REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE CONTINUES TO DISTANCE HIMSELF FROM PROJECT 2025, DIRECTOR OF THE PROJECT PAUL DANS HAS STEPPED DOWN. HIS CAMPAIGN, YOU-KNOW-WHO'S CAMPAIGN, HE DOESN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT. NOTHING. HE NEVER SAW IT BEFORE. NEVER HEARD OF IT. BUT HIS VP, YOU KNOW, JD, WROTE THE FOREWORD OF THE BOOK WRITTEN BY HERITAGE FOUNDATION PRESIDENT KEVIN ROBERTS WHO CO-AUTHORED PROJECT 2025. SEE HOW FUNNY THAT IS? IT'S JUST SO MIXED UP, AIN'T IT? SO, WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN? IS HE GOING TO BE ABLE TO SHAKE HIS ASSOCIATION. >> Sunny: NO, BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO KEEP ON REMINDING PEOPLE ABOUT IT, I MEAN. [ APPLAUSE ] OF COURSE NOT. >> Whoopi: YOU KNOW. >> Sunny: I THINK WHAT'S SO FUNNY ABOUT IT IS THAT THE HUBRIS WITH WHICH THE CURRENT REPUBLICAN NOMINEE, DONALD TRUMP, HAD GOING INTO THIS RACE AGAINST JOE BIDEN AND THEN JUST PICKING JD VANCE WHICH OBVIOUSLY WAS A POOR CHOICE, AND THINKING HE COULD GET AWAY WITH THE AMERICAN PEOPLE NOT KNOWING ABOUT THEIR PLANS FOR GETTING RID OF EDUCATION, THE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION, GETTING RID OF YOUR OVERTIME PAY, MAKING SENIORS PAY MORE MONEY FOR PRESCRIPTIONS, I MEAN THE LIST GOES ON AND ON AND ON. IT'S A VERY DARK VISION OF AMERICA AND THEY'RE TRYING NOT TO SAY, WE DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH IT. 22 PEOPLE IN HIS ADMINISTRATION ARE PART OF IT. >> Whoopi: DO YOU HAVE SOME OF THE NAMES. >> Sunny: I DON'T HAVE. >> Sara: IT'S A LONG LIST. WE DON'T HAVE TIME. >> Sunny: I'D LIKE TO READ BRIEFLY JD VANCE'S FOREWORD. HE WRITES, WE ARE NOW ALL REALIZING THAT IT'S TIME TO CIRCLE THE WAGONS AND LOAD THE MUSKETS IN THE FIGHT THAT LAY AHEAD, THESE IDEAS ARE AN ESSENTIAL WEAPON. >> Sara: DOES HE STILL HAVE A MUSKET? >> Sunny: THAT'S WHAT HE WROTE. >> Whoopi: THAT'S WHAT'S SCARING HER. >> Sunny: I MISSPOKE. IT'S 140 PEOPLE FROM HIS ADMINISTRATION. I APOLOGIZE. 140 PART OF PROJECT 2025. >> Sara: I THINK THE SCARY THING YOU TALK ABOUT THE LONG GAME OF REPUBLICANS HAVE HISTORICALLY DONE VERY WELL AT LAYING THE GROUNDWORK IN LOCAL GOVERNMENT, ONE THING THAT THE HERITAGE FOUNDATION PRESIDENT SAID AFTER THIS STEPPING DOWN OF THE 2025 PERSON IS OUR COLLECTIVE EFFORTS TO BUILD PERSONAL APPARATUS FOR POLICY MAKERS OF ALL LEVELS, FERTILITY, STATE, AND LOCAL WILL CONTINUE SO I THINK THE BIG THING IS KEEP YOUR EYES OPEN BECAUSE THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY DON'T LOOK OVER THERE WHILE WE ALL KNOW WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT. A LOT OF WHAT THEY ALREADY WANT WAS IMPLEMENTED IN TRUMP'S FIRST -- >> Whoopi: YES. >> Sara: WHAT HAUNTED ME IN THE BOOK, IN JD VANCE'S FOREWORD THAT SUNNY REFERENCED, HE SAYS THAT CULTURAL NORMS AND ATTITUDES MATTER. OKAY. NORMAL AND CULTURAL NORMS HAVE BEEN WRONG A LOT IN THIS COUNTRY AND AS HE SAID IT, IT REALLY WAS SAYING WHAT WE ALWAYS TALK ABOUT, GOING BACK TO THE GOOD OLD DAYS. HE'S KIND OF REFERENCING THAT DON'T LOSE SIGHT OF THOSE TRADITIONAL VALUES, HE KEEPS SAYING, SO THAT WAS A LITTLE OMINOUS AS WELL BEYOND THE MUSKET REFERENCE WHICH I JUST DIDN'T REALIZE THAT WAS STILL A THING. >> Sunny: IT'S A THING FOR HIM. >> Joy: THE GOOD OLD DAYS WERE HIDEOUS, LET'S FACE IT. >> Sara: FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE. >> Whoopi: AWFUL. FOR WOMEN THEY WERE NOT GREAT. >> Joy: FOR NONWHITE PEOPLE, FOR IMMIGRANTS. IT'S ALWAYS BEEN ROUGH FOR PEOPLE. >> Whoopi: A COUNTRY IS ROUGH. >> Sunny: YEAH. >> Whoopi: PUTTING TOGETHER A COUNTRY LIKE THIS COUNTRY WHERE YOU HAVE SAID TO EVERYONE, WE WANT TO HEAR WHAT EVERYONE HAS TO SAY. WE'VE LOST SIGHT OF THE FACT THAT PART OF THE GREATNESS OF THE U.S. IS ROUGH AND TUMBLE. YOU KNOW, YOU AND I HAVE TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO BE HERE TOGETHER. >> Sunny: YEAH. >> Whoopi: REGARDLESS OF WHAT I LOOK LIKE, THINK, YOU HAVE TO LIVE WITH ME LIKE I GOT TO LIVE WITH YOU LIKE WE HAVE TO KEEP REMINDING PEOPLE, WHILE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MAKING SURE WOMEN KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON, IT'S NOT BECAUSE WOMEN DON'T, IT'S BECAUSE WE NEED THE MEN TO RECOGNIZE THAT THE WOMEN ARE ON TOP OF THEIR STUFF. WE'RE TRYING TO HELP Y'ALL. [ APPLAUSE ] YOU KNOW? >> Joy: CAN I SAY ONE THING? BEFORE THE BREAK WE WERE TALKING ABOUT HOW COLLEGE KIDS HAVE TO VOTE AND ALL THAT STUFF. YOUNG PEOPLE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND SOMETHING. IF THIS 2025 GOES INTO OPERATION, YOUR MOTHER, YOUR GRANDMA, YOUR FATHER, YOUR OLDER PEOPLE IN YOUR FAMILY, THEY WILL NOT MAYBE BE GETTING MEDICARE, SOCIAL SECURITY, EVERYTHING IS GOING TO GET CUT BACK. THAT MEANS IT'S ON YOU. THAT'S ON YOU SO YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER THESE THINGS WHEN YOU'RE A YOUNG PERSON. LIFE MAY BE YOUR OYSTER RIGHT NOW BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO LAST. >> Whoopi: WELL, YEAH, BECAUSE YOU'RE HEADING IN OUR DIRECTION. IT'S JUST -- IT JUST -- AND YOU WANT TO BE, BECAUSE THE ALTERNATIVE IS NOT THE BEST. >> Sunny: RIGHT. >> Whoopi: SO YOU WANT TO BE ALIVE BUT YOU ALSO HAVE TO RECOGNIZE WE'RE ALL IN IT TOGETHER REGARDLESS OF RACE, CREED, COLOR, WHATEVER. WE ARE ALL TAKING CARE OF EACH OTHER FOR EACH OTHER. IT MIGHT NOT BE MEANINGFUL FOR ME BUT IT MIGHT BE MEANINGFUL FOR MY FRIEND NEXT DOOR AND HAVE TO LOOK OUT FOR HER. SO WE'RE ALL IN IT. MAKE SURE YOU KNOW WHAT W