Episode 2 | NFL QB Ranking | 20-11 | Olympic committee | Steve Kerr | Jayson Tatum | Jaylen Brown 

Intro [Music] welcome back to another episode of are you nuts it's me your boy Kyle again I got Ethan Caleb and of course y'all favorite un we're back to have another discussion about starting quarterbacks in the league picking back up from we left off last week uh we gave our list from 32 through 20 so we're going to recap and then we're going to come back and go 19 through 11 3 2 1 1. Intro Video [Music] are you nuts how y'all doing today man can't complaint yeah man I'm very I'm interested in this uh you know this second half of the list let's really see what's going on here going to be the part the list yeah yeah we already know Ethan got the the worst most terrible list but but we G to see Hey listen Hey listen e you got a chance to get your together listen and U let's see if you can turn this thing around but I don't think you're gonna be able to we gonna find out how you doing K I'm cool I'm cool you know um ready for this uh upcoming NFL season you know okay all right I feel you all right so before we go to the to our 19 through 11 uh you guys we G to recap so uh Ethan you want to go first and recap you just go uh from 32 through uh 20 sure sure 2. QB Rankings 32-20 Recap sure so at 32 I had bodnick 31 I had Dan Daniel Jones 30 I had Sam DN 29 I had jacobe brassette 28 I had will Levis 27 Garner muu 26 Jayden Daniels 25 Bryce young 24 Caleb Williams 23 Derek Carr 22 Anthony Richardson 21 Gino and then at 20 I had Deshawn Watson all right Ethan uh your list thank you um questionable and debatable last week but uh we gonna carry on this week uh you got your list yeah I got my list so so so I started like again I just want to recap for for anyone who who didn't see the first episode go back and watch it it's hella funny but um I had I did my my list a little bit different I have um uh the rookies at top of my list just because we don't know really what they are and then you know that doesn't mean that's where they're going to be at the end of the season but that's what I thought you know uh would be fair to everyone just put them you know on at the bottom of the list and then we'll go from there so uh at 32 I had bo Knicks um then I had Jake Drake May I had JJ McCarthy uh Jayden uh MCD oh yeah Jaden McDaniels Caleb Williams then I Have Bryce Young Daniel Jones Garden MW will Levis Deshawn Watson Kyler Murray uh Anthony Richardson and Baker Mayfield yeah I know you was getting on me with my list last week but we have almost identical list bro especially we get towards n n you was going you was going wild with the dere car but we'll we'll pick that back up well in that case let me go ahead let me go ahead and put my list out there since I was going wild with the Derek car uh starting at 32 dere car slander bro listen I didn't know we had a Derek Car stand in the chat bro I didn't know that okay y g make y gonna make me have to defend Derek car I don't dere car like that but come on man don't be don't be disrespectful by all means please uh with 32 we got uh Denver's quarterback room whatever they whatever you want to call that uh 31 we have Daniel Jones uh after that we have Gardner Mitchell who is not a starting quarterback at the Raiders uh will Levis at 29 jacobe Brett uh or Drake May or uh uh I forgot buddy name who played well in the first pie the game uh JJ McCarthy at 27 Jane Daniels at 26 uh Bryce young uh 25 Derek Carr 24 Lord of Mercy uh Kayla Williams 23 uh deshun Watson Anthony Richardson at 21 and the cap off I had kin Murray at 20 okay all right and then finish it off K let's go at 32 I have the trash the stash Gardner mu at the bottom listen man gner mu is my guy man I don't care what y'all talking about listen listen trash is trash anyway and I just want to purpose this by saying um even though my list is numbered my list is more teer based than anything um so uh at 31 I have B Nicks at 30 I Have Bryce young at 29 I have JJ McCarthy at 28 I have Drake May at 27 J Daniels at 26 I have Daniel Jones at 25 at will Lis at 24 out Caleb Williams at 20 three I have Anthony Richardson at 22 I have Kyler Murray at 21 I have Gino Smith and at 20 average Sean Watson all right and that wraps up the first uh third of the bottom tier quarterbacks per se um now this will be the most interesting tier of quarterbacks I think uh going forward so uh Ethan if you want to get us started we're going to go from 19 do you guys want to do 11 you want to include 10 today 19 11 wild I think 19 through 11 but I think it's diservice that y'all want me to go first well we want to keep the same you don't want to keep the same order we don't have switch it up okay all right so go ahead we can we can switch it up we can switch it up you could go last because that trash list we don't even want to hear from that list so you don't want to go we could you could go last how about how you know how they say say The Best For Last no save the worst for last in this case you almost trip yourself over that how about we get the worst first go ahead you go first hey hey hey you know you know you know I'm the people's Champion the people rock with me y'all know what it is so so so listen so listen I'mma start 3. QB Rankings 19-11 (Unc's List) it off okay let's get it so I'mma tell you the listen then I'm g go back and I'm G tell you why I'm on the list and I'm G tell you now Ethan if you if you got now uh if you if you interrupt me one more time okay it's going to be some furniture moving around this model you understand me what was your 20 what was your 20 again his 20 was Kyler Murray yeah okay no no no no no my 20 was Baker oh sorry Baker okay was Baker maker mind you he's saying that because he doesn't want me to interrupt how trash that list is but I'm let you let him get through the list and then you can talk at the end of the list listen I don't want him to talk at all if you if you really really want to say what I really want to say but that's neither here nor there but listen check me out all right so at 19 I got Derek Carr that's my guy okay 18 Gino Smith uh at uh 17 I have Justin Herbert uh that's probably higher on uh a lot of people have him higher or we gonna talk about Justin Herbert and he better not none of y'all top 10 because we FNA get into it let's talk about him let's talk about go ahead now 16 I got Russell Wilson uh 15 I got Trevor Lawrence 14 uh first cousins all right uh 13 Tua 12 Jordan love and 11 jillen H we going to do 10 or we we G to stop by 11 N Stop 11 you might as well just burn that whole entire list that list is egregious like just burn it I don't even want to talk about it just burn the whole entire thing you want me to throw my list in the garbage dumpster fire you see what stories went when they dropped into that INF ferace that's what that list belongs disintegrated burn ashes that list is garbage that L is you have you have Justin me off Justin at 17 okay I I just want to let you know I just want to let you know I just want to let you know okay when it's your time to go don't expect me to be saying nothing I'm G be all on your guess what but guess what guess what you don't have to say anything because my list is beautiful yours is trash garbage the epitome of trash so can I go now landfill throw it in a landfill so okay so that obviously so um I'm G let you go so obviously that's our first beef there is Justin Herby 17 so so y so y'all done with y'all little no I'm just saying so you saying he's a bottom half quarterback I'm yeah hell yeah he's a bottom half quarterback and we gonna talk about why and you know what while I'm going what I want you to do while I'm going go look at the stats go sure sure got them up make sure you have those those ready I have them I have them go go ahead go ahead I'm listening all right so 19 all right Derek Carr I know y'all y'all quiet Ethan if you're talking I swear to God back you really gonna make me lose my goddamn mind now and I'm trying to keep calm okay I'm trying to really keep calm all right you already got my blood pressure high and I ain't even start my goddamn list yet okay so all right like I said Derek Carr 19 all right everybody hating on um Derek Carr I know Derek Carr was on somebody list I think it was you K it was on Kyle's list uh last week okay let's talk about it Derek Carr was um 13th in the league in in in in uh yards per game all right 25 touchdowns eight interceptions that was better than the MVP the leag Lamar Jackson okay so when we talk about Derek Carr you guys are talking about see this is where me and you guys are gonna part ways because you guys look at the totality of something some or or somebody's work and say oh well he didn't get to the playoff so then that means that he's not very good okay but what you don't talk about is what you don't talk about is what you don't talk about is how terrible that offensive line was last year okay the Saints he was getting beat up all right he was getting beat the Grits understand so so how many quarterback I don't care what quarterback you are you can be Patrick Mahomes you could be Tom Brad you can be any of the greats if you apply pressure there's only so much you can get hit okay before you start to fold I don't care who it is right so that offensive line was horrible last year I think he had a good year we talked about you know what his what type of receiving core he had okay you guys say ol is is top 10 I don't think he's top 10 but if y'all like him I don't he said top 10 but he he's a service he's a good receiver he not just okay so so so if he so if he's not if he's a top 10 if he's not top 10 so you're trying to tell me you have a guy down at 25 or where you we had him and you don't even have a top 10 I you D Derek Car you had him in the 20s he don't have a top 10 receiver but yeah you what are you what are you telling me what are you telling me he's supposed to throw it and catch it so so you got to have a Ser you have you have to have a Ser a serviceable um uh receiver now if he's not if he don't if he's not top 10 then what's the second receiver where he at in the on in the league okay where's the tight end now you're gonna make these guys onedimensional all right we're GNA stop the run we're gonna take Alvin C away from you you ain't got no way to throw the ball to but going want you to have a good season so uh I think Derek Carr is a top uh a top 20 quarterback um and and the numbers and the numbers really prove that right it doesn't show up in wins but if you look at the numbers just specifically the numbers uh that'll show you that he's top 20 all right after that Gino Smith I thought Gino Smith uh kind of regressed a little bit you know we know the the year that he had two years ago um but that's who he is right he is a really to me an overachieving backup quarterback um and he's never going to be I mean he got them to the playoffs two years ago but I don't think he's ever going to be a guy that that you can that can take you to the Super Bowl but he's a serviceable quarterback you're GNA win games with him he can get you to the playoffs he's he's he's he's that good but I don't think he's good enough to get you get you to you know the the championship game or even the Super Bowl real quick I I was having this discussion about him um again I wasn't really a fan of him the first four years in this Le but would you consider him because a bust means it's tears to a bust would you consider him what would you consider is he a bust to you I don't think he's a I don't I don't I don't think he is a bust and the this is the reason why people put so much emphasis on where you're drafted and where you're drafted is just based off potential right where you're drafted is based on what you did in college but that has no bearing what you going to do in the NFL we've seen guys who have won 100 trophies uh in college and haven't done Dilly squat in the NFL and we have guys who who whether it be injury or whatever reason didn't have a really good collegiate career but have Hall of Fame NFL career right so I think when you when you when you have a draft and you're looking for a quarterback not all these guys are generational talents not all of these guys are starting quarterbacks but it's a draft and you have to pick someone and you you need a quarterback and you you search and you do your diligence and you you try to find the best guy that's going to fit with what you have to do but I don't think he's a bus I think he resurrected his career um I think the first couple years you could consider him a bus but I think he resurrected his career as what he did the last two years obviously got the big contract in Seattle so um I I like I like Gino but but for me honestly at best I think he's a he's a backup quarterback a really good backup quarterback um but um he can win you games as a starting quarterback and and I will say again it does hope his case that he had Sam Donald in his draft class so I will say that okay so so let's let's get into it Justin Herbert I want anybody I want you guys to go around around the board and tell me what has Justin Herbert done for me lately a answer me this question we all know the talent this list is not about Talent right this is not about the r you can make on the field this is not about the velocity and the tight Spirals and look at that pretty ball and look at the off platform drop all that's not what this is about right this is about production okay what have you done has um has Justin Herbert uh has just Define production for me Define define production what you mean by that do you mean success do you mean do those yes it's not yes okay yes it's not just it's not just it's it's it's part it's part of okay again let's talk about now I will give him Grace um his uh previous uh uh coach is God offer right we understand that we we we I understand that okay but at the same time I mean the time management and all that is just awful but he hasn't been available so uh he's had a lot of injuries what go ahead he was hurt last season but the season before last SE threw for 5,000 yards okay this is a list for 2023 2024 care you saying it like he like chronically injured he not chronically injured listen this list is about what you did last year and what I think you're going to do this year I I understand I don't care what you did three years ago I don't care what you did four years I don't care what you did in college I don't care nothing about that he always injured this is a 2024 okay it's going into 2025 NFL football list a quarterback list this is my list this is how I feel not like this but okay okay I'mma tell you what this I'm G tell you how I feel okay he he was hurt Yes again he was hurt last year he make all the throws does he have any playoff wins he has two two I feel you I feel you two two stud receivers he had well they're both gone but he had last year two stud receivers okay tell me what's his tell me what's his win percent I want you to I want you to tell me as a as a as a starting quarterback I I want you to tell me look it up I want you to tell me what his win percentage it's probably off the top it's probably 40 to 45% and so so to me so so that's top 10 worthy in your eyes so now eyes bring my rebuttal to that would be like so last season he had all the talent were on defense and that defense played like a bottom pop defense so he don't have nothing to do with that receiver and that's also on his team mind you mind you they about to they about to cut what's his name mind you so like my thing is like again it's two side they gave up I don't have it in front of me but that def here here's my thing here's my thing you guys so hold on hold on they play A Team game right so you hold against Derek Carr his play with that terrible offensive line that offensive line was bottom third I'm glad you I'm glad you brought line hold on now on you g bring you gonna bring Derek Carr and drop him down because his play even though he was 13th in the Le uh in the league uh 26 26 and eight uh uh uh uh and you're going to tell me because he had had a terrible offensive line oh he he's not he's not any good oh but Justin Herbert's defense you know stop making excuses for this guy man okay and and it's not just you it's on ESP and everybody oh everybody pronostica oh Justin Herbert is top 10 where show it to me where I'm not gonna talk no more Justin Herbert played 13 games last year got sacked 29 times Derek Carr played all 17 games played got sacked 31 times so if that don't tell you the offensive line play right there in the numbers I don't know what does I don't I I don't I don't get it I don't understand what you're trying to say you don't he played five four less four yeah four less games in Derek Carr and got sacked three less times times okay so we're talking about quality of aome line play no but you're making but you're making they went out they went out and drafted a tackle like they went out and drafted like a tackle to protect him so we talking about o line like I can say the same thing I can say the same thing they play they play they listen they play A Team game okay I can say the same me Justin Herbert to me is a middle of the league quarterback ain't nothing you can do or change my mind y'all can put him in the top 10 y'all can put him wherever y'all want to put him I fool you I fo you but let me tell you this it's slanderous he ain't he ain't he ain't higher than 17 I'm sorry I'm he's just not I feel you that's just what it is okay 16 Russell Wilson okay Russell Wilson you know I know everybody said last year you know he got ran out of Denver everything like that but Russell W didn't have a bad season right they shut him down at the um they shut him down um earlier the season I think I don't think he played the last two games oh well yeah yeah yeah I don't think he played the last two games uh because you know with the contract he was going to get make more money um but I thought I thought if you look at the numbers he had a good he had a good season he was service he was serviceable right he's not he yeah he he's not as terrible as everybody thought um given all of the all of the um everything people were talking about on ESPN and and like oh he start now he started off the season poorly but again you're in a new team you're in a new offense the head coach is brand you he don't know what the hell he was doing um and and and listen I love Shan but it was dirty work it was dirty this is this is here's the thing old school guys a lot of these coaches they try to f look this is my system and you're gonna fit inside this system right but I think the really great head coaches the really great ones they say okay this is the guy I have and I'm going to build a system around it I'm going to tweak my system to fit what he does well I know Shawn Payton's offense is really like timing offense like one two three get the ball out one two three four five get the ball out Russell is not that type of player so so you so so you should have you should have traded him in training camp if you saw that okay you get you get hired you get the job you understand okay I have Russell quarter I have Russell Wilson as my quarterback I don't know that he works in my system you you you do OTAs you say you know what I don't like he's not throwing the ball the way I want him to throw it he not timing you know Russ is a guy that lets a play break down he holds the ball a lot so he takes sacks uh a lot of sacks uh because he just holds the ball long he's like a Ben rockburger that's how Ben rockburger plays right he just hold the ball you you you know you got 10 F you got um seven eight nine 10 seconds back there you make trying to make a play and so I just don't think that he fit the offense and sha pyton didn't do a good enough job of of doing the things that Russell likes and doing the things that that um that fits his play style I think when he got there he felt like Russ has way too much power he got a corner offense what the hell is this we're gonna fix this I'm gonna teach him who the boss is and they got off on the wrong foot and it never should be like that you got to coach the guys you have and I don't think that he did that very well and I like Shawn pyton I think that he's going to turn that he's going to turn Denver around next couple years Denver's gonna be Denver's gonna be right there but and that's that's where I'm at so 15 Trevor Lawrence ain't much to say about Trevor Lawrence uh to be honest with me to be honest with you I think he's underachieving uh we know he's a super talented guy he's also a guy that gets hurt a lot he gets injured a lot I don't think he's I don't think he's ever played um a full season um but he's really good um he gets a um and what I think helps him too is that he BS in a not in a very good division now with um Houston coming up exactly now now now they going to have they going to be if they don't get they if they don't get the act together they gonna be second in that division for a very long time they they didn't make the playoffs last year like yeah after that the last eight games yeah after that hot start they he started off pretty good and I had him in Fantasy last year and you want to talk about a disappointment oh oh okay I was about to say you have I had him in fantasy too BR I benched him Midway through like br I did he couldn't pass over 20 yards he couldn't pass for two touchdowns come on BR come on man he he was he had a couple of games where he had 100 something yards passing just ridiculous uh I picked I picked up Brock py mid-season and I rode Brock py all the way exactly to the playoff okay so uh 14 first cousins um yall know how I feel about him you like that first cousins you know that's my guy um I think again he's a really good quarterback he's he's inconsistent so that's why he he he he won't get you and like K said my list is also even though it's numbered my list is also kind of tiered you have guys who have no shot I feel making the playoffs and doing that and then you have guys who are who who can get their guys who could get their team to the playoffs but isn't going to go very far and then you have the top tier guys who I think are are are can win a championship can take their team to a Super Bowl um I think that Kurt Cousins in that middle tier um he has all the T in the world around him um this is probably um one of the better teams that he's been on playerwise obviously I know Minnesota he had Justin Jefferson and uh Addison last year he didn't really get to finish that season um with the injury uh but this this this team talent wise is is as loaded as you get offensively and I think they're G to do big things um especially with the addition of judon before I didn't think that they were going to you guys kind of changed my mind on what what I thought they were going to do uh now I feel like they they they're going to win that division uh obviously we still have to find out we have to find out about this quarterback situation because is is penx gonna play is he not gonna play is kurk ready is he not ready we don't know that yet um so that's going to be a big deal because you can't start they have a they have a a difficult um beginning to their schedule so they can't start off one and three uh so we're going to see where the quarterback is but that's where I got um Kurt Cousins solid number 14 and then at 13 I got my guy uh Tua he not really my guy uh he's on my team you know he he's not he's not he's not really my guy he's on my team listen we gave him we gave him the contract and and honestly um listen I'm all about I'm all about my guys I'm all about the players getting their money right these owners got billions of dollars they make a lot of money these players these players are risking their going out there I'm always for the players getting their money but I'm for the guys who have proven that they're worth getting their money and I still don't think that he's proven that um you know my idea was listen he's got one more year in this deal at 23 million we could franchise tag him for two years the franchise tag for the for for next year will be 38 million the following year franchise tag is going to go up a little bit probably 39 40 million right so that's we get in for 100 million we sign him now for four-year extension so that's after this year you have another four years which is a total of five years he has $167 million guaranteed we know his injury history why would we give him that extra 60 he was already gonna if we franchise tag him for two years he was already gonna make 100 million and we got to stop with this you know when guys get franchise said like oh he's looking for long-term security long-term security he was going to make $100 million on franchise tax Little P we have to stop that like franchise t such a bad thing you're going to average the salaries of every position and you're going to get paid the top at the top tier of that like come on like what are we talking about right he one little trip from cracking these CR Cranium Bros all right he he one move wrong now he lose the weight you know he was in the last year learning karate how to fall I mean this is this is ridiculous right you a grown man you talking about you taking garate with little kids because you need to learn how to and not knock your brain loose like come on man what we talking about here right listen let's listen let's not I'm getting personal let's not do that based on the numbers we all know last year he he he led the league um he led the league uh in in passing yards um he had like 30 inter uh um 30 touchdowns over 30 touchdowns um his his interception numberers High 14 I don't like that you know 30 touchdowns to 14 interceptions that's almost 5050 uh that that's not very good to me but that's probably why we didn't beat the good the the high quality teams the teams with with the winner record um because we couldn't get um we were turning the ball over when we Face good defenses we turn the ball over um I blame my my my also my coach for some of that getting away from the run right we have to really be a run first team and then we use the run to open that pass up and Tyreek to open the top um but that's where I got uh to a man uh I think that's a pretty fair assessment then 12 man my guy man Jordan love man I actually love a lot of people talked about his contract he just got paid about load of money for really putting together a eight game stretch because that the full season wasn't very good but when you look at the numbers man this guy threw for over 4,000 yards this guy uh threw for like 30 touchdowns like I mean he was just lighting it up so we look at the first part of the year and we didn't say we didn't say like oh he was playing really good but by the end of the year man he was probably he the second half of the season love was the best quarterback in the NL halfway season he was the best quarterback in the in the NFL and that includes with Patrick Mahomes he was better he was the best quarterback in NFL second half of that season I agree right and that got him paid right so I think that he's really good I think if he follows this up with a really good season they got a young team they got a really good offense offensive minded headit coach he could probably be top 10 going in the next year uh but this year I got him at 12 then at 11 uh Jaylen Herz Jaylen Herz is I think he really turned himself into a really great passer uh what we got to work on is the turnovers man and scoring touchdowns um he's got the receiving CT to do it uh now with um with them getting saquan I think that's really going to help um the quarterback just like how saquan helped Daniel Jones um he's definitely going to help um jayen Herz with these numbers you know the you know uh uh um what was that the the running back I just said saquan saquon's really good at catching the ball in the flat turning it up and doing making some things happen um and I I think that they're going to be in good shape I like Jaylen Herz this year um I think they they're they're probably gonna win that division let's see what the commanders look like I don't believe nothing in the Cowboys Cowboys don't want to pay nobody so we are where we are um so I like Jaylen Herz to win the division again and let's see what they can do uh in the playoffs and uh that's pretty much my list man uh we're gonna move on to you know 10 and and and 10 through one uh next week and next week's episode but to me man I like my list I know everybody's gonna talk about the Justin Herbert thing and I just listen again talent talent is one thing and you know production is another thing right if you can't get into and and again he's in he's in a tough Division I know but and I know he had a his his coach was probably just the worst coach in the NFL last year he was I mean time management timeouts I mean just awful um but I really don't think that he's a top 10 quarterback in my opinion um and let's see what um John harbar does um to re to revamp this offense I know they went out and and and really bolstered the offensive line right they're going to run the ball and then and then and then that's going to open up the pass who he's passing to you know I think I think they're still I think they're still probably a year away from from John har really getting a full grip on what's going on um but but but but but but that's where I'm at man I like my list I think my list is at the top I haven't heard y'all list yet obviously um we know Ethan's list is trash but I I'm interested to hear the rest of you guys' list um you and Caleb and seeing like where we are what we disagree on um obviously I know Justin Herbert thing is is gonna be disagreeable but that's how I feel man that's where I'm at so real quick did you I you didn't mention Dak right no he didn't and for him to say that he doesn't trust in the Cowboys is wild but Ethan you got the criteria criteria that's fine you got look at the numbers you got to look at the numbers before we start Dak was D Dak was in the MVP conversation last the next that's okay all hold on all right so let me go real quick so I'll just go through my list real quick um so at 19 I 4. QB Rankings 19-11 (Kyle's List) have Gino uh at 18 I have Baker uh and I have him ahead of Gino because I think he's a slightly better version just based off last year's success uh than Gino but I think they're just like this like they're like that um I have Trevor Lawrence at 17 uh that fantasy that he did with me last year hurt me more than apparently hurt you I don't know I mean I mean that that's two spots up yeah I he's pretty much he's pretty much in the same in the same vein for me yeah um so uh 16 I have first cousins um and he he's only at 16 if you look at his numbers like because he played eight games if you double his numbers he would have had I think I remember it was 4,700 yards 30 something plus Downs in like nine nine interceptions like he was on Pace for a crazy year like for real um and so and I'm going to preface this by saying his injury affected him less on my list than it did Aaron Rogers because Aaron Rogers is another one of those improvisers where his game is based like I can get off the pocket right I don't know how he's gonna adjust coming back you know you have to trust that foot and or Achilles and I don't know how that's going to affect his game coming back so I will say with that um that injury affected Aaron Rogers uh number on my list more than it did Kurt Cousins but Kurt at 16 um I have Tua at 15 and to your point with two I was going to say just as a little cave ey was there at any point did you believe that and I'm not going to say we I am a dolphins you know I follow Dolphins you know did you think at any point dolphins are gonna win that playoff game in Kansas City any point no shot because okay our season really turned our season really turned I forgot what week would was but when we played Tennessee and we no we we beat Dallas thate all we had to do the last three games of the Season we had to win one game and now our we we would had a home playoff game yeah okay we couldn't do it we lost to Tennessee to well Lis okay were up I think they were like that was like his first or second game starting uh like like we just had to bring that game home and we didn't do it and then we went we went on WE for some reason can never beat Buffalo last game of the season all do listen beat Buffalo we get uh we get a home playoff game Buffalo would had to Buffalo would had to come to Miami and we couldn't get it done we I I didn't think we had a shot as soon as we lost those three games and they said oh we got to go to Arrowhead and it's gonna be 50 something below that that's you can just forget about it you know both turned it up though the second we used to we used to the warm we used to warm weather man we used to bro listen man we we we're not built for that and I don't even think Kansas City lived there they ain't built for that cuz you had fans you had fans who had fingers and toes getting cut off because they UT yeah yeah you understand what I'm saying so they not built for that neither and they from there so imagine us this is ridiculous so I T at y'all know how I feel about Tu man like I know I know and um I have 15 he really he really ra is my blood pressure because before he got the year before he was got drafted I was one of them ones tank for two tank for two oh I remember I mean he just he just he just really disappointed me especially last year I mean we had everything we stayed fairly healthy I mean obviously as on offensive side we say fly healthy defensively we started to lose our you know um with uh um with jayen phips going down chub going down and our defensive line was just demolish and then now yeah you know but I I'm hopeful right we got a new uh defensive coordinator we're going to change up that Nick fangio defense was trash um talk about that L job for a reason bro lost job foras this guy this guy this guy playing this guy playing Zone this guy he's his literally wait no don't run don't run no we ain't gonna go down that road we ain't go down there we a't gonna do that I just want to finish this point because now my pressure blood High go ahead go ahead his defensive philosophy is p but don't break give up all the yards underneath if don't give nothing over the top man that's the stupidest thing I've ever heard in my life the year before that when we had listen I'm a listen we need to Blitz and apply pressure you understand what I'm saying all the defenses that apply pressure to quarterbacks they're always going to be more successful this whole defensive scheme where we going we G to drop we we got goddamn J Ram down back there doing all type of Fage J Ram is a man he covers man bro you can't put no J RMA no in no Zone and tell him oh he can't he can't travel he can't go and lock this guy down what what we talking about anyway I'm gonna go ahead go ahead ask ask him your question go ahead ask him your question calm calm down I know you g to ask him a certain question I know you want to ask go ahead you go so to at 15 I have Jordan love at 14 and again this is just all he could he's probably going to be higher on this list like you said he finished the season on fire uh obviously went into the Dallas and made it Lambo Texas or whatever you want to call it so um super bright he had he he had them Cowboys crying C crying you remember remember the one the dude crying his girlfriend like consoling him he just like in her orange bro making a grown man cry is crazy I just can't I can't understand it that's wild okay okay that's why pafy hey pacifying a grown man is nasty work that's all I'm saying right so uh Jordan love I know he's kind of low now but I feel like just the division he's in I feel like ATT tributes it's a tough Division I think there's GNA be some bum sitting grinds with a full season in his belt teams adjusting to him so we'll see how it goes but I'm at 14 I have Russ at 13 um I think with a I feel like a competent head coach goes it does wonders for a quarterback obviously Mike th is he he well I think other than and no no no is he the longest 10e coach at at one at one uh with one team right now I think he is I think he is I know it was Bill bich but he left and then um Andy hasn't been in Kansas City like for as longy the guy he's losing I remember the guy from uh Seattle Carol but now I think it is I think it is U Mike Tomlin Mike Tomlin okay so yeah so I I mean I I don't have to say nothing about Mike tomin right so now he has a competent quarterback again right a veteran guy you're not teaching the guy the ropes um you know Russ is accepted by some not like by some in the locker room I think that'll work itself out um but I think they'll have a good season again that's another golet of a of of a division with four teams that can make the playoffs so again it'll come with his bumps and grinds you know learning those defenses because it's all about defense in the AFC North but um at Russ at 13 all right so this is probably where I'm gonna break off from a lot of y'all and again this is just because of the injury but I have Aaron Rogers at 12 right now and again I think oh oh where Ethan at oh I just want to see his face okay go ahead I have him at 12 he's 40 years old okay for one coming off that injury and again like I said we have improvisers in the game the rusters of the world the the A- rods the a-rod's best throws I mean what is he doing he leaning this way n 100 degrees this way just sidearm like can he still do that we don't know okay um obviously that foolishness they were talking about with him coming back last season stuff I knew he was not actually I think I made a bet with somebody and lucky I can't remember who I made that bet with but I made a bet with someone like yo he not coming back like do you understand what an nill's injury is for a quarterback like come on man cut it out he's 39 years old at that point so 40y old Aaron Rogers I think he he has a great offense around him um how that team meshes like it they had obviously the quarterback play was AB visible after aod went down last year so again you know you know you know you went from playing for a Super Bowl to not gonna make the playoffs it could take a toll on you so I love to see that team come together obviously with him at the helm see how they adjust obviously they have the Dolphins the bills in that division so we'll see how that goes but I have him at 12 um just to see how he comes back from injury that's why so low for me um at 11 I have Jaylen oh yeah my last one I have Jaylen Herz um like you said he regressed a bit obviously coming off the Super Bowl run um you know they were talking about he had like a plethora of injuries last season that they said he was battling you know if you're on the field you gotta play so I'm not gonna make that EXC there's something there's something weird with that relationship between him and the coach we all know the the quarterback or whatever his name is usually the the quarterback coach has to be in lock step and it's clearly it's clearly not not working over there for some reason for whatever reason I I agree with that and I think even with that because uh kente you know I I don't know if you met kente y'all Ethan and kale y know K but he he's a Philly fan and Beyond even Nick s s how you say his name serani uh yeah even Beyond his relationship with Jaylen Herz the relationship between Jaylen herdz and why am I blanking on the receiver the buff what's AJ Brown my bad it was weird because they're they're really good friends off the field so it's like it was weird how you know they were arguing fighting on the sidelines in game yeah it was just a weird so the whole offense was just weird you know what I mean so hopefully this year um with Dallas having all those off field distractions uh they can take the division again I think Jaylen D Jaden Daniels have something to say about that I think as we get later in the season uh but I have Jaylen Herz at 11 I don't love him at 11 but um just it was a down year for by their standards obviously losing how they did in the playoffs to Baker Mayfield I mean it was just it was downhill the second half of the season and then the utter collapse in destruction uh in the playoffs so um that's my 19 through 11 uh any uh anybody got any gripes they want to fix with me anything Ethan I know I think it was I think it was pretty solid I know Ethan probably has something to say about where aod is I don't got him too far from where you got him so I'm cool with that list all right okay okay not me okay let me know in the comments bro because I think I'm number one now with the best list but y'all can let me know I I don't know I don't know all that don't play yourself okay so oh here we go here we go Rashad MC here he comes my fa go 5. QB Rankings 19-11 (Ethan's List) ahead all right here we go so hey it's always got to be one and okay at 19 I have Kyler Murray at 18 I have Baker Mayfield at 17 I have Trevor lores at 16 I have Russ Russell Wilson 15 I have uh Kirk 14 I have Tua 13 y'all GNA hit me for this one 13 I have Dak I know I knew it 12 I have Jordan love and then 11 I 11 I have Jaylen Herz bro I I really can't I really can't with you bro like I can't I knew you was gonna do with the with the I thought it was really gonna be the Aaron Rogers um thing but what in 19 through 12 to be that yeah I mean no no I thought you were gonna you I thought your list was going to be I was actually rolling with you I was cool like we I'm like I'm going on I'm shabby I was like not too shabby and then you said Dak man you gonna have to make a point you gonna have to make your point about Dak because when you look at the numbers man I'll make it I'll make it I'll make it so you had him at where 13 I have Dak at 13 okay okay why go ahead well I'm GNA start at 19 and then go down um yeah you said 12 19 High Kyler Murray uh I feel like um he possibly can have a bounceback season I know he was Hur last year maybe he can have uh one of the um not all time but yeah I guess for him one of the alltime Season that he's had post injury this might be his last year in Arizona as well um I mean I think he gets traded by the trading deadline if they don't have a good season going hey I mean hey we'll see what happens if not early because you you know what happens every year every year quarterback goes down and there's there's some movement in a quarterback midseason yeah who they signed they signed another backup quarterback I can't remember who uh 18 and a half Baker um I have him here like Kyle said I would kind of compare him to Gino but a better version obviously he was able to get more done w a division down here not like the NFC South is good division might be the worst of them all but I mean hey he got to the playoffs I'm man I'm not saying that they can't get there again but the Falcons will have to have everything rocking for them and then that's how the Buccaneers don't get into the playoffs um Lawrence we already talked about him he had a hot first half of the season I remember I was just watching the second half and I was like bro this man oh my goodness man the fall off was hard it was hard him and um Jaylen Herz literally kind of did the same exact thing but that that that's why I have at 17 16 I have Russ and you know y'all might be like oh that's a little low cuz I'm a Russ fan um I'm with I'm with you there I had you said what you said about Russ earlier about how he holds the ball too much and that Steelers o line is not that good I know y'all see that Steelers old line is not that good and if him and Justin feels like to hold the ball to if they hold the ball too long I mean it's I'm not saying that you're going to have a play of last year with um who's the quarterback they had last listen I'm GNA go out on the limb right now I'm gonna say that this is going to be Mike tomlin's First losing season since he's been a head coach I'm going that but we got it on tape all right as long we got I'm g go out on limb I don't think they win I don't I don't think they win more than nine games and I love Russ and I do I think they have you know they have a stud of a receiver and pickings on the outside uh you know they have a running game I mean Naji Harris n you know they they have everything in place I just I don't I don't love what I see obviously it's a preseason Russ is coming off the calf injury he ain't 100% yet um I don't love what I've seen about Justin Fields I think I honestly man I was one of them Justin Fields guys like he gotta get out of Chicago and he's got to get a new scenery and now I see him in the new scenery I'm like that's the same guy yeah y'all was bashing me Tom out why you w one him in Atlanta yeah I told that's the same guy that's the same guy man he he holds the ball too long he doesn't trust his eyes he he he he he doesn't trust his eyes you know you got to understand man NFL man guys ain't gonna be running open man you got to throw these guys open the ball placement has to be right the fumbles is just awful he gotta hold down to the ball yeah like but hey so so 15 I had Kirk um Kirk is coming off the ailles as well he's you know he's getting up there in age two I know we talked about he was on he was on track for hey he was going to have a season with Minnesota was they gonna win a playoff game I don't know that man only got one in his career and and he's been playing for how long Lord have mercy um 14 this is where Y no 14 is Tua um 14 and 13 were kind of you know AB for me but I I don't think think hold on I don't I don't uh last year I was I was watching and I was like you know they were doing great in the first in the first um the first half of the Season uh Tyreek was going stupid the defense was going stupid because y'all had Jaylen let me tell you something that Miami defense I'm I'm be honest with you that Miami defense is real one healthy and then every like injuries are started to happen I I remember watching the Jets game when Phillips went out I was like no shot that that was like a blow in the leg if I be D but that that was really a shot man almost that that listen that thing listen man cry man when I seen that I was like manic our season is our season is over because that was the strength of our defense our the strength of our team besides the offense was it what's our defensive line our secondary was still shaky uh J Ram uh obviously he missed like the first six games of the season so he was working himself back in um you know and like our defensive line was was the strength of our defense and we just started we just got ravished on that side of the ball man and it just to it just tore up our whole season to me yeah so um I mean I I think he's gonna and not to say that his seasons are mediocre but for the type of player that Tua is and I guess the system that he and the players that he's around I mean Miami should be getting to the AFC listen his season was mediocre because you can't look at the numbers what he had it's what he could have had that's what I'm saying I'm saying Miami he could have had a he could have had a he could have had a historic season he could have been in the running for MVP we're talking about almost six 6,000 yards he could have threw for man could but he he had some games he had some games where he just couldn't I mean when after you saw that Denver game he put 70 you're like oh crazy oh we we F to run the league and he just just fell flat man yeah that I I think that Miami at least should be making AFC Championship game but hey fully healthy anyways um 13 this is where yall had gripes with me but I had Dak I know listen I know the numbers look beautiful I know they do I know they do but y'all gonna turn me into a cowboy Defender and I absolutely cannot stand I I know you can't and that's fine and you know I will be I told before we got on here I said bro if there is everyone you know on the earth and there's one person on I will be that Dak hater listen if I'm thinking I I understand his his numbers I understand numbers look good he G be a hater dog if I'm ask but but but you gotta give me yeah you gotta give me if I if I'm asking a Cowboys fan or if I'm asking myself if I'm going to be a fan of that franchise I'm looking over the past I mean you can you could say long time but specifically with Dak I'm looking over the past four years and I'm saying he's he's gotten us to uh 12 13 around 11 11 12 whatever it is right wins per season but then I'm looking at the playoffs and I'm like this man this man for the life of me can't get out the second round if you want to put it in NBA terms I'm looking at Philly fans and I'm like you have the MVP and Joel embiid but for whatever reason you can't get out the second round and that's not to say because he doesn't I don't know if he has the weapons person he's only one he's only one player hold on excuse me Dak has the bro he got outplayed by Jordan love and Jerry and what did that defense do tell me what the defense did you can you see you keep BL to stop somebody did D inter so what you're saying is so what you're saying is be able to score 50 on his own that's what you're trying to tell me what you trying to say listen say it with your chest what you trying to say tell me tell me what you're trying to say don't be around tell me what with the Joel and bead like comparison Jolan be is still a top 10 NBA player right listen what I'm what I'm getting at here and this is what I'm about to get at this what I'm about to get at five the the the yeah but whatever the um Dallas was averaging 30 what I said yes Dallas no I'm saying what K said I'm saying he he had like of playoff success he's still a top five player in the league Dallas was Dallas was uh what you y got what yall got Justin hert Dallas Dallas was to uh average 35 points I think or maybe even a little bit more at home and I want to say that half of that or more came from their defense because their defense was good so I will give you their defense was sorry but this is the problem if you if statistics and I looked at it the numbers tell you listen I looked at it statistics showed when Dallas was able to force turnovers and Dak was able to start from the 50 or more not driving the entire field bro he they they would be able to score but you know what you know what uh uh that Packers doing that Packers defense said hey hey hey guess what Dak you gonna have to drive this entire field to score me and you know what he did oh Pick Four and out pick six four and out turnover four and out four and out four and out I'm not I'm not that that's if I'm getting that for years you're talking about one game excuse me you're in the you're in the playoffs and you're at home you're act like it doesn't matter you sound like skip his entire entire season the over 4,000 yards the the interception ratio all of that you want to boil it down to one game you're in the bottom of the league because this one game go ahead wait k what you say go ahead so so what you're saying is his entire you're only looking at the playoffs you're not looking at the rest of the season what I ju I just sat here and said that his numbers in the regular season looked great but I'm also sitting here and I'm saying hey for me what are you doing for Mei you haven't done anything for me you have not brought me closer to and Jerry listen listen enough of this listen meish yet you got the top that mean you Gott in the top 10 you going to sit here and tell me that you talking about what D haven't done but you got Justin goddamn Herbert in the top 10 where you next yeah I got him in the top 10 let me you lost your you want to know what Jerry said you want to know what Jerry said Jerry said that we are going as far as Dak can take us Dak can't take you nowhere and I'm leaving with that said number 12 number 12 I got me tell me who cares about what Jerry number 12 I got Jordan love listen like like said Jordan love was by far and I was following the P Ethan you got to stop being a prisoner of the moment bro ex I'm not a prisoner of the moment hey he's he's a like skip B he'll take an entire game and then pull it down to one goddamn play and say I know he had 40 but look what he did in the last 30 seconds oh he bro I can talk about I can talk about multiple gll I can talk about multiple games you could be mad he's staying at 13 he ain't moving everybody put in the chat this list is horrible hey I want to see all the trash can emojis in the chat please Ean and trash can Emoji this is absolutely ridiculous you're turning me into a cowboy a fan boy yeah booy listen I hate the Cowboys I don't like nothing about them but this is absolutely Insanity what you're talking listen listen I'm glad for you you stay over there what is your defense of Justin in the top 10 that you I'm gonna get to that when we get to the top 10 because that's where he belongs he you got to be number number 12 number 12 we got Jord uh I was watching the Packers the LA the latter half of the season um and I was actually telling I was telling a couple of my friends that we talk football with constantly I was like bro that this man I feel like this man could be the real deal I'm seeing Aaron Rogers s obviously he was behind him while Aaron was there makes sense okay oh now you see now you see with the Glade oh he he P players he didn't got rid of Aaron Rogers like oh I'm G glaze over here I'm Aaron Rogers got he Aaron Rogers springing his magic Pixy DK on him I got to have on my team oh I get it now he was behind Aaron but y'all can't deny y'all see it but it don't even matter uh we just talk about the glaz I saw him I saw and I was watching him and I was like bro this guy's him even when the going into Dallas I was uh I bet with a couple of my friends they were like oh Dallas oh they're gonna who up on them blah blah whatever I said bro this is going to be that Packers team that Aaron has not lost to the pack uh the Cowboys in the playoffs never happened and never will happen it's going to be the same with Jordan love and guess what he did he walked in there and he crushed him so I got him my to I think that he continues this next year he might be I uh we said the last video we were talking about um who's in that division the Lions un said he had the Bears or expecting the Bears to win 11 games whatever it is I I don't think I think that the Packers would be one or two I still think the lons are up there I don't think the Bears are going to climb that quick maybe next year uh not next year but you know the following year I I I could see that and then they have everything they need to 11 11 I have jayen Herz as well I I he could be higher but that last year I mean you talk about what the coach you talk about with AJ Brown uh it it was it was very Med and I told y'all I don't know if I told yall this last week but I was watching the games and like I'm like bro the the Eagles are like they're squeezing these wins out it's not like they're beating these teams like they're barely winning they're squeezing these teams out it came to beat them uh it came to bite them in the latter half of the Season where they were like yo you cannot win close games like it's every game that you watch from I want to say week 11 on they could not win close games they could not close it out I think Dallas was the last game that they won that was close and they like I said they barely won that barely so and then you like how said you but those games are always close no they're division Riv sure sure but I'm saying they barely won that I think the previous year they had that was not that close but I will say this like how I said with um how they went down there I knew that they would go lose to Buccaneers bro they the team just looked the team was not together it was just discombobulated like it was just a whole bunch of things going on nobody like it was almost like AJ and him Wen speaking the coach and him weren't on the same page and stuff like that I it was just it was a done deal for them I think from like week 11 but uh I I do think that they can have a bounceback year with seor there but it would be um taon needs to stay healthy and not get hurt um but that's that's my only gri well he's not playing with Daniel Jones anymore do he doesn't to get 30 touches a game I know but that's that's my only gripe with um him and then we'll see how I know Kelsey was you know he was still a pro All Pro Center see what happens with that replacement thank you for your list he hand he handp Kelsey handpicked that his replacement so he better be good hey I agree well thank you for your list Ethan uh you know the Dax SL I wish had extra hand so I can give it three thumbs down ridiculous y'all literally only disagree with Dak that's it if it wasn't Dak there y'all would literally be glazing this list hey I I was I was cool I Wasing with I was sling with you too do you like love at 12 and not love yeah we got the we got the same we got the same stuff I had jillen Herz at 11 I had Jordan love at 12 we got the same 13 to like we got the same list you have you have Dak in your top 10 so who did you have outside of it who did you put in the that I don't Justin G find out next week exactly I want to see I want to see where you got Justin Herbert because this is got this is the glaze is insane you talking to me K got this talk too listen I do listen all right K I want to hear K list enough about Ethan list you could hey Ethan hey ball that up and throw that in the god mine was better I'm G keep this short and sweet you know um at 19 I have Derek 6. QB Rankings 19-11 (Caleb's List) Carr you know mid is gonna be mid every time um at 18 you should have seen on face oh my goodness is gonna be M every single time you know what you're gonna get out of them uh at 18 I have Baker Mayfield um you know we're we're salvaging the potential that we we originally thought you had and you know uh at 16 I have uh Justin Herbert oh no I'm sorry at 17 at 17 I have Trevor Lawrence okay okay at 16 I have Justin Herbert at 15 I have Jordan love thank you thank you Kate somebody with some sense at 15 I have Jordan love now when I when I get to 15 these are guys who can actually like win you playoff games and and sustain sustain that success for a long period wow so you think Jordan love is the is the is is really the worst of the best quarterbacks that can get you to the playoffs no but like it's it's hard because Jus Herber can't get you there period and hold on hold on and and and uncle was just yelling about Derek Carr so you mean to tell me Derek Carr can't get you that either no okay again again no he said thing is but the thing is but the thing is though right Jordan love has at this point in his career Derek Carr is what he is Jordan left has potential to grow so where he is um bro we're not talking about no Baker bro like ier what you arguing you arguing about Baker we're saing potential here at this point everybody is Hey listen everybody is a mix match bag of nuts yeah in this oh I don't know about that but go ahead go ahead go ahead you put everybody mixed match you get a mixed bag of nuts yeah okay say it one more time at 14 I have and this one might be a little controversial but at 14 I have CJ stad um oh come on now hold on hold on you was doing so good my God wait wa wait wait in second place he should be in fourth place Lord have mercy he should be in fourth place throw that 14k 14 I at 14 I have CJ stown um okay now now I'm anxious to hear 13 because no what 14 go ahead you got to explain it though okay why why is he at he's he's I mean the the thing is the guys that I have above him are proven so like even though he having a hard time okay go ahead on go ahead on goad [Laughter] R Jaylen Herz and at 11 after Brock py can you tell me the last time uh the last time win what are we talk hold on hold on two is in your top 10 hey again my list doesn't start till like the top six as as far as like yo how come you always keep P your list back it start to 15 now it's okay but my thing is this you you putting you're putting too much stock in the numbers to me all these guys are like in the same realm but but you said but hold on but you said but you said that this stop stop st St he said that there's more he said there's more people above him that are proven I need to know Tua has yet to win a a a playoff game I I I I'm I'm a little confused here brother again all in the same tier for me I what coming so are you saying that there's tears Within te or we like like when you said in the same tier like I feel like saying CJ St and and like who you say who you have before him who you said Brock py no no who's 13 before at 13 I had Russ okay so all of last year and even the last well I guess it's rookie season the thing is I don't know it's me being by but I I still believe in Russ me personally we all believe we all believe in Russ we all think he he he's still a good player but how can he be above CJ Stroud who just who who won Rookie of the Year who just won a playoff I 4,000 yards what do he have like almost 30 tubs and five picks bro only five pick as a r first of all first of all he he he didn't throw his first pick to like game 11 I'm stuck on this Tua and Brock py thing what well Brock per is not of his top 10 which I'm not mad at you for but that's neither here there okay but at the fact Still Remains you have Justin Herbert in your top 10 both of you so I don't want to hear I do both of yall either way either way yeah anyway um but like for me like name anyone outside the top 10 and I'm taking J Herbert over him so it's fine bro it's okay like for me for me again like I didn't get too hung up on the the the ranking as far as the numbers to me all these guys are in the same tier You could argue you I I won't disagree with you like CJ Stout in my opinion is definitely better than T right but like I'd say like that top eight seven is where I say like your you know your upper echelon to be is that what to it sorry let's not get ahead of our no he's not he's not top eight or top seven but top 10 disgusting too but but like bro like I say I say down is playoff had the worst list bro but I think K you got again you're getting too caught up in the numbers you're getting caught up okay we're doing a a tier a ranking system what you mean first I'm not again I'm not the basis of our list are literally numbers literally like I know what the rules are but I don't give a it's literally numbers bro listen I here K rank your favorite food I'mma put cheese burgers at 10 but but my top 10 is just like like bro that don't make no sense BR like what listen listen listen listen come on hey I was rocking you it's tears it's tears it's tears man okay all I know is bro I was I thought Ethan was Far and Away gonna piss me off but you pissed me off more piss you off when me and your list look ID I said I thought you was you Wilding with the D thing though because I mean the budy threw for third most yards in the league last season that's neither here nor there all right so what I want everyone in the chat to do is please let us know who got the best uh was that 19 through 11 and who has the worst 19- 11 listen we gonna let we gonna let them figure it out one listen it's not even a question it's not even a question they put if they put Ethan list on the top this podcast is gonna be ended before it even starts hey hey hey you want to know something you want to know something you want absolutely ridiculous me and Kyle's list are probably literally going to be at the top and yours is not you you're disrespecting Justin Herbert if you put mine at the bottom I'm not offended man well you put C I think I think the Justin Herbert slander I didn't say I didn't start this list to really talk about thinking we was gonna talk about Justin Herbert as much as we did but clearly he is a very divisive player amongst us and that's good to know so yeah because you both because both of you are nuts bro bro you know what it's okay it's okay both I already told you how much I think coaching affects the quarterback play you have an abysmal coach your defense can't play a lick your old line is trash still throw for 4600 yards I don't know what you want him to do but that's neither here or there okay keep you know what I'm saying qu joh Johnson got brick hands bro whatever name oh you what have you done in the BR what is Dak doing and you bullet down all to one game and but then you got the Justin Herbert what just wonder what was Justin Herbert when Dak was playing in the playoffs the same place me and you was on our goddamn soal he hey hey hey hey you said it's a team sport right who has the better who's always had the better team than him you said it's a team sport I don't care about has a better team listen go out there and perform and here's the thing though I you I don't want I don't want it to make you seem like I don't like Justin Herbert because I do I think he's super talented I just don't think he's lived up to the potential that he's shown that's all I'm saying I'm not saying like he's a bad quarterback I'm saying that the the talent that He shown me he should be top 10 he should already have his team in the playoffs regardless of his head coach you understand what I'm saying if you really that guy if you really him right like come on man I I disagree all I in ter ter in terms of teams all all like Hall of Fame and great quarterbacks have always had a at least you could say defense I don't know about offense but have at least always had a top 10 defense you can't say that for Justin Herbert at any point in his career and his receivers in o line have been very iffy since he's been in LA and what hold on can you let me finish I was just about to say besides besides Williams and Keenan Allen his his defense has oh so what you want him to what you want his Ethan be quiet bethan you're not helping this case Ethan you're not helping this case you're using all the wrong points you're using the wrong points Ethan had austino at running back Ethan relax relax relax relax relax relax just leave it alone we gonna pick up this conversation because obviously he's in two of our top 10 for next week so it's going to come up again don't worry we will continue this next week as we continue going to our top 10 and obviously who we think is the best quarterback in the league which I hope would be unanimous but I guarantee you it won't be listen if it Ain unanimous I'm signing off so with that said we're GNA transition so we're going to go into some of our uh a shorter topics uh so we're gonna do are you stupid are you dumb and then we're gonna end it with a little un's corner because un got something cooking up that's been burning on his chest I got to talk about it so 7. Are You Stupid Or Are You Dumb? uh for the are you stupid or are you dumb topics the first topic we have at hand is the Atlanta Falcons coaching staff is rahee Morris stupid or dumb for not playing Michael penck the last two uh preseason games uh I know you had a Ral reaction when that came out in our chat so please let us know no no no no no I want to go I want to hear what Ethan and y'all you guys are are Falcons fans guys don't seem appalled at at this and so I want to see I want to hear what what like what is what do you guys why aren't you upset about this I'll say this this my team the Falcons was the my team do the Dolphins I would be I would be causing all type of a stir and and melee there's going to be some furniture moving what the hell is going on you want to know the difference you want to know the difference and you think it is stupid or dumb um before I answer that I I'm gonna answer because he said why are we not aall listen I'll give you I'll give you from uh the Atlanta perspective the Falcons have been a poverty franchise their entire career you understand what I'm saying their entire existence okay we made it to the Super Bowl in 2016 the the biggest heartbreak in in sports history I I don't even I miss everything else that's the biggest heartbreak ever you understand what I'm saying it's been nothing but failure and and and let down year after year after year so I mean I this year I feel like there is a little bit more hype in the city and everyone's a little bit more ready for this I think I think it might be uh a little dumb not to play him considering that they haven't uh made the decision for who's starting week one I've yet to hear the decision yet and I don't even know who but that doesn't even matter it doesn't even matter what the decision is no but I'm saying I'm saying uh I feel like he he should at least get I even if you don't want to play him the whole thing you could play him the half to get warmed up for the last uh uh uh preseason game before uh the regular season starts especially in in the case that he has to start because Kirk isn't fully healthy because like I said we still don't know what what's going on with him so I I think that's just uh I think it's a little dumb in a little you know yeah I think it's dumb and he didn't really have an answer for it either when the people asked I realized that I went on Twitter but he did not have an answer for this is just absolutely just absolutely stupid go ahead uh Kyle the the other Falcon fan on the on the well I was gonna let K go and then I'll go k you think it's stupid or do you think it's dumb um I think it's totally stupid um it it's just to me and I'm kind of on side with this one um I think even if you're not starting you know you you want to get the the most reps possible whether or not you you know you just want to get adjusted to the NFL period um so for me even if even if you know uh if I'm penic I'm fighting the coach of staff on that one you should even be in Atlanta in the first place horrible I'm not check anything up as a rookie but I'm I'm fighting the coaching staff on that one because you know I for me personally I want every opport to succeed and that's just not indicative of being successful especially if Kirk isn't Gonna Be Ready day one so I think you set yourself up a failure person listen the whole city of Atlanta was appalled when he was picked in the draft but that doesn't just qualify old though like he's he's not you know so that was an awful pick that was a awful pick that's a terrible pick $170 million guar until 4 years old and you mean to tell me we're going to draft a rookie quarterback if you know that you wanted to drop a rookie quarterback don't even sign Kirk like hell why even sign him that don't make no sense go ahead Kyle I don't know if I guess I I guess I have no reaction to this because this is not unexpected from this franchise for me what I'm saying that's what I'm saying I will say like so you guys are so disappointed in your franchise that it doesn't even bother you that you don't know what my thing is like I listen to sports radio every day here in Atlanta so like all like the the uh the uh the audio and stuff that they get from like R and like you know the OC Kirk himself and stuff that they don't play really in the National media like you know I hear I know you listen to sports radio too down there um for for the Dolphins and stuff to me I think I think they already know Kirk's starting like I I don't know you know just the whole semantics and something to talk about I feel as why they haven't come out like oh Kirk starting but I'm pretty based on what they say like with the guys when they were out there like during uh training camp stuff like Kurt gonna start now why penic is not playing I can't understand why unless they think like Kirk has a higher probability of like something tweaking or whatever to where he's not ready week one and like well we're not going to put out the guy who we want to start like I don't know I can't say what mindset is but it's I think it's just dumb like I mean you could he could have played at least the second game if he want to sit in the third game cool but like you could have played him the second game I know Raheem was like you know the joint practice with y'all down there in Miami he was like he was I saw everything I needed to see da like oh I mean okay and he don't got to prove nothing to me like I mean you're the coach bro so like I'm gonna take your word for it but I'm just like I don't think playing the second game would hurt at all you know what I mean so I think it's dumb I don't think it's stupid but it's like bro just throw him out there like get the people what they want and let me see him live on air against listen if you okay so now to me man if you put dumb and you put stupid in a pot and you mix it up you get a picture of Atlanta Falcons okay because let me tell you let me tell you football and I think uh Shannon sharp says this football players get better at playing football by playing goddamn football has to play football in order to get better at playing football how do you come in as a rookie whether he's starting day one or if he's going to sit for the entire year you need reps you need live Reps don't tell me about no live practice where you got the red jersey on when [ __ ] can't even breathe on you that's not the that's not an actual game you need to be in the game where [ __ ] is trying to knock your head off in order for you to get the timeing the Rhythm the speed of the game when you get into these preseason games first of all you already not playing the starters you're already not playing guys that are probably GNA be on the team okay so you're you're really not playing that top tier uh competition anyway and for the people when you say oh what if he gets hurt what listen you have to play football football is an inherently dangerous sport okay okay you cannot you cannot coach scared you can't play scared you have to be able to play football you already know okay Kurt Cousins is either gonna start or not start if kurk if Kurt Cousins starts and plays the entire year that means that penck will not get reps with the starters at all the entire year why he should have never been drafted there in the first place he plays if he plays week one one you're telling this rookie hey we know you only played one preseason game not even a whole game we know you only play two quarters of a preseason game but go out there on national TV where it counts where it's live where it matters and go ahead and be successful I think this is the most dumbest stupidest whatever you want to call it it's just God awful the and listen I like Raheem Morris man and and I want him to succeed you know I always want you know my black coaches to go out there and and and achieve the at the highest level you know but I mean come on Raheem man what are you guys doing man okay first of all you draft the guy you don't you first of all you you you you you you get Kirk puin in free agency okay you don't let him know he watching the draft I just got 167 million I'm cool he's sitting there watching the the draft Atlanta Falcons pick come up dra another quarterback listen the whole idea concept premise of drafting a quarterback is when you don't have one and you're going to build a team around a rookie quarterback use that rookie paay scale deal build the best team that you can and hopefully win in that window if you hit on a quarterback before you have to pay that guy so now you sign this guy who's essentially going to be a backup quarterback uh uh uh what with the eighth pick which means that he has a high salary to be a backup and then if Kirk get injured he has no live Reps for weeks and months beforeand like come on man this is just uh this is like if I'm a Falcons fan I'll be offended this is offensive first of all there's nothing to be first of all you pay your money to go see this guy I'm a full have a GU bro so glass have full listen tell there's listen listen you guys have been you guys have been so bad for so long that you've been beat and crumbled into submission you guys what you want me to do what you what you want me to do what you want me to do what you want me to do sit sit and cry what you want me to do Jordan love Jordan love sat behind A-Rod for four years ain't touch a liquor the field never never unless and we see look like when A-Rod got hurt looking crazy against Minnesota and he looked crazy against San Francis he yeah San Fran was like a Thursday night or something like that looking crazy then last season you start for real and bro turned up so all I'm saying is it's possible that's all I'm say I'm a glass half type person gonna put the Green Bay Packer situation and organization coach and their they probably got the best GM in the NFL they the idea what does that have to do what that got to do what that got to do what that got to do with the concept that they trying to do what that got the concept you don't even believe what you're saying about about to say do not have a cont they have not had a that's they're literally they're literally they're literally like you got the veteran here Lally we got the future here the veteran goes plays and if how how so you're comparing you're saying Kurt Cousins and rers Aaron Rogers a Hall of Famer you're talking you're talking about Aaron Rogers as a player I'm not talking about them as players right Kurt Cousins is Kurt Cousins is Kurt Cousins a successful starting quarterback in this listen listen I'm talking about what you said you're got 16 hold on you're telling me a guy that s behind a Hall of Fame guy and gets to watch a Hall of Fame guy work every day that gets to be in organ organization with the quarterback Guru offensive guy and you're going to say the Atlanta fccers had the same idea and organization so if if that's what their plan was know anything about you you know who's in their organization you know who in the Falcons organization yes I know who in the Falcons who who in their organization listen the whole entire F organization is nuts you [Music] but anyway as y'all can see un got his glasses on so you know what time it is it's un's Corner uh we be we'll be 8: Unc's Corner talking about in your corner today the first live on corner to you yeah you come on come sit sit down with your old let's have a conversation let's talk for a minute hey man listen I wanted to talk about recently the Olympics ended and I know it's been a lot of discussion about Steve Kerr and um first of all uh Jaylen Brown not making the team and then also you know his substitution patterns with Jason Tatum not get in the game and uh I really want to talk about this because and first of all I want to say that I am not I'm a Heat fan I about to say I about to say so you already know I hate everything about him so this is a lot for him to defend him so this is a lot for me to defend Jason Tatum or any Bron Celtic okay so I'm G put that out there okay now that being said Steve Kerr you ought to get your you understand me because you're telling me a guy wins a championship okay all NBA the last three years he wins a championship gets the highest paid contract in the history of the NBA okay he takes time out of his summer right now he should be he should be in the club somewhere with his shirt off Psy drunk enjoying his Championship win you understand he should be spending time with his kid he got a little Deuce you know what I'm saying he a cute little kid had another kid they just had another one you understand what I'm saying you're going to tell me I just won a championship all NBA I'm in the running for the face of the goddamn league and you're going to tell me that I can't play but my teammate Derek white is better at doing a a at playing defense and at scoring than I am oh you out your mind hey Steve Curt let me ask you a question are you gotam Nets this guy took time out of his summer to represent the USA and you let that man sit on that bench and then play him we we talking about one of the fixes in the NBA okay and let me tell you why this is a problem this is and I understand on that team you got LeBron you got the old Staples okay but you gotta look ahead man you gotta look at four years from now okay these young guys who's going to want to play in the in the next Olympics I understand oh represent your country and all that but guess what we're Americans and in America that mean that much okay we we talk about championships nobody mentions that Carmelo Anthony got three gold medals nobody cares about how many championships you got so if I'm gonna take time out of my Sumer to represent my country okay like Charles Buckley said everybody should play you're telling me the strength of our team is our depth so when we sit one NBA all all NBA player down we put another one in what other team in the world can say that they have that type of dep halberton made the he made the too what are we doing man I had to get that off my chest I'm not even a Boston Celtics fan but this is absolutely ridiculous four years from now these young guys gonna look at that and say why the hell am I gonna give up my God okay I got 50 60 70 hundred million in the bank I can do why the hell would I go over there and do that and then not be able to play and we're going to we're going to talk about the the Olympic Committee later with leaving jayen Brown off the team but I listen I understand the team construction and I understand look we need a guy that's gonna run offense and all that that's what you got BR for Derek white didn't even needan to be in this goddamn team you understand you say oh I need a point guard what you need a point guard for when LeBron James was out there playing point guard you tring to tell me that those those minutes that you gave Derek White Tatum isn't good enough in an international game to play in and I get it Steve's cerr great coach he's got all the accolades and one championships and all that's and you ought to get yeah man that's 's Corner we gonna slide it back to y'all boys and y'all tell me what y'all think well I me I go ahead Caleb me and Caleb got the same reaction on that last take everything else is basically spot on y'all know I like Derek white that's my favorite player on the Celtics I I would think that which wow which is nasty work but okay okay uh I think that um uh it's not that I dislike them but I hit like he's like very I guess underrated he fits a role for that team the most in my opinion anyways I think uh and I think I agree with a lot of what you said I do think that those minutes could have went to Tatum I think that I don't think I know Brown should have been on that team instead of halber but that's another topic for another day like you said Brown should have been there instead of Derek white or that or that too and Brunson even could have been there top uh uh but I I agree except for the last one and Caleb can touch on that last one for me um for me I I I I wholeheartedly agree with both of y'all um I am a celticus fan um me personally I I lean towards being a a bigger fan of brown than I am Tatum you personally we know why he wasn't on the team is due to you know his beef with Nike um and and what's going on with that but I I another thing I I think they need to do tryouts again because I don't even remember them having try outs this year yeah they don't do it no and I get and I get I get 16 you had to actually try out to be on the USA roster to see how that fits there was a training camp and I get the schedule doesn't really fit with that as much anymore no they don't need no schedule to fit no you get just like how they used to do it before listen you guys all you get 30 NBA players everybody go to Las Vegas and the best players make the team period That's how I we used to be Hey listen everybody get in the gym let's see who better hey y'all point guard play each other just okay that's how it is that's how it should be this whole L and I get this year because you know this is like you know the Legends tour you know with Braun being how old he is and Curry and and and Durant those all all those guys are probably not gonna be back so I get it for this year but the rest of the team should have had to try out yeah and and and and and and the best guys get on the team period yeah I think this this whole roster at least at the at what you would say the bottom of the roster uh could have been get could have been better um I don't agree with Steve cerry being that head coach at all me personally I I'm I'm a Boston fan but I would have here I'm right as as my head coach um when we talk about being the X's and O's guy I I trust spals IQ over Steve Kerr I trust SPO and tyou over that over that bum uh Steve C so so yeah I you laughing I'm being so serious like that man is not I I I'm friends with Golden State fans right and like I I hear I hear it from them and I'm like man y'all y'all y'all ain't like being for real like that man he's a he's a okay Coach n that man is piss poor you understand what I'm saying wow like when you you know it's bad when Draymond is tweeting mid game about your substitutions and how whack it is let me ask you a question we not we Notting we're not not this we're Notting Draymond Green we're not listen I listen you know I don't like Draymond Kyle you know you know I despise and I will not for this conversation no no let me get to top of this chest I gotta get top of my chest the USA is playing Serbia okay yeah you're struggling the entire game you understand what I'm saying from not from the opening tip y'all were up or whatever but Curry was the real Reon why yall were in that game in the first place so yes the whole team as a whole was struggling you go to the lineup with what was the lineup it was KD bam uh uh and and whoever the three other players were right second half you saw they were close they went down by 17 with that lineup on the floor let me ask you a question when they get it within six points in the third quarter why do you go to that same exact lineup and then you end up down four again going into the fourth quarter tell me if that makes sense mean yeah yeah the pro the problem and people are saying like oh why do you why is everybody up in arms they're still winning the games what K say it's about the quality the quality you understand what I'm saying it's right we're not supposed to be we're the United States of America we're not supposed to be comp we're not supposed to be fighting for our life oh down 15 and whole rotation listen put the best players on the floor and when you take those players out you put the best players in like we got the better players coming off the bench the best starting lineup like it doesn't make any sense to to to to to to have literally all NBA guys and you're telling me they can't run against guys who can't even make in the NBA guys who plays in Russia and all these other leagues let me tell bogy and joic was given us the work but it don't even matter look at Booker Booker hadn't scored KD didn't score and was playing terrible and you mean to tell me you couldn't even take hey Tatum you know at least get off the bench for three minutes let's see what that do no we already touched on this but is coaching on the European side is why they're able to do that their schemes are crazy everyone knows but also but also but also 2K like Piggy backing off of what you said they also play together for years right every year after Olympics try to slap a team together right you play for you play three or four games okay in the worlds and then that's it like these these teams played five six seven eight years teams back in the day and and uh yeah like Wy W's playing with Wy been playing with this team since he's 17 years 16 17 years old so by the time he get to his height the next Olympics when this dude's gonna be the baddest man in the world he G already been playing with that Team 15 16 17 years old the rest of the world caught up he gonna be a problem in 2028 bro the rest of the world didn't caught up the people talking about some the US just gonna be listen listen it ain't gonna be no ciwalk no basketball the road is has definitely gotten better that's not a I'm not saying it hasn't gotten better but I also think you guys uh I think the the the talent from the world is sort of topheavy because I of those you got embiid Giannis joic Luca out of those guys after that you can't name the your any real okay and then I guess you could say shay but he's not European he's Canadian yeah and so I mean he has he plays more American than he does European but out of those guys that I just named you can't name me any foreign players that are excelling in the league you I I understand problem the two last previous Euro League MVPs came over to the league last season and did nothing but to point to point they've been playing for look at what Serbia literally was doing to like they were literally playing Missoula ball and they were tearing us up for the majority of the game that comes comes out to chemistry and coaching talent talent will get you there yes but when it comes to that chemistry and that European that European IQ that's one thing I'll give a the Europeans play style play sty is always a problem for American defense the way the way they play because it's about it's about the it's not necessarily about one individual or te yeah it's it's a scheme and making the extra pass and just but the reason why I think the European IQ is so much higher than ours in a lot of in a lot of ways is because they're training these guys how to play the right way from Young you know in America we have you know in America you know we're we're we're offensive heavy we don't teach defense we don't we like yo go out and score 70 oh go put it behind the leg no every in the European League hey every move is efficient you're gonna pass the ball you're gonna take a one dribble two dribbles pass it shoot it right everything has purpose to it right we are we got the Flash oh check this out boy I can twe twe behind the back nah Europeans you don't see none of that yo we getting we go we getting straight to the business at the end of the day it's about putting the ball in the back you're product of American basketball and you know that's not true you know my defense could be Stell but I was going to say this you look at yic yic almost averag a triple double while crazy yeah oh it is Stell but he almost averaged a triple double while over there so like that I feel like that proves our point when it comes to Yo they're playing as a whole unit America I guess this past one like he said this was The Avengers Assemble type team and whatnot whatever so it's kind of like oh yeah we I mean everywhere you look it's heavy it's heavy foot like you got the starting lineup was what shouldn't have been Joelle Braun ad I don't think Joelle should have been on the team and now he talking about something he don't know if he want to play for 28 get out of here please I I I had no problem with him being on the team just because he's the best man we have in America like if you if you're gonna call him I'm not I'm not gonna do like if he's American he's American citizen so he's the best big man that we have and the the years before um what we got killed was we we didn't have sze right and so he's our best American big man so he had to be on the team I mean that's fine thing is though you don't need you don't need like what with USA basketball that's why you had guys like a Tyson Chandler in the middle or or someone like that you don't need Superstar at Center need grab rebounds and you need someone that can block shots that's it that's all you need you don't need of heavy guy and you don't need because we have that on the outside we had the best perimeter scores in the world we've always had that's what ad was ad was literally I mean he was doing everything but ad had a had a great olypic he really had a great year ad and Bam are my two centers for the entire Olympics and that's it we don't need him be you're soft on the inside okay you you you're no resistance you let everything come through okay it's just it's just flowing you know the offense is just flowing nobody's nobody's uh mentally mentally thrown off because you're at The Rim you're just there what are you doing like I said before before this you had whatever py in your face and you you you just you now he's bleeding what's going on stay it was crazy because he play you seen how good he played with half of his face working in the in the half of your face is working look like you just had a stroke go home okay and granted that was the best in uh playoff series that anyone has ever seen out of mbid since his entire existence in the NBA like that's the best he's ever played his numbers and everything with a half I can't I can't wait till we get to the NBA chair list CU my goodness I already know how you guys that one's gonna be way better I'm a casual so but yes all right did you guys get all did you get that off your chest did everyone did you get your I feel so much better okay airpods airpods died I got one more take yeah oh Caleb has a take listen I think and and this is a theory of mine I think the reason why I think I I think the reason no this has nothing to do with Steve C nothing to do with uh Europeans and why they're so good at basketball I think it's because of their uh their love for soccer and they kind of train they kind of play basketball like how they play soccer and that kind of correlates together but that's just me um and oh I have one more and listen Tatum is Tatum and and Booker are going to be your leading guys when it comes to next Olympics Steve Kerr and if I'm and I'm them three I don't want you coaching me so he's not coaching he stepped down yeah I know oh okay I don't know I don't know if that's official yet it's not official I I said that earlier it's not offici he's not coaching this man to the curve we've seen what you done what just a legendary roster this is one of the best rosters they've had in years and you almost failed you you you almost failed you almost I'm not going to say say it now granted now granted these these French refs were just atrocious 9. Olympic Slander Incoming this is this is all this has rivaled Beijing in terms of uh the how much o it's been R okay even when it comes to like theic China fing blood a whistle every every time down win game this is this is like on the level of uh Beijing bro I I I can't nasty French the French we never want to you again okay we don't want to see the olypics and and the Olympics after that okay you should never host again uh France your city sucks and your country sucks oh wow is trash yeah okay okay so bro you gonna get all these French in here in the comments bro in French the Frenchies hey the Frenchies are gonna get you listen French BR he's not necessarily like hey man hey but somebody gotta hey hey I'm glad you said it case somebody had to say it they trying to get these swimmers to swim in that poop water that's disgusting they did and they got sick they got sick right after they did but I was also what Caleb said about the refs like I remember I didn't watch the Japan game someone brought it up to me and they said that it was rigged and I was like bro you can't just make that off a one game did I watch the Germany game I was like oh no y'all y'all out here rigging this thing in front of the world the world is watching y'all rigging this bro how about Germany France didn't score a minute or they scored Four Points in the last five a half minutes of that game how did they still win they scored Four Points there's no there's no you can't like there's no defending that to me I I don't know how much uh uh it don't matter what what Joe Biden say America owns the Finish Line ra my country is red yeah yeah we're gonna close out on that one because bro what okay the real the real red white and blue not that fraud you got going over across the sea oh wow Australia they said they said France is literally yo y' okay y'all are hey I didn't say it I'm just telling you what I heard that's wow bro that let the bags come I'm trying to stop you Caleb but you keep going that's why bro they said the city smells like just sew you know off soon as you step off the flamee your your face just scrunch up hey he not lying he not lying they said the city smells so stink you can't go anywhere without the city just well I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad we're ending the the the video on a bunch of FR on a very positive note yeah so let me my y let me try to Ste ship away from this France slander my friends yo and may we never see you again okay get demonetized and demaged in France so block our video in France bro it's wild work not that you care Caleb you don't care yeah I know go ahead go ahead good let me just stop you right there this is going to conclude the second episode of are you nuts you know what I'm saying obviously we have a lot of well let me let me not say we Caleb and have a lot of hate for the French French people have no hate with yall come them comments I you what I heard I keep my ear I'm telling you what I feel forget what I heard that's what it is he Caleb said if you think I'm about to apologize you got another thing coming so is D it down on that right business hey Caleb say stand on business join us next week 10. Outro as we uh give our top 10 quarterbacks that L should be pretty interesting giving what we've given today we're also going to talk about the start of college football the NFL K say he got some more 2K news for us because we know he feing for that to come out so join us next week for another episode of are you nuts we'll see you next week peace [Music]