e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e all [Music] are we live here with the new station my fellow Americans all right ladies and gentlemen welcome to the pro play we're live in Cedar Rapids Iowa I'm your special guest Nate Murphy to my right I have my co-anchor is my Al ego yes oh you're not Mr Mr yire Mr yire billionaire yep do you guys my fellow billionaire today you used to seeing me I'm here every week are we going clockwise yeah I'm an even specialer guest Bobby a that the truth he comes once in a while you see us all you seen us all I'm all kinds of special I'm Andrew but uh tonight I'm a silly man wearing a silly hat because silly things are going to happen true so hand me the uh smelling salts I think we should do it around right now right we're gonna need it for tonight okay stay it's starting it's starting though right now well we're officially in that wasn't good enough I know he's he's he's got so the container's not even it's not bad for it 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this you gotta go like this even that bad no it's weared out we got it yeah I got the ini SC out thing they're taking the stage and we're taking rips off the so this is where this where it comes into play W that [ __ ] oh my God oh my ited it oh okay are you immune to it maybe I live with two cats I could be it's like chunking up in there good yeah you did get I got my head walk down on stage yet what the [ __ ] oh that's too deep that's too deep let's do oh here they are go for a fist Good Luck Good Luck he's been working on that I think he pul Bob in i a bob yeah P okay I want to begin issue that where's your American flag pin can we turn yeah yeah hear this oh my god dude you don't have an American flag pin for this Andrew can you turn it up Tad my pride is on the inside my you believe Americans are better off than they were four years ago so I was raised as a middle class kid and I am actually the only person on this stage who has a plan that is about lifting up the middle class and working people America I believe in the Ambitions the aspirations the dreams of the American people and that is why I imagine and have actually a plan to build what I call an opportunity economy because here's the thing we know that we have a a shortage of of homes and housing and the cost of housing is too expensive for far too many people we know that young families need support to raise their children and I intend on extending a tax cut for those families of $66,000 which is the largest child tax credit that we have given in a long time so that those young families can afford to buy a crib buy a car seat buy clothes for their children my passion one of them is small businesses I was actually my mother raised my sister and me but there was a woman who helped raise us we call her our second mother she was a small business owner I love our small businesses my plan is to give a $50,000 tax deduction to start small businesses knowing they are part of the backbone of America's economy my opponent on the other hand his plan is to do what he has done before which is to provide a tax cut for billionaires and big corporations which will result in trillion doll to America's deficit my opponent would be a with your oh we don't have chat open economists have said that we got we got for middle class families in about $4,000 more a year because of his policies and his ideas about what should be the backs of middle class people paying for tax cuts for billionaires president Trump I'll give you two minutes first of all I have no sales tax that's an incorrect statement she knows that uh we're doing tariffs on other countries other countries are going to finally after 75 years pay us back for all that we've done for the world the the the Tariff will be substantial in some cases I took in billions and billions of dollars as you know from China in fact they never took the Tariff off because it was so much money they can't it would totally destroy everything that they've set out to do they're taking in billions of dollars from China and other places they've left the tariffs on when I had it I had tariffs and yet I had no inflation uh look we've had a terrible economy because inflation has which is really known as a country Buster it breaks up countries we have inflation like very few people have ever seen before probably the worst in our nation's history we were at 21% but that's being generous because many things are 50 60 70 and 80% higher than they were just a few years ago this has been a disaster for people for the middle class but for every class on top of that we have millions of people pouring into our country from prisons and jails from mental institutions and insane asylums they're coming in heard occupied right now by African-Americans and Hispanics and also unions unions are going to be affected very soon and you see what's happening you see what's happening with towns throughout the United States you look at Springfield Ohio you look at Aurora in Colorado they are taking over the towns they're taking over buildings they're going in violently these are the people that she and Biden led into our country and they're destroying our country they're dangerous they're at the highest level of criminality and we have to get them out we have to get them out fast I created one of the greatest economies in the history of our country I'll do it again and even better we are going to get to immigration and border security during this debate but uh I would like to let vice president Harris respond on the economy here well I would love to let's talk about what Donald Trump left us Donald Trump left us the worst unemployment since the Great depression Donald Trump left us the worst Public Health epidemic in a century Donald Trump left us the worst attack on our democracy since the Civil War that's definitely and what we have done is clean up Donald Trump's mess what we have done and what I intend to do is build on what we know are the aspirations and the hopes of the American people but I'm going to tell youall in this debate tonight you're going to hear from the same old Ty Playbook a bunch of Lies Grievances and name calling what you're going to hear tonight is a detailed and dangerous Plan called project 2025 that the former president intends on implementing if he were elected to again I believe very strongly that the American people want a president who understands the importance of bringing us together know we have so much more in common than what separates us and I pledge to you to be a president for All America president Trump that's out there well yeah he's gonna say um he's not gonna do Implement 25 right which she's a straight liar BR I hope I hope he says that but I hope he like throws in a little wink how many times is he I'm not going to do it why does keep going they even asked him on Ro that he wasn't going to touch and he said it's a great thing and it's a terrible completely sending it it's a great thing and a terrible thing okay project 202 Ecom stock market was higher than it was before the P came it nobody's ever seen anything like it we made ventilators for the entire world we got gowns we got masks we did things that nobody thought possible and people give me credit for rebuilding the military they give me credit for a lot of things but not enough credit for the great job we did with the pandemic but the only jobs they got were bounceback jobs these were jobs bounce back and it bounced back and it went to their benefit but I was the one that created them they know it and so does everybody else vice president Harris I'll WR so how do you responses to the yet Donald Trump has no plan for you and when you look at his economic plan it's all about tax breaks for the richest people I am offering what I describe as an opportunity economy and the best economists in our country if not the world have reviewed our relative plans for the future of America what Goldman sax has said is that Donald Trump's plan would make the economy worse mine would strengthen the economy what the Wharton School has said is Donald Trump's plan would actually explode the deficit 16 Nobel laurates have described his economic plan as something that would increase inflation and by the middle of next year would invite a recession you just have to look at where we are and where we stand on the issues and I'd invite you to know that Donald Trump actually has no plan for you because he is more interested in defending himself than he is in looking out for you m problem I went to the wart scho of Finance many of those professors the top professors think my plan is a brilliant plan it's a great plan it's a plan that's going to bring up our our worth our value as a country it's going to make people want to be able to go and work and uh create jobs and create a lot of good solid money for our for our country and just to finish off uh she doesn't have a plan she copied Biden's plan and it's like four sentences like Run Spot Run four sentences lower taxes she doesn't have a plan take a look at her plan she doesn't have a plan take a look at her plan she doesn't have a plan did Dr literally just said you don't have a no you don't have a essentially a national sales tax your proposal calls for tariffs as you pointed out here on Foreign imports across the board you recently said that you might double your plan imposing tariffs up to 20% on Goods coming into this country as you know many economists say that with tariffs at that level costs are then passed on to the consumer vice president Harris has argued it'll mean higher prices on gas food clothing medication arguing it costs the typical family nearly $44,000 a year do you believe Americans can afford higher prices because of tariffs they're not going to have higher prices what's going to have and who's going to have higher prices is China and all of the countries that have been ripping us off for years I charge I was the only president ever China was paying us hundreds of billions of dollars and so were other countries and you know if she doesn't like them they should have gone out and they should have immediately cut the tariffs but those tariffs are there three and a half years now under their Administration we are going to take in billions of dollars hundreds of billions of dollars I had no inflation virtually no inflation they had the highest inflation perhaps in the history of our country because I've never seen a worse period of time people can't go out and buy cereal or bacon or eggs or anything else these the people of our country are absolutely dying with what they've done they've destroyed the economy and all you have to do is look at a poll the poll say say 80 and 85 and even 90% that the Trump economy was great that their economy was terrible vice president Harris I do want to ask for your response you what the president said there because the Biden Administration did keep a number of the Trump tariffs in place so how do you respond you ask P people about is the world get 85% def one of the highest we've ever seen in the history of America he invited trade Wars you want to talk about his deal with China what he ended up doing Donald Trum he ended uping American chips to China to help them a shot every time Trump uses ative to describe his last termy the audio the United States can he hear us talking or is it necessary for us to pause in order for us for him to hear us talk at all yeah I'm worried that they're not catching anything especially like when you two like onu focusing on what we need to do to support America's work we don't endd maybe she talking about she doesn't usually attack people when we know that she was respons are people arguing inat go I that's always the right tell you why you're wrong I actually put it in chat but U there's a really good uh about a 30 minute video uh by uh a channel called democracy Now where they go behind the scenes and literally just talk to the guy and the the guy's the one of the leaders of this product 2025 and just goes on and on about how you can get connected with the right people to get Trump's to get this plan out yeah it's really really interesting and like just super casual and you just kind of lays out everybody knows she's a Marxist her father's Marist Professor known to be um getting some good pauses that uh and when you look at what's it what's the word to to flattery like he loves flattery flatter flattery so if you go in there and you just tell Trump how good he looks or how great he is you you can basically get anything from the guy that's what that's what the leaders did that's what some of these um foreign adversaries were doing went they talked them up he got his little photo up with Kim John Moon then he leaves and they start testing Rockets again nothing changes worried that testing not using I'm afraid that might happen if Rockets yeah couldn't that happen to a woman say what couldn't that happen to a woman just as easy tell her that she's beautiful give give her a shiny is going to fall for that I mean I could get her I could get her a that hair's died look at those pearls Bro Look at that diamond I could give her GL though right oh okay now it's not going to work we lost dang way to go Disney plus pro quality it's good thing we got the backup meeting with I love your earrings oh thank you you know what [ __ ] you God damn it pretty ridiculous [ __ ] him might have been why it was forcing you to unpause cuz it's like hey dude why you [ __ ] go too deep we can't let you watch anymore they're catching on you know you got to watch this is I think one of are just moments away from taking the stage in this unprecedented race for president get back where we were they're eating the pets of the people this as far as rally concerned as far as got back up guess what he's talking about5 years I thought May talking about your guy I don't know and the Tariff will be Su some I took in billions and billions of dollars as you know from China in fact they never took the tar it's another lie go have been a leader on ivfs put the m and the rice when they got a very negative decision on IVF from the Alabama courts I saw the people of Alabama and the legislature two days later voted it in I've been a leader on it they know that and everybody else knows it I have been a leader on fertilization IVF and the other thing they you should ask will she allow abortion in eth month 9th month sth month come on okay would you do that why don't you ask me that question why don't you the because under roie way you could do abortions in the seventh month the eighth month the ninth month probably after just look govern former governor of Virginia the governor of Virginia said we put the baby aside and then we deter he's making claim that she would accept abortion after know of migration from Central America we know that illegal water Crossings reached a record restrictions we know com only but my question to you tonight is why did the administration wait until 6 months before the election to act and would you have done anything differently from President Biden so I'm the only person on this [Music] stage trafficking of guns drugs and human beings and let me say that the United States Congress including some of the most conservative members of the United States Senate came up with a border security bill which I supported and that bill would have put 1,500 more border agents On the Border to help those folks who are working there right now over time trying to do their job it would have allowed us to stem the flow of fentol coming into the United States I know there are so many families watching tonight who have been personally affected by The Surge of fentol in our country that bill would have put more resources to allow us to prosecute transnational criminal organizations for trafficking in guns drugs and human beings but you know what happened to that bill Donald Trump got on the phone called up some folks in Congress and said kill the bill and you know why because he'd prefer to run on a problem instead of fixing a problem yes ma'am and understand this comes at a time where the people of our country actually need a leader who engages in Solutions who actually addresses the problems at hand but what we have in the former president is someone who would prefer to run a problem instead of fixing a problem and I'll tell you something he's going to talk about immigration a lot tonight even when it's not the subject that is being raised and I'm going to actually do something really unusual and I'm going to invite you to attend one of Donald Trump's rallies because it's a really interesting thing to watch you will see during the course of his rallies he talks about FAL characters like Hannibal Lecter he will talk about windmills cause cancer and what you will also notice is that people start leaving his rallies early out of exhaustion and boredom and I will tell you the one thing you will not hear him talk about is you you will not he talk about your needs your dreams and your and your des and I'll tell you I believe you deserve a president who actually puts you first and I pledge to you that I will vice president Harris thank you president Trump on that point I want let me just ask though why did you try to kill that bill and successfully so that would have put thousands of additional agents and officers on the board and the last fact check one was Harris's crack that Trump helped kill bipartisan border security yes yeah that's that abely true very obvious yeah yeah I think um some Congress Congress people actually in interviews said something like oh I was on the phone with President Trump or something like that I think that's before that Harris Harris exaggerated on the unemployment rate when Biden took office this is exaggerated the unemployment rate spiked to a postr depression record of 14.8 in April 20120 as the pandemic began to rage Trump was in office then but he didn't leave Biden or Harris with the post depression record un rate by December 2020 the unemployment rate had fallen back to 6.4% which was high for recent history but well below numerous spikes during sessions us to the rallies she said people start leaving people don't go to her rallies there's no reason to go and the people that do go she's busing them in and paying them to be there and then showing them in a different light so she can't talk about that people don't leave my rallies we have the biggest rallies the most incredible rallies your that's because people want to take country back our country is being lost the focus group make at least two mes within just to go into another subject what they have done to our country by allowing these millions and millions of people to come into our country and look at what's happening to the towns all over the United States and a lot of towns don't want to talk not going to be Aurora or Springfield a lot of towns don't want to talk about it because are so embarrassed by it in Springfield they're eating the dogs the people that they're eating cats they eating they're eating the pets of the people that live there and this is what's happening in our country as far as Ries are concerned as far as the reason they go is they like what I say they want to bring our country back they want to make America great very simple phrase make America they were if she becomes president this country doesn't have a chance of success not only success May 20,000 justy Springfield ohioic claimed or abused by individuals let me just say here this is people on television say my dog was taken and food so maybe he said that and maybe that's a good thing to say for a city manager I'm not taking this from T people dog was eaten by the people that went there I'll let you respond to the rest of what you've heard you talk about extreme um you know why in this election I actually have the endorsement of Republicans who have formerly worked with President Bush Mitt Romney and John McCain including the endorsement former Vice President Dick CH I see if you want to really know the inside track on who the former president is if he didn't make it clear just ask people who have worked with him his former Chief of Staff of fourstar general has said he has contemp the Constitution of the United States his former National Security advisor said he dangerous and unfit his former Secretary of Defense has said the nation never survive said's Trum and when we listen to this kind of rhetoric when the issues that affect the American people are not being addressed I think the choice is clear in this direction president Trump I'll give you a quick minute to respond uh thank you because mention the dog I hear that see I'm a different kind of a person most of those people not so graciously they did bad things or bad job I fired them they never fired one person they didn't fire anybody having to do with Afghanistan and the Taliban and the 13 people how many of her vice presidents she tried to kill killed viciously and violently killed and I got to know the parents and the family they didn't fire they should have fired all those generals all those top people because that was one of the most incompetently handled situations Hasen a bad job I and you take a guy like esper he was no good I fired him so he writes a book another one writes a book because with me they can write books with nobody else can they but they have done such a poor job and they never fire anybody look at the economy look look at the inflation they didn't fire any of their Economist they have the same people that's a good way not to have books written about you but just to finish I got more votes than any Republican in history by far in fact I got more votes than any president sitting president in history by far let me continue on immigration it was what you wanted to talk about earlier so let's get back to your deportation uh the vice president has reacted to domes Deport operation in the history of our country you say you would use the na guard you say you also said you would use local police how would you Deport 11 million undocumented immigrants I know you you believe that number is much higher take us through this what does this look like will authorities be going door to door in this country yeah it is much higher because of them they allowed criminals many many millions of criminals they allowed terrorists they allowed Common Street criminals they allowed people to come in to offend him anymore he's out of the United States and told Venezuela crime the world is way down you know why because they're taking their criminals off the street all time toti put into our country she gets hit from will be one of the greatest mistakes in history for them to allow I think they probably did it because they think they're going to get votes but it's not worth it because destroying the fabric of our country by what they've done there's never been anything done like this at all they've destroyed the fabric of our country millions of people let in and all over the world is down all over the world except here here is up and through the roof despite their fraudulent statements that they made crime in this country is through the roof and we have a new form of crime it's called migrant crime and it's happening at levels that nobody thought possible president Trump as you know the FBI says oh all violent crime is actually coming down in this country but excuse me the FBI defra they were defrauding statements they they didn't include the worst cities they didn't include the cities with the worst crime it was a a fraud just like their number of 88,000 job that they said they created turned out to be a fraud president Trump thank you I'll let you respond by President Harris well I think this is so rich coming from someone who has remind you of the crazy guy before National securitys Economic crimes election interference has been found liable for sexual assault and his next big court appearance is in November at his own criminal sentencing and let's be clear where each person stands on the issue of what is important about respect for the rule of law and respect for law enforcement the former vice president called for defunding federal law enforcement 45,000 agents get this on the day after he was arraigned on 34 felony counts so let's talk about what is important in this race it is important that we move forward that we turn the page on this same old tired rhetoric and address the needs of the American people address what we need to do about the housing shortage which I have a plan for address what we must do to support our small businesses address Bringing Down the price of grocery but frankly the American people are exhausted with this same old Tire Playbook vice president Harris thank you two fact checks every one of those cases was started by them against their political opponent and one is yes Trump talked about terminating in the Constitution he tried to back down those words later at one point and then there's a KL Harris claim which is turns out to be true but I wanted to add a caveat to this one so Trump left one of the highest trade deficits in US history uh this is accurate the country's trade deficit reached his high highest level since 2008 under Trump who had promised to reduce it during his 2016 campaign I'm pretty sure or no no it wasn't trade deficit never mind it was um National national deficit was higher under Biden than Trump right they both like Trump produced the highest deficit in US history and then Biden immediately produced one that was higher afterwards yes I'm aware of that but it was I just I like their percentage growth or whatever that like because the deficit is growing [ __ ] basically either way yeah like it's more like who's is growing faster under their presidency or not but going up [ __ ] under everybody's funny oops well we do want that so these are the year one year do we get a cognitive evaluation on all candidates Rowan says I think I uh what did you guys think about the Supreme Court um thing that Biden tried to present like a code of ethics and then imposing ter I mean think better than nothing I mean but I I don't know if it's going to mean that all that much honestly that's an easy I think a code of ethics should be that should be for all why is it only applying toe I I think it's very clear that across the board like our politicians could use some slightly higher standards yeah there is maybe we should hold you guys to a little bit more expectation like just a little bit better I don't know where it's but I I heard there was a bill also to um uh stop uh stop elected officials from Trading stocks that would be great you that will never happen who's gonna vote for that one scroll back up scr no yeah they'll never they'll never pass that I got to look that up the ethics thing the the no trading stock trading stocks oh says boring them for trading stock like [ __ ] no they won't pass that no and Pelosi unfortunately is a scapegoat for that one but uh it it does something does the the problem it it it's just weird in between where and I'm going to sound like a like a looney here defending defending them um they it the they should be able to trade in stock like everybody else but the problem is that they have a peak behind the curtain right they sure do so it would have to be like specified to whatever law like they can trade like let's say they can trade in banking but assuming they're not passing any sort of law like but and then it just becomes way too I ethically they they just sh there's no [ __ ] reason the only reason is for them to be able to [ __ ] get rich off of their own policies and their own policies it doesn't to be their own right right there's no there's no good reason for it they don't I mean nobody needs to worry about like these poor [ __ ] congressmen they can't make enough money yeah what do they get paid now like 200k a year or something like that yeah which um is enough to live on off of a Shir it's not like amazing like they're not that's not enough but they all do fine like they can write books they can do speaking Deals they all have other means of income none of them are poor Michael says I thought insider trading was part of being in the government yeah basically yeah but would it be better if it wasn't all right uh good luck with changing that yeah not going to happen go when both sides are benefiting from it who who's on your side sure yeah they're both like well let's come on now and I will the rest of decision came Rec from the Supreme Court but those are cases it's called weaponization never happened in this country they weaponized the justice department every one of those cases was involved with the doj from Atlanta and fny Willis to to the uh Attorney General of New York and the da of New York every one of those cases and then they say oh he was he's a criminal they're the ones made them go after me by the way Joe Biden was found essentially guilty on the documents case and what happened in my documents case they said that's the toughest of all a complete and total Victory two months ago it was thrown out it's weaponization and they used it and it's never happened in this country they used it to try and win an election their fake cases president Trump thank you for really quick response president Harris on this notion of weaponization of the justice department well let's um in the document's case specifically Joe Biden's team cooperated with DAR with with the FBI and all of documents gave back what they what they had Trump moved documents around lied about having them and then showed them off in front of people who had no clearance whatsoever after um and even admittedly says it in the in the audio recording but he's C like red-handed so would you like to hear the P fact for that one special counselor Robert H found evidence that Biden mishandled classified documents but he didn't pursue criminal charges saying evidence did not establish Biden's guilt Beyond A Reasonable Doubt and that Biden would be sympathetic to a jury the special Council said sorry go said the case against Trump is more serious than Biden's because Biden cooperated with the investigation correct Trump refused to turn over documents and prosecutors say he enlisted other people to destroy evidence and lie about it right and the in the part where he says that he would be sympathetic to a jury is like um the way that these uh inves a are conducted is you have like the matter of facts what they find and then what he has an opinion on afterward so Rob what's his name Robert her is that is that his full name Robert her is a trump appointee so he's gonna take a chance to [ __ ] say some stuff about negative about Joe Biden so they're like hey good job Robert you did what you needed to do extreme and understand the context in which this election in 2024 is taking place the United States Supreme Court recently ruled that the former president president would essentially be immune from any misconduct if he were to enter the White House again understand this is someone who has openly said he would terminate I'm quoting terminate the Constitution of the United States that he would weaponize the Department of Justice against his political enemies someone who has openly expressed disdain for members of our military understand what it would mean if Donald Trump were back in White House with no guard rails because certainly we know now the court won't stop him we know JD Vance is not going to stop him it's up to the American people stop thank you la vice president haris in your last this is the one that weaponized not me she weaponized I probably took a bullet to the head because of the things that they say about me they talk about democracy I'm a threat to democracy they're the threat to Dem a fake Russia Russia Russia investigation that went nowhere we have a lot to get to Lindsay vice president Harrison your last run for president you said you wanted to ban fracking now you don't you wanted mandatory government buyback programs for assault weapons now your campaign says you don't you supported decriminalizing border crossings now you're taking a harder line I know you say that your values have not changed so then why have so many of your policy positions changed so my values have not changed and I'm going to discuss made made very c0 not not Bing as Vice pres United States in fact I was the tiing V open new leases for way my position is that we have got to invest in diverse sources of energy so we reduce our Reliance on foreign oil we have had the largest increase in domestic oil production in history because of an approach that recognizes that we cannot over rely on foreign oil as it relates to my values let me tell you I grew up a middle class kid raised by a hardworking mother who worked and saved and was able to buy our first one when I was a teenager the values I bring to the importance of home ownership knowing not everybody 400 million on a silver platter and then file bankruptcy six times is a value that I bring to my work to say we are going to work with the private sector and home builders to increase 3 million homes increase by 3 million homes by the end of my first term my work that is related to having friend when I was in high school sexed and my focus then on protecting women and children is based on a value that is deeply grounded in the import standing up for those who are most vulnerable my work that is about protecting Social Security and Medicare is based on longstanding work that I have done protecting seniors from scams my values have not changed and what is important is that there is a president who actually brings values and a perspective that is about lifting people up and not beating people down and name calling the true measure of of the leader is the leader who actually understands the strength is not in beating people down it's in lifting people up I intend to be that president president Trump first of all was he given 400 million was queens and father I learned a lot from but I was given a fraction of that tiny fraction and I built it into many many billions of dollars many many billions and when people see it they are even surprised not years the police she's been against forever she gave all that stuff up very wrongly very horribly and everybody's laughing at it okay they're all laughing at it she gave up at least 12 and probably 14 or 15 different policies like f grp you think Trump did like for it doesn't appear that he did it dude do you think his team like tried like so Trump you like I don't want to like talk about the debate at all what are they saying on Fox News let's look at it because she's clearly like worked on her speaking and everything it's yeah I will say um for her sake B Biden doing so poorly in the first one is actually a huge boom to her cuz it's just like night in [ __ ] day of like performance yeah it's it's kind of set the bar for right and Trump's been the constant yeah yeah very well she did have like a he's not a [ __ ] I don't think but do that yeah he's not as flagrant [ __ ] I wonder I wonder if she'll turn some sedatives into his where he's like okay I can I can I can raise up the energy level because she's matching it whereas if he did to Biden it looks like he's beating up an old man to get him out of jail she did things that nobody would ever think of now she wants to do transgender operations on illegal aliens that are in prison this is a radical liberal that would do this she wants to confiscate you guns and she will never allow fracking in Pennsylvania fake news won the election saying I'm like that's a headline important in my opinion so I got the oil business going like nobody has ever done before they took they got started getting rid of it and the prices were going up the roof they immediately let these guys go to where they were I would have been five times four times five times higher because you're talking about three and a half years ago they got it up to where I was because they had no choice because the prices of [Music] I wanted list I'm blame blaming it on Fox News because I tried to go to their site and see if I could find something that they were the street yeah because they got a million goddamn ads cuz they they don't have money they don't have any money okay they need adud this look after that election they'll go back to destroying our country and will be dead fil fuel will be dead we'll go back to that I underestimated Fox because I thought they were all about cathet gold bars and theyve really up their game cor of our democracy you know they're aiming for yeah they are really stepping up they need to feel the young Motors yeah so the image there that's on Andrew's computer is like a [ __ ] hentai or sexy anime girl sexy anime e girl just oo wooing it you scen foite I need uh I need to save that got a fer going on yeah okay yeah just screenshot that a moment of Crisis Mr President on January 6th you told your supporters to March to the capital you said you would be right there with them the country and the world saw what played out of the capital that day the officers coming under attack AIDS in the west wings say you watched it unfold on television off the Oval Office you did send out tweets but it was more than two hours before you sent out that video message uh telling your supporters to go home is there anything you regret about what you did on that day you just said is covered peacefully and patriotically I said during my speech not later on pause that this I need to patriotically and nobody on the other side was killed Ashley babbit was shot by an out of control police officer that should have never ever shot her it's a disgrace but we didn't do this group of people that have been treated so badly I ask what about all the people that are pouring into our country and killing people that she allowed to pour in she was the Bazar remember that she was the bordar she doesn't want to be called the bordar because she's embarrassed by the bord fact she said at the beginning well I'm surprised you're not talking about the bu yet that's because she knows what a bad job they've done what about those people what what are they going to be prosecuted one of these people from countries all over the world not just South America they're coming in from all over D literally gave up unless you r one a percentage of the city of Seattle when are those people going to be prosecuted but let me just ask you might ask her that question watching unfold on tevion it's a very simple question anybody out there that follows RPG Rowan you know Shelby no K you were there Michael you better uh this R since Fox News is running com ads today by the way bringing of January 6 is a good move let's see the fact check on Trump's section why is he talking about the Border what we're all is there anything you reget about what you did on that day the cap I had nothing to do with that other than they asked me to make a spee up for a speech I said I think it's going to be big well it was it was the symbolon see you I said you know they were trying to show what was already happen it was almost like a recreation of it like hey you're not pay over here weing over here recre for you Rea basically reenactment P those people out prisons they put a bunch of guns happened if Nancy Pelosi and the mayor of Washington did their jobs I wasn't responsible for security Nancy Pelosi was responsible didn't job the question was about you as president not but I do want vice president to respond here I was at the capital on January 6th I was the vice president elect I was also an acting Senator I was there and on that day the president of the United States incited a violent mob to attack our nation's capital to desecrate our nation's capital on that day 140 law enforcement officers were injured and some died and and understand the former president has been indicted and impeached for exactly that reason but this is not an isolated situation let's remember Charlottesville where there was a mob of people carrying tiki torches spewing anti-semitic hate and what did the president then at the time say there were fine people on each side let's remember that when it came to the problem on a little bit there the president said the stand back looking at the when he does so for everyone watching who remembers what January 6 I say we don't have to go back let's not go back we're not going back it's time to turn the page and if that was a bridge too far for you well there is a place in our campaign for you to stand for country to stand for our Dem stand for rule of law and to end the chaos CAU that that one approach that is about attacking the foundations of our democracy because you don't like the outcome your mommy this election there will be a blood a liar if this and the outcome of this election liing Mommy we'll have the worst Nation look at the nation now we'll have it it be even worse for the future and not go backwards to the past let me just follow up here it was a different term and it was a term that related to energy because they have destroyed our energy business that was where bloodbath was also on Charlottesville that story has been Laura Jess all of these people they covered it missing context that is correct because that one was specifically related China and tariffs and stuff like that the other one sorry what about well it was debunked in almost every newspaper but they still bring it up just like they bring 2025 up they bring all of this stuff up I ask you this you talk about the capital why are we allowing these millions of people to come through on the southern border how come she's not doing anything and I'll tell you what I would do and I would be very proud to I would say we would both leave this debate right now I'd like to see her go down to Washington DC during this debate because we're wasting a lot of time go down to because she's been so bad it's so ridiculous go down to Washington DC and let her sign a bill to close up the Border because they have the right to do it they don't need bills they have the right to do it the president of the United States you get out of bed wake them up at 4:00 in the afternoon you'll say come on come on down to the office let's sign a bill If he if he signs a bill that the border is closed all he has to do is say it to the border patrol who are phenomenal if they do that the border is closed those people are killing many people unlike j6 we talked immigration here tonight I do want to focus on this next issue to both of you because it really brings us this into Focus Truth uh in these times that we're living in uh Mr President for three and a half years after you lost the 2020 election you repeatedly falsely claim that you won many times say you won in a landslide in the past couple of weeks leading up to this debate uh you have said quote you lost by a whisker that you quote didn't quite make it that you came up a little bit short are you now acknowledging that you lost in I don't acknowled it at all I said that sarcastically you know that we lost by a whisker that was said sarcastically look there's so much proof all you have to do is look at it and they should have sent it back to the legislatures for approval I got almost 75 million votes the most votes any sitting president is ever gotten I was told if I got 63 which was what I got in 2016 you can't be beaten the election people should never be thinking about an election is fraudulent we need two things we need walls we need and we have to have it we have to have borders and we have to have good elections our elections are bad and a lot of these illegal immigrants coming in they're trying to get them to vote they can't even speak English they don't even know what country they're in practically and these people are trying to get them to vote and that's why they're allowing them to come into our country I did watch all of these pieces of video detect the sarcasm lost by whisker we didn't quite make it and we should just point out you know this you and your allies what was that tell you I said if you would have said instead of saying they don't know what country they're in if he was like they don't know what state they're in it would have came off a little better cases many judges judge looked at it they said we didn't have standing that's the other thing they said we didn't have standing a technicality can you imagine a system where a person in an election doesn't have standing the president of the United States doesn't have standing that's how we lost if you look at the facts and I'd love to have you you'll do a special on it I'll show you Georgia and I'll show you Wisconsin and I'll show you Pennsylvania and I'll show you we have so many facts and statistics but you know what that doesn't matter because we have to solve the problem that we have right now that's old news and the problem that we have right now is we have a nation in Decline and they have put it into decline we have a nation that is dying David Mr President thank you vice president Harris you heard the president there tonight he said he didn't say that he lost whisker so he stilles he did not lose by but I do want to ask you about something that come up in the last president Trump about this upcoming election just weeks away he said when I win those people and official almost to cost more perc like it it's I can't remember percentage gain of GDP yeah it's it's going to exceed out it I I mean I don't sit I don't I don't know much about macroeconomics on a global scale I don't think anybody in this room really does I I know I understand that debt is pretty SC it it I don't remember exactly why but it's it's lit it's the national debt the the percentage growth of national debt cannot go over the percentage GDP yeah that's that's like the Doom that's pretty much the Doomsday situation and I don't remember exactly what it is but when I researched it a lot like this was like three years ago it that was pretty sound so um to for context uh he's talking about in um how majority of his his trials uh investigating electron fraud were dismissed on standing dismiss on standing is basic basically means like you don't have you're either asking for too much in your suit um uh like you can't you can't um you're going fore murder versus manslaughter no it you can't like demonstrate the hurt really I mean I'll read the definition yeah okay just misunderstanding legal concept that involves dismissing a case because the lack of standing to sue um the Court decides you don't have the right to file a lawsuit dismisses the case lack of standing disor just in a case with prejudice based on standing defend it's like it would be like if I um sued you in small claims court or something like that or I Su let's let's say I sued you for like a million dollars and the reason I sued you is is because like I don't know you uh broke your laptop yeah yeah yeah you know something outrageous um and one of one of the cases in particular Texas brought a suit to it was Michigan or or one or one of the other states and they just the the court the federal court automatically just dismissed it like because uh states are the ones who handle their elections Texas can't bring a lawsuit on another state on how they handle their election each state handles their election um independently independently yes that's the whole point so um I was just the debt Clock since we were just talking about it and uh the US federal debt to GDP ratio in 2000 was 56.2 7% and right now it is at the end of the fiscal year so debt over GDP yep and it ends up being a 123% currently because our current federal GDP is uh what's what's the name of that website the the US de clock us yep all right let's continue yeah which will include long-term prison sentences one of your campaign's top lawyers responded saying we won't let Donald Trump intimidate us we won't let him suppress the vote is that what you believe he's trying to do here Donald Trump was fired by 81 million people so let's be clear about that and clearly he is having a very difficult time processing that but we cannot afford to have a president of the United States who attempts as he did in the past to upend the will of the voters in a free and fair election and I'm going to tell you that I I have traveled the world as vice president United States and world leaders are laughing at Donald Trump I have talked with military leaders some of whom work with you and they say you're a disgrace and when you then talk in this way in a presidential debate and deny what over and over again are court cases you have lost because you did in fact lose that election it leads one to believe that perhaps we do not have in the candidate to my right the temperament or or the ability to not be confused about fact that's deeply troubling and the American people deserve better I'll give you one minute to respond Mr President let me just tell about world leaders Victor Orban one of the most respected men they call him a strong man he's a she's a SM they said why is the whole world blowing up three years ago it wasn't why is it blowing up he said because you need Trump back as president they were afraid of him China was afraid and I don't like to use the word afraid but I'm just quoting him China was afraid of him North Korea was afraid of him look at what's going on with North Korea by the way he said Russia was afraid of him I ended the nordstream 2 Pipeline and Biden put it back on day one but he ended the XL Pipeline the XL pipeline in our country he ended that but he let the Russians build a pipeline going all over Europe and heading into Germany the biggest pipeline in the world look Victor Orban said it he said yes fat fact check on that one um that more than 90% of the ner stream 2 was built under Trump's watch trp impos sanctions in December 2019 on the subc pipeline that carries natural gas from r to Germany but experts say that the sanctions did not stop the project they only slowed is completion so that the most respected most feared person is Donald Trump we had no problems when Trump was president but when this weak pathetic man that you saw at a debate just a few months ago that if he weren't in that debate he'd be running on setad of her you got no votes he got 14 million votes what you did you talk about a threat to democracy he got 14 million votes and they threw him out of office and you know what I'll give you a little secret he hates her he can't stand her talk to him they out she got zero votes and when she ran she was the first one F and now she's running I don't understand but turning the Israel you said you added quote it matters how saying International humanitarian La must be respected Israel must do more to protect innocent civilians you said that nans are dead nearly 100 host just last week prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu said there's not a deal in the president has not been able to break through the stalemate how would you do it well let's understand how we got here on October 7 Hamas a terrorist organization slaughtered 1200 Israelis many of them young people who were simply attending a concert women were horribly raped and so absolutely I said then I say now Israel has a right to defend itself we would and how it does so matters because it is also true far too many innocent Palestinians have been killed children mothers what we know is that this war must end innocent it must when end immediately and the way it will end is we need a ceasefire deal and we need the hostages out and so we will continue to work around the clock on that work around the clock also understanding that we must chart a course for a two-state solution and in that solution there must be security for the Israeli people and Israel and in equal measure for the Palestinians but the one thing I will assure you always I will always give Israel the ability to defend itself in particular as it rates to as it relates to Iran and any threat that Iran and its proxies pose to Israel but we must have a two-state solution where we can rebuild Gaza where the Palestinians have security self-determination and the dignity they so rightly deserve president Trump how would you negotiate with Netanyahu and also Hamas in order to get the hostages out and prti in Gaza if I were president it would have never started if I were president Russia would have never ever I know Putin very well he would have never and there was no threat of it either by the way for four years got into Ukraine and kill millions of people when you add it up far worse than people understand what's going on over there but when she mentions about Israel all of a sudden she hates Israel she wouldn't even meet with netan Yahoo when he went to Congress to make a very important speech she refused to be there she was in sari party of hers she want to go to the sari party they all [ __ ] love Israel she hates Israel if she's president I believe that Israel will not exist within 2 years from now and I've been pretty good at predictions I hope I'm wrong about that one she hates Israel at the same time in her own way she hates the Arab population because the whole place is going to get blown up Arabs Jewish people Israel Israel will be gone it would have never happened Iran was broke under Donald Trump now Iran has $300 billion because they took off all the sanctions that I had Iran had no money for Hamas or Hezbollah or any of the 28 different uh spheres of Terror and they are spheres of Terror horrible Terror they had no money all that was actually him saying that he left and broke was actually largely accurate their foreign currency Reserve Reserve fell from 128 billion in 2015 to 15 billion in 2019 which represents a dramatic decline dramatic decline in a short amount of time this decline is wiely Le to be consequential consequence of the Titan us sanctions under Trump and has not reversed to any significant degree since oh reversed them what's the problem it hasn't been reversed oh yeah I don't know what the problem is it was a big story and you know it you covered it very well actually they had no money for Terror they were broke now they're a rich nation and now what they're doing is they're spreading that money around look at what's happening with the hoties and Yemen look at what's going on in the Middle East this would have never happened I will get that s L and fast and I'll get the war with Ukraine and Russia ended if I'm president-elect I'll get it done before even becoming president vice president Harris he says you hate Israel that's absolutely not true I have my entire career and life supported Israel and the Israeli people he knows that he's trying to again divide and and distract from the reality which is it is very well known that Donald Trump is weak and wrong on National Security and foreign policy it is well known that he admires dictators wants to be a dictator on day one according to himself it is well known that he said of Putin that he can do whatever the hell he wants and go into Ukraine it is well known that he said when Russia went into Ukraine it was brilliant it is well known he exchanged love letters with Kim Jong love letters absolutely well known Ro for you to be present again because they're so clear they can manipulate you with flattery and favors and that is why so many military leaders who you have worked with have told me you are a disgrace that is why we understand that we have to have a president who is not consistently weak and wrong on National Security including the importance of upholding and respecting in highest regard our military vice president Harris thank you they're the ones and she's the one that caused it that's weak on National Security by allowing Every Nation last month for the year 168 different countries sending people into our country their crime weights are way down Putin inors her last week said I hope she wins and I think he meant it I because what he's gotten away with is absolutely incredible it wouldn't have happened with me the leaders of other countries think that they're weak and incompetent and they are they're grossly incompetent and I just ask one question why does Biden go in and kill the Keystone Pipeline and approve the single biggest deal that Russia's ever made nordstream 2 the biggest pipeline anywhere in the world going to Germany and all over Europe because they're weak and they're ineffective and Biden by the way a lot of money thank you we have a lot of issues to get to we'll be right back with much more of this historic ABC News presidential debate from the national Constitution Center right here in Philadelphia how many is there two two how far behind are not too far we get CAU up put on 1.5 time speed hey Bobby could you hand me one of those um uh cookie things in there grab grab the B they're gone oh no you want a z Kim if you're watching make sure you bring some replenish we need to replenish always all right go Easter candy I think it's old her grandma we get it from a grandma it than vice president Cala Dow Jones is down the debate would you like the explain back I was going to read off the things po B about immigrants explain thats y'all we've hit record high what's up it was sarcastic that was my favorite part of the debate I'm talking [Music] about here in Butler Pennsylvania it was I picked up the sarcasm on that comment for sure that's why we all laughed right [Laughter] yeah I wish it was is this as silly as you thought it was going to be yeah Mr silly hat yeah it kind of is I kind of want RFK Jr to just like [ __ ] walk out on the stage and just like come in dude half for real who sorry RFK junr just come like be like a joke Trump trump just disappears STS out inania here again David and Lindsay Davis welome back to this historic news presidential debate tonight we're going to continue here and I want to turn to the war in ukra 2 and a half years into this conflict Mr President it has been the position of the Biden Administration that we must defend Ukraine from Russia from Vladimir Putin to defend their sovereignty their democracy that it's in America's best interest to do so wins further into other countries you have said you would solve this war in 24 hours you said so just before the break tonight how exactly would you do that and I want to ask you a very simple question tonight do you want Ukraine to win this War I want the war stop being people F right at the little you wild sniffing to look deep into that so i' I've compared accept no I I called it out last time when he was debating Biden about his neck [ __ ] and I noticed that had one a little bit do we have a puke bucket by chance and I was I was wondering which one I was going to vote for based on their we are they're in for $150 billion less because Biden and you don't have the courage to ask [Music] Europe like me as much as they like a better name you take a look at what's happening we're in for 250 to 275 billion they're into 100 to 150 they should be forced to equalize with that being said I want to get the War settled I know zalinski very well and I know pu very well I have a good relationship and they respect your president okay they respect me they don't respect Biden how would you respect him why for what reason he hasn't even made a phone call in two years hasn't spoken any they don't even try and get it that is a war that's dying to be settled I will get it settled before I become president if I win when I'm President elect and what I'll do is I'll speak to one I'll speak to the other I'll get them together that war would have never happened and in fact when I saw Putin after I left unfortunately left because our our country has gone to hell but after I left when I saw him building up soldiers he did it after I left I said oh he must be negotiating it must be a good strong point of negotiation well it wasn't because Biden had no idea how to talk to him he had no idea how to stop it and now you have millions of people dead and it's only getting worse and it could lead to World War II don't kid yourself David we're playing with World War III and we have a president that we don't even know if he's where is our president we don't even know if he's a president just to clear it here they threw him out of a campaign like a dog we don't even know is he our president but we [Laughter] your time is up just to clarify in the question do you believe it's in the US best interest for Ukraine to win this war yes or no I think it's the US best interest to get this war finished and just get it done negotiate a deal because we have to stop all of these human lives stop F from being destroyed I want to take this to vice president Harris I want to get your thoughts on support for Ukraine in this moment but also as commander-in-chief if elected how would you deal with Vladimir Putin and would it be any different from what we're seeing from President Biden well first of all it's important to remind the former president you're not running against Joe Biden you're running against me I believe the reason that Donald Trump says that this war would be over within 24 hours is because he would just give it up and that's not who we are as Americans let's understand what happened here um I actually met with zy few days R tried through for course to change territorial boundaries to Define one of the most important International rules and Norms which is the importance of sovereignty and territorial integrity and I met with President zansky I shared with him American intelligence about how he could defend himself days later I went to natland and Roman 50 countries together to support Ukraine in its righteous defense you don't because of our support because of the air defense the ammunition the artillery the javelins the ab's tanks that we have provided Ukraine stands as an independent and free country if Donald Trump were President Putin would be sitting in ke right now and understand what that would mean because Putin's agenda is not just about Ukraine understand why the European allies and our NATO allies are so thankful that you are longer president and that we understand the importance of the greatest military Alliance the world has ever known which is NATO and what we have done to preserve the ability of zalinski and the ukrainians to fight for their independence otherwise Putin would be sitting in keev with his eyes on the rest of Europe starting with Poland and why don't you tell the 800,000 polish Americans right here in Pennsylvania how quickly you would give up for the sake of favor and what you think is a friendship with what is known to be a dictator who would eat you for lunch vice president Harris thank you we've heard from both of you on Ukraine tonight Afghanistan came up in the he's like dude she just said she eat me for Lun I must be in Ohio I'll give you a minut I'm more of a dinner kind of guy there's no way sit in Moscow and he wouldn't have lost 300,000 men and women but he would have been sitting in my Scout quiet please he would have been sitting in Moscow much happier than he is right now but eventually you know he's got a thing that other people don't have he's got nuclear weapons talk about weapons nobody ever thinks about that and eventually maybe he'll use them maybe hasn't been that he does have that something we don't even like to talk about nobody likes to talk about it but just so you understand they sent her to negotiate peace before this war started three days later he went in and he started the war because everything they said was weak and stupid they said the wrong things should have never do you know do you know the history of this conflict please elaborate so we all know that Circa what Circa Circa what when were we starting what years I think you should do what Putin did in the the probably probably the and then and then what Well w what the [ __ ] is the name there's a there was a group of people that were in Eastern and in uh Southern Ukraine and I can't remember what they're called and they basically got [ __ ] genocided or ethnically cleansed by Russia and that's why it's more eth ethnically Russian in that area I think I need to look more into that but you could remember to push forward to peno's uh loss of his election and then we had the the Civil War in Ukraine um I think bareno I can't remember um and then Russia sent in their green men or whatever said it wasn't them everybody knew was [ __ ] Russia they took Crimea right built a bridge in Crimea uh during Trump's presidency um there was something called the Cur straight incident where Ukrainian Navy Navy uh Boats were were seized and captured that the crew was captured Trump didn't nothing about it no negotiations whatsoever the only people who were actually doing negotiations during Trump's presidency was Germany France and um a couple other European countries I can't remember the only time that Trump like notely talked to zalinsky about this war was when he was threatening to withhold Aid so he could dig up dirt on on Hunter Biden and Joe Biden his political upcoming political opponent so it's the idea that Putin suddenly waited for for Biden to get into office to [ __ ] build up his military put him on the border and then invade Ukraine is absolutely asine he was going to do it from the start it's it's ridiculous he was just able to get the pieces set in place to be in yeah what he's doing now I believe there's even Trump ain't I believe there's even uh um articles of how they were doing training exercises and [ __ ] it wasn't necessarily on the border of Ukraine but like they were Bo boering their their military the entire four years he was in there and Trump had nothing to say about it he's just cozied up to him like oh it's my buddy Putin I know him well he's full of [ __ ] just the great negotiator he doesn't know what the [ __ ] he's talking about you you you walk in and you and you flatter Trump and he's putty in your hand you seen it all the time and then he makes up these crazy stories about how he's some sort of tough guy the dude's got a gut that sticks past his sticks out into the next room it's it's ridiculous he he [ __ ] lied about having bone spurs to get out of the military he's not a tough guy yeah but that those throat flaps so he ghost right at the here we go Andrew's got some PolitiFact here for Carfax uh I was just kind of researching the history of the of the Ukraine conflict and yeah everything's fitting up you know exactly as uh you're saying there with h the fighting in the donbass region going on all the way up through like 2016 to 2017 yep um he did nothing yeah if anything he probably uh in in encourage Putin because they dude they Putin handed him this is something that not a lot of people talk about and I and I forgot about this they there was some event I think it was [ __ ] the World Cup or something like that Putin handed him a soccer ball the [ __ ] uh FBI or or CIA or whatever [ __ ] like went into that soccer ball and found out it was bugged he had no idea he just [ __ ] took it it's like oh okay thank you you know like that's what I mean you flatter this guy and you get what you want he's he's a [ __ ] P py during his campign I'm sure he C keeps that soccer ball right there on theall office desk who cares dude if even if he's carrying it around with anybody what would you what would you do take the soccer ball and kick it and go [ __ ] you Putin yeah probably I'd be like no it's actually it's probably I played soccer so I'd be like dude I'll nut me you right now you're bit or he takes it and goes thank you and then he just [ __ ] hands it off gives it to his son and then he gets the dirt on his who was that that uh from the NFL that Putin like stole their uh uh ring from oh yeah [ __ ] did the guy like showed it to him and then walks off with it I was like godamn he do notar nice R thanks all right he's not running so let's I just that made me think of that communist specifically related to I don't think I'm gonna Vote for This Putin guy specifically toin and Ukraine it's he says in the early efforts to reach a solution of the violence are slowed by us president Donald Trump to briefly blocks US military aid to Ukraine and S suggests to zalinski he should instead work with Putin to resolve the crisis at a phone call of trump in 2019 zilinsky requested a visit to the White House to meet Trump about us backing recurring efforts to push off Russia Dr ask zinsky for a favor an investigation in Energy company barisma in the bidens a White House was the plains leading to Trump's first impeachment in December 2019 this is the quick proo incident M if you get dirt then you get your ID anyway too bad get Robert Robert there's no dirt Robert in wor country our country let me tell you something she is a horrible negotiator they sent her in to negotiate as soon as did The Invasion president Trump thank you you did bring up something you said she like to negotiate with Vladimir Putin vice president the guy before showed him his wife when I went to meet with President Zenia and I met with him over five times wait he the reality is it has been about standing as America always should as a leader upholding International rules and Norms as a leader who shows strength understanding that the alliances we have around the world are dependent on our ability to look out for our friends and not favor our enemies because you adore strong men instead of caring about democracy and that is very much what is at stake here the president of the United States is commanderin-chief and the American people have a right to rely on a president who understands the significance of America's role and responsibility in terms of ensuring that there is stability and ensuring we stand up for our principles and not sell them for the for the benefit of personal flattery we've talked about Ukraine and Vladimir Putin I do want to talk about Afghanistan it came up in in the first hour of this debate I I want to move on to Afghanistan said Trump did the most amazing thing I've ever seen he got these countries to 28 countries at the time to pay up he said I've never seen he's the head of NATO he said I've never seen for years we were paying almost all of NATO we were being ripped off by European nations both on trade and on NATO I got them to pay up by saying one of the statements you made before if you don't pay we're not going to protect you otherwise we would have never gotten it he said it was one of the most incredible jobs that he's ever seen done thank you I want to turn to Afghanistan it came up in the first hour of the debate and we witnessed a poignant moment today on Capitol Hill honoring the soldiers who died in the chaotic withdrawal from I ask the vice president do you believe you bear any responsibility in the way that withraw played out well I will tell you I agreed with President Biden's decision to pull out of Afghanistan four presidents said they would and Joe Biden did and as a result America's taxpayers are not paying the $300 million a day we were paying for that endless war and as of today there is not one member of the United States military who is in active duty in a combat zone in any war zone around the world the first time this Century but let's understand how we got to where we are Donald Trump when he was president negotiated one of the weakest deals you can imagine he calls himself a deal maker even his National Security advisor said it was a weak terrible deal and here's how it went down he bypassed the Afghan government he negotiated directly with a terorist organization called the Taliban the negotiation involved the Taliban getting 5,000 terrorist Taliban terrorists released and get this no get this and the president at the time invited the Taliban to C David a place of stored significance for us as Americans a place where we honor the importance of American diplomacy where we invite and receive respected world leaders and this former president as president invited them to Camp David because he does not again appreciate the role and responsibility of the president of the United States to be commanderin-chief with a level of respect and this gets back to the point of how he has consistently disparaged and demeaned members of our military Fallen Soldiers and the work that we must do to uphold the strength and the respect of the United States of America around the world president Harris thank you president Trump your response to her saying that you began the negotiations the Taliban so if you take a look at that was killing a lot of them with snipers and I got involved with the Taliban because the Taliban was doing the killing that's the Fighting Force within Afghanistan they don't bother doing that because you know they deal with the wrong people all the time but I got involved and Abdul is the head of the Taliban he is still the head of the Taliban and I told Abdul don't do it anymore you do it anymore you're going to have problems and he said why do you send me a picture of my house I said you're going to have to figure that out Abdul 18 months we had nobody terrorist the leader of Terror is like what is this I don't know is is this the blackmail is that what you call it uh what is thisen do it how you would I've never seen this strategy uh borrow it you read into it how you will it's picture your house we're just going to leave that there I got to say that's definitely one of the coolest things Trump's ever said show him his house I found him a picture of his house I said he said what is this I said you better figure it out he just said if that's true pull a fact that that cuz he knows that's the Trump Abdul says that's true I could probably take a [ __ ] do that I understand the implications that I'll bomb you whenever I want so let's see there's a couple more coming up that's the word implications new beautiful milary equipment behind and just to finish they blew it said you have to do this this this your I'm just to the agreement was was ter by us I don't think it need to be history of our country and by the way that's why Russia attacked Ukraine because they saw how incompetent she and her boss are President Trump thank you I want to move on now to race and politics in this country Mr President you recently said a vice president Harris quote I didn't know she was black until a number of years ago when she happened to turn black and now she wants to be known as black I want to ask a bigger picture question here tonight loate to weigh in on the racial identity of your opponent that I don't care what is I don't care you make a big deal out of something I couldn't care less whatever she wants to be is okay with me but those were your words so I don't know I don't know I mean all I can say is I read where she was not black that she put out and I'll say that and then I read that she was black and that's okay either one was okay with me that's up to her that's up to her vice president Harris your thoughts on this I think it's I mean honestly I think it's a a tragedy that we have um someone who wants to be president who has consistently over the course of his career attempted to use race to divide the American people you know I do believe that the vast majority of us know that have so much more in common than what separates us and we don't want this kind of approach that is just constantly trying to divide us and especially by race and let's remember how Donald Trump started he was a a a a land he owned land he owned buildings and he he was investigated because he refused to rent property to black families let's remember this is the same individual whatever took a full page in the New York calling to the execution of five young black and Latino boys who were innocent the Central Park 5 took out a full page ad calling for their execution this is the same individual who spread birth or lies about the first black president of the United States and I think the American people want better than that want better than this want someone who understands as I do I travel our country we see in each other a friend we see in each other a neighbor we don't want a leader who is constantly trying to have Americans Point their fingers at each other I meet with people all the time who tell me can we please just have discourse about how we're going to invest in the aspirations and the Ambitions and the dreams of the American people knowing that regardless of people's color or the language their grandmother speaks we all have the same dreams and aspirations and Want a President Who invests in those not in hate and division RF president Trump this is now your third time interesting this is the most divisive presidency in the history of our country there's never done anything like it they're destroying our country and come up with things like what she just said going back many many years when a lot of people including May Bloomberg agreed with me on the Central Park 5 they admitted they said they plead guilty and I said well if they plad guilty they'd badly hurt a person killed a person ultimately and if they pled guilty then they pled we're not guilty but this is a person that has to stretch back years 40 50 years ago because there's nothing now I built one of the greatest economies in the history of the world and I'm going to build it again it's going to be bigger better and stronger but they're destroying our economy they have no idea what a good economy is their oil policies every single policy and remember this really yeah I don't think she is she's trying to get away from Biden I don't know the gentleman she says she is Biden the worst inflation we've ever had a horrible economy because inflation has made it so bad you can't get away with if he turns but that is one of his signature things I'm not TS to face the C where in historical presidential you don't do that you always stand Face Forward one who believes is one who brings a sense of optimism what we can do doing she's doing it she's taking we can do to I honestly streng our small businesses which is why I have a plan let's talk about then let's come the plans I have a plan almost to give startup businesses $50,000 dedu there's not much there's this going toenail like the size of a penny two c your child's life I think you shout off toenail clippers mean I got more chop missing out of my ear but that's from the mice when I was a baby wait really we like those mice too to keep overage of your child's devel for I won that people to be able to pursue better than dogs and cats fuing drug got dogs and cats help with down payment of $25,000 down payment assistance for firsttime home buyers the kind of conversation David people really want tonight as opposed to a conversation that is constantly about belittling and bilon the page forward oh he switch yes oh Bri the moral the moral side huh Andrew well I mean he is aquatic animal like a fish you [ __ ] just everybody repal and replace the Affordable Care Act also known as OB you have failed to accomplish that you going to keep OB unless we can do something much better last month you said we're working on it so tonight 9 years after you first started running do you have a plan and can you tell us what it is Obamacare was lousy healthare always was it's not very good today and what I said that if we come up with something and we are working on things we're going to do it and we're going to replace it but remember this I inherited Obamacare because Democrats wouldn't change it they wouldn't vote for they were unanimous they wouldn't vote to change it if they would have done that we would have had a much better plan than Obamacare but the Democrats came up they wouldn't vote for it I had a choice to make when I was President do I save it and make it as good as it can be never going to be great or do I let it rot and I felt I had an obligation even though politically it would have been good to just let it rot and let it go away I decided and I told my people the top people and they're very good people I have a lot of good people in this that Administration we read about the bad ones we have some real bad ones to so do they they have really bad ones the differences they don't get rid of them but let me just explain I had a choice to make do I save it and make it as good as it can be or do I let it rot and I saved it I did the right thing but it's still never going to be great and it's too expensive for people and what we will do is we're looking at different plans if we can come up with a plan that's going to cost our people our population less money and be better health care than Obamacare then I would absolutely do it but until then I'd run it as good as it can be run so just yes or know you still do not have a plan I have concepts of a plan right now they're kind of [ __ ] on him a little bit come with something that's and less expensive and there are Concepts and options we we have to do that and you'll be hearing about it in the not vice president Harris in 201 you supported Bernie Sanders proposal to do away with private insurance and create a government run healthare system two years later you proposed a plan that included a private insurance option what is your plan today well first of all I absolutely suppor over the last four years as vice president private healthcare options what we need to do is maintain and grow the affordable like this but from to the upper left corner down I don't think they and then this taking see how Qui they're [Music] Chun away so stop with the continuous lying about this stuff as it relates to the Affordable Care Act understand just look at the history to know where people stand when Donald Trump was President 60 times he tried to get rid of the Affordable Care Act 60 times I was a Senator at the time when I will never forget the early morning hours when it was up for a vote in the United States Senate and the late great John M caller who you have disparaged as being you don't like him you said at the time because he got caught he was an American hero the late great John will never forget that night walked on to the senate floor and said no you don't no you don't no you don't get rid of the Affordable Care Act you have no plan and what the affordable Care Act has done is eliminate the ability of insurance companies to deny people with pre-existing conditions I don't have to tell the people watching tonight you remember what that was like remember when an insurance company could deny if a child had asthma if someone was a breast cancer survivor if a if a grandparent had diabetes and thankfully as I've been vice president and we over the last four years have strengthened the Affordable Care Act we have allowed for the first time Medicare to negotiate drug prices on behalf of you the American people Donald Trump said he was going to allow Medicare to negotiate drug prices he never did we did and now we have capped the cost of insulin at $35 a month since I've been Vice President we have capped the cost of prescription medication for seniors at $2,000 a year and when I am President we will do that for all people understanding that the value I bring to this is that access to healthare should be a right and not just a privilege of those who can AFF the plan has to be to strengthen the Affordable Care Act not get rid of it I want to move to an issue that's important for a take care of type one diabetes Obamacare for 10 years it wasn't all of the Democrats that kept it going and you know we can do much better than Obamacare much less money but she won't improve private insurance for people private medical insurance that's another thing she doesn't want to people are paying privately for insurance that have worked hard and made money and they want to have private she wants everybody to be on government insurance where you wait six months for an operation that you need immed president Trump thank you we have another issue that we'd like to get to that's important for a number of Americans in particular voters and that's climate change president Trump with regard to the environment you say next question threat the question to you both tonight is what would you do to fight climate change and vice president Harris we'll start with you one minute for you each well the former president had said the climate change is a hoax and what we know is that it is very real in a state who has experienced these extreme weather occurrences who now is either being denied home insurance or it's being jacked up you ask anybody who has been um the victim of what that means in terms of losing their home having nowhere to go we know that we can actually deal with this issue the young people of America care deeply about this issue and I am proud that as vice president over the last four years we have invested a trillion dollars in a clean energy economy while we have also increased domestic gas production to Historic levels we have created over 800,000 new manufacturing jobs while I have been Vice President we have invested in clean energy to the point that we are opening up factories around the world Donald Trump no not for the flip flopper he's going to share with Murphy now too also that products American automobiles it includes fun with the new gret we can do you'll be all right don't worry like good luck you [ __ ] as soon as he had the cookie in his hand pale the water out of the boat and then afterwards he's like thr the bucket in the water good luck fcker I'll be on my see you later they think they're going to sell their cars into the United States because of these people what they have given to China is unbelievable but we're not going to let that we'll put tariffs on those cars so they can't come into our country because they will kill the United aut workers and any aut worker whether it's in Detroit or South Carolina or any other place what they've done to business and Manufacturing in this country is horrible we have nothing because they they refuse you know Biden doesn't go after people because supposedly China paid a millions of dollars he's afraid to do it between him and his son they get all this money from Ukraine they get all this money from all of these different countries and then you wonder why is he so loyal to this one that one Ukraine China why is he why did he get three5 million dollar from the mayor of moscow's wife why did he get why didn't she pay him $3.5 million this is a crooked Administration and they're selling our country down the tubes president Trump thank you thank you we'll be right back with closing statement from both of our candidates hisor what was the question I asked you at the beginning do you remember I was trying to keep that of mind when they're talking you remember what the [ __ ] I asked you to begin with he got asked about the Israel war and he immediately started talking about Ukraine I was like war wrong War dude this thing advertisement suction cup on this bro this is on a poest [ __ ] piece of wood and it's still hanging oh no man down you can't see it but off screen uh Tony is uh speed boxing a 14inch tilto we got everything on the stream R just shout to you on that one oh yes I care about issues um it is pause we're in a commercial right now I think right yeah yeah Tony's peeing can hear all right action wow see I guess our house is no longer here but we are here TR did that probably break this house not sharing I know blocking my view I looked over and I saw it I said we're back with tonight's debate between KLA Harris and Donald Trump what please join us for analysis of tonight's key moments our team will break it down as we enter the final Sprint to election day we'll go back to the debate and closing statements you make fun of live from the national Constitution Center in Philadelphia Pennsylvania Here Again David M and lindsy Davis welcome back tonight the time has come for closing statements and vice president Harris we begin with you s oh [ __ ] here we go so I think you've heard tonight two different Visions for our country one that is focused on the future and the other that is focused on the past and an attempt to take us backward but we're not going back and I do believe that the American people know we all have so much more in common than what separates us and we can chart a new way forward and a vision of that includes having a plan understanding the aspirations the dreams the hopes the ambition of the American people which is why I intend to create an opportunity economy investing in small businesses in new families and what we can do around protecting seniors what we can do that is about giving hardworking folks of break and bringing down the cost of living I believe in what we can do together that is about sustaining America's standing in the world and ensuring that we have the respect that we so rightly deserve including respecting our military and ensuring we have the most lethal fighting force in the world I will be a president that will protect our fundamental rights and freedoms including the right of a woman to make decisions about her own body and not have her government tell her what to do I'll tell you I started my career as a prosecutor I was a DA I was an attorney general a United States Senator and now Vice President I've only have one client the people and I'll tell you as a prosecutor I never asked a victim or a witness are you a Republican or a Democrat the only thing I ever asked them are you okay and that's the kind of President we need right now someone who cares about you and is not putting themselves first I intend to be a president for all Americans and focus on what we can do over the next 10 and 20 years to build back up our country by investing right now in knew the American people vice president Harris thank you president Trump so she just started by saying she's going to do this she's going to do that she's going to do all these wonderful things why hasn't she done it she's been there for three and a half years they've had three and A2 years to fix the Border they've had three and A2 years to create jobs and all the things we talked about why hasn't she done it she should leave right now go down to that beautiful white White House go to the capital get everyone together and do the things you want to do but you haven't done it and you won't do it because you believe in things that the American people don't believe in you believe in things like we're not going to Frack we're not going to take fossil fuel we're not going to do things that are going to make this country strong whether you like it or not Germany tried that and within one year they were back to building normal energy plants we're not ready for it we can't sacrifice our country country for the sake of bad Vision but I just ask one simple question why didn't she do it we're a failing Nation We're a nation that's in serious decline we're being laughed at all over the world all over the world they laugh I know the leaders very well they're coming to see me they call me we're laughed at all over the world they don't understand what happened to us as a nation we're not a leader we don't have any idea what's going on we have wars going on in the Middle East we have wars going on with Russia and Ukraine we're going to end up in a third world war and it'll be a war like no other because of nuclear weapons the power of Weaponry I rebuilt our entire used some pric language [Music] tots that are that are special forces CIA that are Larry IAL de all Center I'm Lindsay Davis and I'm David mu thank you for watching here in the US and all over the world and from all of us here at ABC News good night I love you night Mom all right let's get to the good [ __ ] here uh Rowan says she's she's delivering a CL statement that inspired how he's constantly trying to attack her and portray us for fools my choice is clear BR is that what you said yeah nice you just for that you knew you liked him not going to attack CH I knew I like back fellow soccer player what was the first thing that you liked about him I don't remember I don't um he's rocking cowboy was there anything that wasn't mentioned that you wanted to hear about AI China artificial intelligence China I thought those were two separate things Artificial Intelligence being oh God that one's so scary CU there's just so many unknowns like the unknown potential is in extreme there do we want a Proactive or reactive Str I don't think most of the the public cares I mean they they know of it as a thing but they don't understand it and I know it is but does regulation always fall on the public knowledge like no of course not but that it's not even really at the point where it's it's needs to be regulated yet like I was saying proactive reactive yeah but all almost all legislation is reactive is it not true yeah you got to set the precedent first before he can write the law about it however this is a different story because we are looking at something that could cause the extinction of humanity if we play with it wrong you can and can still have a strategy looking forward to it is discuss hey maybe they're not written down rules stu um I mean we we see the we see the kind of people that get on committees completely different I mean come on now at we we see the kind of people that make it on committees Lucas are both on committees that we I mean come on now did you accept it um I I do very much agree that I I think AI should have been a talking point that I wish they would have gotten into at least at least briefly so I'm going to be the one guy that disagrees I wish Trump would have talked about some of the topics why I guess why do you why do you disagree I don't think I don't think it's on the Forefront of a lot of people's mind they talked about on people's mind housing and the border and the just because it's like on the for yeah that is probably how they get those questions is they pull people what do you what do you care about just because people do or don't care about it doesn't mean it's not more important than certain things I think you think that that the implementation of artificial intelligence is less or more important than the Ukraine war personally in in this in the the macro scale in the macro scale personally I think it's probably more important however it's not more important to the US public and and yes that isn't that I think you basically just described like the definition of what they do is that's like what they do they pick the most important topics to the we could it could also be in a situation yeah I debates often time debates aren't really you're not going to I mean I guess they're trying to capture the center but most of the time unless we saw like the last debate which I feel like that's an outlier most of the time people aren't changing their mind after here's the issue I have is that we're not tackling it at a speed a rate of speed that is fast enough for what the technology we have now sure AI is not a problem right now but in three months we wait we have no clue we would there's no clue it's it's almost like the Pandora's box of once it happens any reactive any reaction to it is too it's it's over there is no reaction period there's there's always the ability to turn on an AI and get it running but shutting it down is a completely different story yeah it's like a 13- ag boy yeah I mean once there once there wor any dude it's hard there can you can you imagine can can you imagine if an AI was to an entire country like if it was mared 38y old there's just there's a lot of potential and a lot of opportunity for abuse and this technology could make or break humanity and I think that it's being completely your mind Bobby what's your opinion on this topic on AI in I mean I I'm not super familiar with stuff my understanding is a lot of that's presumably a bit far away before most doomsday scenarios that most people worry about that being said I agree with the Viewpoint of like okay but what are we waiting for that to happen like um how technology is going to affect things I mean it already is so much of technolog is already affecting people's lives how we consume our media how we get our truth and the AI is definitely going to be a huge factor of that in the future um and probably not for the best I guess look at how it's being implemented already the the the the beginning stage of it is that and it's not regulated it's regulated by corporations but um is that really like picture of the future that we want there's a big issue with YouTube recently where creators found out that some of their content was being used for training AI models and that was like your directly you know ripping off that material from those cre that's just cop law chat is that what you're talking talking about the little white box that shows up in the chat is that you're talking about no I I I I there's um if you're familiar with um John John Green and um I can't remember his brother's name John and Hank oh yeah GRE I know yep so a lot of their informational content um uh crash course videos stuff like that has been um Google has been uh unknowing to them ripping it the train AI it was like the to and they found it kind of yeah they can find like there's websites there that people have created that you can like search you know information and uh see whether or not it's been trained by an AI I think K made a pretty good video on this oh yeah with yeah that's definitely worth watching um I sent one of about that specific case though yeah let me see if I can find well okay what are what's Happ to China we both brought that one up that one didn't even get mhm is just Terror ter tariffs yeah I have I have concerns about China um increasing its dominance through um economic power where it's reaching out and saying hey yeah we'll fund these Bridges and these schools and all this sort of stuff and indebting Nations to them through more um less hard power and more soft power means to increase their ability to dominate the World Market and try I'm guessing to take the spot of the reserve currency for the world yeah but they've been like alluding to that for [ __ ] years now right China's taking over China's taking over we were talking what's the um is it bricks or something it's all the countries that yeah I I heard about that yesterday and I it is like you list off the country and it's like who who would want to go into business with one of those countries if not all like you really think that's going to be a successful currency just looking at the list but what are you talking about bricks like that's a it's I it's Russia China um South Africa and that's their propos and they're they're trying to make like it you know the the the Euro like the EU they're trying to kind of do that I I I don't know a lot about it but that's my quick and on it um I'm more concerned with ch China's military capabilities that's that to me is more concerning than their economic implications I will agree with that especially because um they're the only other country that's pretty high up in terms of the AI training capabilities and stuff like that yeah so um they they have pretty good access to information and Mathematics that they can use for all of that rocket creation and that sort of stuff there's a good um times uh a a article it was a few days ago I kind of touches on Nvidia and the um current state of AI and and the chips that they use for it and um how some of them are sent to China and how the US is playing like a cat and mouse game with Nvidia on regulating uh chips to China specifically so they can't use them in their military for uh AI projects interesting lesson something that I also was curious about but I I don't think it would ever come up in like a mainstream presidential debate because it's not the media concern for a lot of people in countries is proliferation in the space and how things are going to dynamically change across the world and in the nation when it comes to having multiple Vehicles going up in space over like you know there's there's talks of China is working on creating a lunar base and us is going back to the mov for the first time we're working on PL to go to Mars it's like there's all this space proliferation and what's going to happen around the world order and dominance of countries and that sort of stuff when you're talking about proliferating off of our planet the final frontier yes speaking of that will they talk about aliens oh I there's lots at least they talk about illegal aliens our there he would have brought up aliens but are you thinking about like all the UFO stuff that's been going on this last year or something yeah I'm that's watch the podcast that [ __ ] there yeah I mean you brought Andrew you brought it up at the beginning uh like where's Kamala been up until this point Kamala Kamala Kamala glad I'm I'm glad I'm not the only one bang bang said I'm glad I'm not the only one yeah Madam vice president uh Madam vice president uh soon to be where she been where his Trump's been hitting the stage at least from my perspective and his that's what it looked like CU that was the big thing I was lacking from her especially I've heard a little bit of Tim wall speak and a little bit of her from like the DNC stuff but it was like she never you know you the more you listen to Somebody the better you're going to understand them and the longer you listen I don't think it's tender to her though like moving forward from this like she did a great job tonight in the sense that like but no one's going to even remember that like at this point after this moving forward they're not like oh where was she it's like well there she is now this the assassination attempt got [ __ ] buried by Biden getting pushed out that's wild overnight well then you didn't talk about that at all either like just even in the sense of like how do you feel about the threat of this happening to you he brought it up Trump brought it up yeah very very shortly mentioned it very briefly yeah he's like they Shad me that was that was your rhetoric that caused that not mine yeah which is nonsense absolute nonsense the the temperature has been turned up by him and his party like they're the ones who have been talking about hammer time when PA Pelosi get degrees of guilt it's not guilty versus innocent on this one yeah it's it's it is kind of a who shot first thing and I'm definitely leaning towards Republicans obviously right because I mean I I don't even know if it is a who shot yeah uh but what were you saying oh like where's where's uh Ben right and and that was it coming from a last minute change like this it's I think it's expected I I mean you're you're handling your Campaign which was at at the start of it ulation of of Obama era campaign managers or campaign workers and some of Biden so she ended up like go through and and like call some of them and decide who was best for her um finding a running mate in a short a short time period like all of these things done on an acceler run true Tim w i i could I could kind of see that I could kind of see that maybe this was a slow build and now that she's gone through like a formal debate process and the American public has a chance to really you know see her on stage especially comparing her one to one with Trump I would be very interested to see if she takes on more long form interviews or does more I think this would just build her confidence to that point yeah yeah not even her it's just the party's confidence okay we're doing on stage nope this is we're good and the other the other half of it and I think I just heard this today is that Biden strategy was he didn't make his way out as much as like Trump did and it worked so P broke yeah that was a different story though because it's and was a big part of that as well yeah because it was it is that moment of like upset fear where it kind of reminds me very briefly makes me think of um the situation with like FDR and World War II where the American public was kind of freaking out and they needed to turn to somebody Y and you know Biden's already been there in office so it was kind of that a blip of that you know with Co is what I imagine I think that's a fair comparison yeah absolutely so it was a crazy time I was freaking wiping groceries down with Clorox was oh yeah yeah my mom was a she got diagnosed with breast cancer during the early stage of it no kidding my had cancer as well that so we we never saw them we were wiping down groceries with Clorox wipes and [ __ ] it was crazy it was awful man every [ __ ] day oh yeah I didn't mind it I was homeschooling with my kids it's true yeah getting paid homeschool my kids wasn't too bad I didn't mind it no didn't I'm glad it didn't last I'm glad it didn't last I didn't exactly like wearing a the [ __ ] mask and a 100 plus when I got a job when I got a job offer I was like I'm going to take it I'm going back to work I'm not doing this I'm done playing teacher yeah not playing teacher what was the the lesson FL look like and I agree with you uh she should be proud School schools provided like lesson plans and stuff like that but I did some additive stuff like music teacher gym teacher dress up have a little fun Dodge every day teacher R [ __ ] but what sucks is like once I did like one character they wanted it back every week and I'm like I don't want to do it every week I don't have that kind of energy all the time den Rodman is your gym teacher holy [ __ ] Rowan says uh I she should be proud of her performance tonight I hope she feels confident take a few more interviews steo stopped in for a little bit hey what' he say nothing he just said good evening my fellow Americans could even steeve it'll it'll be interesting I want to see how it's framed I can't imagine that like the right-wing Outlets are going to put her at painter in a good light they're going to focus in on moments where she probably stutter paused or something like that I mean she had a little blip where she stuttered and like was touching the face but yeah when the you're up there for an hour and a half like she really they both did really I mean both of them have the endurance to be up there yeah it definitely seemed like he got heated a little bit here th yeah Trump got pretty angry for a little while there too he was getting loud think they definitely wanted that though like she's definitely trying to like yeah get his Goose a little bit and try to get him fired up mhm so um something I was curious about because so we were talking about RFK and Lucas and I both have interest in him when he but now he's dropped out at this point was uh but not in some states yep you still both from oh really wow matter but I was I don't know what to think after this debate especially because RFK was he had things that he talked about uh specifically big ones for like uh removing preservatives and chemicals and stuff like that from food products sounds like he had plans and was willing to talk about the pl you want the department of hell I see I see RFK Jr being like our generation Our eras like uh Ross Pro where he was like a third party candidate that was like had some potential Ross per he focused on economic education like he would take out TV time and literally go this is what GDP means this is what all these aspects of your economy mean and You' educate the public and you gain a lot of interest just based off of that is he's he was paying for that too he was taking out of his own pocket so that's formulating my thoughts on what RFK stands for didn't you get a his but the car captures big was way after but so RFK Jr has done that a a little bit I wouldn't say as explicitly and direct but with other topics and like I don't see I don't really see him as like a a president I do see him as more of a support character in in in the game or in in the storyline here but it's I like when he joined Trump tr's party I kind of honestly him and Tulsi I kind of scoffed at it because it's like how long are they going to [ __ ] last you look at everybody else who's been involved in Trump's campaigns and it's just like what's the halflife on this and it's yeah whether he he cans them or they're just like okay I'm [ __ ] done with this none of this is going to get implemented this is all just a waste of [ __ ] time um I thought this was the play at the time and then we're we're moving on so Rowan brings up a good point um Rowan said didn't RFK straight up say he wouldn't endorse Trump when he made his bid for the independent vote what changed and um right away yes he did originally say like when he first started running he was like I will not support you know go for either side if you're anything right it's either you join the Trump party Trump campaign or you [ __ ] don't exist so it's sure did any you guys listen to rk's outgoing speech yeah when he uh some of it yeah yeah I he kind of said you know his piece there which I thought was very relevant especially about censorship in the media I think that was a very critical component of his campaign not being seen as very serious um you never open up a new site anywhere and find him anywhere close to a front page I saw him when interviews in CNN I think pretty sure I saw him not not for months I mean I I really did keep up with it announcing his uh campaign for months you mean or or being an independent candidate between the between um trying to think of the whatever what events were before the assassination attempt yeah his own um he was on kill Tony third debate or something like that too or like after the first debate with bid and Trump didn't he like host his own thing yes he did he hosted the real debate which was his own third party Edition where he did an extra minute and a half or whatever he had on top of that and it was good I mean it was really I think that that was you know but once again I I think that I don't see much in his him in the policy wing of things I haven't heard much of hisy at all he just it sounds to me and I say this with like all due respect it sounds to me like he just says a lot of things that sound good we well and we agreed on this at work the other day of like okay his yeah exactly his power ends with what he can Implement as president he has no support in Congress or the Senate it it's he would have to pull all of those people in or whoever it would take in order to pass these types of things I bet the mupp just like he'd be fighting that the entire time it's just not going to H it's just not practical I bet I bet the rest of the Muppet support that's the unfort sounds like I would say like I want to be hopeful and and say that the things that he stands for are good and important and that people should support them but there are people in power who don't want to so they won't but his role could be more educational like oh yeah it I I think that he could he could yeah especially if he you know added value through a department that was not it might interrup it might help him to get out of the PO realm because then it's like he's not getting attacked on like that level it's he can focus more facts based of health and conservation and I mean it's not this is Dreamland here but you tell him him to stay in his Lane basically right you're like he just needs to stay in his Lane not the main character we got it no this help publicize like what what he's fighting for and then it's you use what that publicity that you've gained and like um everybody who's attacking him isn't helping his situation and I don't know pull the old alore move you know just help I think the brains have done more the opposing well that's what it's exactly what I'm talking like these talking points of like oh the brain worms Oh R boy so let's get him on that let's get him on that it's like okay sh out the [ __ ] window and done a lot of damage to I hate the bits I like every every person like there's this you know specific people that you can call out like several bits for a person like RFK definitely was one where it was like the brain worms right Ora fake news fake news for Trump or whatever Earth a fair bit of ammo in that kind of Department though he's it's not like this just little things like why you got to pick on his brain worm he just a guy with a brain worm yeah yeah like and then you got to bring up killing bears and hiding them in Parts like it's not like one he's got a pretty big list of like that's kind of weird man the better one I heard is actually a really funny story like when you listen to it ite especially got lots of funny stories about stuff like that um something my uncle has some good stories too exactly but tell me you dumb [ __ ] when you were younger I'm saying it's not people weren't pulling things out of thin air to to to to mock them for it was yeah he was bringing in a pretty big list for them to go off of take your Pi weird stories for sure yeah and he didn't he he just would like just talk about himself he like oh yeah [ __ ] yeah I got to get this out before the M I wanted to eat that bear what the hell you talking about I had to figure out was something to do with it shake that bear is that how we got I missed opportunity too bringing up eating cats and dogs and no no RFK there to comment on that I guess are you for killing animals and not for the resources he he does love to eat game yeah that's fine I don't see might be brain came from almost certainly is I could easily believe it yeah yeah uh didn't he hit the bear with a car or something like that or didn't somebody hit the bear with a car he said somebody else did and then he like laid bike next to it or something I don't made it like made it look like a biker hit the bear and killed the bear what yeah with their bike we'll this later that's what we all said we what kind of bike like but I mean Andrew I will say that if you if you want to support RFK Jr he is in someone's cabinet like Bas I'm not like trying to push you that I'm just saying like yeah it is it's not just he's he's not just he's not the president and therefore he can't just rule it he has to go through somebody but you think he's has is going to have more success implementing his [ __ ] through just one person or fighting a whole another party that literally was against them the entire time and I think I think that is the thing you and I'm not trying to influence you I'm just trying like kind of sayl even said that wanted to reach out to the Democratic party to you know try to take on some sort of you know help them with out the both parties yeah and Trump said yes B down to so you know and I I think that RFK in that sense took the the you know the what he could get or he realized okay well I don't feel like I have a good path here yeah just join because they said no on his ticket yeah which and you know it's like don't play how do you how do you you can't really quantify to how much influence he's going to have over the over I mean just from just from being okay being on someone's cabinet and literally being like directly one person away from influencing all the things that he ran for and wanted to influence versus a party that hates him and he has he's the bottom of the barrel he has a citizen he kind of garnered a lot hate himself though he took a lot of opportunity to trash the Democratic party no I know but Andrew what you just said is well it's hard to gauge how much influence he has it's like okay go based off of these situations and what's more [ __ ] polls was like 4% or something like no I'm just looking look at the Baseline here guys and it's like is this not self-evident of like you you have more possible influence in this situation than this situation so you got two two things two things that the person he's closest to is Donald Trump yes this Donald Trump so that's that's one thing you going to work with immediately and then the second thing is just because he is like one he can be in the room here he is not in the room here sure but do do you hear about uh uh a single chair of of uh the cabinet doing something that significant like doing what he claims that he wants to do on such a grand scale because I don't really see it from particular cabinet members RFK Jr made the choice of this I think based off of his logic he thought this was the better this was the more likely choice of influencing getting what he is so what I guess what's your perspective persective I think that the bureaucracy is too big for him to make a a grand enough uh change I agree with that but I'm attacking your your one statement of oh you can't judge influence I'm saying there's a probability like yeah we don't know the future we don't know if if Trump was in office right now the Ukraine war wouldn't be happening like these what if scenarios that iing about my idea that I'm getting at is that I want to vote for RFK and I don't know what percentage of voting for Trump would actually get me what RFK uh is off for what he offered I it's well let's say it's 100% you V for Trump huh let's say it's 100% RFK J yeah then you're just voting for RFK junr yeah yeah like like it's a percent versus no perc guess not necessarily they could have overlap or they could have different different policies like Trump could not have a policy on a specific thing that RFK does I think really what's going to happen is RFK is going to get bumped out in less than three months I even if Trump wins I think is unlikely our he'll chis CHR you EXA follow all right closing AR arguments let's wrap this up it's uh 10:35 who wants to go first then here I'll wrap mine up uh Camala showed me more of her neck [ __ ] so that's where I'm leaving well let's go back all right raise your hand if you think Camala won the the debate yeah I think she did tonight last even last last time I said Trump this time I said Kamala yeah I think she was the most logical one um I don't know if it was the strongest showing but what about going back to last debate going back to last debate I asked the question okay it's not always necessarily about like the most logical or pulling people one side of the other it's reinforcing your um your uh voter base do you think there was one did better than than the other in this or was it just kind of the status quo I I remember this question I think I'm going to have the same answer it's hard to imagine a reality where Trump doesn't already have his his b by the nuts so there's nothing good yeah I think that he I mean he just but there's always a few there's a percentage that's not like for him in the sense where it's like dude's just repeating the same [ __ ] and it's like it's getting old 48% or 47% or whatever that's him love it it hasn't changed yeah he he's got a strong grip on a base that just does not move and there's nothing they can see her here on that screen the same people who still think the for demat and they still think not the same degree okay so let's go over Cala and FBI were there break did she reinforce her her voter base the Democrats yes i' say did I think she I think if the goal was to grab the center I think K will look better to the center for the most part I'm sure maybe maybe want some more want some too but um I think she didn't seem hard hard hard left it in that debate I don't believe like even when I said like she reminds me of like o Obama a little bit where I'm like I'm not the only one that's seeing the speech and who like everyone [ __ ] loved him so when you said that I was like yeah I kind of get that same feel so if they they get that warm feeling of like oh that guy remember that guy we all Lov it's kind of M now did you see that might be cousin K got the same artist who did Obama's hope thing to do ah comma what's hers um it's a good question I'm not sure cryon I don't CP just with a K it's blood Knuckles someone throwing up blood knuckles I respect that I think well I think if you didn't there' be a problem show respect son um this guy wearing blue over here he'd be in trouble yeah Bloods don't take comment of that color all right anybody else got any closing comments I my my only question is what is it this is to Andrew specifically what is it about the Democratic party that you don't like um they stank and we can stank I we can talk about this off C if you want I have genuine concerns about the overlap in corporate and bureaucratic power right right now in our government and I think that the politics yes and I think that the Democrats uh don't really help break that down I feel like they help perpetuate that um and I think that that is something I have a growing concern about more so than AI um super packs is it is it lobbyism or what is it yes lobbyism uh corporate direct involvement the money speaks uh thing with the Supreme Court where uh companies can just inject money in in lobby like that the Supreme Court no lobbying Oh you mean their decision yes on the money speak or citizens united I United yes um and the companies having the ability to just dump at most money at um government issues is not okay I don't think that I think Super PS are problem you got to look at just like how wealth is it just trans transcends up this big fat ladder I understood lobbyism is like people come to speak to representatives in order to get something pass towards what they want H um I think a lot of people I think I'm going to be contrarian on this one too I think uh lobbyism gets a bad R but I don't think it's as effective as people think is super packs absolutely we've seen the ads like they're [ __ ] pumping them up well it's just like why do the millions of dollars even need to go through that process anyways um like I you know I usually on super Niche issues I think I think most lobbies so like you're going to have like medical lobbyists you're going to have like who were looking for like some random um child labor laws Iowa some some random like certification that needs to be passed now or something like it's going to be super small random things normally it's not like I I know people point to the NRA a lot for like a Lobby in a um most of the time I don't think it's going to be that I mean pharmaceutical companies well the fact that companies in themselves are donating millions and millions of dollars like why you know why what what interests do they have for people I know but like you got to look at some of the things that they're supporting when they Lobby for these things too so Andrew I feel the exact same way yeah but the question uh that I also have is um is it just that the the left is winning that battle right now and so we're pointing at them and going oh they're the bad guys but if the right was winning on it on this which they're both doing it both sides are doing it they both want to be winning the Monopoly game and it's just like yeah I think you're right it's like we need to get some of that money out of there to lower their power level I I don't think that the right's doing it any less than the left is um and I I think that they they do just as good of a job at perpetuating it in different ways you know they they they both have their own ways of doing things on the left and right side for sure when it comes to um yeah that flow of money and stuff like that feel like Republicans can be more blatant about doing it the Democrats can sometimes bled blatant blatant blatant oh blatant BL uh are more open about it but all right that was a good stream it was a good debate should we uh kept your should we should we bring it should we bring it all in and give a group sniff one more sniff I kind got a heada in the middle oh okay yeah I start to it Bobby I know you want to eyeball it the whole timey for the last 10 minutes I have I've been like looking at it long it's a lot of fun well signing off good luck America see good luck Amer