>> BRAND NEW POLLING HAS THE PRESIDENTIAL RACE IN A DEAD HEAT. THE CNN POLL FOUND SEVERAL STATES WITHIN THE MARGIN OF ERROR, INCLUDING PENNSYLVANIA WHERE THE CANDIDATES ARE IN A VIRTUAL TIE. AND FOR MORE ON THIS, LET'S BRING IN OUR ESTEEMED POLITICAL PAM, THE DIRECTOR OF THE DNC CHAIR AND LANCE SERVED AS THE SPOKESMAN FOR DOUG BERGAM'S CAMPAIGN. SO I KEEP THINKING OF ALL OF THE CONVENTIONS AND ALL OF THE MONEY BEING POURED INTO THESE RACES AND IT'S ESSENTIALLY A VIRTUAL TIE, AND I WANT TO START WITH YOU COMING OFF OF THE DEMOCRATIC CONVENTION. AND I KNOW THAT HARRIS DESCRIBES HERSELF AS THE UPPER DOG BUT ARE WE SEEING DISPATION OF THAT? >> NO, I DON'T CARE THAT WE'RE SEEING DISPATION OF THIS. BUT HERE'S THE RETAIL. WE KNEW THIS WAS GOING TO BE A DEAD HEAT FROM THE BEGINNING, EVEN WITH JOE BIDEN, BUT THE COUNTRY IS DIVIDED AND YOU ARE GOING TO GO STATE-BY-STATE, AND IT'S REALLY DIFFICULT TO SAY ONE IT STATE IS RED AND ONE BLUE AND THIS IS GOING TO BE THE CASE FOR THE NEXT FEW WEEKS AND MAYBE ELECTION DAY. BUT KAMALA HARRIS HAS A LOT OF MOMENTUM AND RUNNING A SOUND CAMPAIGN, AND THE ONLY THING THAT COUNTS RIGHT NOW IS GETTING THE VOTERS TO VOTE. >> AND LANCE, I WANT YOU TO PUT ON YOUR HAT. AND IN THE POLLS, THE RACE IS TIGHT AND IN THE SENATE RACES, THE DEMOCRATS ARE RUNNING AHEAD OF THE REPUBLICANS EXCEPT IN PENNSYLVANIA ACTUALLY AND THAT WAS A DEAD HEAT AND W WHAT DO YU MAKE OF THAT DYNAMIC AND WHY? >> I THINK THAT THE ♪ IS STILL GOING TO GO REPUBLICAN, AND VIRGINIA AND OHIO, THERE ARE STATES THAT LEAN RED. AND THERE'S A LONG WAY TO GO IN THIS CAMPAIGN, WE'RE TALKING 60 DAYS. >> ESPECIALLY THIS YEAR. >> WE HAD A DIFFERENT PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE NOT TOO LONG AGO, BUT I DO THINK, IT'S ALL COMING DOWN TO PENNSYLVANIA AND IT'S TELLING THAT BOTH CAMPAIGNS ARE FOCUSED ON THAT STATE AND IT'S THE NEW FLORIDA BACK IN THE DAY. >> AND SPEAKING OF THAT IT STATE. PAT TOOMEY, FORMER REPUBLICAN SENATOR. >> WHEN YOU LOSE AN ELECTION AND YOU TRY TO OVERCOME THE RESULTS. >> IT'S DOWN TO ONE VOTE AND IT IS YOURS. >> IT'S AN ACCEPTABLE POSITION FOR ME TO SAY THAT NEITHER OF THESE CANDIDATES. >> SO I KNOW HE'S A FORMER SENATOR AND WE SAW DURING THE RNC THAT THE REPUBLICANS UNITED AROUND THE FORMER PRESIDENT, AND WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THESE COMMENTS? >> PAT TOOMEY AND THESE GUYS WHO DON'T WANT TO VOTE FOR PRESIDENT TRUMP, I SAID LOOK AT THE POLLS, AND DONALD TRUMP IS LOCKED IN, AND I'M NOT SURE THAT PENNSYLVANIA CARES ABOUT THAT. >> BUT IT MATTERS TO KAMALA HARRIS AND TIM WALZ, AND I BELIEVE THAT IT ADDS I BELIEVE. >> WHAT IS SO STRIKING TO ME. THAT NEXT WEEK, KAMALA HARRIS AND TRUMP WILL MEET FOR THE FIRST TIME. AND IT'S WILD TO ME THAT THEY HAVE NOT ACTUALLY MET AND LET'S TALK ABOUT THAT DEBATE BECAUSE THAT WILL BE THE FIRST TIME THEY SEE EACH OTHER. AND KAMALA HARRIS IS GOING TO BE IN PENNSYLVANIA UNTIL THE DEBATE, PREPARING BUT ALSO CAMPAIGNING A LITTLE AS WELL. AND WHAT DO YOU WANT HER TO DO? WHAT DO YOU WANT HER TO GET OUT OF THIS? >> KAMALA HARRIS ENJOYS THIS POLITICAL SPORT, IN PARTICULAR, SO I THINK THAT A COUPLE OF THINGS SHE HAS TO DO, SHE HAS TO SHOW AMERICANS WHO SHE IS, AND PEOPLE HAVE A QUESTION MARK. AND SHE HAS TO REMIND PEOPLE WHERE SHE STANDS, AND SECONDLY E. SHE HAS TO BE STRONG AGAINST THE FORMER PRESIDENT. WE SAW DONALD TRUMP DEBATE HILLARY CLINTON AND JOE BIDEN, AND HE'S A VERY GOOD DEBATER AND I THINK THAT KAMALA HARRIS HAS TO SHOW THAT THEY CAN MATCH THAT ENERGY AND LASTLY, SHE HAS TO BE CLEAR ABOUT HER VISION FOR THE FUTURE AND SHE TALKS ABOUT NOT GOING BACK AND WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? AND SHE HAS TO BE CLEAR ABOUT SHE AND TIM WALZ WANT TO DO. >> AND DONALD TRUMP, TRYING TO BE KNOCK THE CANDIDATE OUT OF THE RACE, AND DONALD TRUMP IS KNOWN FOR SAYING THAT HE DOESN'T NEED TO PREPARE FOR THESE, AND HE HAS KNOWN ADEPTNESS OF BEING ABLE TO TALK OFF THE CUFF IN THESE DEBATES, BUT WHAT DO HE NEED TO DO? OR CAN HE GO IN THERE UNPREPARED? >> I THINK TO TELL THE FORMER PRESIDENT WHAT TO DO, THERE'S ONE THING THAT WE ALL CAN AGREE ON AT THE TABLE. THE VOTING PUBLIC IS IN TUNE WITH DONALD J. TRUMP AND WHO HE IS AND ALL OF THE GOOD AND BAD THINGS THAT COME WITH THAT. IF YOU'RE DONALD J. TRUMP, THE ONE THING THAT YOU CANNOT LET KAMALA HARRIS DO IS REWRITING HISTORY. IN HER CAMPAIGN, I WAS A PROSECUTE AND BY THE WAY, I'M A MODERN AND HE HAS TO BE STRONG CALLING OUT A LOT OF HER FAR LEFT VOTING RECORD IN THE SENATE AND HER TIME AS VICE PRESIDENT WHEN THE INFLATION HAS SOARED AND THE BORDER IS OUT OF CONTROL. AND THE LAST 7 OR 8 YEARS AND FOR HIM, HE CAN'T LET HER DO THAT. >> AND IT'S INTERESTING DUE, HARRIS AND BIDEN WERE TOGETHER ON WIL LABOR DAY AND DOES SHE ND TO CREATE DISTANCE FROM HIM? ESPECIALLY WITH THE CAMPAIGN STRATEGY IS TO SAY THAT SHE INHERITS ALL OF THE BAGGAGE. >> I THINK THAT JOE BIDEN HAS BEEN A PHENOMENAL PRESIDENT AND KAMALA HARRIS SAYS THAT EVERY DAY. BUT HERE'S THE THING, SHE WANTS TO CREATE SPACE SHOWING VOTERS THAT SHE WILL BE A DIFFERENT PRESIDENT THAN JOE BIDEN. THIS IS NOT ABOUT JOE BIDEN. HE WAS A FANTASTIC PRESIDENT AND HE DID A LOT FOR THIS COUNTRY AND SHE WOULD NOT BE THE NOMINEE HAD HE NOT STEPPED ASIDE AND SHE RECOGNIZES THAT, BUT THEY'RE TWO DIFFERENT PEOPLE, SHE WAS THE VICE PRESIDENT AND HE MADE THE DECISIONS AND SHE WANTS TO BE THE PERSON TO MAKE IS THE DECISION AND SHE HAS TO PROVE THAT SHE CAN DO THAT WITH OUT THROWING JOE BIDEN UNDER THE BUS. >> AND THIS IDEA, IN POLLING, THE RACE HAS TIGHTENED FROM A REPUBLICAN PERSPECTIVE AND ARE THE ATTACKS ON HER WORKING AS YOU'VE SEEN HIM? THEM? . >> I THINK THAT YOU SEE IT IN THE POLLING, THIS IS GOING TO BE A TIGHT RACE AND THE KEY IS OBVIOUSLY GOING TO BE THE 15% OF UNDECIDED VOTERS AND