it's difficult to analyze a debate where uh there is that much lying and the exchanges are so unusual and the candidates could be more different however let's do this with some manitobans who were watching last night as was I uh my next two guests might be uh young with they are both well seasoned Debaters Emily man and Aiden Peters are members of the youth parliament of Manitoba an organization that holds model parliamentary sessions where members debate one another on hot political topics Emily is also captain of the maples Collegiate Debate Club hi Emily hi and in uh Aiden is in Studio as well hi Aiden hi uh you can hear I'm I'm I'm buzzing to get into this so what did you think of the debate last night um I think comparatively between the June debate between uh Trump and Biden and the debate last night it's definitely less childish which was really nice to see we actually got a lot of nice Clash that wasn't just them calling each other clowns um or talking about golf um yeah so you could hear some substance in it overall in terms of policy positions things like that yeah and what was your first impression after you watched last night Aiden uh my first impression was pretty much the same I thought it was a lot more civil than previous debates especially that we see Donald Trump in and I think that the moderators had a really good control over the debate and were very quick to fact check compared to previous debates why did you want to watch in the first place well I wanted to watch because I think this is an issue that affects us all America is our biggest trade partner America is the country we share the biggest border with um America is like our biggest cultural importer and exporter uh and what happens in America is going to affect us here whether it be jobs whether it be uh tariffs whether it be like anything America we are so ingrained with them and how about you Emily why did you want to watch last night well the United States of America holds a great model for how a lot of our own countries can be run um some of the topics that were discussed last night are topics that Canadian that we're worried about in the upcoming election can I stop you there tell me tell me which ones you're thinking of when you say some of the topics you know we should be leaning into because we're you're worried about them here too um well I think a lot of what we see on social media right now is a great opposition towards Trudeau um so we might have a conservative government next year so I know at least people my age are definitely um really worried about um immigration and especially abortion it might not be that big of a problem here but um who knows maybe somewhere down the line because we're so closely related with the United States that might be a future for um young women and people that can carry children somewhere down in the future um we just heard that obviously the exchange about uh about some of those U some of those details last night what were some of the standout moments uh for you last night Aiden what would you uh cringe at or or or remark at or lean into to want to know more what were some of the standout moments um this isn't a particular moment but I saw Trump softening his stance on a lot of issues and I think that's because he's starting to realize he's becoming the political loser here and you saw it with something like abortion he was no longer saying oh abortions uh shouldn't be allowed he was starting to say oh the people should get to choose and we we should make States go vote another other standout moments for me were just like the blatant lies antagonisms from Trump still um saying things like immigrants were eating dogs and cats uh saying things like they were killing babies after they were born um those were some huge standout moments for me um yeah he he and he didn't give a clear answer on whether or not he would put in a federal ban an abortion which is in his plan 2025 and that's what he was pressed on on that clip that he didn't clearly answer that he put it he put it state to state as it is how about for you what were the standout moments Emily I'll definitely agree with that first point that Aiden made um I I think that kamla had really really stood out when she was uh talking about her own policies while they were still a little bit vague and for certain points I'm still not entirely sure where she stands on that um just because of the vague language she uses um Trump definitely um has a platform of just being opposite whatever Kamala says which is really interesting when you're trying to stand your own ground found on a debate stage mhm um a little disappointing but um you know you can't expect way too much from him right now um I was going to ask you how you would describe the debating styles of each of the candidates last night but knowing a little bit about debating um Donald Trump didn't really debate because it's it's hard debates are supposed to be all about sort of outlining something and bringing you know back up with facts so I found it difficult to sort of analyze because there were a lot of lies last night I don't know about the two of you in terms of trying to follow this as a debate um I I even found that it's not even just the lies I found that Trump is just hard to follow he he he strings together Buzz words and it's just like abortion this fracking this illegal aliens that and it becomes This Tornado of just buzzword and it's gobbley goop it's not debate it's not really anything it's just some old person stringing together words what could they have learned from from the two of you in terms of your experience debating uh you were saying you were waiting for more more substance yeah um I have to agree on that point as well I feel like when I'm listening to Trump speak I'm like walking through a tornado and things are just flying at me as they come I yeah I also found it extremely hard to follow his speech patterns um and what he was going to bring up next because he would finish a point and then bring something new in um I found that he couldn't really use his time effectively because he would constantly interject or when it was his turn to speak he wouldn't be speaking on the current issue or Topic at hand he would be going back to what was said previously and bringing it back just so he can get his his last punches in but honestly I don't think it would be that worth listening to the ones that he keeps bringing back because if you can't use your time effectively then what does it really matter um I think he could really benefit from if he's going to go on a trail of multiple things at once that are similar um he could really signpost which is a technique in debate that we use um where you're clearly stating your points and then you go through them in order uh thank you both for being in here uh really great analysis this morning from uh two young people who give me hope for the future uh we'll have you back sometime soon thank you very much thank you thank you very much that's Emily man and Aiden Peterson members of the youth parliament of Manitoba analy analyzing last night's presidential debate uh that happened down south let