I had never felt any felt as much division um until frankly Barack Obama's presidency yeah that's when it really seemed to change when I was that's what he brought that's what because he's very good at it it's very good very good at it yeah he takes advantage of anything you like the you know uh this 18-year-old kid that shot the policeman uh in Minneapolis was it can't remember recently no no this is oh back in the back in the um this where the beginning of black lives matter okay okay so you mean like 2020 hands up don't shoot oh that was in Missouri Missouri right um Mike Brown Michael Brown right BR in Missouri yes yes and and his uh his buddy Michael Brown's buddy said he said hands up don't shoot no and it was a lie it was it was a complete lie yeah