Ravens 53-man Roster Projections! Who gets CUT? Who SURPRISES?

my hair go crazy welcome in uh to another episode of 410 Sports Talk I'm James has along with my co-host Glenn Martin and DK in the background we are here ladies and gentlemen Glen can you believe it's finally time I can't but Jimbo you got to fix that fan because the mic is picking up picking it up yeah it's off now there you go there you go cool no it's just point it right at you to where it's not hitting the mic because I could hear it into the I'll do my best it's okay I'll just sweat it out it's good for you anyway um get the toxins out but no it's crazy how quickly it's coming I I know you're in you're in California right now but if you're in if you were here you'd you'd realize it feels a whole lot like fall right now like it was like 72 and Breezy it felt like a fall day it felt like hoodie weather out there today h dude so frustrating because I was like oh it's gonna be nice to escape the heat like there's no there's not a ton of humidity here and I get here and it's 90 all week dude it's be it couldn't be more beautiful today um than it is what's going on Tariq what's going on John Texas Outlaw Mark what's going on buddy John El broki it doesn't matter in Texas though Glenn because no one goes outside they just stay in the air conditioning yeah like no no one goes outside when it's hot out in Texas yeah well that's what I've heard I heard that didn't they have some sort of air conditioning issues or power outages right in Texas and they were they were really hurting for I'm sure sounds right I think somebody's fish were dying cuz their fish tank was getting so so hot cuz their air conditioning was broke was like cooking their fish inside their home like it's insane oh Texas Outlaw sorry dude you got to work in it all day that's brutal I do not envy you my man just a quick quick anecdote my brother got married in in uh Houston Texas in August and the during the photo shoot of the families of the two you know the couple my mom quit in the middle of the 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over to the online casino and get in a hand of blackjack or poker or unwind in one of the over 150 slot games head to the website today and use com promo code believe bav V to get in on the action bet online the game starts here let's go baby let's go and uh just like you said Glenn I'm excited the game will be starting now we're going to get into our 53 M rosters our own predictions each of course to see who uh is uh more correct in their predictions but I think the the the fun part will be coming together to create a collective 410 Sports Talk roster prediction to see how close we can get to being correct but really quickly Glenn I got to ask you a question I've been seeing some things this is not Ravens related this is Bengals related about the Joe burrow glove thing have you seen this because is this effort to protect his his uh repaired wrist is that what this is that that's what it seem well I think it's assoc you know obviously generally the glove is associated with the grip now they said he haven't he hasn't thrown with the ball he's been wearing it in between drills and things like that now everybody of course in the off season is raving about Joe and he was on the pivot podcast and of course he creates a ton of headlines and people love it but you know you talked about this no one is come back from this successfully in this in this position right like it's it's a pretty rough injury good time well what tells me is that if he's worried about his grip it's not because his hands are too small like Kenny picket or or two glove Teddy it's because he feels like he doesn't have the grip strength which that is a huge problem because if you can't grip the ball I mean ball security is going to be a huge issue your ability to spin the ball uh for you know throws down the field yeah that's not that's not just a weird one just just weird to see him I would be concerned if I was a Bengals fan yeah Don in the glove and I know everyone's been excited you know as far as in the Bengals Camp about him getting through Camp healthy and you know he's looking good they're looking sharp and whatever but yeah I I agree it's their offensive line is pretty beating yeah so it's definitely and you know Joe will hold on to the ball no matter what um so anyway I want to get your thoughts on see if you had any information that maybe I didn't have but it seems to be weird thing kind of floating around I'm like H yeah yeah I'm not mad at all if uh I mean I don't want a guy to be hurt but sure I'm not mad at all if the um when isn't you he like your favorite college player of all time he had the greatest College season I've ever seen my favorite okay I'm totally troll I I was I'm not I'm not I don't know see it's weird it's like they got the The Tackle um was it Mims they got the the the tackle that was the bu no no the Georg right giant uh and the only issue and the only thing that kept him kind of off a lot of other boards much sooner is the injury issues well that's why you do combine Medicals because he's hurt in Camp and that's why I think the Ravens fans or Ravens were smart by not even entertaining that because those Medicals man you gotta watch them because now they're both hurt and now they got Trent Brown who's who's 100 years old and he's I don't know I just think their offensive Line's going to be certainly not a workout Warrior I mean he's very Orlando brownes yeah Y and now Chase is holding out which I absolutely love and I love to see the exploding Market at wide receiver just keep driving that price right up I love it that's right oh and bot's gotta love it too because he knows that Bengals owner is like pinching pennies over there he's got him in like an inflatable practice facility it's like a big uh you know those kids bring their birthday parties the jumpers the bouncy houses it's like basically their practice facility right so um yeah they have those like big fans in each corner you know to keep it inflated oh yeah y imag somebody runs by and Pops it get out of here run for your life head for the hills what's going on Cedric sorry you can't stick around Redbeard the legend the captain he says had to make sure you saw this did you hear about Joe flacko scrambling in joint practices today that made anarumo uh double over in laughter I did not but he better show some damn respect yeah for the great Joe flacko if he's doubling over in laughter first of all Jo be a starting quarterback here soon so show some respect if you look at the history of Anthony Richards yeah Richardson's Health yeah I don't think you're wrong there but also uh he was he was he was better than his quarterback last year I know it's not Anar rumo's team but uh anarumo be careful laughing and giggling and Old Joe because Joe has done the Bengals in many times before and he he he might just do it again if he's given the opportunity in a Colts uniform yeah no I agree yeah no laughing at the vet who's a who's a certified vet could I beat him in a race now or no Joe me and Joe now that is a good race that's a race I think that's a race okay now the thing you'd have to determine is the distance you're both I think long Striders right but he I don't know if he gets you on top speed that's the hard part you know what I'm saying because he's bigger he's taller than me's probably got an even longer stride and like while he's not in great shape he's probably more accustomed to sprinting at this point oh well Redbeard goes on to say actually he was laughing out of anger because apparently Joe torched their secondary on that scramble all right well then that answers it I cannot beat Joe Flo in a race there's absolutely no chance if he's beating the secondary of the Bengals um yeah that's yeah there goes another guy can't beat in a race oh I might not beat him a race if he's torching the secondary shoot that's a good point that's rough I don't know if I'd beat John Harbaugh in a race at this point I'm starting to lose confidence in in all this like it's going down like I bring bring wink back I could probably beat Wink in a foot race certainly yeah I mean I mean of course Zack or is out of the picture for either of us oh Zack would yeah he's he's what he's younger than me I think yeah I think he is I think he's like 32 33 yeah yeah so nuts bro nuts yeah uh all right well I think it's about that time Glenn yeah we're gonna get into our roster predictions is putting up the one minute sign oh okay so he's work he's still working on his spreadsheet here because we wanted to make sure uh you're getting um you're getting consensus but me and Jimmy I'm sure we haven't gone over our individual list but I'm sure we're going to have disagreements and we're going to Hash it out uh I'm going to convince Jimmy why he's wrong and he's going to um realize it and then ultimately adjust his list to match mine all right so this is what I think we'll do DK is almost done he's got special teams in offense he's working on the defense why don't we just start and then DK can put up the graphic once we kind of get going we'll start with the easy ones things like that yeah um and I don't even think the the first position is that easy outside of the first two but why don't we start at quarterback yeah yeah for sure of course El freaky and Josh Johnson I think are are the quarter but that's the only you're keeping you're not keeping a third I that's you know what that's why I've been light I'm trying to figure figure out why I'm light but neither of them have given me a compelling reason to do anything put them on the practice squad no thank you yeah but they're going to keep three because you can have that emergency third that doesn't even count against your active roster uh active game day roster I should say um so I'm gonna pick three I'm I'm sticking with two okay oh earn that to see quarterback spot you don't just yeah but when you have a 38-year-old backup who's you know I I I think you're going to keep a because what you don't want to do is end up in a situation like the Niners did the playoffs they have a quarterback Josh Johnson no no no I mean like who did they end up with at quarterback after everyone got hurt Brock py came back in and he literally couldn't even throw the ball because his elbow was destroyed so he handed it off to every time and watched his running back get killed man you know what I would do any chance he could have chucked it left-handed oh like just some short stuff you know what I mean how can you throw right-handed how do you throw right-handed oh I don't know a better way to say this I throw like a girl right-handed and if my sister heard that she would absolutely kill me yeah well I imagine probably most of these guys can't throw with their off hand right I can't throw with my left hand I mean it's it's going to be a disaster I it'll go somewhere but not where I'm intending yeah that's fair so yeah I think uh especially when the the being open is like I mean how big of a window is open in the NFL it's pretty pretty small but um I'm going to say they keep three quarterbacks okay yep and my third quarterback is Emory Jones it has to be if you have three I mean l has done nothing Doo no no and if you mean to tell me that only because he's he was drafted that that makes him get the the spot over Emery nah not not in my book I don't buy it for one second Emy has shown that that uh he's shown far more in his short time here than than Devin Larry so I'm going to go with three and emry Jones is my third and I'm not having any other way about it Jimbo yeah no I mean I agree if you go with three it's got to be emry Jones as your as your emergency ly I'm good you can put him on the practice squad if you want to use him for that or you can just let him walk he's done nothing for me uh at all uh but I so I agree with you right now I'm gonna stay light and I'm gonna say you ride with who you got because we got too much talent in other places we got too much talent other places we R we we ever only kept two in history in the history of our team I can't remember a year yeah yeah we have no right yeah we have didn't we just a few didn't we just a few years ago what who was the two was it Hy and Lamar is that what you're saying we we had to have gone through year it was just Huntley and lar h two years DK two years well we can move on to the next one I'm gonna but our Lads is does a good job of keeping Archives of depth charts I'm just going to go back a few while while we do this and just check to make sure well let me go to special teams real quick because I think that's easy for for everyone Justin Tucker Stout and Nick Moore are the three oh yeah any arguments no I think that's pretty safe okay fair uh okay so so um all right so that's for both of us now let's go right to wide receiver I'm keeping one two three four five six one two I've what the heck one two three four five six seven you know what Jimbo did see two years ago they only kept two so in that regard I will you already side all right look that didn't take long first position group first of all hold on hold on hold on you're like hold on hold on hold on I don't like how this is going think of something to say good I was I I even though I was wrong I I was kind of right and you agreed with me that that we would keep Emory if no no no I said we keep a third still Conor right if we keep an emergency quarterback you are right in that it's Emery Jones but I don't think we keep you know what you're right okay we don't need to keep three out the gate and I don't think there's any reason to think either of those wouldn't get through the practice squad so okay moving on dude how many wide receivers do you have see this will affect your numbers of course I have seven no we've never kept seven I'm keeping seven that's fine I'm just telling you I'm keeping seven in a run first offense you're keeping seven I'm keeping seven that's what I'm doing I trust hold on let's not jump ahead why are we jumping ahead we haven't we we go down the list oh shoot sorry you know what I didn't even I wasn't even referencing the list my bad you know what my bad let's go to running back next oh see I skip the running backs right to the tight ends gez running backs all right this will be fun of course Derrick Henry Justice Hill DK has Patrick Ard in here that's fine we we'll leave him in there I think we all agree with those three my next guy I think we also agree with and my last guy in this group is Owen Wright I agreed yeah absolutely yeah okay look at that all right we agreed yeah 100% I mean look you're smart dude all right moving on to the next one we came to a quick agreement there no no discussion tight end we have Mark Andrews Isaiah likeley Charlie kler and if you wanna take Ricard from running back and put him at tight end which I think now a tight end than a running back since he does so much at that spot but either way we agree there right no 100% y okay sorry Kadir hope Kadir makes the practice squad I think he's a perfect candidate for that um but I don't see him making the opening day all right let's get into wide receiver so do we agree that Zay Batman aalor tylon Wallace and TZ Walker are gonna make the team yeah the only thing I don't know we've seen some some stuff on Twitter that TZ Walker is going to IR yeah but we'll count him for the sake of this we'll him as a member of the team because uh we're not exactly sure what's going on right like I haven't seen an ESPN report I haven't seen a bleacher report I haven't seen anything validated if you guys have please let us know I haven't seen anything have you no no in fact I've seen more people saying I want to see a whole lot of TZ in the third preseason game than I have anything saying he's gone but I do think we have to add a name next to Dayton Wade because they did sign uh the veteran uh Miller a few uh Miller and man have they tried to Hype that guy up in in practice acting like he's making every single play u but I do think he he deserves to be up here so appreciate that truth teller who who kind of brought that to attention he deserves to be on there because yeah he's a vet and he's made plays so far and he's he's kind of got some deep threat ability but it looks like you're picking between two of those three guys and I'm GNA pick just one of those three guys and if I'm only picking one I'm picking Dayton Wade and I know Gage has experience he's made Big Time catches and Big Time moments but he is coming off an ACL injury and those big time catches were you know coming from they were they were they were when he was a younger man coming from Tom Brady uh who can who can take chicken you know what and turn into chicken salad about with anything so I'm not so sure we should judge Gage's uh record as an indication that's what he's going to do here I mean we've seen Tom Brady turn garbage receivers into pro bowlers plenty of times so I'm giving it to Dayton Wade who's made way more plays in purple than Gage has that's for damn sure and we saw him versatility saw him as a kick returner and so I think he brings a little bit more from a versatility standpoint than Gage and Miller do but that's my six those five that we agreed upon and Dayton Wade is my last no I like it I the only thing is I I'm keeping they forced my hand I have to keep Dayton Wade and I want to keep Russell Gage and so I'm keeping seven that's just it is why do you want to keep Russell Gage so bad so the veteran presence I don't think we have a ton of vets out there a ton of proven Commodities think about this Glenn Z flowers at number one if baitman goes down it's Z flowers Nelson aalor yeah but do you feel a lot whole lot better if just engages in that group I I do I because because he's been there you talked about a guy making chicken crap into chicken salad and I know Tom Brady does that I think the the the best guy since Tom Brady at doing that Lamar Jackson I think he's better than Pat Mahomes anybody else said it I think Lamar takes good rece or not good receivers and and gets him a paycheck so uh yeah I'm I'm I think that I was gonna keep Russell gagee the thing for me is that Dayton Wade has forced my hand which I'm happy about uh so I've got to go seven he's forced his way on this roster man now uh Redbeard does point out another guy now on this list is Deontay Hardy yeah I'm not putting him on the he's not on my list because he's not making the team but I'm saying as far as the consideration in I guess there's only so much room we have but yeah I don't think Deontay Hardy is a making this team I think he's been banged up I get that he you know has history of being a good kick returner but the way this kick return right change has happened I'm not so sure like I would be fine with tyon Wallace and and Justice Hill as my primary kick returners well we already saw we already saw that um Wright can do it he almost broke for a big one I think the kick return game will will be different I just don't think we've gotten enough enough out of him we've seen enough from him to say hey we're going to designate this guy as our kick returner with the depth and the roster that we have now someone is saying they gave him a lot of if I remember his deon's contract was was no guarantee of any roster spot unless I'm mistaken when I remember but I I I'm pretty sure the guaranteed money on his deal where's his guaranteed money I got to look this up let me let me try and find Deon and the other thing too I understand the point about the guaranteed money but you better believe that if Eric D and John Harbaugh have consensus that he's not one of the guys unless it's a insane unless it's Lamar Jackson doesn't I don't think it really matters that much the Ravens will bite the bullet just to have the better roster I know finances matter and I get that I remember him signing a lot of like I I don't remember him yeah he signed a what a one one year $1 million yeah one year $1.2 million deal that's nothing yeah I don't I don't think that this guarantees his let's see he got a signing bonus plus 85,000 in salary does that guarantee your spot a one-year $900,000 deal with a with a $200,000 signing bonus that guarantees you a spot I don't yeah I don't think so like what would be the there's got to be a draft guy right like there's got to be I mean draft guys that are making some more money than that right yeah I'm not buying this as as a uh as a reason why he has to make the team and and has no has to show nothing in preseason or in in uh training camp I mean he's done absolutely nothing um let me see if cut post June one let me see oh that's a Trade Post J one let me see if he's cut post June one he would have a 1.1 million in dead [Music] money that's interesting is 1.1 enough to sway a roster spot it definitely makes you think about it though I think it definitely makes you think about itmore I didn't realiz I didn't think he was see I hate that everybody's just like oh Hardy's gonna make the team he's done nothing he doesn't he's done zero in training camp zero in preseason showed us nothing as a receiver nothing as a Return Man and you're just gonna pencil that guy in because you may have made a mistake and G stand out there on an island Glenn I mean I'm right there with you I don't think he makes the team yeah I I just don't see it agrees yeah DK agrees which of those guys do you would you guys cut are you cutting Gage you cutting Wade um yeah I just don't see pencin in a guy who shown you nothing only because you made a mistake and gave him too much money on a contract yeah I agree I agree with that because that's definitely what I would deem as a mistake you just yeah guarantee a guy spot regardless of the fact that he's done absolutely nothing absolutely nothing right he hasn't even participated much so all right let's move on we could be ultimately wrong there which is you know that's cool but I'll take my chances on the fact that a guy who's shown nothing um I'm done okay cool all right so let's move on to now this is probably the most difficult the offensive line this is because the depth of the thing right like the position it's difficult so let's talk about our common consensus and let's go left to right we got Stanley Vorhees Linder bomb FAL uh Rosen garden and then add mccre to that mix as guaranteed roster spots that's six you follow you with me on those okay yeah no no yeah I'm with you oh okay okay sorry uh and then for seventh for me Cleveland has done enough to make this team this year guaranteed yeah for sure uh and then I also have Nick seac seac on here and and uh I cut Jones that's fair you can cut Jones that was a tough one for me but that was a tough I actually had him written down because he's gotten Almost 100% of backup left tackle duties behind behind uh Ronnie Stanley but I put Salo on my list because he's gotten 100% of left guard duties after bores and so I don't know who you would put in at left guard if he were to to get hurt unless you're telling me Ben Cleveland goes to left guard who by the way has gotten zero snaps at left guard since in in this Camp so the only one who's practice left guard is Salah other than Vorhees and so how like who would you put in at left guard if he were to get hurt Jimbo if not Salah because I know Sal's not on your team right right so for me even if salah's on my team and I have him or McCary out like if they're on the sideline I'm always going hey McCary left guard now the only problem that becomes if if the problem that becomes if something goes down if if if somebody else goes down then you got to move McCary over but I would I would I would happily put McCary in as my stop gap for any of those five positions over anybody else that we have okay so for me it's always even though he's not practiced in that position yeah I'm good I mean Salah has done nothing for himself he looks weak he yeah I just I just I just can't the roster spots are too valuable for me I can't keep solom man I can't but the thing about putting McCary you said it best I mean now you're you put mccre at left guard and then you're and then Ronnie sley gets hurt yeah right then you gotta move you gotta move him out now out so who's your left guard I mean I guess it's so you keep Salah Cleveland yeah I guess so but when's the last time we saw him at left guard like right no I know I know but I mean I think for any team it's not going to be a pretty picture I'd rather cut Josh Jones and keep I'm keeping nine they've they've kept 10 many years okay so I'm Gonna Keep nine and then I don't have any concerns if your Center goes down you have Nick seac go in if your left guard solid goes in Your Right Guard goes down Ben Cleveland uh and really Ben Cleveland might even go in at Center but I don't see them cutting seac when the same year they drafted after after I also have them cutting rashen ali uh so maybe that's my mistake maybe they do ke uh keep yeah maybe they do cut samec I mean we haven't seen anything out of him either right no we have Trev you know you just looked up his name and copied and pasted it but I agree with you Salah is the backup I agree with you because I just keep saying Salah I can't even that's what he goes by yeah I can't even begin to try and pronounce that right uh yeah so man see I I'm I'm taking uh yeah I'm taking so you're only keeping eight is what you're saying yep I have eight that would be a historically low amount of offensive I'm going my my lineup's historic baby that's what I'm going for seven wide receivers eight linemen you know look it's different every year it's not happening guys he's wrong okay that'll be two less than they typically keep at a at offensive line yeah that's a risky proposition it is um so we're just going to have to disagree on that cuz I ain't and if and it's pretty clear you got your heels dug in to be wrong and be okay with it and so because of that I'm not going to try and convince you that's fine that's fine well for this for for now are we making a are we is this our combined one as well DK yes of course it is see I hate conceding there's just no way we only going to keep eight if you tell me nine I just don't want to cut my other I don't want to cut my guys that's my problem how has Justin Gage already become your guy no no no I'm just saying the guys that I picked right like I mean he's not my guy like but um gosh dang it I mean I think you're right but the max Alo is eight so if we go eight if we compromise at eight who's the eighth Salah because then it solves the issue of you you won't have to squeeze M because look V's injury that's like the biggest issue we're worried about is him getting hurt again he's had injuries throughout his whole career so if he gets hurt I don't want to have to put MCC in there but then I I kind of have to yeah Glenn who who's Justin Gage oh my God am I keep saying Russell Gage okay there's there was another player named Justin Gage we can we can go with solah but I Max I'm going as eight it's just like uh who was the corner we kept saying his damn name wrong last year Roby or oh or Darby or Derby we kept saying Roby when it was Darby yeah um all right sorry about Justin eight can we go with eight Glenn no we we have to go nine on our common on our on hour because 10 is what they normally keep I'm I am I am being re uh what's it called I am I'm being I'm being reasonable going down to nine all right let's let's put a pin in it and come back to it okay all right let's go back but right now we're at eight and then we'll come back to it I'm not at eight I'm at nine no I'm okay coming back to it I'm okay coming back to it but let's see what else we're at eight we are not at eight you're at eight I'm at our list is at eight okay and but we'll come back to it all right you have my word all right thank you yes of course okay let's go to was that the entire offense man that fell fast I'd rather cut seac and keep Salah because Ben Cleveland is your backup center cut seac how is Ben Cleveland not your backup center when Linder bomb got hurt who went into Center who's been at Center for the last two weeks since since Linder bomb's been hurt it ain't been seac it's been it's been Cleveland so if you had you went nine then if we went nine are you taking Jones or seac the only reason I would say seac is because he's this year's draft pick but if you're asking me who I would want them to keep from a competitive standpoint it would be Jones what is s when have we seen exactly in fact the coaches go oh Linder bomb's hurt sex's not going in there we're putting Cleveland inand in there seac was their their so in week one if Linder Bal goes down who's going in at center it's Cleveland yeah no for sure it's definitely Cleland it's obvious like so wh why are we keeping Nick seac what's the advantage for future I mean yeah maybe for down the line but he I mean I mean Cleveland did go in there didn't look perfect but he did get the the play over say ma he did overthrow us a snap but even with all that who are the coaches saying is better yeah he's still got coach are saying that Cleveland is better obvious mccary's the tricky part in all this too because is McCary not your primary backup center McCary yeah I don't think he is anymore I don't know if he is is he I don't know I don't know so my once again my default decision is if anyone goes down if one guy goes down I'm putting McCary in their first over anyone else we have at any yeah and then if somebody else goes down okay then we have to have another conversation but if it's just one guy I don't care who it is mccary's going in that's at least how I see it okay all right let's move on to the defense all right sounds good I don't know how many we ended up with there okay D line let's see um I kept on my one two three four five do you have five Glenn same five yeah same five and uh some people are saying there's a chance uring gets cut I don't see it nah he's playing I think his best football now yeah he's ever had played in his career yeah I think he he fits he understands the system he loves it here he's a high motor guy he he's he does his job well knows his role and he's always good for some big plays G some big plays I think he's a highly underrated player Bren Urban's issue early on his career was not his ability he was always his health yeah right you know was like injury after injury after injury so yeah I agree 100% I don't know why the r man yeah I don't know why the Whispers of him getting cut uh exist but um all that being said yes I agree same five all right now Marcela says he could be one of those cut and then immediately resign now I wouldn't be shocked about that but it's just so hard for us to predict how they're going to manage that yeah so why even week one Urban will be on this team for sure yep all right so let's go to Edge uh let me see how many I got in comparison to what DK's got one two three four five six I got six one two three four five six is my math right here wait who do I have that oh he only has five on his I have adaf ajabo kvn Tavis Robinson oh it's because I put Malik Harrison here yeah same here same here but outside of that I have the exact same list but I have Malik Harrison as an edge even though he is the the probably the first replacement at linebacker too it's just we see him even when all the starters are healthy playing Edge yeah getting rotation at Edge yeah for that reason I put him in the edge group but other than that yeah I think we have the same the same group I think it's uh yep yeah okay that's a pretty strong group Perfect all right so let's go to inside linebacker I think Glenn you and I both stayed light here and went three yeah I went roquan Trent and Simpson and I went Josh Ross over Chris bour I went Chris bour because I feel like he's had more time on an active roster that's really it yeah I the reason I went Rost over board is I feel better on defense with Ross than I do with Bard on defense that's a good point now spe yeah Special Teams being not as much of a contributing factor if you're talking about a guy that is replacing somebody that's hurt right so keeping as a special teamer but not as a linebacker exactly like board that's where he's special yeah Special Teams is where he made his money but Josh Ross if he were to be put in for one game for Trenton Simpson I I think he'd probably put up eight to 10 tackles yeah you live with it sure he might have some shortcomings but I think you you live with it yeah I I don't see like when when board's in there on defense I'm not feeling good about it at all man you you're you're yeah did I just sway you back to my side on one look at you're so you know you're very mature Jimmy that you're able to allow that no but you're right it's a good point I mean as a Defender Josh Ross is better there's really no way to shape it yeah yeah he's never like Bard has never had those like wow preseason yeah yeah no that's fair all right cornerback Corner let's see how many oh [ __ ] what happened I just realized as I'm doing my Corners I did not put TJ Tampa on my team oh seagen one two three four five six two three four five six I got Seven Corners how many you got six oh well I only had six so there you go now I got seven yeah okay so let's see it's this list right here yep that's a but they typically keep six well Mallette is gonna be out but we're adding him to this list here but he has to make the team right exactly for the sake of the roster we're keeping him here um okay unforgivable that I forgot TJ Tampa he hasn't played right he's been out blame me for missing the guy he hasn't played I mean I I feel bad about it because I definitely he makes the team but yeah I don't feel bad about missing him Haven even seen TJ right um yeah Pepe ain't going anywhere yeah yeah for sure I just don't want Pepe returning anymore I'm not a fan of that I'm done with it the experiment is over and done for with me fine with that fine with that yeah but Pepe has looked fantastic like fantastic isn't it C isn't it sad that right wi special teams is about to make a big comeback guy like jacobe Jones could you imagine jacobe in these in these kickoff scenarios imagine if he found a a sliver of a seam goodbye I mean forget about because jacobe could get vertical like very few oh for sure you know what I'm saying like dude he would just find a seam and forget about it that dude could outrun an avalanche and he could always get skinny in those little he would just right through right through it didn't matter how narrow it was yeah and to DK's question I think uh Jaylen Arin Davis is on my team uh DK and I think he's on our consensus team as well yeah he's on my team um if I had to if you had to cut one of those guys right there because historically they keep six so let's just say they go with man that's so tough bro yeah it's tough but I mean that's the decision that but I would have to make I'd have to agree with you but I would I it would hurt my heart to cut him yeah yeah you're right but I I think you might be right U because I'm looking at the next list and it's like there's a tough there's some tough cuts at safety let's just jump right into it oh no Kyle Hamilton Marcus Williams and Eddie Jackson I think are consensus and I I would I'd be willing to bet that ardarius is is a consensus yes just from everything we've heard from the media uh but that would mean darl Worley and Bo braid and seni Kane that's the one I just dude I forgot about how did I forget about Eddie Jackson I'm sitting here like steing over the roster and I forgot about Eddie Jackson see I have Kane making my team I have five safeties on night well I had Kane making my team well so what do you have four well I had I had the four the same five as you but I only had four because I left Eddie Jackson off now I had yeah and he's definitely making yeah he's definitely making the team how did I forget Eddie J dude it's so tough to do I don't know this is why Eric dasta gets paid this is why he's also bald that's true that's true you know what I mean like straight up I mean hey I'd lose my hair to get paid where to get paid I'm trying to imagine you with a bald head dude oh dude if it starts going Glenn are you all gone I don't think you have to worry about that you're no no but I'm telling you if something happens it's going because then people won't know if I'm 40 or or 50 what do you think about that Jimbo iron Pablo says they could he could see them keeping braid over ardarius now braid is bra has made a ton of plays he has but the reason that won't happen it's very clear uh Glenn talked about it positional versatil is in ardarius Washington's favor and his ability to play the slot especially with Arthur mlet out two who was sitting on the bench without his pads on the whole second half of that game that was our Darius Washington yeah so that to me is an indicator he's safe I think he's fine and and look Gman says that Kane is a ball Hawk but we haven't seen that part of Kane's game he might be but we've seen the heavy hitter we've seen the tackling in space from Ardis we've seen a guy who hits way above his size and he is a Ball Hawk like there is no doubt even if it doesn't mean picks he gets his hand right as soon as the ball is getting to the catch Point that's when his hand is coming in there to break it up like he's his ball skills are are pretty special especially when you consider his size yeah I hate that I'm doing this because now I'm gonna be cutting multiple draft picks but Kane is I'm I'm taking Kane off I have to damn as much as I want him on special teams and and braid didn't make my team either like I almost want to like cut Ross and keep Kane and that like cut Ross and put him into the practice squad knowing you can Elevate him and then you only got two inside linebackers but not Game Day game day you'll have one of those two elevated if not both and who do you think is more likely to get through waivers I guess that's the better question because man it would be man I don't know man Kane looked so good tackling in space but so is Bo bra dude Bo bra and he showed off hands with the diving pick oh man yeah I this is such a tough group why did the hell did they have to sign Eddie Jackson I know and and damn whatever Gage Russell or Justin Gage all the gages why the hell they have to sign those two to just totally complicate this [ __ ] I know for real you take those two out it makes this decision so much easier so let's see though let's let's see what our total numbers are really quick so we got 21 as of right now on defense is that right DK okay okay and and and then what do we have on offense because we have some things we need to revisit to make our our our group like oh you didn't include the safeties yeah in that 21 right so let's just say we keep four D now cuz look five six three and seven oh my bad all right so that puts us at 255 okay oh we're still oh we're still way light on uh we're only at 21 because now we got to count three for special teams um so we're at what 28 and 21 we're at 49 so we got four spots open is that right is that right DK's okay what are you questioning my mental math no no no no no I'm I'm I'm only going by the Excel sheet that's all sorry uh let's see oh so you have F okay so DK has five wide receivers in that list all right so okay all right are we keeping two quarterbacks let's run down this thing two quarterbacks yes okay four running backs if you include Patrick card yes as a tight end oh yeah yeah as a running back yeah in and then three tight ends yes five wide receivers I think is low it's got to be six who's our six guy let's come to an agreement right now I think if it is truly six that's fine you can give it to Dayton Wade I think it's a toss up but you can give it to Dayton Wade he's young he's hungrier he's healthier that's fine I mean I want him to have the spot and I think you know he can he can be returned guy too yeah it'll be interesting to see what his career becomes so we got six um tackles we have three guards we have three now this is where we're light as well right and we're too light as of right now we're at seven and if we if if you truly want to get to nine I mean they typically keep 10 okay let's just what does it look like if we keep Salah and seac that's what I was gonna say let's if we Solin say ma because I'm seeing [Laughter] that what do you mean I'm not doing payroll Sean look this [ __ ] is tough it is oh we're gonna keep Eddie Jackson leean gotta gotta now let me tell you guys what if Glenn was doing payroll everyone would be paid oh yeah just too much that's dude we be running a a razor thin margin but everyone would be paid dude trust me I know I see and I know Josh Jones everybody saying he's got to make the team but and I agree like he's he's been the primary backup at left tackle a left tackle who's often injured but if if week one Ronnie Stanley gets hurt and even if Josh Jones is on this team mccary's going in at left tackle Point Blank and a discussion no doubt about it and if if Cleveland's starting at Right Guard and not Salah I mean not fele if mccre goes down Fel is going in at left tackle in my opinion over Jones so I just don't I I don't I don't see it so um all right so that would put us at three there four there and two okay so that puts us at nine offensive lineman I think that's a good that's a good um compromise that's the word I was looking for earlier I said I was compromising go to nine oh okay so I had to go up two you only had to go down one right no hold on you were at eight I was at seven which was unreasonable okay thank unreason thank you thank you okay I agreed to eight and then I agreed to nine you see that that's how reasonable I am well I was at 10 I agreed to go down to nine I I had Josh Jones making my team I had Josh Jones making my team yeah and now I hear him arguing against him all right so this would put us at 24 so we're one we have one spot left yep 24 25 and three so we got one spot left if you had one spot let's go down to defense and let's look at this safety position so you could either give it to Kane warley or bra that's the crazy we Haven even talked about how warley has been a Mainstay on this roster Jimbo yeah but DK's is highlighting Bard Don you boys are growing up in front of my oh man I tell you what I'm going Kane I let me tell you why I'm going Kane that play sealed it for me it just it seared in my head the the solo tackle as the Gunner or whatever position he was playing at that time the solo tackle in the open field sealed it for me I feel like Jon fell in love with him right in that moment oh oh I think that's a good yeah Jad is in Jad is in dude oh wait wait wait did we didn't we already equate him DK as a part of our number we did but we could cut Jaylen and put in okay all right so he's in I think it's Kane though you know what's crazy I'd almost be I'd almost rather us cut Josh Ross and hope he makes it through waivers and then sign him to the practice squad then put um put seni Kane at risk well I'm well I'm keeping Kane we got one spot open what do you mean but we're just let warley braid and B so that 25 reflects reflects Kane DK no that's what I'm saying we got one more right I thought we were oh because we're at 24 on offense 24 25 and three oh okay okay okay okay right isn't that math 40 That's 52 and would you rather keep Josh Ross and not risk him in waivers or cut him and keep Bo braid or Daryl warley and then I think you have to keep a third inside linebacker that's the thing I think you have to carry one so you just even if even if you know you're going to get him back in the practice squad then in game day you'll have three active wait but if you cut Ross who you going to who's going to be active on game day I'm saying cutting Ross is only momentarily because a a momentary thing because I don't think anyone's I think he goes through waivers and we sign him to the practice squad and still our team elevated yeah he's the game day elevation you're allowed you elevate how many members of your practice squad every game I think he's one of them I'm well so for the maybe I'm for the sake of this sake of this let's keep Kane yeah if it's between the three I'm keeping sui Kane sorry warley and sorry Bo braid does Kane make it over braid simply on draft status because we've seen for me I know that bra's made some plays but man dude like I said it's just seared into my brain soon see Kane's play I just feel like that's hella valuable it's a great play yeah and it puts him in a spot where it's like oh oh oh Don C makes a good point we have Malik Harrison what's your point oh right who's a Hy he go in he'll go in at linebacker he's a hybrid oh so you're saying you cut Josh Ross you cut Josh Ross you keep you keep Kane and braid you keep them both and then you assign and then you assign Ross to your practice squad he's a game day elevation and we've cut two we've cut two drafted guys right not if we keep Kane oh right we've cut one ly see you ly oh no and Ali yeah sorry Ali nice I know it is braid versus Kane in the final round it really is it really and they both have baled I don't want to cut either one Glenn found a way to keep them both and I'm okay with it yeah because Malik's the day one for placement anyway at linebacker then you know what this is why Don C is continuing to be a legend no we didn't forget Malik we just forgot that he was in our Edge group and that we could easily swing him over to linebacker he spayed our team the whole time we just forgot that we could put him at linebacker that's all DK is saying that he originally had him at line inside linebacker and then all right we are we are all growing up here and no you don't need to be on the 53 to be elevated from the practice squad but I'm excited to see how this turns out of course this is a really hard thing to do um we I'm excited to see who gets closer to being right and then usually usual our our as usual most likely our consensus consensus combined consensus list will be the one that is the most correct is my guess you're probably right other than my list well I just said that I my list see ladies see what I do with ladies and gentlemen you see this this is why I take Tums uh I think that's it for us though right no cutting ly or I'll go off you want to keep de Devon ly Lee say why stop it dude can't hit a no you don't need there there's only 46 out of your 53 are active on Game Day right yeah cut L he like I said he couldn't hit fish in a barrel with a shotgun dude he can't hit water falling out of a boat can't hit the broadside of a barn what other saying do you want me to bring up yeah I haven't seen anything from lry and we've seen stuff from emry so the pope tried to hit him with holy water he'd still miss I think I think what we need to do is is as an organization just realize that draft status does not Trump Merit does not Trump production yeah yep yeah yeah you're right DK you can only elevate a guy uh yeah I don't know if Four's but yeah it's somewhere around four and then you gotta either make him a main stay but I think injuries would cure like would make that not a problem like at some point in the first four weeks someone's going to go down yeah I agree but man this is freaking I think what we showed here tonight is this [ __ ] is tough it's hard it's just hard shout out to dced another gifted uh five gifted memberships thank you Don we appreciate the love and hopefully as always you guys are getting something out of the the community that we're trying to build here make sure you guys go check it out if you haven't already we got some fun material in there a lot there's a lot of safeties yeah yes but ardarius is more of a slot Corner let me just say that okay and we like our safeties who cares let's go baby players these are players hey does that uh it's uh T Martin who was beaten on the table for Red Beard he's for uh no it's okay we all get it wrong you just don't let him participate in draft stuff later exactly exactly he's he's lost that privilege yeah your card has been confiscated now you know what we we let him think he still has the privilege and then we just ignore all the uh input right exactly I love it yeah this is challenging but guys we will be back uh of course preparing you for the last and final preseason game um which is also a day game I know these one o00 Saturday games are for the birds um but also um we're hopeful to have uh Cole Jackson back on the show later this week I've messaged with him it looks like we have a day set in stone but um yeah so that's it for us tonight and look forward to talking to you guys later on and uh yeah we'll we'll see you soon see you