Packers Total Access Hour 2 | PFF Grades For Eagles Game + Edgerrin Cooper Needs To Start + Jaire...

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we're going to get the screen adjusted where hopefully you can actually see it we've got the PFF grades from the Packers Eagles game here I'm just going to go full screen and see if we can bend this a little bit to where you guys can actually see it so first things first I really like to get into okay what did they do well uh maybe what do they they do not so well what what happened in the game why did it happen here are the PFF grades as a team against the Eagles obviously the Packers lost 34 to 29 overall grade was a 60.3 I'm pretty sure of all the teams that have played up to this point um and if you guys would hit that like button I see we got a bunch of people just jumped in here hit the like button help boost the algorithm help other Packer fans find this channel find this content we appreciate y'all hanging out with us um but overall I think we were the lowest graded team of the four teams that have played right now that that doesn't make a hill of beam if we were the lowest graded team in entire week one listen get look at everything in quarters get a quarter of the way through the season now we look at okay what's the team actually look like because you're G to have ups and downs that if we come out and we grade it out in the 90s overall I'd be saying the same thing guys just one game let's look at it over a quarter Mark okay but 60.3 overall the offensive grade was a 69.4 okay the defensive grade was a 50.7 so PFF suggests the offense carried carried the knot I would wholeheartedly agree with that and I know there's some people that that still don't and they kind of blame the offense for the defense's woes I don't understand that thinking and that's okay we can you know who who's to say I'm right and they're wrong um offensively passing was a 60.7 pass blocking was a 77.7 I mean they really held held up pretty well in pass blockings um that's that was the thing that was so discouraging about Jordan love throwing off platforms so much and the fade away I I want to keep referencing Jake shink said it on Twitter he said man live tweeted during the game which I try not to do unless it's something positive but Jake shink said man Jordan love really drifting out there that's what he meant and you could see it soon as he said I'm Jake's seeing the same thing I am see you know because he's just he's getting too too comfortable with the off platform there was times he didn't need to do it and then he threw a couple of worm burners right just dirted the ball uh there was one PL pass in particular I think it was the Jaden Reed on a Crosser and he just he skipped that thing to him and you could see with his mechanics held on the ball too long got out over his skis kept his finger on the ball too long and tried to put tooo much zip on it you just got to play comfortable I think he'll get comfortable hopefully this injury doesn't set that back too much but passing grade 60.7 uh pass blocking 77.7 receiving grade 63.9 all right running grade 73.2 and run blocking 70.8 the only one I would disagree with there and not necessarily disagree but the one that surprised me I'll just say that would be the Run blocking and and then when you take into consideration how well they run blocked in the second half as opposed to the first half it's probably about right 70.8 so um what's the big eyesore there according to PFF again this isn't everything this is just another tool we can use on the offensive side of the ball the passing grade was what what looked the worst and and you can see it you can see with Jordan the accuracy was off we talked about it all game it's all throughout my notes pass behind should have been caught though pass behind should have been caught you get to about the fourth or fifth one of those okay Jordan's having a bad night it is what it is right so that's your offensive team grades now on the defensive side like we said a 50.7 that's horrible man that's absolutely horrible run de defense grade 52.5 doesn't surprise me because when you switch from a 34 to a 43 the your running defense is going to take a little bit of a hit that's you're going to create more tackles for a loss you're G to create more uh you know pressure on the quarterback because you're playing one Gap out of the base but it doesn't necessarily mean that that's going to help in a running game typically it has a an opposite effect uh that's that's the message we try to get across all obes it's only one game maybe he'll be able to scheme up something a lot better there against Indy tackle grade 62.9 doesn't surprise me um did you guys notice that the new players that were added to this team on defense tackle it's trying to think of how to word this and not sound like a jerk the guys who were missing tackles they were missing tackles last year you know what I'm saying like you you've seen guys J Alexander missed a couple tackles right J Alexander blown blow blew a few uh coverages too one of which was an explosive touchdown like that's that's the home run hitter right there uh but as far as the tackling Xavier McKenna to me looked all right that guy can tackle Javon Bullard looked good other than the one miss tackle where he just glanced off the guy I think he was trying to smack at the ball trying to create a turnover but you you can do that uh but if you're gonna be Charles Woodson lot you better make sure you've you've perfected that because the top priority is to tackle the ball carrier right rather than just trying to punch it out he'll he'll learn from that I like what I seen from Javon Bullard albeit he didn't have a great game but it's like okay it didn't seem too big for him right um Adrian Cooper man when I watch the tape we got to get him on the field that came quick he's healthy now that's obvious got to get his butt on the field I personally think he has an opportunity to be way better than Quay Walker that's just me now what does Quay do well he's great in coverage you got to put him in a position to maximize that edrian Cooper could be great in coverage too man his ability to attack the ball you've seen the burst the first step holy cow Quay Walker has the same physical ability as as uh as uh Cooper Edan Cooper the difference is Quay is hesitant on his run fits and edrian Cooper start stop shoot he shoots his shot and it was only like 11 or maybe 15 snaps but dude he looked like he belonged we got to get his butt on the field I don't care what you got to do and Now's the Time to do it too because everybody's going ah with Jordan out are we gonna win these throw him out there trial by fire let's get it going I think Edan Cooper belongs pass rush grade 61.5 look at here coverage grade 49 .8 that's discouraging because you bring in half coach Halley and I have all the faith in him in the world I think he's going to be a good defensive coordinator but I expected that number to be what carried the defense it's actually what drug us down you know so uh again the players got to go out there and make the plays I I didn't find ourselves many times in a situation where it's like oh that was scheme there was one play in particular inside the 20 I hope I can remember that included in chalk talk but there was one play particular inside the 20 that was a running play where they had the ha count it was literally including the running back there were plus one on the hat count I'm going oh that's bad scheme there bad scheme and we were in a underlook without a Sam being on the on the line without the strong side linebacker being on the line or the mck in that case I think it was 11 personnel and we were shaded to the strong to the underside and it was just hat count Central I was like oh no when I as soon as they handed the ball I went oh that was scheme and I went back and watched the replay I'm like yeah they had us plus one in the Hat count that cannot happen that can't happen teams will run all over you when you got a ha count like that and it didn't happen all day maybe someone lined up wrong I don't know it could have been on the players but yeah so coverage grade though 49.8 and then special teams grade 52.6 so there is your team grade all right again overall 60.3 offense 69.4 defense was 50 point uh 50.7 all right now let's jump into offense here let's see who graded out well on offense we try to get this zoomed in for y'all and let's keep it about right there so leading the way surprise surprise Zack Tom 67 snaps guys he graded out a 92.0 and you know we showed in the PFF preview and I don't know who was lined up over him I haven't watched Zack Tom's you know specific box tape probably won't either cuz the dude's good I'm moving on to try to find the holes that's just me uh but man he dominated 85.0 pass block grade it was supposed to be Brandon Graham lined up over him I don't know if that ended up being the case or not we'd have to go look at the tape run blocking 93.2 zero penalties that dude's about to make some Bank when you talk about modeling your roster in the salary cap remember what we just talked about with the wide receivers you got two receivers that are going to be coming up for contract uh next year will be the last year on their deal that's Romeo dobs trishan Watson okay and then I told you you got Jaden Reed and Davon Wicks the year after that Jaden Reed is the only Receiver right now that I see like okay he's worth the big bucks okay so you've got Jordan Love's contract starting to kick in albeit it's still affordable it's in the 20 millions of uh as far as cap hit you're good there but Zack Tom you got to figure out a way to get him paid you you overpay for great you never overpay for good right I feel like Romeo dobs and Christian Watson are good they're not great receivers they're good receivers so you don't want to overpay for that Jaden Reed so far great receiver you're willing to overpay for that he came in second 89.2 it was a Jaden Reed Show in that game and that was just oh so so much fun so much fun to watch uh watch him you know play offense third Elton Jenkins 78.4 he had a 78.9 pass block grade a 74o run block grade Elton Jenkins looking like the old Elton Jenkins do you want to see that that's absolutely awesome he's the guy in your roster model that's making big bucks right right now he's your highest paid offensive lineman number four Emanuel Wilson 69.8 he drops off tremendously doesn't it 92 89 78 now we're at 69.8 but Emanuel Wilson had a good game only 16 snaps and and I'll tell you this there was many times that there was nowhere to run and that dude just bounced it outside and and that's a great weapon to have when they're really trying to clog up the Run LS because when you do that now they got to be a little more hesitant okay we're just going to jam up the middle no we really gota we really got to watch those bounceback lanes and all it takes a little bit of hesitation you get them thinking about their original assignment you get them thinking about the adjustment the coach told them to make on the sideline hey look watch the bounce backs and now their mind comes off to play action they naturally bite on it you know your brain two thoughts can't occupy the human brain at the same time you ever thought about that I don't I want to get philosophical here redneck philosophy here but two two thoughts cannot occupy your brain at the same time it's physically impossible for someone to think about two things at the same time some people are going oh my God you just blew my mind that's why when people talk about speaking things into existence when you speak something you have to think about what you're speaking and it's the only thing that can occupy your brain at that time well guess what that's what you're focused on now very rarely do we get what we deserve we almost always get what we expect right now back to football I don't know what the hell that came from but here we are um defense if they're thinking all right here's my run fit okay now we got to what focus on the bounceback game all right their mind is completely off play action right it has to become you you ever heard a football player say you do it enough times it just becomes Instinct that's what they're talking about you because your your mind can't think about all these things at once it's just got to become natural it's got to become a reaction that you that you it's like when you touch something hot you don't think oh that's hot you think get my damn hand away from that right it's same same thing like you all it takes is one or two times to getting burned and now you're it's in your mind when that stove's on I ain't putting my hand over there you got to get your mind your your your mind and your body kind of geared around okay this is no matter what happens I'm reacting this way to this and that's why when you throw these different looks and you marry up the run with the pass like Matt leor is so good at causes problems um all right next Jordan Morgan this one made me smile only 28 snaps with 67.7 we've always talked about if a rookie grades out in the 60s it's usually a pretty good sign they're going to be a good football player so that was a great sign allbe it only the uh whatever it was 28 snaps so they were rotating with Shawn Ryan Shawn Ryan got the bulk of the snaps um it looks like Jordan Morgan came in at left tackle is what they're showing I'd have to go look at the tape but nonetheless 67.7 so sha Ryan at Right Guard 42 snaps um but we had a total of 67 my guess is Jordan Morgan played some Right Guard snaps too I haven't looked at the Box cam yet so we'll go back when I'm doing chalk talk today and try to get an answer for that but nonetheless Jordan Morgan 67.7 pass block grade 64.0 run block grade 66.6 number six Jordan luck as bad as Jordan played still played decent 64.6 passer grade of 63.7 now listen that's not $220 Million worth right there we all know that and Jordan knows that um but yeah that's how his grade shook out Josh Jacobs seventh at 64.4 his pass blocking grade 70.3 real solid there his uh passing grade on passing plays was 60.4 running grade was 63.8 um so Josh Jacobs you want to see more out of him but still uh pretty decent day definitely wasn't the reason we lost that game Romeo dobs was your highest uh highest graded wide receiver not named Jaden Reed at a 63.8 Rasheed Walker 60.9 he played 67 snaps um I wonder if they just have him they just have to have him listed at left tackle so Jordan Morgan had to have played Right Guard let's see if it actually shows us snaps I don't know if it will or not I know there's somewhere you can see it I just try not to get too hung up on that yeah I'm not seeing it we'll go back I think they just got list got him listed in the database as a left tackle so he probably did rotate with Shawn Ryan at Right Guard um Shawn Ryan came in at 59.8 just put Jordan Morgan out there at Right Guard let's get this over with stop this rotational crap you know he's ready let's go it ain't worse than Shawn Ryan we we can see that now listen you missed on Shawn Ryan third round pick it is what it is only thing worse than missing on a player is refusing to except the fact that you missed on a play Christian Watson 59.6 was his grade he was the the third highest grader receiver Bo Melton only eight snaps with a 56.2 Tucker craft had a bad game looks like his run blocking though 70.3 pass blocking 7 66.5 but in the passing game they must have seen him run a run a la route or something that that's got to be there because he played 64 snaps too but I expect him to get better Luke musra 43.8 not looking good for Luke man Josh Myers 65 snaps 50.1 PFF grade let me take a second to hit this because I meant too earlier um there was an update on Josh Myers he left the game people were asking me in the postgame do we know what's going on with Myers This what mat snob and said 10 hours ago Josh Myers left the game on the Play Jordan love got hurt Myers to me that he was cramping really bad the whole second half quote I took a set on that play and just fell over basically I don't mean to laugh that just sounds funny uh I got a couple IV bags I'm all right now so there you go Matt snan pretty much confirmed Josh Meers it was just cramps fact that him and Jordan were cramping and other other players are cramping down there it had to be something to do with the altitude right it would have to be but anyway Malik Willis two snaps 42.5 let's try not to judge him too hard I'll tell you the big surprise for me was Davon Wicks 31 snaps his grade was a 44.0 um that was ugly guys that was bad so if you look at it from a PFF standpoint Jaden Reed dominant Romeo dobs steady Edie Christian Watson nah you see what I'm saying about not wanting to pay Romeo dobs and Christian Watson wide receiver W money just doesn't make sense if you want to offer him 10 million per kick off the 2024 football season with prize picks America's number one daily 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as the tight end snaps man I've been pretty vocal Nick um and you maybe you haven't been watching the show here lately I think Tucker Craft's your best tied end he can he can he can do more of everything you need him to do than Musgrave and that's not necessarily a knock against Musgrave Musgrave is more of that hybrid wide receiver tie that Flex tied in uh Tucker's that guy as you seen with the Run blocking his strength was a run blocking pass blocking right so um I think uh me personally I'm going with with our boy Tucker CRA let me go back to offense real quick and let's just see the snap count there real quick Tucker craft 64 yeah musra 17 so it's obvious that's how they see it too and again look at look at mus cra's run blocking I think that's run block yeah 42.3 Tucker craft 70.3 so we gotta Tucker Craft's your top tight end in my opinion man hopefully that answered your question there though what do you think about the snapshat I think it's indicative kind of what we've seen you know Tucker craft is your tight in one thank you Nick I'll try to keep the uh keep an eye on the super chats there sorry for the delay buddy appreciate you um all right let's see here defensively this gets me excited man it was only 11 snaps but edrien Cooper my goodness 85.9 guys we I hope they're not too hesitant with him get him on the field man get him out there on the field in the base and the nickel everything he may come back down to earth next game but who who is the who's the guy that's competing with him you got two different cats Eric Wilson 62.4 and then you've got Isaiah McDuffy great out 35.7 that surprises me you guys know I think mcduffy's a good ball player he wasn't on on a Friday night that's for sure so when you're in your nickel 425 you got to get edrian Cooper and Quay Walker out there that needs to be your linebackers remember what I said it kind of feels like based off what I seen with edrian Cooper and they play they they both do do two different things right but although edrian Cooper had a higher coverage grade too it's just 11 snaps edrian Cooper might be your mik of the future you know that that true linebacker that when you go to a dime or or a a dime or a quarter set hey that's the linebacker that goes on the field you know uh he could be that dude but Quay had 76 snaps too you I've been real vocal about Quay I want it to work out but it's just not working out his run fits is is the big thing for me like when you look at his run defense cre and they see it the same way overall he's a 59 but his run run defense grade is a 59.9 tackle grade 62.9 not horrible but run fits his weakness coverage was a 60.4 but look at look at our boy Edan Cooper when he was he only had two coverage snaps but a 60.9 we just we need a larger sample size of Edan Cooper if he graded out in the 40s 50s or 60s I'd say let's just keep rolling with Eric Wilson and and Isaiah McDuffy but I'll tell you Eric Wilson to me a couple run stops there he only played 15 snaps so we're we're grading you know we're really being harsh judging Isaiah McDuffy on 74 snaps and Eric Wilson only on 15 Edan Cooper only on 11 but I just want to see what you got there I don't want to get halfway through the season and not know can edra and Cooper H you may you may March him out there the next three weeks and he turned out to be the best linebacker on the team if you don't try it you don't know right one thing we do know is he's completely healthy now let's get his butt on the field that's what need to focus on Xavier mckenny the big free agent signing in the off season 76.2 76.2 solid his run fit obviously 54.3 not ideal but tackle grade 81.2 one of the best tackles I think he had had the best tackle grade on the entire team I don't I don't want to keep going back to this but man I'm telling you that these guys that goody drafted the defensive back room they could Savage could not tackle to save his life you know like Anthony Johnson Jr didn't make the roster you you got to start doing something different in drafting defensive players you got to because it's just you're focusing too much on these Elite athletes rather than football IQ and tackling ability you know I don't know maybe I'm maybe I'm on an island there I it just you go out you shop all right let's go get this safety and free agency he comes in and bang tackle grades up same thing happened with Amos remember they went and got Adrien Amos same thing one of the best tacklers on the team and haret was someone they didn't draft haha Clinton Dicks different story right we drafted him you're just I think you're leaning a little too much into those athletic schools not obviously not specifically R but their own athletic you know what I'm saying it's just I don't know anyway third this I thought this was a positive Eric Stokes 66.7 coverage grade 65.9 not horrible that's way better than J Alexander fellas way better um kesan Nixon had a good ball game we've been hard on kesan on this podcast 65.4 run defense fit 64.9 tackle grave was 47.5 again that was one of the guys that kind of popped up on ah the missed tackles pass rush gra was a 92.3 that definitely helped his overall his coverage grade was a 53.5 but the big thing for me was the that play he made on Jaylen Herz go back and watch the Dallas game go find kesan Nixon sack and Dak Prescott was the same exact type of play he was on that side of the Field playing spot drop little Zone coverage eyes on the quarterback shoot your shot be aggressive big play but uh kesan still though had had had kind of a kind of a bad game from the coverage standpoint he's not a great slot Corner although overall I think he had a decent game definitely other people to pick on Lucas vaness only 19 snaps but a 65.3 um I think you probably gotta get him out there a little bit more tackle great a 71.2 pass rush was only a 58.2 run fit though 65.9 all signs are pointing toward don't be afraid to put him in an interior defensive tackle position as 4-3 defense he can hold up at the point of attack and he's got the athleticism to shoot that one Gap um I don't know man maybe maybe get him a try him on the interior a little bit I wouldn't mind to see that Carrington Valentine only nine snaps but a 63.5 you know Eric Wilson 15 snaps 62.4 Preston Smith 54 snaps 61. one his pass rush grade was a 50 ran Gary 59.5 on 49 snaps tackle grade was good 73.9 56.6 pass rush grade now when we were pointing at his pass rush grade being good last year and his pressures being good people roasted us because he didn't get sacks now you see the grades down and he got a sack so you guys got what you wanted but now I'm going ah man come on we got to get more pressure on the quarterback it's funny how that works man um 56.6 for Gary again Quay Walker 76 snaps listen he's available right 76 snaps I think he played every in every single defensive snap that's that's noteworthy no doubt about it 59 defense grade his run run defense grade was a 59.9 with the Run fit tackle grade 62.9 pass rush grade 51.2 he only had five snaps where he pass rushed and then uh 60.4 for the coverage grade so you see once again this year his uh past coverage grade seems to be one of his strengths Devonte white a 55 defensive grade uh not that good run defense 50.9 tackle grade 67.3 that's a little bit encouraging pass rush 61.1 obviously had the fumble recovery on the bad snap hey that's a huge play in the game kept us in it for sure um uh what's he doing with the coverage snap guys you mean Devonte white felt dropped into coverage I thought we were mad at people doing that what are we doing here Eric Wilson dropped in coverage three times he's a defensive or no he's a weak side linebacker but they like to play on the line there time to time interesting interesting so your edges didn't drop at all so I'm sure people were very happy about that but again we uh when we highlighted the tape on Jeff Halley at Boston College when they played Florida State and Jordan Travis he liked to play those those defensive tackle spies Kenny Clark's got one there too one coverage snap so uh J Alexander the highest paid corner in the league 52 .1 his coverage grade 48.9 it's time to have that conversation fellas I hate to be that dude and I know he got the interception he freelanced on the interception but um I hate to be that guy but my goodness man he got cooked if uh and listen Corners get cooked this isn't a is is J Alexander a good corner or not this is a is J Alexander worthy of being the highest paid corner in the league talk it sucks I like that dude but how many years are we going to do this and we blame the scheme did we not last year it's just the Joe Barry scheme that's the problem gotta button it up quick here with J man because he did he that that little out and go out and up whatever you want to call it from AJ Brown I mean he used no football IQ whatsoever he being J and he just got cooked it's like he looks like he's playing lazy and I'm not talking like loen I'm talking like mindwise he's not it's it's like he it's like he thinks he's still 23 years old and his athleticism can make up for him making a bad mental decision and it just it's doesn't happen man don't get me wrong I was screaming as loud as anyone when he picked that ball off in the end zone but I was also screaming as loud as anyone when he decided to run around for 15 yards and he cost a seven invisible yards by not down the hands so like that's the top of mistakes it just it takes you into the mindset of okay what's he thinking that's what he's thinking is to hell with what I'm being coach I'm gonna do what I want to do is what it feels like maybe I'm being too hard on them but man it does it it's just you know maybe I am maybe I'm just being being too hard on them I want to see what the chat's saying see if I'm getting roasted in here maybe it's rightfully so heck it looks like everybody agrees with me um jcole remember of the PTA posy appreciate you buddy said J got barbecued that's just horrible and again PFF isn't everything right right Jay but when you watch the tape tape lines up with the gray there's no doubt about it um Ben Holden Alexander tried to bump Brown and Brown made him look silly and you guys remember like and there's three different sides to a story right there's there's your side there's my side then there's the truth you know the old saying and it's so true like everybody last year many people last year why why don't they let J play bump and run why don't they let J play bump and run Jah came out in his own words to said he don't like to play bump and run he likes to play off so Joe Barry was the scapegoat for that and then when you put him in bump and run you could tell he's uncomfortable right he did he looked silly he did um you know amm makes a good point he's never been the same since the shoulder injury it's very true man very true maybe that's it and look I'm sitting behind a mock and I got it about 67 degrees in here slot Breeze blowing in off the deck and I'm over here talking about somebody uh playing soft with a shoulder inury talk about hypocrisy at at at its most but yeah man it does feel like that a fam it really does both Nathan says no Clayton agree with you it's time to have that conversation with j and here's how I think the conversation should go if the season plays out the way it is right now um we got a few minutes I almost want to pull up his contract I think I'm G to do it I don't want to get too crazy here flying solo because I can really slow down the show if I do this um let's see if we can pull this contract up bear with me just a second guys because we want to look at the guarantee stuff and uh and see exactly what the penalty is if you were to move on next year there's somebody right now I can't believe y are cutting we're not cutting him we're just having the conversation because the performance is setting up an opportunity to maybe him maybe take a pay cut that's that's the reality right let's uh let's pop this over here real quick we can always come back to the PFF here in a second I just want to look at some of the guarantees and everything on his contract all right let's see let's drop this down bang this is good podcast some people on the podcast right now are like I'm unsubbing to this garbage I apologize y'all I'm trying all right so let's look at the contract as a whole I'm going to zoom it out I'm a little more comfortable when it's when it's zoomed out a little bit um I want to see it's going to make the numbers a little harder for y'all to read but I really need to be able to see the dead cap and all that stuff attached um so his contract details as it sits right now we're in 2024 right here you guys can see my cursor right okay so the way the contract is structured right now his cap hit this year is 23.9 million okay his dead cap attached is 35.4 million so next year as we go into next year he's set to have a cap hit of 25. 8 million and the dead cap attached is 19 million he's got one voidable year that's worth of uh what $2.3 million in cap and that would accelerate to the cap for 2025 if you moved on from him after this year so the essentially the best way to read this guys if you cut him out right you're only saving roughly $6 million you're saving 6.7 million is it worth it now now the question becomes and this the same conversation we have with Aaron Jones and I think a large majority of our listeners including people on Twitter too would agree that the question now becomes is Aaron Jones worth that extra one to three I heard reports that the Vikings gave him one million more than the Packers I heard reports that they gave him three million we're talking real money we're not talking about this phoning money real money um if that was the case the question now becomes is Aaron Jones worth $3 million because no matter what he's on the cap hit for right now you're now trying to determine you know in cost analysis is he worth the extra three million or the extra one million or not that's what the question becomes I personally think Aaron Jones was goody disagreed and he moved on right the thought of having Aaron Jones and Josh Jacobs on the field at the same time in a split back set and being able to do some really unique things with them both being receiving backs now Aaron Jones may hit the wall this year and goody proven to be you know a genius that could be the case but for me I think it would have been worth an extra 3 million to have him on the on the roster now back to J Alexander is it worth six million to keep him on the roster that's the question as it sits right now me personally I think it is okay but if you went to him and asked him to take a quote unquote pay cut let me show you what that would look like you go to 2025 and you notice his base salary right here right you can see my cursor his base salary is 16.1 million okay and uh he's got a signing bonus of6 million a restructure bonus of 2.3 and uh workout and roster is less than a million so let's let's key in on the base salary here I see you're super chat there Ron I'm gonna hit it buddy I really really appreciate it bro give me just a second let me finish up this thought here and then we'll uh we'll hit that Super Chat that 16.1 you can convert that to signing bonus what that does is that guarant te money to Jer and it allows you to spread that money out over the rest of his contract okay now why would Jer do that because that's guaranteed money in his pocket period That's why players love doing that now what teams will do was they'll go to and they did this with Preston Smith several times right you go to that player and go hey look here's here's what we'd like to do of that 16.1 million we want to we want to convert that money to a $5 million sign bonus write you a $5 million check right now okay if we do that the cap hit with that base salary is still 16.1 but if you're willing if you're willing to take a pay cup we'll give you that five million so we we want to give you a $3 million quote unquote pay cut right and drop your number down to 13.1 but we want to take five million of that 13.1 and give you a $5 million check right now you don't have to wait to get paid and now in J you go to jer's camp and their thing is do we want to pack up and leave Wisconsin do we want to potentially go to another state that's got higher taxes do I want to do I want to completely move across the country right am I rooted here and if if the answer is yes is it worth doing all that to take a $3 million pay cut overall but get a $5 million check right now to stay you see what I'm saying so that's how you can free up some cap money he technically takes a pay cut but he also gets more money in his pocket right that comes into play and you got to ask yourself is it worth losing gy Alexander over $6 million I personally think you keeping the numbers at six 2026 different story because in 2026 the cap hit jumps to 27.8 and the dead Cap's only 10.7 right there you're freeing up what would that be $10 million in cap space that's a whole different ball game right there see what I'm saying so something to monitor again it's more about getting the best 11 out there if gy isn't one of the best 11 you know what I'm saying like and I mean I don't I'm trying to find a way to defend him here he got cooked on Friday night the tape shows him getting cook the PFF grade shows him getting cooked it's not so much about the capit anymore as it is is he one of the best 11 to put on the field with Carrington Valentine had gotten cook listen AJ Brown's damn good receiver maybe he would have right with Cory Ballentine now with Cory Ballentine this is going to sound really really strange but who's a better receiver AJ brown or Justin Jefferson I think it's Justin Jefferson maybe you guys disagree that's okay Corey Balentine shut Justin Jefferson down last year on New Year's Eve I'm just saying now if you if you wanted to potentially trade that makes that a little bit better right if you trade Jer and free up you you free up the Six Million and and some of that it may even be a bigger free up because I know there's there's some things you could do you could restructure it before you trade him um but and he's got to work out maybe he wants to work out a new deal with a new team if you get a third round pick and you free up six million next year that feels a that feels a lot better you know what I'm saying so yeah man I did not expect to talk about that but here we are Ron sell with the Super Chat appreciate you buddy he said um hle may be judged as a coach by how willing he is to replace underperforming players during the year no matter their status on the team it's a great Point Ron and again the goal should be get the best player on the field right again I'm not saying we need to cut J Alexander but I think we're all agreeing like it's time to have that conversation like hey look this uh BB you're you're tying up a good chunk of the salary cap and um we're not getting a result from it you know what I'm saying I mean that's uh it's tough I mean what what percentage of the cap is that actually let me look here real quick percentage of the cap we had it up this year alone he's eating up 99.3% of the cap next year it's 9.4 then the year after that 9.5 now keep in mind every year that goes a long spot track has tried to tally in a guesstimate of what the salary cap will be it may be a little higher may be a little lower but they try to put in certain average percentage so um yeah just something to kind of keep our eye on there for sure but Ron thank you thank you for the Super Chat Man to answer your question um or to respond to your comment here I mean uh he may be judged as a coach by how willing he is to replace underperforming players so true you got to put the best 11 out there man I think we're thinking in the same the same vein there Ron appreciate the support buddy thank you so much for the Super Chat you are awesome um let's hit a couple of these other comments and I know we still got actually let's finish what we were doing we got sidetracked but man those are the convers conversations that need to happen no doubt about it as we uh as we go through and and hit stuff like this with the PFF grades and everything let me uh see if I can get this a little zoomed in here for y'all all right let's go full screen again okay just to finish it up uh we kind of got down to what Devonte white JY Alexander 52.2 48.9 gosh it's horrible Javon Buller guys bad game according to PFF but 76 snaps hey go dive into the tape and get better bull right 46.1 look at his run defense though 77.4 let's go let's freaking go tackle grade 69.6 let's go that's way better than Savage right the coverage grade was the big hit 39.8 the thing I noticed was him playing deep safety and Xavier mckenny playing in the Box a little more than I expected I think we might have the snaps out here let me see real quick we do sometimes they put the snap alignment whether yeah here we go God it's way over no we can yeah we can line it up all right cool so Xavier McKenna played 25 snaps in the box and 44 at free safety played Seven snaps in the slot interesting right now some of those it's not that there's not a slot corner on the field it's just the the the specific defensive call they had put him in the slot that makes sense so with Bullard Bullard played only 14 snaps in the Box 45 at free safety 10 in the slot right and three actually at corner so um seems like they're playing bull a little more at the Deep spot when his grades would suggest he'd be better in the Box more you know now you don't want to we've talked about this last year even when talking about the Fango scheme and Joe Barry running a variation of the fangio scheme gone are the days of this is your deep safety this is your box safety both safety positions have to be able to play both aspects of the game in today's NFL because there's so much pre- snap movement there's so many trips Trey and bunch sets that are deployed now from offenses that you got to kind of look at it that way now you got both guys gota be able to play down but I would try to scheme it up to play the bull strength because you know our boy McKenna can do both right and do do both well let's try to get bull into the slot a little or into the box a little bit more and and let McKenna make the play on the ball like on chalk if I can get it ready tonight if not we'll do it tomorrow if I can get chalk talk ready you guys are going to see Xavier mcken and his ability to track the ball is just phenomenal that interception was in Tampa 2 that was a Tampa 2 defense he was supposed to cover deep half and there was a guy going down the sideline in that deep half he covered that guy took that look away and still had the wherewithal the awareness the play recognition to read the quarterback's eyes and the athleticism to get back to the seam and pick the ball off and Quay Walker covering the seam covering the receiver down the SE in the Tampa 2 look his strength it was just man two guys making a play was absolutely huge so we'll get into that a little later tonight I'm gonna hit special teams we're way over here um special teams grades real quick look who's at the top of the list only seven snaps but edrian Cooper phenomenal Eric Wilson 69.7 with 24 snaps led the team look at Javon Bullard there you're seeing some worth from a rookie 15 snaps 64.8 Zayn Anderson 64.5 Cy Balentine contributing 18 snaps 63.9 Evan Williams 15 snaps 61.8 they're toward the top who struggled in special teams Xavier McKenna 13 snaps 30.4 if he gets hurt on a special Team snap I'm gonna lose my mind rash Walker Isam McDuffy took a big hit and maybe it's because he's starting now right he's starting backer you know only nine snaps but a 41.4 um yeah Tyron Hopper 48.1 Bo Melton 50.2 just some of the guys toward the bottom there okay just wanted to hit on that real quick but all right with that being said guys um we're way over on time thank y'all this was a fun episode I hate going solo like this but at the same time it is cool to uh to get in here and be able to chat with y'all a little bit and uh and keying on the chat a little bit more like I said the super chats are a lot easier to see but uh yeah thank y'all everybody in the chat I want to see if there's anything else to hit on as we leave here real quick um on speci yeah jco why is he on special teams I don't know J I don't it either but we'll let's write a letter to 1265 see if we can get Xavier mcken off special teams so um but seriously thanks everybody this was a lot of fun if we could hit that like button on your way out also if you're interested in this kind of conversation offline um we got a patreon group that's awesome you can scan that QR code in the upper right or just go to patreon.com Packer fan tootal access and uh 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