Lunch with Lu: Alex Murdaugh Trial: Juror Z Speaks "I still have doubts"

[Music] [Music] 10 10 to don't to long [Music] [Music] he [Music] 1 [Music] ch [Music] [Music] hey you guys I'm sorry I'm late I had a little trouble getting moving this morning after last night how is everybody happy Monday first I want to thank you guys for being here today but I also want to thank everybody who came out last night for the charity stream we raised over $700 so far for St Jude's Children's Hospital and I am so incredibly grateful to you guys I can't even begin to tell you thank you thank you thank you for supporting me last night and always you guys are fantastic I'm so blessed and grateful to have people like you in my corner thank you thank you thank you um which guy Brandy there's two guys one of them is Jesse Miss Kelly Jr and the other guy is uh Damian Eckles both of them are excuse me smoking in that intro the uh one with the black hair is Damian the one with the shorter hair is Jesse that's who sming in the hold on I'm choking apparently that's who smoking sorry did I like cough and not mute I'm sorry I thought I did my bad okay also um as far as the stream goes last night so um there are three songs that got um me um I it's they're not going to do anything with the charity money that's going to go to St Jude's but it's blocked in a couple of territories from carolus whisper don't trust a ho and [Music] um uh down we go because of the Tik Tok and then you know um I'm not smoking I'm in the house um but anyway um actually uh that's Jesse Miss Kelly that who you're uh thinking of Jesse Miss Kelly he's not a bad guy he's part of the West Memphis 3 um but anywh who so they got blocked so I I'm trimming those segments out um YouTube now has an option just to mute the music so that's what I'm doing um but I have to do it three times I'm on number two so of course the live chat won't be on there which is fine that's a big deal it is what it is but um so yeah there you go all right now for what we came to talk about today so couple of things um that's not what I wanted to click fantastic thanks for that here we go this is what I want um so what we came to talk about today is um this Jersy okay now the difference between Jersey and um the egg lady okay is that the egg lady was her number is like jur 785 her she was dismissed before the deliberations okay we're talking about Alec Murdoch uh South Carolina versus Alec Murdoch for the murder of his uh son and wife and then after that there was uh claims uh made by the defense that um Becky Hill who is or was the clerk of court who's under investigation currently uh there was claims of jury uh tampering that she had uh conversations um about the trial that were inappropriate um with the jurors and that she um somehow influenced their verdict now so there's two um jurors that have come out about this and like I said the juror number 785 who's known as the egg lady she did not actually deliberate however jur Z did did deliberate she Jers Z also testified in the hearing for the um motion for retrial based on these jury tampering claims So currently where uh Alex Murdoch Alec let me say it correctly Alec Murdoch Murdoch where his uh appeal sits currently is with the uh state of South Carolina Supreme Court Court I have a feeling that um they're going to rule on uh an air on the side of caution and give him a retrial which is going to be cost uh the taxpayers in South Carolina more money because again now that he's been tried once um the probability of um being able to seat an unbiased jury 12 people plus extras uh plus alternates so 16 usually um is going to be even more difficult so of course they're probably going to have to uh try it in a different County which you know means um transportation expenses all of the things so it should he get a new trial which I kind I think he's going to because of jurry tampering allegations and I will say for her part jery did testify in the first hearing and she did testify that the comments that Becky Hill made um did influence her verdict which is you know it's important I have to say though listening to the jurors that have spoken out and and listening to that reach listening to that hearing there is something about all of it that doesn't ring true for me I would think that if a person influenced your deliberation your verdict you would be able to site specifically what the person said to you and so that's [Music] um that's where my like issue is there's something that just I'm going to let you guys listen to it and you guys tell me what you have to say um so neat noodle says the W case studies if gets a new trial they have to use the same evidence correct I mean they can't introduce anything not previously introduced oh boy that is a lawyer question um yes I think the I think the correct answer is yes um I don't know about the inability to introduce anything not previously introduced I actually think that what I think what happens in a retrial is it's not like [Music] um they don't I think the procedure goes pretty much the same as the first trial prior to the first trial meaning um there will be motions about the evidence there will be arguments about what evidence can come in will come in won't come in and so if the um the I think the state has to use uh the same evidence however the defense can introduce new evidence and the Jud the trial judge will hear arguments from both the state and the defense deciding whether or not this evidence can be admitted now this is what I think will happen if there is a retrial I think that if there is a retrial um the bare minimum of the financial crimes will come in see that is how judge Newman ruled initially however Mr Griffin when he was doing the cross-examination of some of the state's Witnesses because of the way that he the the subject matter of his questions he is the one that opened the door to more of the financial crimes coming in and I don't think that he will make that mistake twice so um I you know I think that uh that is what we will see that's different I think really what it comes down to for me personally is that yes um the um Financial crimes were like interesting just to hear about on their face for me they didn't move me one way or another as far as whether he um killed Paul and Maggie or not okay for me what it was is that um kennel video that's been you know from Paul's phone that is what in my for me personally I stayed on the fence I watched I waited I paid attention um but it really tipped the scales for me to guilty because he absolutely categorically denied being out there and um the timeline was so tight for him to have denied being out there when he was actually out there is in the critical time was in my opinion what tipped the scales for me to believe that um he is guilty of this crime so that's um you know that's how I feel about it all right so um I think what we should do is we're going to watch um interview um with uh Jersey and then I want to refresh you guys um about her um testimony in the um the the subsequent hearing so I think that's where we're going to start I have closed captions turned on the audio is turned on allow to add this to the stream and we will get started are y'all ready all right here we go Mandy tell me as as you sit here uh today I'm sure people have to be asking you or people at home watching this may be wondering why come forward now and speak out now about this um I I guess um with Myra's new book coming out I just was going to be there with her and just some of the things that happened okay and taking these in turn Myra you're referring to Myra Crosby who was known as the egg lady for a long time time she was dismissed from the deliberating panel because of speaking about the case to three people um she's writing a book you said yes ma'am okay um and then the other thing you said in addition to that to support her and be there with her in the interview you said some other things what other things Mandy okay so right away I just want to cheick in some tar TRS um one thing I want to point out is that there is a very uh there's a clear delay between the interviewer and uh Mandy here so take that into consideration um it's not that she's taking so take you can tell when she hears the question okay so that's not the delay that I'm talking about but there is a definite delay in once she hears the question articulating an answer and there is just something I I cannot put my finger on it I can not I can't articulate what it is but let's keep watching and maybe I will um maybe I'll figure it out maybe I can put it into words for you guys all right here we go you know I have to pause for commentary because fair use morning and so good to see you baby other things like what do you mean uh well I was just asking you what you mean you said I asked you why I speak out now and you said well partly because Myra's book to be there with her and then because of some other things I just wanted to know what those other things are I guess because um it's it's kind of hard to say um what do you mean it's hard to say ma'am see this is where it's bother this is where it's problematic for me I'm gonna really try to be um nicer I'm not going to be so harsh on her but I'm you know come on uh no wean baby this is not the egg lady the egg lady's name is Myra this is Mandy the egg lady didn't actually deliberate she was dismissed before they got to that point where they were drawing names um no yes yes before they she wasn't yeah she was dismissed before they picked the uh 12 jurors and then of course the all then every everybody who else is left over and not pick they become the alternates but she didn't deliberate um she was dismissed prior to that so this is the this lady is is known as or is known as Jersy and she did deliberate but I have a hard time um understanding how you make mention of some other things as if you have a list of things that that are reasons why you sp are speaking out now yet you are H you say it's when you're asked specifically what are those other things you are over here like well that's hard to say well you're the one that said it lady I don't even uh G I Can't let's just keep going let me try to be nicer I guess because his they're trying to throw his case uh well not throw his casee but they're trying to get him another appeal and um and they had an opportunity for us to come out there and so and I just came out just to tell my side and Mandy you were the only juror on the panel uh who said at the hearing conducted by Justice toll that you were improperly influenced by Becky Hill I want to take a listen together to some of what you said uh and this is where you discussed the point where you said Beck Hill told you to quote unquote watch his actions oh I hold on a second did you hear Miss Becky I didn't even realize this part was in here so that's good because um let's see um okay um that's good so I mean I have her testimony I've I got it already ready to go so let's see what they play on here and that'll maybe save us some time and I can keep this to the lunch hour um so toin says jenl is it her testimony at the hearing that is leading to a mistrial well it's technically not a mistrial because she's the lone juror of all the jury jury members that testify at this hearing she's the one juror that actually said that Becky what the things that Becky Hill said the comments that she made the conversations that she had influenced her verdict all of the other jur said no they didn't it did nothing that she said they based their verdicts basically on what they were supposed to which is the evidence however um so this is the trial they're about to the hearing they're going to play right now that is the first appeal that's the initial appeal they have appealed this um motion all the way to the state uh Supreme Court the South Carolina state supreme court and they are going to um I have no idea when their answer is due back but they are taking a look at it and so that's what's going on it's because the this judge um that were that's on the screen right now she said that she didn't find Becky Hill's testimony credible she didn't find jur Z's testimony credible and quite frankly she felt like the testimony that was offered by all of the other jurors um outweighed those you know any you know outweighed everything and they weren't influenced and so um she said you know no I'm not his motion for a new trial was denied by this judge by this circuit now it's escalated you know basically think about it like the appeals process think about it like um when you call to a call center to comp you know to talk right you have an issue with a bill right and you get the representative that's who this is okay and then you um say all right well you're not resolving my issue to my satisfaction I want to speak to your supervisor right and then that supervisor is like not resolving your ISS issue to their satisfaction so you speak to the supervisor of all the supervisors that is the state um Supreme Court and then um the supervisor of like speaking to the state sup speaking to the US Supreme Court would be like speaking to the owner finally you're not get none of the supervisors can help you but the now you're you're done and you want to speak to the owner so there you you go that's how I think about it all right here we go Hill make any comment about this case before your verdict yes ma'am if yes what did M Hill [Music] say to watch his actions to watch his actions what [Music] else to watch him closely uh and then the she uh okay so what did Becky Hill do should she have said that no she should not have any contact with the jurors Beyond saying uh the jury the jurors need more water the jurors need tissues the jurors um you know they're Lun order that is what Becky Hill's job is she is the conduit between the the court and the jury the only time that the judge speaks directly to the jury is when he or she asks them at the beginning of the day did you read anything look at anything talk to anybody that question then the admonishment at the end of the day right but during the trial the judge doesn't interact with the jury beyond that and that is why the clerk of court is so important because they're a conduit and she should never have spoken about um the trial given instructions in any capacity she should never have said watch him watch his actions watch what he says right but what I haven't heard yet from the jury that have come out is don't you think he's guilty or what or after Alec testifies didn't you find that his like crying was faked or didn't he seem insincere I I find that just simply stating to watch him although inappropriate how in the actual f is that influencing I just doesn't make sense to me and this is also true Becky Hill does have people to handle that and she should have stayed in her office she should not have had anything um to to that but she is the conduit between the jury and the court so the if the jurors need anything they typically tell the bayth like um neat noodle pointed out here and they relay it to the kerk of court and the Kirk of Clerk of Court relays it to the judge there's a lot of you know there's she shouldn't have had anything to do with the juror's period that's it the end and it is in inappropriate and now it's going to cost the taxpayers even more money this was an expensive trial to begin with and now it's going now he's GNA he's gonna end up I think with a with a retrial because whenever there is the air of um jury misconduct that our whole system of justice is based on juries in this country and so I I don't think that I think the South Carolina Supreme Court is going to rule that he needs a new trial because of this so thanks Becky all right here we go the uh the Justice uh uh then asked you Mand um how did those statements influence your verdict um would you answer that question here for us please that she made it seem like he was you know already guilty and so when when you were deliberating um walk us through that please are you saying that the statements affected your deliberations or were you unable to separate them from you know the facts and the evidence and you know is the the oath that you take you know says You must just focus on what's presented in the courtroom um I guess kind of explain to us how um how those statements might have influenced your ultimate decision well at first I voted undecided and then like I said um in the other interview that some of the um the other jurors and some just thinking about like everybody was ready to go everybody was ready to get it over with and um so then that's whenever I had voted guilty and I want to welcome your attorney Joe Mulla yeah now she's got an attorney let me just say this okay the question was Mandy how is what Becky Hill said to you how did that influence your decision and your answer was well I was unde ided and then the other jurors were ready to get it over with so to me that implies that you're implying that it was the other uh jur jury members that uh caused you to vote the way they did not Becky that's what I'm inferring from your implication ma'am you have you have the question is about Becky and you haven't explained at all how Becky influenced you let's Okay this is going to be probably a long live if I don't quit pausing it we're seven minutes in out of a 21 minute interview we're in big trouble y'all all right here we go uh someone uh Friend of Court TV network been on many times before uh throughout the the progression of the Murdock case uh I told our viewers earlier and so you both know full disclosure we had a lot of tech difficulties um connecting with both and we were also trying to connect with Myra Crosby uh the egg lady juror as she became known as uh as well as Joe you represent her too um so Joe kind of take us back to when uh you came to represent both Myra and and Mandy and kind of walk us through how you've guided them throughout the process uh after uh the trial in uh making notifications uh particularly Mandy hear notifications about improper influence sure sure good morning Julie um I first became involved when Myra Crosby asked if I could get the press off her back so to speak and and similarly um sometime thereafter I began conversations with Mandy for the same purpose and talked with a couple of other jurors somewhere along in those uh succeeding months uh the defense began to contact juros and and that was in support of their ultimate motion for new the defense contacted me and I did not contact them uh they asked if I would allow them to talk to these two jurors and any others that I was involved with I made arrangements I didn't go to the meeting they interviewed them and they secured from both these ladies affidavits and I I will say this about Myra her book as she has said on other programs and I regret she couldn't be on today her writing a book was a matter of frust it was not a book she began to write while she was on the jury unlike others um in situation she obviously struggles with you a little bit this morning this television thing being on television having being the center of attention it makes her uncomfortable I think her affidavit and there are two of them speak for themselves uh and and you know I sympathize with you Mandy I think this is just hard it's uh difficult being in that very small community but I think that that what as she has explained it to me and I'm not trying to put words in her mouth or interpret for her but the sum total of her affidavits were that the Clerk of Court's conversations with her and with the jury were such as to influence them in a way to reach a guilty verdict that's my understanding from her that's what I think she told the court that's what she placed in the affidavit and she said in a subsequent Aid affidavit presented to Justice toll that she felt pressured and had Miss Hill's will imposed upon her to reach a guilty verdict before she ever walked in the Jury Room and okay but sir I'd like to just make this argument to counter that first argument she's sitting here today right and in her affidavit unable to give an example of something that Becky Hill said that caused her to feel influenced in a way that made her vote the way that she voted for the verdict that's number one number two as she sat here today her explanation of other things was that the jur other jury members had their had deliberated for as long as they were going to deliberate she still had some maybe lingering doubts lingering questions she wanted to deliberate longer but she felt pressure from the other jaars to vote guilty now to me it seems these are separate situations was Becky Hill inappropriate yes she shouldn't have had any conversations at all about the trial in any way shape or form with the jury Point Blank period the end okay but the way that this Miss Mandy is explaining it over here this is why there's something off to me to from for me personally when you've experienced something okay and you're talking about your experience and it is the truth you're able to to tell the truth the story doesn't change the core story when you retell the story time and time again the core details don't change do you maybe remember smaller details sure because your memory gets J a little bit but the core story stays the same and this lady for all intents and purposes seems to have when it cut when it's when it comes right down to it when it counts she is incapable for whatever reason of articulating the same details that she that she stated in her affidavit that's my problem and I don't understand where the disconnect is why didn't you speak to a a baith why didn't you tell somebody along the way why did you say nothing is it because you didn't know that she wasn't allowed to be doing that I mean I think that the question that was posed to the jury each and every single morning of trial at the start of the trial day judge Newman would ask about anyone because no one was supposed to be talking to them about the trial to me anyone and no one are very clear so why when if this was going on why didn't you say something then and I I just I there's a disconnect for me also by the way hey Ali babe thank you so much for last night um but also happy labor day to everybody I I forgot to say that too I I just there's some there is a disconnect here that I just cannot get my I cannot wrap my brain around I'm having such a difficult time with this let's keep listening and I need to be quiet for a while here we go and then of course the jury room was a different kind of a crucible but there was pressure from both directions Julie Joe appreciate that I have another clip uh and Mandy this is a clip um during that hearing uh with Justice tol uh where you're talking about Becky Hill pressuring you uh to speak to the media after the verdict let's take a listen uh to that and uh to Becky Hill's uh response after the verdict and immediately before sentencing Miss Hill pressured the jury to speak as a group to reporters from a television show was is that an accurate statement of what she said yes ma'am did you at all pressure the jurors to speak or did you just tell them that it was their option to speak or not and here's the contact information there was I did not pressure the jury to speak okay so you hear what Becky Hill said there under oath um Mandy what's your response to that when we were deliberating it was more of like she it felt like you know like she was trying to get us to like hurry up like that's the way I felt um I guess is kind of hard to to think about it now um but I know the smokers in there they were ready to leave um oh my God blame the smokers and I don't know M let's talk a little bit about um the verdict the jury unanimously voted guilty you were one of those guilty votes uh at the time the judge asked all the jurors to raise their hand if they were in agreement with the verdict um you did then the judge even went through the polling of the members of the jury and asked all of you individually if you agreed with it you said yes are you saying today here and now you no longer agree with the verdict that you made I would love for the behavior panel to do something with this I still had doubts um about the verdict even after whenever I was finally at home and started thinking about everything I wish that I could go back and change it but you know I can't so tell us please Mandy what makes you go back and wish you could change it yeah tell us something Mandy you're not really telling us anything lady and I don't know if you're just shy or what the deal is but come on I still had more questions um that I felt like didn't get answered sorry um so I guess if I could go you know have go back and redo whatever that night bab good to see you then I probably would have said not guilty based on what that's thank you Lord I couldn't do it y'all even her lawyer knows like I said in the other interview um you know they never found their murder weapons and I I know they don't find them all the time back AA I love that you guys Express Yourself they never look for anybody else holy in my chat I love it and um I had a little difficulty hearing you did you reference the murder weapons a moment ago is that what you were saying just Joe's nodding I just wanted to make sure I was clear yes go ahead please yeah yes okay um yeah like I said um they didn't um they never found them the murder weapons and I know like on the other interview a lot of times they don't find and um murder weapons that's true that's correct do you think Alec Murdoch disposed of the murder weapons I can't say that I have no idea now tell me in in going through this trial um being a deliberating juror you know and was one thing and then all the aftermath and we're still in in in the aftermath right I mean we we may not even have a firm resolution depending on what the the Supreme Court in South Carolina decides Mandy what's it been like for you give give us give all of our viewers watching at home an idea of of how this trial has changed your life bless this interviewer he's really trying it's like Poland's feet it really hasn't changed my life um much uh I don't really pay too much attention to like social media back them wait a minute wait a minute wait a minute wait a minute it's better it's f is f didn't your attorney just say like three minutes ago it could have been 30 minutes ago I don't know I find this interview completely tedious and it's not on the fault of the interviewer it is on the fault of the interviewee okay uh but didn't your attorney just say that the reason you contacted him was because you wanted to get the press off your backs now by show of hands in the chat put a one in the chat if you think being hounded by press is a lifechanging event and sub and also deliberate you know now you're and and this is another thing okay that's the first question okay put it to in the chat if you don't all right then then I'm gonna ask the second question I would think that being a juror on a murder trial period would change your life because most people don't come into contact with True Crime cases on a regular like that right on a regular basis and even those of us who do cover True Crime I'm given to understand that covering True Crime covering a trial from the outside of the trial right is very different than being in that court room day after day and actually watching the process in person so I would think just you know in that way it would be a life-changing event then coupled with the fact that it is such a high-profile case that that would also alter your life a little bit but yet here we go I I just I can't do it with this lady okay here we go um because everybody is entitled to their own opinion the only thing that still kind of sticks with me with the trial is um the um the pictures of um Paul and Maggie because they were they were gruesome but that is basically the only thing so like I said I don't really get on I mean I get on social media but if I see anything that's about Jersey it really doesn't I I ignore it oh good I'm glad that you'll be ignoring you're smart to do that and talk with with your attorney Joe Malla here um can help guide you you know through all of this and what comes next um Mandy thank you for being so open and answering our questions this morning we really appreciate your time and Joe wanted to offer you the last word here is there anything else you think that's important for people to know about this process or for what um or with what your clients you Mandy pierce with us today and then Myra Cosby uh the quotequote the egg lady your other client who unfortunately we couldn't connect with this morning anything uh you'd like us to know yeah Julie thanks two quick things I won't make a summation but I think excuse me just a second um attorney sir um what I'd like to say is if I understand the interviewer she's just she's making uh the best out of a very difficult situation um but I have to say um if this is this if this is Mandy being open I really would love to see what she is when she's closed off because yikes on bikes all right now let's get to your closing thoughts that are not a summation and go I think it is really important uh for viewers and and people to understand it's natural for people to have to second guess an important decision they made what Mandy and what Myra have have experienced here is a second guessing that began with their concerns that the state had not proven its case before the Jury Room was ever entered by the jury they had questions then Myra was then removed Mandy continued she had question questions because of what was told to her by the clerk of court as she has said under oath she had questions going into the Jury Room so now today this morning still having questions it's not like she woke up yesterday and decided maybe I made the wrong decision she's had that concern and that's why she's come forward because she feels as Myra Crosby feels and other jurors testified and have talked with the defense and have experienced or expressed the same concerns now I will say secondarily responsible commentators should be focused on the jury tamper tampering element of this case I I know a commentator on your program yesterday criticized uh these two jurors for coming forward criticize them for okay I consider myself to be a responsible commentator and yes I have concerns over over allegations of jury tempering as I just discussed prior because our system of justice in the United States is based on a jury okay I get it however it is within my discretion and part of commentary is opinion and I'm not criticizing her for coming forward what I'm criticizing uh is that there is seems to be some type of Disconnect between what's in the affidavit that she swore to and the things that she is saying now she is having a very difficult time articulating exactly what was done and in my opinion that goes to credibility I have cons I think that likely murall is GNA get another trial because of the allegations of jury tampering they're going to air on the side of caution it is what it is but I don't appreciate that sir which I know you're not talking to me because you've you've referenced the other commentator on the channel prior but I think that's where people are having a hard time hi I'm people it's me reaching their juror Oath by talking to the clerk of court or saying that they talk to the clerk of court that just is wrongheaded and it just doesn't accurately reflect the system the first thing the jurors were told by judge Newman at the beginning of the trial your guide through this process your liaison with the court will be the clerk of court so it is quite natural when the clerk of court that person who is in charge of you for the next six weeks comes to you and asked questions as these ladies have said occurred and then used her position to persuade as these ladies have said there's nothing mysterious about that there's nothing unor about that there's nothing improper of these jurors responding to the person they've been in told is in charge of them okay but what is problematic and what is a cause for concern is that when it comes down to it when they're asked to test not not egg lady that's different but Myra uh Mandy here Jersy when she's asked to testify about what she swore to in an affidavit she is unable to elaborate she's unable to speak about exactly what it is that Becky Hill did that caused her to change to to to vote the way that she did so that's where the problem comes in I'm not criticizing them for coming forward I'm criticizing the fact that they've come forward and and have decided to do interviews right and they've and they're unable to talk about what it is that actually happen uh egg lady is much more capable of articulating but she's clearer about what she says occurred but um Mandy here is really struggling and at the end of the day it really doesn't I mean egg lady Myra her it's you know the South the South Carolina state supreme court is going to listen to read her affidavit and everything like that and and and take her testimony and and stuff into consideration but really she didn't deliberate on the jury so it that's kind of irrelevant at this point Mandy did and when you are testifying and you and you can't tell what happened that's a problem love you too Gracie thank you I hope that was intended for me I just this if she had just come forward testified at the tri at the hearing for a retrial and that was the end of it that would be one thing but she didn't she decided to join up with the egg lady who has a book out and go on a a fox program and do an entire interview and then she decided that she was going to do this interview and I'm sorry not sorry but when you do an interview you're subject to criticism the int please continue so for a commentator a lawyer to say there's something wrong that's just shows a a lack of knowledge about the process well and I believe what was said wasn't that it was wrong uh if memory serves me correctly Joe uh What uh attorney Eric Bland was talking about was why now why now are uh your two clients coming forward why speaking out um has there been any influence anything at all that's occurred you know from the time the trial ended till this point uh so it was more in the form of a question um but thank you for Defending Your for defending your guest about what happened and actually quite frankly those are fair questions it's a question not an accusation and you as an attorney sir should know the difference I'm not even an attorney and I know the difference in fact I'm not even a high school graduate I got my good enough diploma and I know the difference this is why we give everybody a chance to to speak this is why we wanted to ask your clients directly and um we actually you know wanted you all to come on that day after we saw that uh the fox interview was done and um there was unavailable ility As I understood it with your clients and so um Eric who represents six of the other jurors just said that they uh were not improperly influence so um at any rate the court isn't going to consider anything that's being discussed on this program it's only what's in the transcripts as you know Joe uh that they're going to consider as they make their decision um but um it's been wonderful talking with them both we'd love to consider the uh continue the conversation um and if if you'd consider having Myra pick another date that might work well for her with love to speak with her too um yeah let's so there you have it you guys um a AA thank you so much you're not the average cookie though jenl for the record thank you thank you thank you and when you have six jurors saying no right and then you have a juror saying yes she was unduly influenced yet can't talk about or give examples of how she felt uh influence or things that were said to her that influenced her it's problematic in my opinion um but there you go take that for what it's worth now on to Boon okay guys tonight is the night no backing out no putting it off we G Talk Boon and I got stuff to tell y'all very excited to to discuss Sarah Boone with y'all because I have been doing some research some thinking some pondering and I have some stuff I want to uh talk to you guys about and get your opinions on and uh but the last thing I'm going to leave with you with before I do the outro is late on the 30th of uh August the uh Clerk of Courts uh uh the clerk's website was updated to include Sarah Boon's newest attorney claiming her basically he declared he's her attorney I like to be I I like to think of it as you know uh he's claiming her he's not new phone who disc this is not a situation with uh like with Leticia Stout saying that Jose bayz was going to repres present her and Jose Bas was interviewed and asked about it and he all new phone who this I don't know her so there you go um uh anywh who and I because some of the stuff I want to talk to you guys about is you know records and things like that but also there's something I want to play for you guys and I want to get your opinions on it uh tonight I shared it on my community tab it is uh from mentor lawyer um and I want to get you guys's I want to hear what you guys think about what Mentor lawyer had to say I'm curious about that so um I want to thank you guys all so very very much for spending your lunch hour with me those of you on the replay thank you so much for spending this 57 minutes with me I appreciate it very very much if you haven't done so Jimmy favor give your girl a thumbs up or a thumbs down whichever way you're feeling today no judgment what happens at the ward stays at the ward all right you guys have a great rest of your day and I will see all of you hopefully tonight [Music] bye cuz it's Friday you ain't got no job and you ain't got [ __ ] to do [Applause] [Music] [ __ ] you no valicious content or effort was towards it no milicia finish on the to it up I'm about to level up bring me down I'm on to hide right now I'm living my best life and y'all can't take that from me he is 2 minutes later we do a little mad [Music] [Music] and you know this man