuing resolutions you know they do government tried multiple times to do that Charles I'm gonna give you a fact check I was in those I promise you I promise you I don't care listen I don't care what you promis there's fact and then there's F saw it with my okay I'm sure you did Charles so the fact is is that Donald Trump has never mentioned that until he came to Vegas he came to Vegas we are uh you know in that sort of business with with tipping is huge in Las Vegas it's the first time he ever brought it up he didn't bring it up when he was president he didn't bring it up in 2021 or 2022 now let me ask you another question and let's see if you could respond to it directly because you really haven't responded to any of my questions directly uh would you say gun violence prevention and gun safety $286 million uh to student illness and helping those that are suffering from mental illness would you say that would be a good thing or a bad thing for the country I mean what does that even mean suffering from mental illness like can you define that can you define sure those that are suffering sure those that are suffering from mental illness it could be depression it sounds nice but like where's all that money actually going how I'm trying to tell you if you could just listen to me there are a lot of people in this country that suffer from a ton of different mental illnesses uh it could be depression it could be anxiety a number of different things and what Joe Biden did is he implemented funds to help students to help them with student wellness also gun violence prevention and gun safety now Republican or Democrat I would think most Americans would say helping those that are mentally ill especially our children would be a good thing would you agree with me or would you like to put a negative towards that no I mean I agree with you helping children who are mentally are good but that's not what Joe Biden's doing yes no this what is so good no I was I'll give you guys this you y'all over on the left you say you're not the left but you know you're occupi Democrats right now so all rightt them down pot them down my job people WR this guys on the are so good everything you say is factually inac I am on a bunch of I guess you could say a bunch of different Avenues on social media and platforms one of the platforms that I am on is occupi Democrats if there was an occupi Republicans I would be on their platform as well because unlike you I have a large audience okay I don't work for occupied Democrats I'm on their platform and I'm very appreciative of that okay so just because I'm on occupied Democrats doesn't mean that I'm a Democrat you are on lumer unleashed the Donald Trump campaign doesn't even want anything to do with Laura lumer the person that you work for who calls herself a proud islamophobic she is a conspiracy theorist that has made conspiracy theorist claims about the Parkland shooting she is no better than Alex Jones so don't you start criticizing the platforms that I'm on you work for Laura lumer who is respected really by nobody with an IQ over 20 in this country she's despicable she's a bad person okay so don't start oh yeah I'm sure she's very nice calling yourself an islamophobic are you freaking kidding me she is a disgrace and everything you've said in this interview is absurd you've said that Donald Trump won the 2020 election when he you said okay well it's not my fault you're an idiot when you say things like that how am I an idiot if I say you're an idiot because everything everything you say is conspiracy all said those St medical experience you claim that Donald Trump won the 2020 election when there's no evidence of widespread vote of Fraud and then when I ask you about 2016 when Trump did win a free and fair election you claim the Democrats tried to cheat there as well they did you have no idea what you're talking about Charles you have no evidence you're no better than Laura lomer and you're no better than Alex Jones you're a conspiracy theorist who watch watches too much of news literally nothing you've said in this interview is a fact you're continuing to run your mouth right now and you don't know how to listen so if you want to continue this conversation you're not going to misquote me or misrepresent my opinions on anything I'm not going to allow that to happen okay if you want to continue the conversation I'm happy to do so but just because I'm on a platform C occupied Democrats doesn't mean I'm so biased on one side of the aisle like you are you're not willing to criticize Donald Trump for literally anything when he said I could shoot somebody on Fifth Avenue he was talking about Charles DS he was talking about you because you wear the Donald Trump knee pads that's what you do have you criticized Donald Trump for anything Charles I criticize Donald Trump he's the greatest president so he's never he so when he said he didn't so when he said he didn't respect John McCain because he was captured are you okay with that statement yeah John McCain is a big loser and all John McCain's done is hurt America so did you grow up in the where did you grow up I'm not trying to be creepy but where did you grow up what does that have to do with the conversation because your background has a lot to do with your politics right so like I said I'm not you don't have to be like this town but like where are you like what's your I guess my background has nothing to do with my political belief I mean I'll give you my back because my background has everything to do with my political I really don't care about your background right now we're talking about issues I'm trying to get so I'm trying to understand your opinion on this let's try to focus you can have your differences of opinions when it comes to John McCain that's fine that's not what I'm asking you about I'm asking you about in general a person that was a p for five and a half years and you don't he said he doesn't respect him because he was captured and you're telling me you're okay with that statement I mean I think that statement that Trump said was taken a little out of context no it wasn't we played it on the show before I'm not taking it out of context John mcain is a piece of garbage sorry why am I supposed to respect someone because he was captured John McCain went to the United States Senate and for 50 years he sold out my people he sold out my people from the Rust Belt he sold out our jobs he sold out our opportunities so he could make a buck and feed his the growing daughter you know that's all John McCain did why I respect I respect John anyone from the r I'm gonna answer your question because it's clearly something that you've never done because obviously you haven't served this country he was a p for five and a half years and he was tortured what do you mean o are you that much of jerk what do you mean o you don't have respect for our brave men and women in uniform what no I never said that I said I don't have respect for someone like John McCain who went he was a p for five and a half years to the United States Senate for 50 years and sold out America I'm not talking about your political opinions on John McCain it was Donald Trump that specifically said he didn't respect him because he was captured you're defending that statement do you realize how awful that is what you're defending you realize how awful John McCain is I hope I'm gonna say this one I wish John McCain would get alive and go get captured again I'd be super happy if that happened well you know what you know what Charles you're just an a-hole you're just a bad person to say no you're just no you're a jerk for you just to say that you want John McCain if he was here to be captured again makes you a Despicable you are a Despicable turd what is even your education you sound like you have a 20 IQ how stupid are you really I mean how stupid are you where is your education what are your degrees give it to ask you about your background I'll give you my background I'll answer anything you have for me I want to know what your education is I mean I where did you go to college stupid me and Paul Ryan had the same oh wow you got a GED so you're like Lauren bber did you go to college do you have a degree just told you I graduated from Miami of Ohio with the same degree as Paul Ryan and what was your degree and what was your what was your degree at Miami Ohio business and politics like the best you could get we're like the number politics at Miami genius hi IQ genius you're a genius yeah you definitely sound like a genius saying that you want somebody who is a prisoner of war who is passed away if he was alive to be a prisoner of war again let me be very I wish you were a prisoner of war I wish you were in a cave in Afghanistan with Lauren bber right now I really do I wish you would grow up in russb Ohio and see how awful it is okay I don't know what that has to do with anything I has a lot to do with it because John McCain was in the sener for 50 plus years he sold out our jobs and he destroyed the r belt because you don't like let's go with that okay so let's go with that you don't like him because you don't like his politics and you don't think he people okay sure so you're entitled to that opinion but you're taking that opinion and saying you wish that he was a p again do you realize how Despicable that statement is you realize how Despicable John MC has hurt people flooded my community my hometown with fentanyl his policies are killing people and have killed thousands of people in Ohio yeah he has he literally has passed legislation that got people hooked on the oades dude okay so what have we learned in this interview we've learned that uh with no direct evidence of widespread voter for Charles says that Donald Trump won the 2020 election with no direct evidence he says that uh uh the Democrats and Hillary Clinton attempted to cheat in the 2016 elections he's downplayed co called hold on I just want to review he's called Co the flu he's also defended Donald Trump's statements when he said he didn't respect John McCain because he was captured he also wished that if John McCain was alive today that he would be a p again Charles you sound like a very intelligent very decent human being I wouldn't expect anything less from somebody who works with Laura lomer who is also you part where I said I wish John mccan would get captured again and be held as a PW because of his horrific policies he enacted in the United States Senate if John McCain didn't go to the United States Senate for 50 years and Destroy America I never would wish that on him yeah how much money gotcha gotcha um so uh I'm just I'm just curious here because you know you and I forgot to add that if you don't vote for Donald Trump you're not a republican uh which the party nominee you're not a part of that party that's a very basic basic basic no that's what makes you see that's what well you see here's where you're wrong regardless of what your stupid opinions are uh if you're a registered Republican and you don't vote for Donald Trump guess what the RNC says you can still be a registered Republican change it rules okay well they're not because that wouldn't be America that would be called a dictatorship okay dummy that would be called the dictatorship just because you don't yes you are you're very stupid you're a very dumb person okay I don't want to go to ad hamim attacks but it's really hard to have any conversation of any intellectual abilities when I'm talking to someone like you who literally has the brain capacity of a two-year-old B drink but keep it going yeah you're you're very yeah you sound like a very int you're so smart that you use that degree to work for Laura lomers so obviously you're very intelligent it's everywhere I have so I've shown your work to some of my friends and I can't even say on the air what I said to them because I didn't even know what I was dealing with when I but now I do um so no I I would say no I'm not gonna say it because unlike you I have decency and I wouldn't come on unlike you I wouldn't wish say it to my face okay I'll say it to your I'll say to your face right now what I think about you okay oh I can't wait let's hear it yeah yeah let's hear it you're obviously a very brainwashed unintelligent person you're obviously somebody that only takes far right conspiracy theories you have no facts to back up any of your opinions and quite frankly sir you're an embarrassment to this country and that is why you are not at any legitimate Network and that is why nobody watches your stuff and you're on Laura lomer TV or whatever the hell it is you literally work for a boss who calls herself a proud islamophobic and a conspiracy theorist who said there were actors in The Parkland school shooting she's called Muslim Savages and that's who you work for you have zero credibility Laura lomer has zero credibility and you wear the Donald Trump knee pads 247 you are an idiot and I would say that to your face as well you are a [ __ ] a conspiracy theorist and a dope that's what you are you are a Maga clown and you are a deplorable and when Hillary Clinton said the word deplorable she was talking about people like you if you had to take an IQ test you don't have an IQ over 20 you're a [ __ ] that's what you are the highest IQ actually yeah I'm sure I'm sure just like Donald Trump right just like Donald Trump has the highest IQ as well yeah you have a very high andul Ryan went to the same University very very very high I don't care if Paul Ryan oh by the way Paul Ryan's a Democrat right he's a liat according to the very the road scholar Charles uh Paul Ryan is a Democrat because he's not voting for Donald do you realize how ridiculous you sound literally I try to have a conversation with you and every SLE every single thing you say is not only wrong it's a lot LI or it's a conspiracy theory Trump won the 2020 elections the Democrats cheated in the 2016 elections they cheated in the 20120 elections you downplay covid I mean literally everything you say is a conspiracy theory got there yet that's probably one of your favorite movies right what is he still talking yeah he's probably still talking go ahead you could pot him back up what do you think about Des tosan do you like 2000 mules is that your favorite movie is that my favorite I mean it's a great movie it's great yeah I'm shocked I'm shocked you think it's a great what do you think about the Confederate flag you think that's good for the country what do you think about that I mean someone wants to flly a Confederate flag yeah so you're going to defend the what do you think about called the first amend someone wants to scream Donald scream F Donald Trump they have a right to do that too him down again do whatever you want as long as you're peacefully doing it I didn't ask you if people don't have a right or have a right to show the Confederate flag I asked you what your opinion was of it are you not even capable of understanding a question no no I am answer that is my opinion my opinion on the Confederate flag is if someone wants to fly it they have every and what is your personal opinion about what the flag grew up in the midwest why would I have a personal opinion on the Confederate flag you don't have any opinion on what do you think about Alex Jones when he said the school shooting in Connecticut didn't happen you okay with that opinion you okay First Amendment right to say no he doesn't you don't even know what the First Amendment right is you dope what what just that pertains to the government understand you can't scream fire in a movie theater is not at that level people wasen law that those parents who lost loved ones and children were getting death threats because of the things that Al said you don't even know what the first amendment is respons people you can go on a sidewalk and say a school shooting didn't happen but when you go on a private business entity with a large platform you can't say things that can harm people or hurt people or it violence do you not even understand what the first amendment is dude yeah I do Char do you not even understand yeah okay so was Alex Jones calling up those parents were other people calling out those parents do you not even understand the Alex Jones case and why he he got sued and why he lost do I have to explain it to you no you're not answering you're accusing me I'm not answering your questions now I'm gonna ask a few questions sure I was very very I was like the most respectful so respectful they said no you didn't the first you weren't respectful at all literally have let you you weren't respectful at all first the first 10 seconds of this conversation you misrepresented me you misquoted me and you misquoted what I said at the Trump rally because you're because you don't know what you're talking about so I find that disrespectful when you misrepresent what I think and what I say that's when I get frustrated so don't you give me this high horse oh I've been so respectful to you no I've been most respectful you've disrespected PS you've disrespected is not a p he's a 50-year American sellout who has more money whose family has more money than 98 99.9% of America come on okay so you wanna so so so you want to poo poo on John McCain because he has money and you wish him to be a p again if he was alive but you want to say that I'm being disrespectful give me a break the last part why go ahead and ask your stupid Laura lomer questions go ahead I'll answer any question you have okay want to talk J can we talk wait wait can we talk j6 because like that was the other thing I think we want can we talk j6 yes okay so let me sure uh let's talk j6 and I'll let you ask me anything you want but since it's my show I'm gonna ask the first question okay away so have home field advantage okay well I don't think I need a home field advantage with you because it's somebody with an IQ that's like eight times yours but anyway we'll get back to that later when I know you're I know you're a road scholar at no literally okay okay you're right you're you're an extremely intelligent person sure we'll give you that sure you sound like a very intelligent person so let's go back to January 6 When Donald Trump characterized all the people including some of those people who attacked police officers with their own patons there's a video of it tried to gouge their eyes out and assaulted police officers and he characterized them okay as hostages and Patriots would you say those people on January 6 that attacked police officers are hostages and and and Patriots may may I take it back one step further no answer the question how did j6 happen Nancy no no no the question wasn't about Nancy p a lot of those people Charles Charles Charles I need you to to answer the question directly and my question wasn't about Nancy Pelosi or how January 6th happened I need you to focus since you're such a road scholar and you got this degree from some college I've never heard of um so let's go back to what I said let's see if you okay uh uh again I need you to focus some of those people that were arrested and some of those people that are still in jail were prosecuted for attacking police officers and physically assaulting police officers my question to you and I need you to focus would you characterize those people that attacked police officers as hostages and Patriots please answer the question directly have you seen the videos of the police officers kind of starting it first so I don't know I wasn't there on January 6 I you know okay to pushing some narrative St off a few a few video people attacked some of those people attacked police officers there's video evidence of it they had a chance to defend themselves in a courtroom and they were convicted some of them put in plea deals because they were caught you didn't have to be there so now I'm going to try to ask you one more time because you're curling up like a pretzel Charles you and your you know I'm gonna ask you one more time AC it's a little chilly would you characterize the people who attacked police officers that day physically as hostages Patriots please answer the question I mean I don't really think any police officers were attacked that day based on my research okay bottom down again I don't care about your stupid research there's actual videos out there and it was proven in a courtroom with video that police officers were attacked and over a 100 police officers had injuries and were sent to the hospital so I don't know what stupid Laura Luma research you're doing with the blinders on okay but there were serious crimes that were committed that day and guess what every single one of those people had the right to defend thems in a court of law they had representation some of them coed plea deals uh and some of them didn't and some of them went to trial and most of those people that attack police officers are in jail so I don't know what type of stupid Newsmax research that you did you can't answer a direct question if somebody I'll even I'll even phrase it a different way so somebody like you might understand okay Charles in general terms and I know you'll love this analogy right because Laura lomer talks about it all the time another very credible individual if a black lives matter protest somebody attacks a police Poli officer physically assaults a cop would you call them patriots and hostages is there evidence they actually attacked a police officer just like on January 6 videos muted all right well aot of those J videos are doctored right they're not real Charles I'm not asking you about doctored videos you can't even answer matters with j6 because Charles why can't you answer a direct question do you not have the brain power I'm asking you a very direct question and the normal answer to somebody that has an IQ over 20 would be it doesn't matter where it happens if you attack a police officer you're not a hostage and you're not a patriot like are you not capable of answering a direct question are you not smart enough or are you just so mentally ill and deranged on the far right that number one you can't stop talking and number two you can't answer a direct question as I pod you back on because this is getting to the point in the interview where it was comical and I think I've had you on 49 minutes too much Charles I really do with all due respect I mean I think your ratings are so high right now you love me on you're gonna okay so first of all a dope isn't going to help my ratings that's number one yes that's what you are number two I get 15 to 30,000 people watching the show live every day I get 50 to a 100, people that watch the show every 24 hoursc how many people watch you how many people watch you Charles I don't have a show yeah exactly I wonder why I thought you were a road scholar you I thought you were a really talented millions of people watch my videos on Congress a week so that's Millions so when you chase after a politician and you ask right when you when you when you walk to Jame ask Jamie Rasin a stupid question and you have your little 15 second video you think that means you have any Talent OR ability at all because I'll give you some advice it doesn't show that you have any Talent at all you don't ask any real questions you ask a bunch of stupid right-wing conspiracy theorist questions and that's why nobody has any respect for you I mean when I talk to Jamie Rasin I asked him hey why the j6 committee not delete their commun first of all you can't even book an interview you don't even know how to do that you're in the halls of Congress all day because you don't have a real job and you chase down these politicians in hopes that they answer you most of these politicians don't even answer you they ignore you because they have I saw I saw your stupid Jamie Rasin video and by the way that's not an interview it's chasing somebody and yelling at them and a 15sec sound bite you don't even know how to do an interview I've given you the opportunity you don't even know how to do an interview what do mean this is a great interview this is like the best interview you're having a great time I know you are no I mean I just think you're a complete clown you're a [ __ ] I mean I'm not having a good time I just think I would like to have an interview of substance I had the Donald Trump campaign manager on the other day we had a good conversation I don't agree with her I had a conversation with a right- ring uh strategist I've interviewed some of the furthest people on the far right and we've had actual real interviews you haven't directly answered any question that I've asked you this has been a complete waste of my time and I'm sorry dude if Laura lomer wants to come on the show and she wants to actually answer some of my questions which I'm sure she wouldn't either I would ask her why do you call yourself a proud islamophobe are you a racist why did you say the Parkland uh you had conspiracy theories about the Parkland school shooting when a bunch of kids died why do you call all Muslim Savages why is it that the Donald Trump team won't hire you they want nothing to do with you the campaign doesn't want anything to do with you those are question oh really then why isn't she working in the Donald Trump campaign I don't go ask her oh so you don't know the answer secretary now she wanted to work within the Donald Trump campaign and they wouldn't hire her why do you think that is Charles if she had credibility which she doesn't I don't know if it went down like that man but back can we go back to j6 like let's talk about j6 that's you definitely have all your facts there because you do your own research yeah I have tons of research the guy that the guy that doesn't have show the guy that has never conducted a don't want a show have you ever thought that uh maybe nobody wants to hire you because you're a talentless buffoon have you ever thought of that or May the only the only person that you could work for is Laura lomer a known islamophobe R racist that's the only person that would put you on their platform because she's also despicable I wouldn't say she's despicable I'd say she's pretty POS what is it you do every day you just go to DC and you just chase down politicians with your 10-second sound bites and think you're good at what you do what like one% of it like what do you do you wake up in the morning you do these stupid videos that no you do every day I I'll tell you what I do I'm so glad you asked that question let's hear it because I'll give you an answer you see I do about five hours of show prep every day I get audio sound bites I conduct interviews most of the interviews that I conduct which are people that are about a thousand times more well-known than you people on the right and the left I book guests I come up with my own content I don't chase down people in DC my content's actually pretty good and I disagree with a lot of people that I interview but I prefer to do that but they're actually people that have an IQ and have some intelligence I do best IQ yeah I know you keep saying that I know you're you're a road scholar I understand Charles but what is it you what is it you do every day besides spew right-wing propaganda and conspir do you actually ever interview like do you ever interview anybody with any bit of credibility besides a 10-second sound bite of following somebody in the halls of Congress like do you actually have have you ever watched any interview in the Hall of Congress do all that are have you ever booked any any like no dude like Ian like everybody follows everyone around in Halls that's how it works no you see Manu Raji Works walks around the halls of Congress ionna my sentence by saying that he actually asks intelligent questions and it's why even people like marjerie Taylor green will stop andg a loser there are okay yes okay okay well we I I'm happy that we agree on something that's the one thing we have one agreement think I think Laura lomer and Marg Le Taylor green both have a lot in common and I think both of their IQs don't even add up to 40 but anyway um you see there are journalist very high I do you have any journalistic degrees or any communication degrees or anything in your field anything at all what do you mean I literally graduated with business and political science communication okay but do you have any communications degree or journalistic degree because you call yourself a journalist you're an embar and political science don't need communication I think if you want to be successful in business and Poli science you have to be a to communicate because if you can't communicate your points no one's G buy [ __ ] right right right and I know a lot of people are buying your stuff uh Charles there's no question about that yeah I know a lot what are you selling what are you selling Charles are you selling Trump on the 2020 election shirts what what are you selling are you selling anything are you selling what are you selling I think you're selling a loot of crap is what you're selling about what I'm selling all right well okay so Charles Trump winning so Charles I I've had you on for 50 minutes it's been very difficult to talk to you I'm not going to lie to you I'm going to be honest with you um and and the bottom line here is you're going to go on social media and say I destroyed that guy Shapiro with facts when the reality of the situation is you've provided no evidence for any of your lies and conspiracy theories you're not even capable of answering a direct question I don't think you're smart enough I really feel sorry for you Charles I really do but good luck with maybe a show that you have down the road and good luck chasing down even want a show dude well I don't I wanted a show I would have a show all right yeah I'm sure you would I'm sure it would be very very successful because it would be like the most high highest rated show in history people like people sure yeah yeah like people like Trump people I'll say this I'll give you credit for this the same people that buy Donald Trump Bibles the same people that buy their Confederate flags the same people that will buy gold sneakers that are worth $10 for $750 probably do like you I'm sure that there are some people out there on the far right that are bigots and conspiracy theorist Alex Jones Watchers and watch Newsmax 247 because that's where they get their research from I'm sure there are some of those people not even all of them are the majority of them there are some of those people Charles that will probably like you Charles I appreciate you coming on thank you very much I think you're an embarrassment to journalism and I and quite frankly I think I just wasted 50 minutes of my time because you're a complete idiot but thank you for