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and now it's 10:00 a.m. let's just get down to it and it's time for your sports fix strap yourselves in folks from two guys who have covered the teams you're passionate about for years we are professionals this is Jake Scott and Ben Anderson on 975 the KSL Sports Zone [Music] all right we're ready it's gab day Jake and Ben 975 D KSL Sports Zone and Ben we are live on location we are at one of our very favorite places that of course is peach doors and windows uh and we're excited to be here Cindy is here we're going to talk to her throughout the show Ben you talk about the showroom often and it's fun to uh just to be reminded how much uh cool stuff is out there yeah and it's man just come on in stop by say hi open six days a week come on down and hang out you're going to have a good time check out the different doors different windows and you know what different budget options that's something we probably don't talk about enough with peach doors and windows they can really make sure that they fit not just your home but your budget now if you're like Ben and just want to blow it out you know they'll they'll handle that too whatever yeah I don't expect people to have my budget 2940 South 300 West come see us right here in Salt Lake uh we'd love to see you we've got a little candy for you or your children uh but I might sneak a donut for you uh oh yeah we've got pastries of in fact we've got a lot of them so if you haven't eaten if you got out the door quickly but you can sneak away from the boss for a minute I'll give you a donut come in come in um college football finally here Ben even though it's somewhat anti-climactic climactic uh given the opponents but uh suu Utah tonight it's it's it's fun college football it it feels all too brief and so enjoy it you know while it goes on but it's it's it's cool I mean it's it's cool because it changes so quickly yeah and that is the one down part is after tonight there's only 11 there's only 11 games left for Utah and that's that's the sad part but uh yeah this is a full weekend and not just a full you know not just with our local teams there's a bunch of games tonight there's like 15 games at least on the docket so uh I imagine everyone locally is going to be glued to Utah but if the game stinks and it's a blow blow out you can flip around there's going to be games tonight including my very own Minnesota Golden Gophers why do taken on UNC why do you have Minnesota socks I found socks randomly and so I bought them they were like three bucks these are like $18 Stance socks but I got them for $3 but they have Minnesota on there well I don't have a college affiliation so I just figured I'd pick somebody but the and I like the color the golden gulfer is not not good not necessarily who would pick not a not good not a not a history not really like hip in any sort of way and and by the way I I have somebody in my personal orbit that got their grad degree from Minnesota and it's perfectly it's a perfectly lovely school but pretty random that's kind of like me right I just know history just kind of wander around not really spectacular nothing to write home about and they're taking on the Mac Browns but I look good and maroon do you I wear a lot of maroon uh so yeah they're playing Mac Brown tonight at North Carolina just Mac Brown just old man Mac is going to be out there money on Mac lining it up pretty amazing he's had a rebirth at North Carolina again not to go down a rabbit hole but the the whole retread coach thing usually doesn't work agreed but that was a nice that was a that was a right time it was good for him to get out of Texas and good to go back home and and he's had success he's been good again and honestly like I I tease PK that Arizona State should be way better because they have all these built-in advantages that they never seem to uh take advantage of and PK will uh will differ with that but I'd say the same thing about North Carolina football again not to go down a weird rabbit hole but like great school great part of the country yep talent to be recruited all over the place to their North and their South and not to mention their State why why they suck is really inexcusable so ma Brown probably is just smart enough to be like oh yeah I can I can recruit Julius Peppers every year and we can be good yeah I never understood why North Carolina sucked I'm with you uh and they've got the money they've got the donor base now I know most of it goes to basketball but most of it goes to basketball then ah you can we're back to the you cannot be a both a basketball and football school resources been yeah aren't we seeing that in real time with BYU where the resources are going and where they are not now I don't know what Kanani's working with from an niil standpoint but I have heard Rumblings and we've heard people talk about um in fact Trevor Riley talked about it that they uh are lacking in that department on a in the football end and are not lacking in that department for basketball yeah Utah is fully a football school it is it's just fully a football school it's probably been that way for two decades now which is crazy to say because it still feels like a relatively new phenomenon but you know this would have to go back to the final four back to 1978 for Utah now look Utah basketball was that good for a long time they were pretty relevant and they had guys going to the NBA but you look at Utah football for the last 20 years have dominated that Athletic program what would it take for BYU for you to fully say this is no longer a football school like is it going to take two decades before you're confident saying it it didn't take two decades to say at Utah football you know that an interesting thing uh because it it used to not Flip Flip on a dime I mean resources it you it used to be more of an altruistic thing where you did spread your resources out more because you felt the obligation uh to do so but uh it can flip on a dime now I suppose and maybe that's the weakness of uh of the theory is that if you just start pouring all of the resources into one in this nil world you can flip it on a dime I don't know we'll see but I'm surprised that we're he I don't know if I agree with you you can flip it on a dime I I think it also takes cultural understanding the fan base etc etc now how quickly can you do that and are you primed for it the nice thing about BYU basketball specifically it's because basketball is a huge part of the LDS culture just is it is built in there it is you're able to do that and then you mix in going to the big 12 hiring Kevin young it actually kind of had the stars align if it does turn into a basketball school you'll be able to go back and point at a couple of of very specific things that allowed it to happen yeah a billionaire NBA owner EXA car 100% and again it's not just him but he's kind of the face of the face and also that you were the WCC in basketball and independent in football I mean you actually had more of a home in basketball than you did in football all these little things have put BYU in the spot I guess maybe it's not crazy to recognize why BYU football has and I don't want to use too strong of a word but disintegrated a little bit well yeah I don't know uh I I don't know uh mediocre mediocrity has something to do with it a huge part of it and I think that's what I'm trying to go back to is what what caused the mediocrity well Independence for one big time um I don't know what you want to talk how you want to describe the end of Broncos career I I would never or Bron knock his career his his run at by I would never want to accuse somebody of their heart not being in it anymore or mailing it in I I wouldn't go that far but I think he kind of lost his passion for that job just a personal opinion that's not based on inside info or anything I I think he and BYU got tired of each other and he was obviously reinvigorated at UVA I thought and we'll see what happens at New Mexico but I think that relationship had had come to an end I think that's the important word is the relationship because it wasn't just Bronco to BYU it was the fan base towards Bronco there was a lot of things that were no longer as invested where I think BYU fans had become accustomed to being in love with their coach to loving their coach in level Edwards and having that type of relationship I I think that's an important relationship to have so I I think that led to it I think Kanani had an interesting building process because he inherited a pretty good team but that actually led to some bad habits the next year and then you know I think Tanner mum and not to put everything on Tanner but I think it's a factor that he didn't turn out to be the next great BYU quarterback left kind of a a little bit of a stop G I think that they had to reinvent the program around tesm Hill I I think led to some short-term success but longterm left them without uh an identity as an offense hiring tymer because he was a celebrity was a bad idea I mean all those things there's a series of missteps I don't know if I believe in the in the game plan at BYU now honestly and and I've been vocal about that and I like the the coaching staff but I don't think you can Utah BYU and I think they're trying to do that and I don't I don't think that plays into BYU strengths I I want to know why there's a gap in quarter this Gap in quarterbacks between jiren Hall and whoever is next yeah why was it necessary to get keen slovis and Gary Bohan where was the the break in the chain where was the break in the line and when there are natural breaks in the line what do you do about it going back to Broncos early days when Ben Olsen was gone because that flamed out and he transferred they had Max Hall they found Max Hall and that wasn't Max was next in line that was like okay we got to find a guy and they found an NFL guy I mean and that's what you got to do sometimes but I want to know why they haven't found that guy for two years or at least the vision of that guy and now colani doesn't have the Rope to even Explore it really because the quarterback has to help the Run game apparently right and that that's the other issue is there's not been that second fallback that safety net that is either a dynamite tight end or receiver even though you did have nakua there uh or a running back that steps in and says okay well I'll just carry the load if you don't have a good quarterback I'm going to do all the hard work but then that goes back to the offensive line again it's the series of just Little nothing stopped the fall I I am the the year 2020 was so frustrating for so many reasons but one of them was BYU had their best football and basketball team that they had had in a long time and I I think that's true I mean the the what basketball was robbed of a NCAA tournament birth and they were pretty good that's Mark Pope's first year if uh you remember back then and uh and the football team you know got to play 12 games or whatever but it just wasn't the the schedule where anybody would believe you know what I mean but they were really good but think back to that year at what everybody was complimenting Roderick on was that he shook the wit you know conservatism or or the and he was creative and he was using uh Zack Wilson and all these different throws and all these different patterns and Dax Mill and all this different creative stuff Zach yes was a mobile guy but not one time did anybody say like well he's really helping the Run game out there like that wasn't that wasn't what how we were describing the offense that BYU was running it was it was go back and watch it it was it was creative it was letting Zack Wilson be this creative quarterback that went out and carved up defenses the problem was the defenses were not Alabama right you know what I mean and so then it gets lost in the shuffle but I I I'm concerned that they don't have a quarterback that they can that can play that way so then that begs the question as to why and that doesn't mean like like honestly Utah without Cam Rising last year was a a great example of how Utah's really existed and thrived in the Pack 12 and that's the struggle you know we're going to it's going to be a knife fight M and you may be bigger and more talented than me and I may lose but you're going to lose next week yeah because you're going to limp out of this thing the the struggle right I mean Travis Wilson isn't going to light you on fire but he's going to do just enough and do this weird gangly run in the fourth quarter that it's going to be in doubt and you're not going to get it done yeah I mean that's the that's the story of how Utah win wins football games and you add in a talented quarterback and some other things and that's how they go to the Rose Bowl or whatever but BYU shouldn't be about the the struggle I don't think that's how they win games I don't think the the the Zone read to generate a run game because the quarterback might keep it one out of four times is not I don't think that's the blueprint down there I don't uh to make a tennis analogy BYU needs to win with their serve and you need to just return the ball right Utah just wants to get these long rallies Michael Chen yeah to return everything real circus out there like you can't get anything by him I mean sliding all over the place diving doing all this sort of thing but to your point and this goes back to your well they just need to find their next Tai dmar and I'm I I'm I'm saying that a little bit but that kind of has been your point and guess who their last TI Demar was his name was Zack Wilson right I mean he was special that and that goes back to the you know A-Rod was doing all these specific things it's like well he had a great player Zack Wilson was a great College I know it goes hand in hand I realize so along those lines you need to have the big serve and if you don't have the big serve you're not going to win the point and that's kind of what BYU has been fighting right now because bannan isn't that redl isn't that Keen slovis wasn't that jiren Hall was kind of that he wasn't Zack Wilson good but he was good enough to win you a bunch of gam but they developed jiren Hall at least and he was the the the next one to go you know it wasn't scramble around to to find your quarterback and even if he did have a quarterback battle in Camp CU colani learned that lesson with Tanner mum years ago that you've always got to be competing for the job he was the the next guy to go they peeled him off the baseball team they saw the potential they they developed him and they haven't they haven't done that here and jiren was mobile too and never were we talking about well thank goodness he can run the Zone read Because if he couldn't run the Zone read I mean we'd never move the football I just can't believe that Tyler aler I right of course I mean all those things this is this is the the Plinko game of just like what which bump are you which Peg are you going to bump off of and go a certain direction you know what we all revert to what we're comfortable with when we're desperate or not desperate is such a strong word I don't I really don't mean to be that hyperbolic I guess but we when when there's adversity we all go back to what we know and we all go back to what we're comfortable with and so there's adversity and I talked to Hans about this on the round table there's adversity at BYU from a job security sense that colani really hasn't faced it's always been with colani about extensions right are you going to give him an extension not you just beat USC or you're going to give him the that's always been the story it hasn't been well is he going to be back next year and I'm not trying to pile on anything but for the first time there is that sentiment in the wind and I think you can feel it in the way that he addresses the media like Jeremiah and and Alex were laughing about salty colani and oh I like salty colani and I told him I said I don't like salty colani I don't CU that's not who he is that's not how he rolls that tells me that there is pressure on him and he takes it seriously that's why maybe salty colani isn't a bad thing I mean he takes it seriously and he's going to coach and and players will tell you that he can be salty you know away from the media and I totally believe that as I would with any coach but that's not really who he is I think he's feeling some pressure I bet A-Rod is feeling some pressure and they're reverting to what they're comfortable with okay but what is that that's that's the interesting thing for me if you say well they go to what is home and what's comfortable I don't know if I can perfectly describe what that is where I can just go to the Bor game for Utah and say that's it play great defense run the ball a little bit be super conservative offensively and your defense is going to return enough serves to give you a chance to win this game because your opponent's going to make a mistake and Baylor did so what is BYU's version of that what is Kanani's safe space at home that allows them to win games you know what what's funny is that like Zack Wilson forced colani and A-Rod to get out of their comfort zone because they were they were grateful to have him you know they flipped him last minute from boisey State they were stoked he was there they needed somebody and they allowed him to develop I remember his freshman year oh you just had so many arguments with Gordon about this uh like his freshman year at the end he had that perfect bowl game right where he didn't miss a pass and then the next year he was hurt and he beat USC the next year but still everybody was like well is he really any good you know and it it was this this crazy doubt that surrounded him and then again it's so disappointing the 2020 season was the way that it was because he just blossomed and he was healthy and he was he was playing like you know like free yeah and I you don't get that freedom if you don't have also the other end where the team's like okay well we're really excited he's here so we're going to let him do you know like the Rockets with James Harden oh we're so just grateful he's on the team we're gon to just let him do whatever he wants and it really worked out well then if you don't have that guy why not where's it been your BYU that's how it works at BYU tough standard I know but your quarterback you're qbu and you know what a lot of people would kill to have that problem kill to have that problem problem is you have a great run of qu qubs historically and you have the ability to get those quarterbacks and the expectation is you have them that's fine that's a good problem to have yeah it is 975 the KSL Sports Zone it's time to break down the biggest stories of the day this is the top three stories of the day on KSL sports.com 975 the KSL Sports [Music] I see your Bad Moon Rising I see trouble on the [Music] way I see wakes and lightning reasons like this Ben I'm I'm going to turn into a six an ESPN Plus subscription does not give you access to stream ESPN's traditional TV networks or the content on them there's a big question tonight because a lot of people are trying to watch the Utah Southern Illinois game uh Southern Utah game excuse me and it's only on ESPN plus and if you sign up for ESPN plus you don't get ESPN ESPN stream all of that you just get to stream the dregs of college foot yeah you'll get like a lot of Cincinnati Reds games or something you get a lot of random weird games in the middle of nowhere a lot of socer 801424 dish is the first thing that I'll say 801424 dish second of all I you know what I'm going to be a Six Flags guy from now on I got to find a new I don't know what what I got to go DreamWorks or something like I I got to get out from under this mouse that's that's ridiculous okay that is ridiculous yeah and then the question is like how many games are going to be on ESPN plus this year so is it worth figuring out is it worth buying ESPN Plus for tonight's game and the games over the weekend or do you just go and find a restaur that's going to show the game and have dinner and then save yourself a bunch of money if I'm a restaurant I'm scrambling today well wow I'd rather have would you rather have Pack 12 Network or have to subscribe to ESPN plus boy you're really giving me some good options there well I mean if you have to get over or if you have to get you know satellite or cable yeah anyway I'd probably rather have the Pack 12 Network I guess I'm with you it's not some extra thing that I'm now arm Twisted into doing way to go everyone huge win huge W all right uh time for the top three stories of the day at KSL sports.com brought to you by J Brooks Jewelers to locations to serve you one on Winchester Street across from fash Place Mall the other at Traverse Mountain in Lehi all right Christian where are we starting today number one it's game day for the youths uh how's the I'm excited to see cam Rising play again yeah I know there's been a lot of talk about oh how quickly can Isaac Wilson get out there and show Utah fans that he has the potential to be the future of the uh of the program man cam Rising is really good cam Rising might retire as second best quarterback in franchise history I just think it's going to be really hard to catch Alex Smith barring catching lightning in a bottle and something really magical happening at Utah this year but he's right there for number two certainly has the most success as a winner at Utah with what he did in the Pack 12 and now going to the big 12 yeah I'm excited to see him get out there and play again and he's fun to watch he's a fun football player to watch um I wonder in a game where they should win comfortably you know how much he lets it Loose does that make any sense CU he's the way cam Rising lets it Loose isn't necessarily you know what you do in a game like this so I I'm I will be most curious I guess been to sum it up in attempts how many attempts does he have given how long he plays and what's what's the offense going to look like from a run pass balance standpoint I'm really curious to see if it changes he has said and Utah has said that they expect to be more pass heavy this year because they have Dorian singer and bran keithy is back and they've got money Parks they like some of the receiving core that they have they've got Landon King at tight end so they've got a deep room there but also this first game I want to figure out who who can carry the rock I want to know who's going to be consistent because as we talked about when things go bad at Utah you go safe and when you go safe that means you have a reliable running back who picks up yards and a stellar defense they know they've got the Stellar defense who's the running back so I try and figure that out today as much as possible I bet you know I guess that's I guess that's my point I've been hearing well this is the year that Utah's going to cut the offense loose man they're going to sling it all over the park I've been hearing that forever I'm actually curious to see if it comes to fruition like by need as you referenced the Run game like you don't have anybody you feel comfortable with carrying the load or by Advantage which is the other thing you mentioned where you have all these receivers tight ends Etc and you feel like the passing game for the first time ever is your Edge I'll be curious to see how that plays out I also want to see Brant keithy I want to see how keithy looks he's more than a year removed from the last time he stepped on the field how does he look because again I know Dalton concade stepped in and kind of erased the memory of how good brand keithy was but there was a reason brand keithy was ahead of dton concade in the pecking order at that point and it wasn't because brand it wasn't it wasn't because Utah misread the situation they just happened to have maybe the best two tight ends in the country at the same time but brand keithy was really really good he was an extraordinarily high level player so I'm excited to see where he is healthwise getting back onto the field because he should dominate this type of game well he made a may not play I mean because Caleb loner is going to going to be an All-American so did you know he's 6'8 he's you know he's got a 36 in he's going to catch every touchdown Brandt's not even getting GNA Get Off the Bench I I have seen or heard a lot of people saying like well you get him in the Red Zone use them there I'm like you know who I'd rather use brand keithy right like Landon King guys who have proven that they can do it I I get it guys Brent keithy is as much of a mismatch for opposing defenses as Caleb loner be in fact more so why not throw it to your offensive tackle yeah they're big they're probably tall it's probably tall yeah yeah with all with with with room for Caleb loner to grow and figure it out and it would be cool if he has this great story but if Utah needs him at any point it's a little bit Troublesome you shouldn't need Caleb loner at any point you know who ruined all these stories honestly is Ziggy anaw because he was a gimmicky story like these are gimmicky stories think of uh who was the Monstrous offensive lineman that Utah brought in or maybe it was a d lineman remember he was like well there was the one guy who was like 500 lb that BYU recruited that never saw the field uh there's been any number of of rugby players that are supposed to be the next greatest thing uh like there there these kind of stories that catch everybody's eye right and and loner is only the latest but Ziggy is the only one I can really think of that was like Mo longi at BYU yeah zigg is the only one I could think of like turned into like it played out you know what I mean yeah you know what was a really successful story was Thomas yasman who was a rugby player who came over to Utah and was their third string tight end scored a couple of touchdowns and got a cup of coffee with the Broncos this year in the preseason it's like that's a huge success story it's a little bit of a gimmick but that was a huge success story that would be absolutely best case scenario for Caleb loner and I'm not betting on it all right what's next number two jiren Hall was waved by the Vikings Tyler Huntley was cut by the Browns well that sucks yeah that stinks it's just bad news that is bad news um you know I I would be surprised if both of them didn't get another bite at the Apple in some way shape or form what I worry about with Tyler Hunley is that the book on him or not the book because I don't even know how true it is but the the narrative was was that Baltimore was the only place he could play because his game mirrored that of Lamar Jackson and if he were to get hurt you could plug in Tyler Hunley and they could do similar things I hope that that's not true for him I hope he gets the opportunity to prove out and be like no I'm a I'm a quarterback I'm not you know just uh uh under study does that make any sense like I'm not I'm not just the body double no I am uh Mel Gibson [Laughter] he will he will land with the practice squad somewhere and inevitably in the middle of the Season he will get called up and have a chance to play as will jiren Hall the exact same thing is going to happen it's tough that they got waved after surviving that initial 53 man roster cut uh but then teams tighten up see who else get waved uh and decide to make moves there so uh I hope they both make it back I hope they both get chances to maybe start again in the NFL but at least uh land on a a normal roster the nice thing is you know Tyler Huntley made a decent amount of money playing for Baltimore for a couple of years we'll see if jiren Hall can back some of that up as well it's tough NFL's brutal and quarterback's basically impossible to make it when Brett rippen gets signed over you in Minnesota that's tough how hard it to make it well Brett's old man was probably doing some lobbying Mark ripping and I don't trust the Vikings all that much as a team as an organization nor the Browns so well well yeah they ran off Kurt Cousins way to go for Sam darnold congratulations and then think that keeping Jefferson during a rebuild is a good idea yeah all right uh what's next number three it's a packed slate of college football games tonight my Minnesota Golden go first taken on USC that might be the highlight I thought you said UNC is it USC UNC what did I say did I just say USC UNC yeah North Carolina is is North Carol South Carolina and Southern car all different yeah uh UNC excuse me um but also Colorado back in Action tonight oh soft old Dion going up against uh North Dakota State yeah that's the game on ESPN so if you have ESPN plus you will not get that remember but how hilarious would it be if North toota State ran over him like if that game's close it's a really bad sign like physically just ran over him hilarious yeah you cannot have this game be within a touch down at halftime well if it is you better not uh point that out or else answer your questions anymore you're out of there Ben but yeah fun games excited to have this back and then uh tomorrow morning excited to recap what did happen over the weekend and the the games we can look back at and then get ready for Saturday uh you really into the uh Sacramento State San Jose State game uh that's a good game only uh what two points the spread there I'm excited for that Coastal Carolina Jacksonville State Duane Toledo yes please but six o'clock tonight North Carolina Minnesota probably the best game on the docket Central Michigan Central Connecticut see if I were Kevin Graham I'd get ESPN plus because there's no way Central Michigan is on TV ever go chips fire up chips so you're telling me I have to sign up for ESPN plus and it's just the dregs that's all I get is the dgs yeah but if you're a sicko that works out and then access Brian wind horse's stupid new thing or something or does he have a new thing I don't know what what do you get with ESPN plus I don't know I don't have it I'm gonna have to figure out what to do tonight I'm telling you that Mouse greedy greedy greedy brutal about to get $20 a month from you and I probably I don't know might be coming over to your house okay I'll buy it you bring chips but I'll tell you if I'm a restaurant today I'm probably scrambling I've been at enough sports bars that have no clue about that sort of thing that like if you if you know the owner of a sports bar call them today and say dude you got to have ESPN plus got to have it or you're going to have a riot on your hands raise all of your food items by a quarter and by the end of the day it'll pay for the month all right stay tuned we'll have more next live from Peach doors and windows come see us 2940 South 300 West right here in Salt Lake Jake and Ben 975 the KSL Sports Zone your home for the best college football coverage in Utah is on the KSL Sports song it's a Thursday night opener for the youths as they welcome in southern Utah to Rice eckle Stadium your home for the best coverage of Utah football is right here on 975 the KSL Sports Z this is Jake Scott and Ben Anderson on 975 the KSL Sports so you wired me awake and hit me with a hand of broken Nails you tied my lead and pull my chain to watch my blood begin to boil Jac and Ben 975 the KSL Sports Zone want to remind you to join Hansen Scotty on Thursdays that's today from 1:00 to 3 for the Youth preview show brought to you by hiive meals proud partner of Utah Athletics Ben we are live at Peach doors and windows 2940 South 300 West drop on by an see us you gonna be tailgating hard tonight Ben sure yeah you're gonna be hitting it I uh I do have a smoker it weighs 10,000 pounds yeah did you move that thing I did my dad he's a sculptor you know so he has to be able to move his sculptur so he actually has a little crane in the back of his truck that was extreme helpful and it still almost killed me coming off the truck so well you got to put that thing to to you I know I maybe I will maybe I'll uh you do pizzas or whatever not that I'm trying to sell you a smoker I'm just saying I got some options tonight well I uh my family can't eat for the foreseeable future because I got to subscribe to some stupid thing that watch this game you're not going to have any grocery money I should call for a credential I can't I I I can't possibly you know my kids can't go to college now cuz cuz I got to stream 15 different stupid things just to watch sports 975d KSL Sports Zone