what are you talking about this is some of the dumbest I've ever heard in my life bro here's the problem oh now he's talking about Ukraine and Russia he has a very exacting plan it's tucked in there between the health care plan and the infrastructure plan but he's got a very firm it's like step by step step one open Twitter step two call somebody names step three touch my peee step four ask if Melania is ever coming home step five touch my peeee again yeah that was quite an intro wasn't it I mean it just sort of sums up the experience of watching Trump on the Le Freedman podcast seriously though I know Trump is doing the podcast circuit but this one was a downer such low energy from both of them in Trump's attempt to sort of moderate his personality he he just coming up boring I don't know if you know this but some people call you a fascist yeah they do so I figure it's all right to call them a communist yeah they call me a lot worse than I call them a lot of people listening to this myself included that doesn't think that KL is a communist I believe you have to fight fire with fire politics is a dirty game it is a dirty game that's certainly true I think uh we would probably have a better world if everybody in Congress took some mushrooms perhaps first of all medical marijuana has been amazing the list of clients that went to the island has not been made public yeah it's it's very interesting isn't it dude what is this [ __ ] Bro dude it doesn't even feel like they're in the same room does it following is a conversation with Donald Trump on this dude why does this guy even have a fan base bro this guy is like the biggest low personality human being I've ever seen in my life bro who watches this [ __ ] I could never watch this guy dude he is so like oh my god dude I'm fing bored we're 1 minute and 7 seconds in dude and I'm already bored The Lex Freedman podcast now well most of it was just kind of the playing of the greatest hits like this they coming in from prisons and jails they're coming in fromal institutions and insane asylums there the street criminals the street they jaob oh yeah and they're being given to our country he's just lying traffickers oh he's just lying we're destroying our country this is a sin what's been allowed to take place over the last four years we're destroying our country it's a sin and we'll see dude Mike Johnson's probably giv the priest a hand right now because of that sin there was one section in particular that really stood out and that was Lex coming in trying to use this podcast to help Donald Trump distance himself from Project 2025 when you watch this clip I think you'll see we debunk this one with Precision let's go accordion hands let me ask you about project 2025 so you've publicly said that you don't have any direct connection to nothing I know nothing about it and they know that too all right here he goes now we're getting into the meat dude we got to we got to go back here for a second because here goes right here goes with their attempt to disavow from Project 2025 but first before we go into this if we look at project 2025 Trump is mentioned 312 times and you'll see if you look at these look at all these mentions over here 312 times because all the people who've made this worked in the Trump Administration right look at all these guys let's look we got we got Jonathan Barry we got Adam candib Ken Cinelli Rick Dearborn right we got Thomas Gilman Mandy gunera Dennis Kirk right all of these people MOA Peter Navaro everybody who made this thing these are all Trump people okay look at this 312 mentions of trump okay Trump is all over this they mention his executive orders they have quotes from Trump and and one other thing we know about Trump and project 2025 is the firing the mass firing of these Union government employees Donald Trump in his last Administration did the schedule F okay where he tried to create a scenario that would allow him to mass fire which is the step one of this thing he already did that tried to do that in his first Administration but look at this it is Trump City bro 312 mentions of trump okay look at this restore Trump religious and moral exemptions to the contraceptive mandate huh that's weird that they want to restore all of Trump's programs and they're constantly talking about Donald Trump okay reinstating Trump's plan this Trump plan and that Trump plan and that Trump plan so he's saying that these foundations that he's spoken at these guys that work for him that are all his good buddies and confidants that have a plan that mentions him and his policies and a policy that he tried to implement his first thing 300 times but he's telling us all that he knows nothing nothing about this look at all those trumps bro holy [ __ ] holy [ __ ] yeah there we go all right now back back to Trump's lies all right but here it is here's where they're going to try and like sandwash this thing we know they're lying but this is a big one this is Trump is doing his best to distance himself from this here we go let me ask you about project 2025 so you've publicly said that you don't have any direct connection to nothing I know nothing about it and they know that too Democrats know that and I purposely haven't read it yeah because I want to say to you I don't I have no idea what no IDE it's easier than saying I read it and you know all of the things no I purposely haven't read it and I've heard about it I've heard about things that are in there that he just said I know nothing about it but now he's heard about it and he's heard about things that are in there that I don't like I don't like and there are some things in there that everybody would like but there are things that uh I don't like at all but but again trumpy if you've never read it how do you know there's things in there that you don't like at all right and I think it's uh unfortunate that they put it out but it doesn't mean anything because it has nothing to do with me Pro all right so so but trumpy why does it mention you 312 times take 25 has it has absolutely nothing to do with me the thing that really bothered me about this was the way Lex kept leading him with the question where the question wasn't even a question it was more a setup for Trump to be able to divulge certain campaign points and I got to be honest I I had to go back and watch it later we only watched about half it was extraordinarily boring lot of it was lies he never challenged Trump at all he did not push back on a single thing and again as what often happens with these Trump podcast interviews it's not really an interview it's not really a challenging of political positions all it really ends up being is a type of advertisement feeding into this idea of Donald Trump is a larger than life character while he never provides a single answer and it's getting hard to cover these because they are so excruciating one of the great things about people from the business world is they're often great dealmakers and you're a great dealmaker oh my God you've talked about the war in Ukraine dude you're a great dealmaker where did they get that how is Trump a good deal maker again like we don't have that information we had a a tariff war with China okay we had a promise of a foxcon plant in Wisconsin that never material realized he couldn't get an infrastructure bill passed right they you know what I'm saying like like what deals he couldn't accomplish a deal to get his wall or where's the health care plan that he was trying to negotiate right he could he has not gotten any good deals okay he has not gotten any good deals boss he hasn't the kind of Destruction that we're witnessing now nobody's ever seen I mean it's it's terrible thing nobody's ever seen bro we had world wars where all of Europe was destroyed what the is he talking about dude like you know what I mean this is one of the things that really has gotten so old about Trump is his constant hyperbole fredman's probably sitting over there nodding right while jerking it between answers the carrot and the stick I mean what is he even talking about bro if we can go back to China on negotiation how do we a avoid war with China in the century dude what is he talking about there's like what is this question Lex the is wrong with you bro what would the purpose of War be between the US and China there boss like China is a a burgeoning massive economy and it is funded almost almost exclusively by us manufacturing and our our consumption of Chinese made Goods so what are you talking about you know what I'm saying there is no reason for China or the us to go to war if the China went to war with the US it would deconstruct China it's hyperbole it's a lack of substance frankly it's not even good entertainment anymore Trump has lost his Edge he has lost the passion now he's just an old tired negative guy spewing lies and trying to make us all forget that he's a seual abuser and a felon all I can say overall is this thing's aing disaster okay Lex sorry buddy I know you got a media Empire but you know what you don't deserve it this thing's a piece of crap and I told you that on Twitter because you've offered no challenge you have no requirement of Truth or evidentiary backing you are simply offering space on your viral show to another viral entity so you guys can actually celebrate in virality and have more like pure personal gain but you don't have any requirement of there being an actual transference of Truth or or even challenging your subject to bring any type of receipt for the thing they say man like like you are like a 5c Tick Tock of somebody shaking their pelvis that's what you are you're the journalistic media equivalent of me shaking my nuts in front of a camera on Tik Tok dude it's truly disappointing boss it is