Rd 13 2018 Bye (Brad Green)

[Music] come on [Music] Dem come on demons come on demons come on Dem come on come on come on come on demon [Music] well good evening everybody and welcome to another edition of the demon L podcast uh my name is Andy and joining me again this week uh great viny good evening great viny how are you I'm excellent uh Andy thank you ah well uh despite the D's uh having a by it's been a big week at demonland uh with the announcement of a new CEO in Gary per uh to replace the retiring Peter Jackson uh in October and uh also with the announcement that the de will be seeking a new home a new training base uh and a new admin facility in the heart of the MCG Precinct and we'll be talking about all that more later tonight shortly we're going to be joined by former Melbourne football club Captain Brad green and I'm really looking forward to that how about you yeah for sure greeny had a great career uh started off um probably with the highest of highs and finished a bit lower given where we were when he eventually bed out but uh uh he was a great player over a long time wasn't he yeah really loved uh really loved uh everything that he did for the club uh he was really exciting when he came in and uh you know great player for the club uh I think he sits seventh on the highest uh games list um you know for the club and uh that's you know got to be respected um y also a skipper so yeah exactly that uh that has its own gloss to it it definitely does um and but before we uh we go we're going to just chat for a little bit before we get Brad on the phone um new CEO Gary per did that must have come as a surprise uh to you I certainly wasn't I don't know for me I wasn't expecting a big name to sort of come in um I think I my money was on I thought they'd go um you know inhouse I thought uh it might have been man but Josh man but yeah I was uh pleasantly surprised and I'm I'm quite quite happy to go with someone who's got um I don't know if the word bit of Gravitas behind him or you know the experience but I think maybe that's what we need uh your thoughts uh well there's no doubt that P's got that in the same way that Peter Jackson does they're both longstanding administrators uh in the capus so um you per comes with the big Club experience that you have uh at Collingwood um now we're a bit different to that so he's going to need to adjust but uh he was able to grow their membership base considerably um whether that was through tricks such as pet memberships and things like that I don't know but we'd want to be doing the same and uh he also developed facilities at uh Collingwood which um uh as he mentioned and we'll talk about a bit later we're um about to commence ourselves so uh it's a it's a good acquisition I think that's that experience uh with um you know he was there at Collingwood uh in the Lexus Center I think it's the Holden center now um and that's definitely going to help us if we're to get a base look we'll talk about our base a bit later on whether that's going to get through or has any chance of getting through but uh we we're definitely looking for a new home and having someone who's had that experience is definitely going to help us and um do you do you have any concerns with uh I mean we don't even know the whole story of uh of how it all happened but are you concerned at all with the fact that um when Peter had announced uh that he was going to be um retiring um that he was going to have a hand in the the the I don't know if it was going to be a hand in choosing a successor um it sounded that way I think but it it it seems from what we've heard that um and I won't say it doesn't sound like the board went behind his back but it it sounds like it was a board appointment and um from what I've read may maybe Peter didn't have a hand in it but I can't see how that could be yeah it's hard to know we don't know the process but um I don't think there's really any resentment anywhere if uh if anything the strangest thing to me is that he groomed three internal candidates to go up against one another um that seems that could be potentially um you know disharmonious for the workplace in that if one gets in the other two Miss but all three have missed in this instance I don't think I don't think that's strange in in a workplace environment though that uh people go up against each other for you're y I'm sure that happens quite a lot uh in business I know I've been for you know up for jobs where other people within the organization have also gone for it so um it's certainly nothing new um I hope there isn't any bad blood between anyone and you know hope we don't lose any of the talent as result of this and I'm not suggesting we will and that that journo Tom Morris he was on on the couch uh on Monday night and he said he'd been talking to people in the club and outside of the club and there was bad blood and people were going to withdraw money and then a second later he said but if I was you if uh for all the demon fans out there don't be worried it uh doesn't look like any of this is going to eventuate and it's like well what kind of a story is that um so saying on the one hand that there was uh all this acrimony behind the scenes and then dismissing it um out of hand a moment later yeah I think if there had been real descent we would have known about it by now um there's been these mutterings in the background barely um so I don't think there is any any bad blood there well look I I I think a few Jos sort of jumped the gun a bit uh at the beginning with um you know I think the story broke I think in the Australian and I think there were a few um reporters who had and the majority of them had no idea and they sort of were sort of I think they were struggling to try and find a story out of it and were probably just looking at the fact that Peter Jackson had said you know he did want a hand in it and I think they were just uh find trying to find a story where none existed as um as a lot of journalists sometimes do well when you get baaten on a story like that you have to find uh you have to find a fresh angle to it um no one wants to um just rewrite what the competition has broken exclusively so you've got to add your own little source to it um or embellishment and so yeah as you say they're sort of scratching around for a new angle to it all right well maybe we can uh revisit that a little bit later on uh we're just going to take a short little break now um you'll probably be hearing either um our interview with ruie or um the 2000 qualifying final uh against the blues uh while we get Brad on the phone but uh when we come back uh we'll have Brad green stay tuned SWS might go to the square now he goes for the pass and it's good to Green he's closer to goal this time Ste phoe away then running downwards half forward they need some marking forwards green has been the best of them and he's marked it again well he stands with a margin at 15 and now it's reduced what a kick from The Young green comes out to Bruce he's over the ball green surrounded very slick Mansfield kicks into a teammate this time it comes back to green he snaps it he's fourth but I think he's got it for since Hal time our guest tonight kicked 350 goals in in 254 games with the demons over 12 Seasons making his debut in early 2000 his career got off to a flying start and he lived out every boy's dream later that season when he virtually won a final off his own boot against the blues he Ked 55 goals during a Stell 2010 year uh a season in which he won the Keith Bluey Truscott trophy as the club's best and fairest he captained the demons the following year I'm talking uh of course about Brad green greeny welcome to the demonland podcast good evening how you going guys yeah we're good uh Brad uh Brad it was a career with um many highs and a few lows thrown in there too uh let's start with one of the real high points at least in our eyes as supporters what we just heard now the qualifying final against Calton in your debut year um the game looked lost at 3/4 time uh take us through that final quarter and you know describe the emotions that you experience as it unfolded yeah it's it was a bit of a um a whirlwind I still remember sort of making my debut in uh was round two um in 2000 against the Kangas on on Friday night fo0 if you remember round one I think we got beaten by Richmond I think was round one um that year and you know going throughout the year you you're you're nervous in keeping your spot back then don't about 90 rotations let alone 20 so I was sat on the bench quite a fair bit for Dennis um and it was the same in that Colton final I I don't remember really playing much of the first half of that game and um coming on in the second half trying to to stem the flow in in uh in certainly a big game for for the footy club and um yeah it was was a bit uh a bit surreal in in the way it's all happened and um you know you think back on on what you sort of um did on the day and and you really think geez um it was was a bit of a fluke really I couldn't couldn't imagine doing it again and trying to do it again but it was an amazing day um I still remember um going into the last quarter the noise of you know I remember 75 there and was was certainly louder than Grand final day so um yeah it was it was fond memories and certainly something that I cherish and one of the games that you look back upon over your career and go um you know you can certainly um think think back on it was one of the true games that um you had a big impact in um Cameron Bruce was the star that day um your careers obviously um sort of well took place over the same period and from that afternoon at least in supporter's eyes you were basically intertwined um sort of ever since were you good mates off the field um uh and uh how was it sort of going having your careers going through together like that yeah we were well we are and we were um we both in each other's bridal party at each at each other's wedding so yeah with great mates and still great mates um today but you know getting drafted in the same year um as Cam and sort of you know socializing um playing golf and and sort of coming through it the the same time um yeah and and playing in the same side and sort of in the same area we yeah we're great mates and still great mates today so um it's it's even more special when you can and um you know cherish those moments with with close friends yep uh we've asked the same question of Jeff White and Robo what were your expectations going into the Grand Final that year uh did you think we were a realistic chance of knocking off um the bombers who were almost underfeed uh yeah think a um a Brash 18y old thinking that you know he's made a good AFL footy made a grand final my first year I thought we could beat King Kong that day didn't matter who we're coming up against I thought we could take the game out you know when you're looking um I still remember I think it was round 11 round 12 when Caron bet Us by 120 OD points um that year in 2000 and we didn't lose a game and when you looking at um going going through a season you know we would certainly down in certain stages towards the end of the year and would get back up and and and win but certainly the bombers when you look back at their side and the names that they had um all superstars in their side but we were still confident I'm very confident going the game but um it was was was a bit of a uh bit of a kick kick down when you you see the end result there's no doubt about that it was a bad loss in the end but certainly confident going into the day yep it was a bit of a dirty day all around it's it's it and it almost became life-threatening uh day for you uh you CED a nasty whack in the throat in the first quarter um is it true that you couldn't breathe because of the swelling and uh you had to be put on oxygen yeah so what happened people keept um thinking was uh B to the dean Wallace punch in in the face that um that did it but that didn't actually hurt me it was the first bounce of the day um W he hit hit the tap um I come come off a center forward and was charging Dean Wallace picked the ball up and he rose raised his elbow to sort of fend me and his elbow went straight into my Lars and throughout the first quarter um it started swelling and started sort of compressing together and qu Tom I said to the doc I can't breathe and I sent me down to the change rooms and and put me on oxygen and basically they're ready to do a tracking so they're ready to punch a hole in the throat to release and um ended up in hospital that night but um yeah it was sort of fing a couple of days after that but um yeah it wasn't a nice way to sort of end you your grandf final day only playing a quarter but um yeah it was um was one of those things that happens in footy after making uh the granny um in your first year did you think that the team was headed for it this sustained period of succcess considering the other drafter that had come through with you such as uh such as Cam and Matty wheen and others yeah I I I'd really thought you know and we we probably the side that we had was certainly wasn't the most talented side during that sort of 2205 period but will the cohesion um and the gel that we had the makeship that we had for each other was was certainly um terrific Bond um and we you know we went on a bit of a roller coaster there for a number of years up and down up and down and that consistency wasn't good enough and and that probably uh will got overwhelmed by T the end but for a number of years we we'll sort of hedging top four for most of the year and then we always lose a couple crucial games um towards the end of the year which which sort of knocked us down a couple of pegs but you know I thought we we always confident um and never threatened by a lot of sides but you know back then there were some amazing team you look back on the eans and the Brisbin when they went through um B repeat um certainly strong sides coming coming through and um yeah we thought we were good enough at different stages but certainly in the end we probably weren't consistent enough um Brad must have been fun playing in that forward line with Nita Schwarz The Whiz Robo Bruce and yourself uh there's quite a bit of talent in there yeah there was um when you looking at playing um against the wiiz you don't know what he was going to do every every game he played but what the exceptional Talent you know it was amazing playing alongside him Robo you didn't know if Robo was going to sit on your head or um knee in the back and and same with Neer I you played a lot of footy with Neer next to him and um yeah playing with those and even you know schw cam Bruce um it was certainly a multi-talented forward line that you know we we look to challenge um our opponents but yeah great fun we had great fun playing that down there and I was certainly talented yeah you played a lot of footy in the Midfield as well as uh spending a lot of time up forward everyone loves kicking a goal of course um what was your preference if you had one um I used to basically I reckoned through the period of about 06 to certainly 2011 I recognize basically 50/50 of going sort of Midfield Wing forward love the flexibility that I that um we had during that and um yeah I I certainly enjoy getting up the ground because it's can be a bit of a groundhog day in the forward line um you know tough conditions not getting a kick getting up around the ball um trying to trying to work it that way getting back in defense taking marks and being doing what you can getting around stoppages so I preferred sort of you know the 50-50 split um of both playing sort of Midfield and forward um which was good Brad you had a pretty good conversion uh rate uh you know in front of goal uh is that something you'd always been part of your game or did you have to work on that to become a sharpshooter it was something I was certainly always worked on um I would you know have 100 shots a week at training um you know even on my day off i' would go down to my local um ground and and still practice kicking so something you certainly had to work on but it's certainly something that hasn't changed in modern footy um you get frustrated why they can't kick straight and different things and there's all different circumstances why they can't but um yeah I I believe was always it's it's a massive mining goaly it's it's fair bit mental yeah you got to have good technique and and ability to to kick fairly well but um if you can get the mind right and I was always confident no matter where I was inide 50 I could kick it now it's half about a yeah another feature of your game um especially uh playing up forward in later Seasons saw you risking life and limb by backing into packs uh or holding your ground as a defender came flying at you from behind during those moments do you ever think to yourself I'm in trouble here this is this is going to hurt no I used always think the moment I think that is when I probably did get hurt the the moments where you think that you're just going to go for this ball you know it would end up that you you'll fine majority of the time and um and deep down um you always wanted to do that and be seen to be um setting the scene and and doing um the tough things that they need to be done and and certainly that was one feature of my game that I proud myself to be able to go back with a SL of the ball um and take a strong contester Mark so you don't want to let people down by um not doing that and I always had that in my back of my mind that if I was going to go I was committed to to going yeah you were uh you given the captaincy in 2011 after James McDonald retired and you've described being named captain as a surreal experience uh what did you mean by that and looking back uh what did it mean for you to lead the oldest footy club in the world yeah certainly great honor um I think the real for meaning for me is you never go into any footy Club thinking that one day going to Captain you know go you go through early stages in your career and you want to get picked and then you want to you know stay in the side and um captaincy was certainly one of that wasn't a big aspiration of mine and then you eventually get into the leadership group you start setting the scene and um you're working your way up and then all of a sudden um the captaincy sort of you know I was an elder state with a young side and um you know basically I didn't trying to change who I was um a lot of it was leading by example but I'm trying to pick the young guys you know the the standards of of training um being being you know trying to create a great culture that would sustain for a long period of time and that's all I meant by that um because it shouldn't change the person that you are um it just means you go do a few more things uh granny after playing finals regularly in the early part of your career uh Dark Days came to the club after Neil danaher finished up um how hard was it during those times especially you know in your final season when uh virtually all hope had sort of been extinguished yeah there's certainly some uh some trying moments um the club was going through um different stages um where you know I was coming towards the end and we were trying to win as many games as possible and um we buttered heads a little bit during all that tring period and yeah was certainly I think you know supporters felt it players felt it admin people felt it we all felt it that it was um wasn't a great period in in our career and but I I felt you know when did Dean came in Dean came in you start of O8 um I yeah I8 to when he did I thought 07 I think yeah i7 was his first year um I thought BS was certainly after new I thought BS was a terrific coach I thought seriously that he was um he was ahead of the game in the way he he you know he T us offense people thought that he didn't teach us defense but he wanted to create um one um a brand of footy that would bring supporters to the game to being an exciting side um and when we had players like lamb jar and Austin W and Aaron Davey um you know I still remember remember that by 8 points um and it was certainly a really young side and we're playing terrific 40 and you know to see him get sack was certainly hard to deal with um so through that period I thought we're building something um and I reckon that was one of the worst decisions the club could ever made was getting rid of Dean B there's no doubt in my mind that he he was the right man to take the club you know to its next Premiership and in the end um it's sort of unfortunately um he's still not here with us but he was certainly a poor decision by the club getting rid of him there's no about that and yeah it was dark days you know the my last year footy um under under Mark NE was wasn't great um and you know it was probably the right circumstances that I had to sort of step away really and let the club sort of go in a New Direction and new future really um that's sort of how it panned out and and um yeah sort of you you would love to be Shane Crawford in you8 and and walk away with a flag but it was it wasn't my time was um something um that you can say that it was it was the right time to step away and let someone else take over and take it in a New Direction Brad was what is it was it a kick in the guts when Mark Neil came in and replaced you as Captain or is that just one you have to cop on the chin and move on um no I wasn't a kicking a gut so I I questioned why we're putting a couple of um young kids into a position of of certainly um those roles um I asked the process on on how they did it I questioned that um but it was certainly there's no disappointment I was full support behind gmy and watsy there's no doubt um I was right behind them it was just you know to put that much pressure on a couple of young kids when they're only starting their careers um and and thinking that um it was the right decision um yeah in ha a funny thing but at the time was certainly I wouldn't have made that decision doing it that way um and yeah it it certainly um was was I asked a couple of questions why it was going down that path then that's um just me being a senior player on on what direction I trying to take and that's the direction I wanted to take doing it with youth um and that's what they they saw the direction forward that way well well Paul ruse agrees with you we uh interviewed him last week and he um labeled that decision as being ludicrous so you're in pretty good uh company there yeah oh um you know when you're talking of you know positions of of not power but when you're trying to create cultures and create um um good clubs good strong clubs don't make decisions on a whim um and I just felt for them more than anything it had nothing to do with me I was still a player still a senior player to to it out Down lead was just more I was trying to support them when they didn't really you know they didn't really know their own game they had to cement their own spots their own form get that into order before they you give positions of of power um like that and you know I I still reckon it hurt their careers no doubt yep yeah I don't think you be the Lan Ranger there you to you mentioned Dean Bailey um a moment ago how close were were you with him um I suppose off field away from footy uh and how hard was his passing um uh four years ago yeah I was I was um yeah very close um you know the communication that you got to have between a captain and a coach um is is quite high on most clubs on the communication that you know the coach doesn't know everything that's happening in the playing group and the captain sort of and the leadership group do um so yeah there's always questions to be asked um seeing how we're going you know do he he certainly ask us say you know how do we play on the weekend can we change training how are the boys feeling are we tired and I think that's an ongoing conversation and great cultures that coach and player relationship and Captain relationship and Leadership relationship needs to happen and good clubs do it and doom was certainly one of those guys and he was a a bit of a guy that you could turn around to and have a conversation you know always asking how my family was and vice versa so yeah we did have a great relationship um and sad you know the the the passing of him and um you just feel deeply um sorrow for for Karen and the and the boys that that he's got so yeah it was was a tough time um and yeah it certainly a a coach that shouldn't shouldn't never have lost his job Brad um I won't ask the obvious question that everyone always asks you so I'll phrase it this way are you sick of every interview you've ever had asking you about uh your training with Manchester United it's uh yeah it's certainly one of the questions that I get asked probably 100% of the time um and being the World Cup that's on at the moment keeping an eye on that but it's look it was a part of my life that happened and um one that um I'll cherish and something that I did and um yeah I he uh yeah was a was part of my life but was a terrific opportunity and yeah it was it was great these things have a um have a habit of taking a life of their taking on a life of their own and um I think in some circles people probably said that you were just um not far off um you know kicking a winner in a Champions League final um you were that good um you're also you're also a pretty talented Junior cricketer um and basketballer how close were you to committing yourself um to a sport other than fooy yeah it was basically Draft Day 99 um November 99 I uh I came over to Melbourne for the draft and I basically the week um leading into the draft I had a um Cricket contract to go to the Adelaide Cricket Academy and work on the rod Marsh um so basically what was going to happen um I was going to get drafted and that was my number one priority and if it didn't happen in 99 I was going next day jump on the plane to R and go to the GRE Academy so it's it's amazing sort of how ball pans out um one if I sort of had it in my mind if one decision didn't go my way I had another already to go um yeah so I was I love my Cricket I was a a batter and left-hander um but yeah it was I don't regret I certainly AFL was certainly the game I love playing and and still wish I could um after your playing career you were an assistant coach of both Carlton and North uh did you enjoy your time as a coach and is that something you may may continue to pursue in the future yeah I loved it it was a um I think the closest thing you get to playing is coaching you still feel a part of the team culture um Team aspect but there's not nothing like running out on game day as a player but the ability on game day to and feeling that you get when win and lose is still the same feeling yeah um on when you're sitting in the coach's box you just can't have a physical um influence on the game um we coaches still have massive inflence on game and um and probably too much now I'm out out of the coaching say that they have too much influence on the game and the way they structure up rather than let players play a little bit um but it's it's yeah it's something that I stepped away at the end of um last year and um in the back of my mind I never wanted the be senior coach um I had five years being an assistant coach at two um great clubs working under you know Mick Carlton and then Brad Scott at North was something that um I'll cherish because I I love the opportunity working at different clubs and seeing how they operate um seeing how players go about their business and and trying to teach players um was was very rewarding and see that happened on Game Day so down the track I certainly don't see myself um being the a of senior coach would I get back into coaching at some point in life yeah maybe because I I've got the passion for the Outfield game and that might be local or might be back in af land but um I won't be going anywhere I still love the game and um I'm enjoying taking my two boys and um sitting in the outer and having a beer and a pie um cheering on the de this year it's been great fun um I I noticed that um uh you know you played mostly your career as a forward and a midfielder but I noticed at North you were the defensive uh coach how did that how does that come I've seen a few assistant coaches who didn't play in a certain position sort of take the opposite line as a as a coach how does that come about yeah it was um it was certainly an opportunity that Brad said um we want you to coach the back on and um I think modern day coaching is a bit like um men managing structures and game plans in a process rather than teaching them the you know what I don't need to teach car and Scott Thompson and Michael fero um how to defend one-on-one because they're pretty good um so you know with those guys I'm working I a pretty core senior guys down there you're looking at Damen McMillan and um Luke McDonald Sam R so I had a pretty cool group of of talented players that that knew how to play defense was teaching them more to how to play in our structure and the way we wanted to play um and working with them um as people trying to get the best out of them and and communicate them that way I think coaching is all about sort of teaching and and helping them and having empathy about the player themselves and that's getting them out there and trying to to get the best out of them so rather than teaching Lobby tent who probably should be an all Australian Defender had one-on-one very rarely would I say what are you doing there Robbie what technique did you have because I got no idea how to defend um he would teach me so yeah it's certainly more about the process the structure um and style that we and team defense is very big part of um the defensive systems and coaches um role that they need to do so it's a bigger picture rather than an individual Style on how how to go about it granny we got one final question for you uh and we've been uh we are very grateful for uh for your time there's been a lot of discussion about the future of footy in Tasmania uh and the health of the state League there what do you think needs to happen to reinvigorate um the game uh does there need to be a standalone team Standalone Tasmanian team in the AFL yeah I've been pretty passionate when uh I saw what was sort of happening over the last couple of years that you know the state wasn't producing any any tunnel the Juniors and going draft that something needs to happen um and speaking to a lot of tasmanians and I'm down there a fair bit still because I got family and friends and go watch a lot of local footy that things need to change and it's a good thing that it's come toe it's probably been too long in the AFL just thought that um we'll keep sort of coasting along um but we're not doing enough down there and IFL um funding and the AFL um actually putting investing some time into that they haven't been good enough I think the biggest call that they need to do is get back into a and have a tazzy Mariners team which I came through um a team that's playing in the attack cup and under in system look at their full development programs down there they're under 18s through to you know under 10 where working on their coaching and structures and the way that the talent Pathways is is the biggest area I see that they need to change is first point of call um you know Statewide 40 has certainly been um down in the standard that the the guys are playing he's not great standard but I still think it's it's viable if they they work hard and and and invest doing their own AFL team I've been sort of I haven't been on the on the on the team of they definitely need one I think over time they deserve one there's no doubt they deserve one but can I see it working they probably work better than Gold Coast and gws but it's never going to happen with the investment of TV rights and the power of the regions that Gold Coast and GW wrest in So at the end of the day it all comes down to money and TV rights and all that do I think they deserve it yeah they do you know n team um in tesy sounds right to me but can I think it will happen I don't ever think will happen um in the next little bit but over time I reckon you know they should have a team uh greeny Before I Let You Go you mentioned you got two boys how far off are they uh from uh donning the boots uh for the D's yeah got uh Oliver is eight and uh my youngest boy Wilbur is five so um both passionate melbour boys um Ollie even cried last Queen's birthday which I did too did L um but yeah he's passionate d man which is great just seeing you know your boy um so um emotionally invested in in um a team um he loves the boys I think his favorite players are Jesse Hogan and and Jonesy and and still trying to tell him that Dad actually played with Jones he still can't um get that through for him but he's sort of he loves it it's great great thing to see the boy be passionate about a club that you play for so yeah um he's eight and footy so U which is all good great well thank you very much for joining us uh tonight Brad we really appreciate it and um yeah go de and um yeah thank you very much no worries guys thank you all right cheers well that was uh that was Brad uh green former Melbourne captain and uh champion of the club and uh yeah thank you to Brad for for that time that he's given us uh that was a great inter yeah good Insight um you know to to his career and sort of you know sort of disappointing that you know from all of us as supporters uh you know sort of the end of end of the career and the state the team was in at the time and uh yeah he's had a few interesting things to say about that time didn't he yeah um and you know what that ba that Bales should never have been sacked um and also just that comment about uh Bales being very consultative yes on things like training which uh um uh it wasn't viewed too sort of favorably um you know on the boards um in terms of players cancelling their own sessions and cancelling certain sessions and things like that so interesting yeah definitely and um yeah I mean you know his end of career was in that real dark period um and it's yeah it's best that uh we forget that and move on to uh you know bigger and better things which hopefully we're starting to uh and I think we have come out of that uh but still a long way to go yep all right uh so we'll move moving right along if uh you would like to join us on the show tonight uh you can give us a call 03 91636 or you can Skype US demonland 31 um we'll take your call um so we mentioned the new CEO but uh we also briefly mentioned the new training uh facility uh story that came out this week do you think there's any chance that we could possibly get that uh that parcel of land on the footsteps of the MCG basically uh potentially uh it won't be easy because there'll definitely be opposition to it from various quarters uh any project like that um has got local you know mainly local interests that are sort of protecting it on various fronts environmental and Aesthetics and Parkland and Heritage and trees and things like that so there'll be all sorts of opposition to it you can guarantee that uh but you'd you'd hope that the club um is sort of yeah wise enough that it doesn't sort of go hasn't come out full ball without getting some sort of indication that it's um it's a possible uh you know it's a possibility of getting through so I suppose we going to wait and see So So the plan is they want to well from what came out the other day uh they want to put a training oval on that uh bit of land uh if anyone I think it's the area if anyone went to the U Family Day this year um it's on that bit of land um which is quite a sloping land so they obviously have to do a bit of works there to sort of flatten it out and then they want to build a club headquarters uh behind that uh over the um I think it's a tram line there um yeah that's uh no it's train is that train oh yeah yeah there is the train but there's yeah that's right but then there's a TR behind go behind they wanted to put it over the thing and I think it's going to be a multi-purpose type of thing with perhaps residential Apartments I'm sure they'll have some shops or something and offices obviously and gym and all the football facilities do you think deanland will be moving its headquarters there I list on the website I've list uh Brunton Avenue as our address so yes there you go so we stay tuned for more details folks yeah um um yeah that um look I hope that we can get some type of facility in that MCG area it would be a yeah wouldn't it yeah but it look it seems like that's the what the what the board and what the admin sort of is G gunning hard to do at the moment and you know Peter Jackson you know if he can pull this off or even pie after that um that would be a coup for sure yeah and there's all kinds of ways to dress these things up as assets to the community and you can open up certain parts of the facility to the public um when the club's not using them so uh you can have you know all kinds of things based out of there Richmond have got an indigenous um you know an indigenous program running out of theirs um I think even Nev might be involved with the program running out of there but um so there's there's all sorts of ways to uh yeah to sort of present this and develop it and cook it up in a way that satisfies the needs of the various parties that are going to have to sign off on it along the way well let's hope we can get that uh done um yeah would would definitely be exciting um uh another I did right in the thread um I understand the people that want to protect the Aesthetics of the park I think it's great one of the real features of the G is that it is surrounded by like you know largely very nice Parkland um you go to to similar size stadiums around the world and they're concrete jungles and so that's one of the really nice things about the G is when you're walking to the ground uh you're walking through Parkland so um from what I've read on the thread the plan um actually would involve very minimal disruption to to sort of that kind of aesthetic so that would be great too well I know I know just in in my own uh business stuff that I've been involved in over the years whenever you're developing a site uh the trees and uh how many trees you have to knock down is always a big concern for councils and obviously interest groups uh you know environmental groups but um look the the bit of land that they're looking at is fairly just uh I mean there's trees surrounding it but it seems like there'd be minimal impact to that and there are sort of ways around that in plant replanting and and stuff like that so H it would be really nice to to have a venue uh close to our home and um I think that's what you know I think what we've lacked over the last 50 years is having a home um you know the G super Mardo had a good suggestion too that they need to build in Social Club facilities that Overlook the train line and like a balcony where we can taunt opposition supporters as they leave the ground so uh I like that idea too does the whole social club culture even exist anymore um like it did in the 80s and it doesn't but I think if if you did have a facility that is literally at the ground in the car park uh I think it would work I think uh there's enough people that would definitely um go to the club's venue after the game after a win for sure what do Richmond do I remember they used to have a nightclub I think in that uh that P Road thing but do they do that now what not the nightclub aspect of it but um I think s used to run the most famous nightclub back in the 80s out at moravan so um and look at how that look at how they perform during that time I don't know what the what this what the bar situation is at punt Road overal I mean there is there is obviously one there do supporters do supporters go back there after a game but I notic have you ever noticed that sometimes their Shop is open yeah it is open on their G dur our games when Richmond aren't playing oh really be playing Hawthorne and their shops open for some reason always looks busy no I've I've noticed I noticed the other week when we were leaving the ground I noticed there was a game on Richmond reserves game so maybe when their resies play notic that possibility I I noticed there's a a quite a nice hot dog stand uh if you're coming off the train from the Richmond station walking up to the G um they got a someone's opened up a hot dog stand in front of it um you can get a buggy up to the ground now as well from yeah but I feel a bit bad it seems like that that's there for people who can't walk I think I'd be very lazy if I uh decided to take uh to take one of those up to the ground in you know considering I'm quite mobile myself so but I I think that's a a good uh a nice service yep um all right so that's um that's the plans for um for the training facility admin facility um hope hope we get something or or or something similar in the area um another piece of news that uh that dropped and I haven't heard any anything official about this yet uh but it's just sort of rumors circulating mainly well only on demon lanks I haven't seen it uh anywhere else at the moment but that's about the Darwin the possibility of uh the Darwin game being dumped from our M Northern Territory uh package that is that is more than rumors circulating my friend that is absolutely rolled gold solid um information that uh so finally demonland broke a story after um 18 years in the business so what do you know Ean Ethan would take uh would take a with that being the big trade breaker um online so I'd be careful what you say there okay has he broken anything official I know uh he's in the chat room no no no this is more in just than in anything else although he'd probably uh probably reject that as well but uh um you obviously haven't been paying sort of close attention to the way he promotes himself as a big trade breaker all right yeah I don't notice everything that goes on on the site um but uh need to get get more immersed in the community well I do but uh there a lot of moving parts to this side I I have to keep it up and running we haven't had any pro since we've moved to the new server things are running smoothly and uh there's no problems there but I'm always tinkering with stuff with the look and feel of the site you probably notice changes all the time uh new new little things added but uh you know that's that's sort of an ongoing process but uh anyway so the story he did just to give you an idea of the type of news that he breaks he did post in someone's uh in one Thread about someone's contract status that they were prepared to sign a contract and keep playing football so he breaks news of that sort of variety if you like um stop the presses kind of stuff so so the the D back to the Darwin thing if we're if we're finished with Ethan so the um the the story is that the club has no issues with the Alice component and we very happy with the heart of the Nations thing which which was great because Channel 7 went full bore with that which was great um and was good for the club um you know but the humidity of The Da match and the flow on effects from the following week is as as was broken in this story uh is uh you know too high a price uh to pay uh and I'm not sure if you we uh when we when super madoo and I were interviewing rusey I think Super madoo tried to get from ruie um which he would prefer I think was uh wanted I think Super Mado wanted ruie to say ditch the Darwin thing he he didn't say that uh he sort of didn't give a one way or the other which one you would uh get rid of uh but I would think if I'm looking at it you want to get rid of that uh the commity of Darwin um I think that's the way we should be going um the Alice game the club sees as a game like no other the conditions are very similar to what we'd play in at the start of the Season at the G when it's still quite Pleasant um and you can have a very sunny day for football I think it a little bit hot um this year for the Darwin game but that was an unusual day um and I think the club has routine now for Alice set in place and they're very comfortable in that routine not saying they don't have a routine for Darwin but um obviously the humidity makes it a completely different um a completely different game to the to the one in Alice and there's also the travel Factor um I actually travel to Darwin a fair bit and it's it's a bit like traveling overseas um you got to go via cans um often you got to go VI cans and then on to DAR but even direct it feels sometimes like a bit of an international flight so um I understand yeah well we all understand where the club's coming from and most supporters would have been have been urging the club to to ditch the whole NT deal for for years now yeah look I I look I understand the financial aspect ECT of it um I understand the community aspect of it for Alis Springs but it does you know it's effectively giving up uh two home games against Interstate clubs which um could be seen as two wins um if you well say the AFL is now prepared to give us the buy um uh after the Darwin game but that means that the Darwin game has to be played in like now like in these middle rounds which upsets the concept of the Alice Springs game which is the heart of the nation game during the Doug Nichols indigenous round so can you not do there's still a bit of Wheeling and dealing to go back and forward but um we're at the point where the afls is prepared to offer up that concession is it is it a case of uh we we have to play both or none or can you can you do I mean Heart Of The Nation obviously doing it in Darwin it's not really hard is is that not considered Heart Of The Nation if you do it up in Darwin is that too no it's not geographically and it's not in that spiritual sense that they're looking for yeah um you can't doesn't work anywhere else that concept do you think uh I don't know if this is just outside the box if you have to keep two would you even consider spending two weeks uh in the NT and playing one game after the other is that too much of a um well then you've got the issue of where's the club training while it's away and you don't have the uh you know not forgetting the ground but you don't have the other facilities that you and resources that you do when you're at your home base so I think that would be the issue wouldn't it yeah yeah stay on stay on the road for for two weeks yeah no uh definitely look I look for me uh if financials weren't uh an issue and we're getting to the well I don't know if we even are getting to the point because considering ditching the pokies uh if we do have to build a facility uh obviously would get a bit of government assistance with with that I would hope so um if we can come to some deal with that uh but money could still be a bit of an issue um yep it's unresolved for the moment it is uh but I have no problem with ditching uh one of them and if we have to choose then Darwin's the one to go uh even if we do get the buy after it um I just want to see my team play footy live so I would love to have those say someone else suggested you could play two games in Alice but then by having such a focus on the heart of the nation one you're then relegating the second one to sort of uh you know secondary slot and that plays it down um you know before you even sort of begin well look from just reading stuff online I posted that story onto uh Facebook and to Twitter and most people uh are in favor of dumping the Darwin game so if the people are speaking they've spoken and I think the darn one from a supporters perspective if we have to have one part of the nation wins out all right uh so uh moving on uh olle wines is off the market uh not that I ever thought uh we' there look there was no way we would be able to you know if he was uh shopping himself around which apparently he hadn't even looked uh according to his management hadn't even looked at any other offers um but there was I we said this a few weeks ago there was nothing I think we could offer in terms of uh trade or draft picks so I I I we don't really need him look he's a great player we could forget the fact that we could have had him already um I'm just so sick of you know you'll get have pick at fence ringing in in a minute because you can't say olle wines without him having a Jimmy tus fit so we need to reopen uh we need to reopen the OE wines Lounge which was set up a few years ago where people can go and uh can can go and vent basically so yeah well I think someone someone needs to bump that uh bump that thread well when that when this story broke that he had resigned um I think I said I think we can close this thread for four four years now because uh yeah the threads will keep on coming and speaking of Ole wines he did the the famous thing that every Club is do does to us these days and some other clubs do it to each other he's come out today and said Melbourne have the best Midfield in the competition and uh they want to take that mantle off us but I I love how opposition players coaches they love to talk us up before they play us um I actually saw that interview CU he I think he was on um 360 uh so they just interviewed him and yeah it's funny what becomes headline I that was just him answering the typically innan questions that are this is just the cycle of news you know um you got to do your interviews and somebody's then got to rewrite them with a headline on them so you got to pick something out of it that's true uh if if you would like to join us 03901 636 or demonland 31 on the Skype we'll take your call love hearing from fellow demon Landers uh injury list uh before that before we go to the injury list uh another injury well it's not another one uh uh poor Cory mayard uh season ending hip surgery um that's the second year in a row he's had uh he's been out you know with injuries so got to feel for the guy um you know this was the year to sort of you know try and break into the team and unfortunately injuries um kept him out of that so um yeah rotten luck absolutely absolutely rotten luck um uh in other injury news uh look still fairly fairly he well with the exception of lever being out for the season now um sort of got pretty much a full list excuse me full list available uh Oscar McDonald has been cleared of the concussion uh that he got um in the Queen's birthday game and uh both Aaron vanderberg and Pat McKenna graced the training track um just the other day so uh good to see them back um still be a number of weeks before either of them um will be fingers fingers crossed for for vanders yeah well we've we've said this on this show that it's uh last roll of the dice uh with him in not in terms of ability but in terms of injuries because you you'd think if he cops another uh injury that that that's it for him um always love love vanders uh playing I was a fan uh so hopefully he can get him his Fitness back up and uh you know playing in the resis and you know making a tilt um you know as we make our tilt towards the finals um speaking of uh finals uh if we want a good chance of making it this is the perfect opportunity it's a it's one of those famous eight-point games this week um you know a win you know Keeps Us solid solidly in that uh top four hunt uh puts Port uh a bit behind us but a loss brings us back to the the pack um so look and all those teams below us have all got relatively easy games on the weekend so a lot of those teams have easy draws going into the end of the season so um and we don't so every game is a must-win game for us uh we've got a bit of an easy a patch sort of coming up but after that um it's it's tough one tough game after the next but I've always said if if you're going to if you want to make finals you want to beat teams in finals you got to beat these teams so got to take care and there's always upsets along the way so we just got to hope that we're not the victims of one of those upsets yeah but you know your sers and your carltons and your Brisbane they knock off the odd team here or there and a long way to go yet it is um uh changes for this week um you think we'll make any changes uh don't think we' don't have any Force changes that uh what do you say this is where we this is where we need to play Simon Says perhaps um and we all you know say what we think Simon says at the selection table uh it's hard to know isn't it yeah I think um you go no well we we we didn't get to talk about about the the Queen's birthday game and as I said last week I think we'll just forget about that uh y we we had a couple of uh well few players just not performing but I don't know look it's it's hard to say whether you know do they drop you I felt peton didn't have a great game this was a game to sort of stamp himself does he stay in do we go back to the Weedman table do we you know yeah I what do we do I think p and should go out and one of Weedman and Smith come in uh I'm tempted to go with the weed but you know Smith was going okay um so yeah I think I think that's likely uh one of one of those two coming in for Peds and then you got the possibility of Tyson coming back and jeta uh sorry um Jeffy garlet is another potential in um and then you have the possibilities of you know Petty and Sam frost coming into the backline so uh who knows what good he's going to do um that one of the one of the did he mention Petty in his in his press conference um he did have a presser the other day I just I can't remember whether he mentioned him we know that petty was uh named in the extended bench for the Queen's birthday didn't didn't get the and Joel Smith got the gig um I was happy with Joel Smith's uh game uh I felt a bit sorry for him towards the end when he had to play on uh that uh man Mountain Cox uh bit of a bit of a funny matchup but what we couldn't really do anything about that at the time um there was a thread uh that I was going to bring up last week uh but we after the rosy interview we didn't have any anyone available to discuss with me um but pet tra there was a threat about Peta that he's in a bit of a rut would you what would you do with uh with Peta we all know he's he's a very talented guy and I just don't he probably hasn't been performing and he probably agrees to the level that he'd want to would you would would you we even consider uh dropping someone with Talent like that to the res nope no way it's not like he's being terrible no no just hasn't been brilliant that's right so and fair cop um you know he's only played uh well what's 50 now or something yeah yeah um so no no no no I think I think I'd agree he he was in really good form at the start of the year it's tape it off after the dog bite um but that happens with young kids it does um uh just going by reading stuff on the boards in particular in the thread about the changes um every week we get people and it's always half and half uh people about Vince and uh Lewis whether you can have both of them in the same team yeah for the moment yep yep y yep um don't have any qus with that no no um well if there's nothing else do any anything else um anything else on the boards uh that uh one there is one slight matter of demonland forum housekeeping yes don't report posts with grammar suggestions such as this post needs a question mark at the end of it um because that's not what the reporting systems for I don't recall seeing any of those did I miss did I miss something it was actually a thread that you've created that was reported so it's one of your posts been I one that could be penalized someone reported me for bad someone reported you yes that's also not a wise thing to do the administrators I I don't rule with an iron fist like that um do you want your grammar question well I'd be the first one to admit that my grammar at times isn't great um uh spelling sometimes gets me but I I always blame bad spelling on on auto correct that's the that's my default these days uh so that's an easy out for anyone um yeah well the report feature is if we're talking housekeeping of demonland at the moment uh please use the report feature if if you do see something you don't like rather than pming the the admin uh first of all when you do report a thing we we get a link to the actual thread you're talking about we've had number of times where people have personally messaged us uh mentioning a post but not telling us where it is so it's almost impossible uh to find so yeah please uh use the report feature um any other uh housekeeping uh you want to you want to bring up no no that ought to cover all right so uh we'll be back uh next week I will uh well we I've announced it on the site but next week we'll be interviewing uh Aaron Davey uh exclusively on the demonland podcast very excited about that because um I I loved watching Aaron Davey play um do you remember like when he came into when he came onto the scene just how explosive he was he was chasing you know guys down I'd never seen anything like it um you know was running from you know his defensive pressure was just amazing all over the ground uh you know he was he was he was really exciting for you know the vast majority of his career and he had silky skills and he could do brilliant things and as you say he completely changed the game brought in this element of uh of defensive pressure that hadn't um uh we hadn't seen before but uh you know kicked some silky absolutely silky goals along the way and did some beautiful stuff so can't wait to talk to him also one of my one of my heroes along the journey so yeah very exciting do yourself a favor you've probably seen all the highlights of his but go on to YouTube and just watch some of there's there's there's two things I love there's one where he chases down uh hawthor player I think it was chance baitman uh just came out of nowhere and uh tackled him and not only did he tackle him but he just the ball was dispossessed and he picked it up with silky skills kicked it on left foot and hit a Target and that was Sensational and there's also somewhere online there's uh on YouTube a brilliant uh goal that he kicked um uh yeah I can't remember who it was against but it was just fantastic um so do yourself a favor is that the one where he's tucked up in the members pocket yeah I think so it's in the wed and he goes back and forward and he's dodging and moving and then he's got nowhere left to go and he just kicks a goal and it goes right theary there that one there's also I think one against Foo as well um that's that's Sensational so yeah that's uh something to look forward to next week Aaron Davey on the demon land podcast so um well I guess uh with that uh we'll play oh actually one bit of breaking news we can turn the music apparently uh the state opposition leader who is Matthew guy today said that we Melbourne talking about had more chance of winning a Premiership than getting our project up well if we win a Premiership then I'm happy not to get the project up so uh having said that he's not in power at the moment and uh if news PO is to be believed he won't be in power at the at the next state election either so perhaps his uh perhaps his opinion doesn't matter here do we know who he supports uh it's he's definitely not Melbourne well you would think so after comment like that definitely not Melbourne well I I'll as I said I'll take the premier ship so um if anyone's handing out premierships uh I'll take one of those um well um thank you great viney uh for 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