Intro >> Sean: ALL RIGHT. EARLIER THIS WEEK, I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SIT DOWN WITH James Carville DEMOCRATIC STRATEGIST JAMES CARVO. HERE IS PART TWO OF THAT INTERVIEW. JAMES, WE HAVE NOW IDENTIFIED BECAUSE OF HARRIS AND BIDEN, OPEN BORDERS HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE WITH KNOWN TERROR TIES IN THIS COUNTRY. WE HAVE TENS AND TENS OF COURTHOUSE FROM CHINA, RUSSIA. EGYPT, VENEZUELA, AND AFGHANISTAN. IS THAT NOT A NATIONAL SECURITY DANGER TO THIS COUNTRY, BECAUSE I SEE IT? >> WELL, IT IS WELL DOCUMENTED THAT IMMIGRANT HAVE -- THE SECOND THING I WILL SAY, IS I COMPLETELY AGREE. THESE ARE HUMAN BEINGS. THEY ARE MEMBERS OF THE HUMAN RACE. ALL RIGHT? AND THEY SHOULD NOT BE DENIED HEALTH CARE. NOW IF YOU HAVE A WOMAN TAKES A 10-YEAR-OLD AND 6-YEAR-OLD, AND WALKS 500 MILES TO GET IN THIS COUNTRY FROM GUATEMALA BECAUSE SHE IS GOING OVERRUN BY DRUG GANGS, DO I THINK SHE SHOULD BE ADMITTED AND HER CHILDREN AS CITIZENS, HECK YEAH. COME IN, GIRL, WE HAVE A JOB FOR YOU. >> Sean: WHY CAN'T THEY GO THROUGH THE LEGAL WAY? BUT JAMES, WHY CAN'T THEY DO IT LEGALLY WE CAN VET THEM. DO YOU BELIEVE THAT PEOPLE ARE COMING HERE BECAUSE THEY WANT A BETTER LIFE, IS THAT WHAT YOU REALLY BELIEVE? >> YOU KNOW, SEAN, WE HAVE LAWS. I DON'T BELIEVE THAT WE SHOULD DENY ANY HUMAN BEING HEALTH CARE TO SHOW UP AT THE EMERGENCY ROOM. I THINK THAT THE HIPOCRATIC OATH COMPELS YOU AND AS A CATHOLIC, I WANT THIS PERSON TO HAVE BASIC HUMAN RIGHTS. SHOULD WE HAVE A BORDER, YES, WE SHOULD HAVE A BORDER. AND MAYBE WE NEED FENCES AND BIG GATES, AND I WILL SAY THIS TO MY DYING DAY, I WOULD RATHER LIVE IN A COUNTRY THAT PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO GET INTO THAT PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO GET OUT OF. >> Sean: BUT THE REALITY, WE HAVE NEVER HAD UN -- ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION AT THIS LEVEL. AND IT IS A CLEAR AND PRESENT DANGER FOR YOU, AND YOUR FAMILY, AND YOUR CHILDREN. AND WE ARE REWARDING THAT IMMIGRATION BEHAVIOUR AND IT IS WREAKING HAVOC. WHAT DO YOU SAY TO LAKE AND RILEY'S FAMILY. RACHEL MORAN'S FAMILY. J JOCELYN'S FAMILY. THEY LOST THEIR 12-YEAR-OLD LITTLE GIRL IN HOUSTON AND IT WAS KILLED BY ONE OF HARRIS AND BIDEN'S UNVETED ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT. WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THEM, JAMES. YOU LOVE YOUR CHILDREN. >> I DON'T KNOW, I WOULD HAVE GREAT DIFFICULTY. AS ANYONE WOULD HAVE GREAT DIFFICULTY, HOW WERE YOUR CHILDREN SLAUGHTERED WITH A LEGAL WEAPON THAT NO ONE NEEDS TO HAVE. >> Sean: YOU ARE CHANGING THE TOPIC. THEY WOULD BE ALIVE IF WE SECURED THE BORDER. >> THE BORDER HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH IT. >> Sean: THEY ENTERED THE COUNTRY -- >> THE BORDER HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH IT. AGAIN, THE BORDER HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS. PLEASE FACT CHECK ME. THE BORDER HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THESE MASS SHOOTINGS WITH THE AR15S. WE ALL HAVE DIFFICULT QUESTIONS THAT WE HAVE TO ASK. ANYONE CAN SAY THAT. WE CAN SIT IN THE PEANUT GALLERY AND THROW PEANUTS. AND I DO THINK THAT WE CAN HAVE -- BORDER CROSSINGS RIGHT NOW ARE ABOUT THE SAME AS THEY WERE WHEN PRESIDENT BIDEN TOOK OFFICE. WAS THERE INEFFECTIVE BORDER POLICY AT ONE TIME, YES. BECAUSE WHEN YOU LISTEN TO THE PROGRESSIVE LEFT WINGERS, IT IS ALWAYS LEADING TO BAD POLICY. BUT RIGHT NOW, IF YOU LOOK AT THE POLICIES NEGOTIATED, DONALD TRUMP KILLED IT. THAT'S A FACT. >> Sean: DONALD TRUMP KILLED -- THAT PLAN TO BE CLEAR, WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN IMPLEMENTED UNLESS A FEW MILLION PEOPLE CROSSED THE BORDER ON ANY DAY, AND THEN IT WOULD BE DISCRETIONARY. THAT'S NOT A BORDER SECURITY PLAN. LET ME ASK YOU THIS. >> OKAY. OKAY. >> Sean: YOU ARE SUPPORTING HARRIS AND WALZ. TELL ME -- I WANT YOU TO ANSWER TWO QUESTIONS. IS AMERICA BETTER OFF THAN IT WAS FOUR YEARS AGO, NUMBER ONE, AND NUMBER TWO, I WANT YOU TO TELL ME SPECIFICALLY, WHAT HAS KAMALA HARRIS DONE AS VICE PRESIDENT THAT WARRANTS A PROMOTION? >> LET ME SAY THIS. IT IS BETTER OFF THAN IT WAS FOUR YEARS AGO. LOOK AT THE EMPLOYMENT RATE AND THE STOCK MARKET FOUR YEARS AGO. LOOK AT THE CRIME RATE FOUR YEARS AGO. ARE YOU KIDDING ME? >> Sean: CRIME IS UP! >> AGAIN, I WILL LET YOU ASK ME QUESTIONS. PLEASE LET ME ANSWER QUESTIONS. OKAY? I AM GIVING YOU VERY SPECIFIC METRICS TO LOOK AT. AND IF YOU ASK ME, IF THE COUNTRY IS BETTER OFF TODAY THAN FOUR YEARS AGO, MYNSWER IS HECK, YEAH. ALL RIGHT! PERIOD. END OF STORY. THAT'S JAMES CARVILLE'S VIEW. ARE THERE THINGS WE NEED TO WORK ON. AND THE CRIME RATE IS DROPPING TO ALMOST HISTORIC LEVELS AND I KEEP HEARING DONALD TRUMP TALK ABOUT RISING CRIME. I DON'T KNOW WHAT HE IS TALKING ABOUT. I HEAR PEOPLE TALK ABOUT URBAN HELL HOLES AND I AM SITTING HERE IN CHICAGO, AND TO TELL YOU THE TRUTH, IT IS A PRETTY DAM NICE CITY. >> Sean: JAMES, JAMES -- 30 PEOPLE WERE SHOT THIS WEEKEND, AND FIVE WERE DEAD. NOT EXACTLY SAFE. AND I HAVE SCROLLED THE NAMES OF PEOPLE SHOT, SHOT AND KILLED IN THIS CITY. LET ME ASK YOU WHAT ARE EXTREME POSITIONS OF KAMALA HARRIS. DO YOU THINK IT IS A GOOD IDEA WHEN SHE SAYS TO BAN FRACKING AND DRILLING? DO YOU THINK THAT'S GOOD FOR THE ECONOMY TO DO THAT. >> NO. NO. I DON'T. >> Sean: DO YOU SUPPORT HER. >> I DON'T. >> Sean: I HAVE ONE CONCESSION OUT OF YOU. >> I DON'T THINK SHE HAS THAT POSITION TODAY. AND I THINK HUMAN BEINGS EVOLVE. AND I THINK THEY HAVE EXPERIENCE AND I KNOW THERE ARE MANY THINGS THAT I THOUGHT, FOR INSTANCE IN 2008, I WAS POINTING OUT, PRESIDENT OBAMA AND SECRETARY CLINTON WERE AGAINST GAY MARRIAGE. AND THEY ARE NOT ANY MORE. GOOD FOR THEM. AND WHEN SOMEBODY EVOLVES FROM A POSITION TO A BETTER POSITION, I WILL GIVE THEM CREDIT. >> Sean: ALL RIGHT. DO YOU THINK THAT WE SHOULD ELIMINATE PRIVATE HEALTH INSURANCE BECAUSE KAMALA THINKS SHE WANTS MEDICARE FOR ALL. UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE. YOU KNOW, YOU AND I ARE GETTING A LITTLE BIT OLDER, I WOULD LIKE TO KEEP MY HEALTH CARE. SHE SAYS WE SHOULD ELIMINATE PRIVATE INSURANCE. HERE IS WHAT SHE SAID. >> DO YOU SUPPORT THE MEDICARE FOR ALL BILL, INITIALLY COSPONSORED BY BERNIE SANDERS. YOU ARE ALSO A COSPONSOR. I BELIEVE THAT IT WILL TOTALLY ELIMINATE PRIVATE INSURANCE. FOR PEOPLE THAT LIKE THEIR INSURANCE, THEY DON'T GET TO KEEP IT? >> WELL, LISTEN, THE IDEA IS THAT EVERYONE GETS ACCESS TO MEDICAL CARE. AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH AN INSURANCE COMPANY, HAVING THEM GIVE YOU APPROVAL, HAVING TO GO THROUGH THE PAPERWORK. AND WHO OF US HAS NOT HAD THE SITUATION WHERE YOU ARE WAITING FOR APPROVAL AND YOUR INSURANCE COMPANY DOESN'T COVER IT. LET'S ELIMINATE THAT, LET'S MOVE ON. >> Sean: I THOUGHT SHE AND WALZ WERE RUNNING AS THE FREEDOM PARTY. I WOULD LIKE THE FREEDOM TO GET MY OWN HEALTH CARE. AND YOU WOULD LIKE YOURS TOO. >> I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD ELIMINATE PRIVATE HEALTH CARE. I DISAGREE WITH THAT. JUST LIKE I DISAGREE WITH DONALD TRUMP THAT PEOPLE WHO SERVE IN ARMED FORCES ARE FOOLS. >> Sean: HE DIDN'T SAY THAT. >> SO YOU KNOW, THAT WILL GET SOMEBODY THAT YOU CAN AGREE WITH ON EVERY POINT. BUT WHAT SHE HAS, HER POSITION HAS EVOLVED. SO AM I GOING TO SAY THAT SHE WAS WRONG FOUR OR FIVE YEARS AGO, YEAH, MAYBE SHE WAS. IF SHE HELD THE SAME POSITION TODAY, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO COME ON YOUR SHOW, AND SAY I AM VOTING FOR VICE PRESIDENT HARRIS, BUT