that was my biggest takeaway last night was it was irritating because she did well in Reading Her speech that obviously had been written for her she did well in delivering it and and she is an empty vessel she remains an empty vessel we don't know what we're electing we have clues that suggest she is nothing like the moderate Her speech writer wants us to believe she is but they are perfectly happy they the Democrats and the media that's covering for them to to keep it a mystery Charles because they understand the truth will not inur her benefit and their main takeaway is that Trump is just so such a special evil he must be stopped and we don't really care what's in the bill we'll have to pass it before we can read it yeah and it's a huge problem for them in the long run because even if it works people will eventually notice I mean Harris has not actually Advanced a single argument she's made the case that she should be president quite why she hasn't explained but she hasn't made an argument for a set of policies in which she believes or that her party is superior and so if she does become president I think a lot of people are going to be very quickly shocked and the only concession to policy in which she is thus th far indulged was to talk about price controls and subsidies for housing demand which was Savaged Savaged in the Washington Post Savaged at CNN Savaged by every major Economist and the best Jason Ferman who was Obama's favorite Economist could say was well it probably won't happen which is not a ringing endorsement and so she stopped that quite quickly uh this is an empty campaign she is a a shell and as I said earlier and as you have intimated with the clips that you've played she has largely left the details of who she is what she stands for and what she would represent to the press and it reminds me of this Old Ricky ja's joke where he's talking about God creating the Earth and you know he says and and he created the lands and the Seas and he creates the animals and then he says and it was good and D says wasn't that great you get to review your own work you get to do all the work and then you're the guy who gets to do the definitive review of your work this is how I feel about the Press they've created this completely false person and they've managed to promulgate this abroad the land so that everyone has this this insincere conception of Kamala harth and then they report on that they say wow look she's doing okay in the polls or people think that she's the future or people think that she's full of joy well yeah CU you just told them um assiduously who she is you you you you you did the work and now you're doing the review there's a couple of things on that so I mentioned at the top of the show um our friends over at commentary uh Matt ketti goes on that um podcast and he was suggesting today that if you read her speech it matches up perfectly with everything David Axelrod has been saying for a year about how Biden needed to change his messaging that the safe democracy stuff wasn't working and that what he really needed to do was change the messaging in a way that matches up perfectly with everything kamla Harris said so that's Axel Rod then today look at uh there's John favro he's part of pod save America kamla Harris absolutely crushed this presidential as any convention speech I've ever heard Ben rhods former deputy National Security adviser under Obama Kamala just did some real work on foreign policy combating autocracy supporting allies standing up to Putin speaking to the suffering of Palestinians in a way that we rarely hear this is someone ready to be president right now um my my my thought is that if any or all of these guys rich is actually advising her on how to craft Her speech her policy or otherwise behind the scene then this is absolutely grossly disgusting and irresponsible that that needs to be disclosed you you can you can help her Axel Rod can help her favro they can all help her not without disclosing it and not without then going out and commenting on the very things that you may or may not but may have been advising her on I believe is isn't Axel Rod's former political consultancy working for her now and certainly Axel Rod David Pluff is yeah so I mean it's it's all all the kind of former Obama brew and and axel Rod you know two's credit has been right about most things I mean he he was early on saying this age thing is a problem for Joe Biden early on saying we we gotta we gotta dump him and he's right about the Democracy message there was some of it at the convention we saw another you know um um video of a montage of the shocking images from January 6 he had Jamie Raskin and others making a January 6 type case but I don't think Barack Obama if I'm not mistaken I don't think he mentioned it once and KLA did did mention it but it wasn't the main focus and I think they're right to make a case against Trump that's more of the the kind of argument you make against the conventional Republican he wants to tax uh cut taxes for the rich he's out of touch he's all about the billionaires he wants to cut Social Security and Medicare which he doesn't and he wants to abortion and he's very familiar and divisive and it's time to move on that that is a much more sensible case than what they were trying to do and what the Biden campaign was trying to do true I mean it and no one would dispute that that's a better message but my only suggestion my not suggestion my what I'm saying explicitly is if Axel Rod actually is advising this campaign in any way and then goes on CNN as a supposedly right clear-minded objective analyst understanding he has Democrat you know leanings and and has helped Obama That's dishonest that is unethical it's unethical by CNN this is what John mechum got in trouble for over at MSNBC where he he had written the Joe Biden speech I can't remember which one it might have been the State of the Union remember this and then he went on MSNBC it was soaring it was amazing oh really you really love your own pen yeah it also could be could have been the Jim Crow 2.0 speech I I forget but but these all these Charlie mentioned this on the the editors recorded a while ago all these same people these historians John meechum and and others Doris K's Goodwin who advised Obama uh Biden and tried to convince him he was the next FDR are gonna be there right in January if she wins saying the same things Whispering the same things in her ear so no matter what she's running as now she will attempt to be a transformational left-wing uh president LBJ and FDR all wrapped into one as soon as she assumes office here's another one for you Jonathan Chate New York Magazine best acceptance speech I've ever seen goes on to say it was perfect absolutely perfect um okay that's not that's not what I saw but I did see somebody who was a good reader and managed not to do the weird cackle you somebody was asking about this the other day online about you know the joy joy joy joy joy joy I mean it's everywhere it's so annoying Matt Tai's been going off on this it's really irritating him um it's obviously all a campaign to excuse away her bizarre cackle and the inopportune inappropriate times she uses it Charles to me this this whole thing has been actually a very smart and effective rebranding effort Trump's big you know his greatest gift is marketing and the Democrats appears to be branding which is slightly different but related thing they took one of her biggest weaknesses this weird off-putting strange cackle and they rebranded it joyful she's joyful the Republicans are dower that was in her speech last night talking about how they're so down they're messaging so down she's happy you see she's not depressing she's a cackler that that shows how joyful she is and we're supposed to accept this as a policy prescription for our inflationary and Border problems it's risky though it is working at the moment but it is risky I think there is a very thin line between turning somebody's liabilities into a meme and making them cool by some strange process of alchemy and that person becoming a joke as a result I mean a lot of the memes about Cala Harris if the circumstances change are going to look like criticisms the coconuts and the rebranding of the laugh the palm trees and so on because she hasn't fundamentally changed I was funny you played that clip the first one you played of the journalists being obus when around her she cackled she said two words and then she cackled so she can hide it on a stage but she can't hide it forever because that's who she is and I do think although I think she has a real good chance of winning in November I do think that the time for a completely substan media driven vacuous campaign is coming to an end uh I actually don't think that the public is shallow enough to let this continue unchallenged for another 70 days maybe something can replace it and it will infuriate us just as much but there's going to come a point especially when Americans tune in which they tend not to really uh until the election gets closer when they say okay but what else is there who is this person what has she done what has she think what has she said um I think they believe that they can get away with this indefinitely I don't think that they can because I don't think you can indefinitely make her appealing so there's going to have to be something else as interference well you know you you rais an interesting point how she the cackle came out after 2 seconds in that exchange so we've now learned from the reporting that she was very brushed back on her heels after her interview with Lester Holt where I mean truly one of the nicest guys in journalism um and he said to her you haven't been to the border and she she's the borders are and she's like and I haven't been to Europe right and everyone saw what a FAA it was and how dumb she looked and the reports are that she was actually very rattled by her own performance and went underground for a while like started hiding from the press and started Googling what Fox News was saying about her it's the same person Rich who last night got up there and in one of the few references to her father where's her father by the way where is her father her father is alive but was not there and apparently does not have a relationship with her we looked for any sort of public comment it's been years since he said anything about her I have no idea what the story is the guy was absolutely a Marxist he met the wife at a civil rights event she appears to have been very marxy too and that's their daughter I really don't know what happened to Donald Harris anyway she said in one of the few lines about him that the mother when they went to the playground would say stay close and the father would say run Kamala run Don't Be Afraid don't let anything stop you from my earliest years she told us he taught me to be Fearless but Rich she's not and this reminds me so much of the you know how it is when when you're at a cocktail party and somebody's like oh well I'm the kind of person who and then whatever comes next is a is a lie about themselves right it's what they wish they were because nobody talks about themselves that way the 7 Foot Center doesn't tell you how tall he is so the fact that she's telling us I was taught to be Fearless the same woman who had to rehearse her dinner party conversation with her staff it's a lie right she is scared and that's a danger you put somebody like that in the position of the presidency and you don't know who's calling the shots yeah so this is the case that Trump has to make a lot of Republicans are saying it's it's all about policy he's got to talk about policy yeah he should talk about policy but it all needs to come back to the sense that she's weak that she's a pH and that she's a mouthpiece for others so therefore she's not suitable to be president that's that's what you're you're going that's the clinching argument uh at at the end of the day she's not suitable for this job the fact that she can't do interviews the fact that she was too weak to stand up to the left in 2019 and told them everything that they wanted to hear and now was totally reversed herself and is all on teleprompter she's too weak she can't do this job and and that's that's the case that Trump has to make now he's gonna he has the media against him of course as all Republicans do but the the the headwinds now are stronger than they've ever been but he's got a expose her and I think you know eventually she'll do an interview I mean she's on the record saying she'll do one by the end of the month the days are ticking away here but I think it'll be you know she'll sit down with t Tim Waltz and and they'll do an interview with Rachel matow nearly weeping with joy during the whole interview and they can say they they did it some Americans enjoy using their credit cards because it can be a 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