WALLS. WHO DO YOU TRUST TO FLY THIS PLANE? FORMER DIRECTOR OF SPEECHWRITING FOR PRESIDENT OBAMA AND COHOST OF POD SAVE AMERICA JOHN FAVREAU. AS A SPEECHWRITER, HOW IMPRESSED ARE YOU WITH MY COPILOT ANALOGY? >> IT WAS A LITTLE HARD TO FOLLOW. HOW DID I GET HERE? >> Jesse: DO YOU KNOW YOUR OWN FONTS RIGHT NOW? >> I WAS JUST SITTING AROUND AND SUDDENLY I ENDED UP HERE. >> Jesse: WE MUSCLED YOU UP HERE AGAINST YOUR WILL AND NOW YOU HAVE TO ANSWER SOME OF OUR QUESTIONS. YOU REALLY THINK THAT YOU CAN JUST DO THIS HOPE AND A CHANGE THING ON KAMALA? DO YOU THINK PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BUY THAT? >> PEOPLE ARE PRETTY EXCITED ABOUT HER. THIS IS THE MOST EXCITED CONVENTION I'VE SCENE. I'VE BEEN SINCE 2004. >> Jesse: WERE YOU AT THE RNC IN THE WALKIE? >> I WAS. A LITTLE COCKY THERE. >> Jesse: WE DIDN'T REALLY KNOW WHO WE WERE RUNNING AGAINST >> YOU WERE FIGURING OUT HOW BIG THE ELECTORAL LANDSLIDE WAS GOING TO BE AND EVERYONE IS GETTING A LITTLE NERVOUS. >> Jesse: [ SIMULTANEOUS TALKING ] >> Jesse: I DON'T THINK YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT TRUMP. DO YOU THINK YOU CAN TAKE KAMALA AND MAKE HER THE HOPE AND CHANGE CANDIDATES? YOU CAN DO THIS WITH THAT -- WITH ANY CANDIDATE? SHE WAS VERY UNPOPULAR A MONTH AGO. >> IF YOU LOOK NOW SHE'S PRETTY POPULAR AND I THINK THAT SHE IS -- IT'S A PRETTY CLOSE RACE PICTURE'S MAYBE AHEAD BY A POINT OR TWO BUT I THINK IT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO BE A CLOSE RACE AND SHE'S GOING TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TONIGHT TO TALK TO THE COUNTRY, LAYOUT HER VISION, TALK ABOUT WHY WE DON'T WANT TO GO BACK TO TRUMP AND WE DON'T WANT TO GO BACK TO THE TEN YEARS OF DONALD TRUMP IN OUR LIVES JUST WHINING AND COMPLAINING ABOUT EVERYTHING ALL THE TIME. >> Jesse: HE'S COMPLAINING BECAUSE YOU GUYS ARE THROWING HIM IN PRISON. SO LET ME ASK YOU A SERIOUS QUESTION. IS SHE GOING TO DO THE FOX DEBATE? >> SHE'S GOING TO DO THE DEBATE THEY AGREED TO ON ABC. >> Jesse: YOUR GUY OBAMA WENT ON FOX A LOT. >> THEY ARE GOING TO DO THE ABC DEBATE. THEY WILL DO THE NBC DEBATE. >> Jesse: IS THAT CONFIRMED? >> THEY SAID THAT IN A STATEMENT THEY WOULD DO THE ABC DEBATE. >> Jesse: WE HAVE THESE DEBATES LOCKED IN, WHAT IS SHE RUNNING ON? 'S. >> SHE'S RUNNING ON A PLAN TO BRING DOWN COSTS, UPLAND TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE FUNDAMENTAL RIGHT TO CHOOSE IN THIS COUNTRY PROTECTED FOR EVERYONE. >> Jesse: WHY ISN'T SHE DOING IT NOW? >> SHE'S GOING TO BUILD 3 MILLION HOMES AND INCENTIVES TO BUILD NEW HOMES. 25,000-DOLLAR CREDIT FOR FIRST-TIME HOMEBUYERS. CHILD TAX CREDIT SO UP TO $6000. >> Jesse: SHE'S SPENDING A LOT OF MONEY, THAT'S WHAT GOT US INTO THIS PLACE. >> YOUR FRIEND JD VANCE LIKES IT TO. >> Jesse: HE'S NOT INTO THAT WHEN HE $5000 CHECK. >> IT'S AN INCENTIVE. A LOT OF FIRST-TIME HOMEBUYERS ARE WORKING THEIR BUTTS OFF. >> Jesse: THEY CAN'T BUY A HOUSE IN THE BIDEN HARRIS ADMINISTRATION. BUT HOW IS SHE GOING TO DO THIS? YOUR GUY RAN ON I'M GOING TO GET OUT OF IRAQ, I WANT HEALTHCARE REFORM. THOSE WERE CONCRETE ISSUES. WHAT IS SHE SAYING? >> A THIRD OF WOMEN ARE LIVING UNDER A TRUMP ABORTION BAN AND I THINK IF SHE WINS AND WE GOT A DEMOCRATIC SENATE AND HOUSE SHE WILL SIGN INTO THE LAW A GUARANTEE THAT EVERYTHING THE WOMAN IN AMERICA WILL HAVE A GUARANTEED RIGHT TO CHOOSE. I THAT'S A PRETTY BIG DEAL. >> Jesse: I GET THAT, IT'S GOOD TO BE BIG AND I UNDERSTAND THAT. >> I ALSO THINK THAT FOR ECONOMICALLY, TRUMP IS GOING TO DO ANOTHER TAX CUT THAT GOES MOSTLY TO RICH PEOPLE AND BILLIONAIRES LIKE DONALD TRUMP SHE DOESN'T WANT TO DO THAT. YOU DON'T NEED ANOTHER TAX CUT, I DON'T NEED ANOTHER TAX CUT. >> Jesse: I DEFINITELY NEED TO TAX CUT. [ SIMULTANEOUS TALKING ] >> Jesse: HOW DIFFERENT IS KAMALA FROM BIDEN? >> Jesse: YOU ARE LAPPING BECAUSE SHE'S A WOMAN AND AN EFFORT EARN IT -- AFRICAN-AMERICAN WOMAN. >> SHE'S PUT OUT PLANS LAST WEEK TO GO AFTER CORPORATE PRICE GOUGING. >> Jesse: DIDN'T BUY DIDN'T DO THAT? >> NOT THE PLAN THAT SHE PROPOSED. SHE WILL HAVE THE FTC GO AFTER THAT SHE WILL HAVE THE HOMEBUYERS TAX CREDIT AND BUILD THESE NEW HOMES. EXTENDING THE CHILD TAX CREDIT AND DOING A LOT OF STUFF. >> HE WAS GOING TO PAST THE CHILD TAX CREDIT. >> Jesse: WHY DIDN'T HE DO THAT WHEN HE HAD THE HOUSE AND THE SENATE? >> THERE WAS A VOTE TO EXTEND IT A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO. SOMETHING MOST PUBLICANS WANT TO DO. THEY THOUGHT IT WOULD HELP JOE BIDEN AND THEY PICK IS GOING TO HELP KAMALA HARRIS. >> Jesse: WERE YOU HAPPY WITH HER NOT COMPETING FOR THIS? DID YOU WANT A MORE COMPETITIVE PRIMARY YOUMAK. >> IT WAS AN OPEN PROCESS AND WITHIN 48 HOURS ALL THE POTENTIAL CHALLENGERS SAID... THEY ALL DECIDED NOT TO RUN. >> Jesse: YOU ARE HAPPY WITH KAMALA HARRIS. BECAUSE OBAMA SAID HE LIKES HER BECAUSE SHE WAS THE BEST LOOKING ATTORNEY GENERAL. IS THAT WHY HE LIKES HER? >> TEN YEARS AGO -- 20 YEARS AGO HE SAID SHE WAS GOOD-LOOKING. HE DID SAY THAT HE'S PRETTY PROUD OF HER AND HE SAID WHEN THE HOMEOWNER PRICES HAVE BEEN -- THERE WAS A HOMEOWNER SETTLEMENT, SHE OUT OF ALL THE ... SHE PUSHED THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION HARDER THAN ANYONE ELSE EVEN THOUGH SHE WAS KNOCKING ON DOORS FOR HIM TO MAKE SURE THAT HOMEOWNERS WHO WERE DEFRAUDED BY BIG BANKS GOT THEIR MONEY FROM THAT SETTLEMENT BECAUSE SHE... >> Jesse: WE LIKE TO PUSH OBAMA AND MANY DIFFERENT WAYS. DO YOU THINK SHE IS A MODERATE OR... >> MAINSTREAM DEMOCRAT. >> Jesse: YOU SAID IT WAS LAUGHABLE THAT PEOPLE WERE CALLING HER MODERATE PERIOD FLASHBACK, FORMER OBAMA SPEECHWRITER HILARIOUS SOME MEDIA OUTLETS CALLING HERE'S A MODERATE. >> SHE'S NOT CENTRE OF THE SPECTRUM, SHE'S MAINSTREAM DEMOCRAT. >> MAINSTREAM DEMOCRATS... WHAT YOU THINK IS FAR LEFT? DO YOU THINK TAX CUTS TO THE MIDDLE CLASS IS FAR LEFT? DO THINK SECURE BORDERS AND A PATHWAY. [ SIMULTANEOUS TALKING ] >> Jesse: I THINK SHE'S FAR LEFT WHEN YOU LOOK AT HER RECORD ON POLICE, ON DRUGS. >> YOU THINK FUNDING. [ SIMULTANEOUS TALKING ] >> Jesse: WE AGREED TO DISAGREE, JON FAVREAU, MY MOTHER LOVES YOU THINK FOR COMING ON.