Richard Grenell on More Funding for Ukraine

based on your answer a moment ago my guess is you'd be pretty hard no on expanding NATO to include Ukraine because that's a conversation that of course some people have been having yeah um look that I mean these are difficult uh you know discussions and certainly you're going to have to look at all of these issues um what I've looked at for Ukraine I have not talked to president Trump this is just my personal opinion um when you look at Minsk or Minsk 2 um there are some good elements in there but they uh obviously it fell short it collapsed because the Russians uh signed up and obviously weren't that serious about their commitments and so you're going to have to have an enforcement mechanism you're going to have to look at um you know all of the issues but I I think that in Minsk there was this kind of good concept that we should build upon which is territorial integrity with autonomous zones autonomous regions I think that's a creative way um obviously it's about enforcement and it's about the details but I think that's a good start for an off-ramp potentially diplomatic off-ramp yeah you need look the diplomats need to be talking about this issue more than a year ago the Chinese came up with a um a peace plan and I'm very clear I about China but that peace plan was decent and it should have been part of a discussion immediately it wasn't perfect I wouldn't have accepted it but it was a good start and even zelinsky's first words about it I saw this within the hour of the peace plan being um announced his first words were wow the Chinese believe in territorial Integrity for Ukraine uh he wanted to engage on that and the White House was like no be quiet War more fun for war and you know it's all this war talk and I just thought wow the diplomats have completely been shoved off the stage and if I were a European I'd be furious because they're playing with war in my neighborhood and it's all the only discussion we're talking about is how much more money are you going to give to keep this war going and there's no one who is being belligerent about a peace plan and we need that