how do you separate your emotional connection towards these you know relationships knowing they're not going to stay with you long term those relationships knowing that you're not going to potentially commit long term like how do you how do you navigate the emotions of knowing like hey this is a lot of fun and we're hanging out and connecting for a few months but also knowing this isn't the guy for me I think there's kind of sex is important so when you're having a good sexual relationship with someone that doesn't always mean you love them it means you have fun with them and that that actually could be a pull but you you you can't be blindsided by that um emotion and that hormone that's a challenge that bonds a lot of people right it's very bonding because there's extreme things that happen after your orgasm you know where you're having all these hormones you know and oxytocin and all this stuff that makes you feel very close to that person um but I think we have to conversations with ourselves private conversations with ourselves and look at the truth uh of what this is and I was with someone and I just had the best time and he's I know he was really funny and you know really great not going to be the father really no because for me I wanted to know that I would find someone who loves my children as much as I do wow and I wasn't going to take anything less wow yeah wow that's that's interesting it it sounds like so you were married twice before correct and then we were talking off camera about how you you met um you met him in the same year I was born about months before I was born you guys met you kurk right I know I mean it was so crazy looking at you because 41 years ago man I'm a man you met him 41 years ago you were a man and you came out of baby boy that crazy so funny a MTH after you guys met where he got together yeah I came out you did and what if you can go back to that time how have you been able to make that work where you guys have been able to you know raise two different families come together join families and be happily together for 41 years in this industry we both look at each other go oh my God can you believe it um you have to want a relationship to work you just do I mean there's all kinds of arguments that come up and things you don't agree on and all this stuff and you know I mean Kurt and I don't have a big you know we don't always align politically and um but you know I I like him I I you know whatever he thinks or all this stuff I think well you know that's his thought so you have to individuate um because you're you're your man or your woman is not ever going to be everything the perfect dream and they're not going to be just like you you know I think if I had somebody agreeing with me all the time i' go crazy because there's no friction there's no so but when you get into these dilemmas and and having a relationship to um sex and all the things that go that happen when you're on a movie set um it really turn it's like a family and then you can you can actually create these relationships that are feel very deep they feel very connected and it is it's a caution because there could be relationships that are happening there that you're not even aware of and all of a sudden you're realizing that's all I'm thinking about and you got somebody at home boyfriend or husband or whatever and I think men are more vulnerable in many ways because they're they're more uh you know sort of visually active it's they they don't necessarily want to marry the person but you know they want to excuse a French you know do the yeah and uh so that's kind of who you know who it how it works and um so it's fragile you know because you can't help but think oh my God I mean he's going to work it was such a beautiful girl I mean I mean God how's he going to resist that how did you navigate that when he might be on set doing a you know intimate scene or something or with beautiful people around and how did you guys both navigate that you're doing the different scenes as well you just navigate it you just you just know that you know but she's beautiful and whatever and you know you realize that men are little different than women you know they're you know they can have reactions in ways that women can hide or don't we're much more uh skillful I would say and who got us excited um but you know I I don't feel that we had many challenges that really no I mean I certainly he didn't for me and I did for him probably a few times I just just natural natur got insecure or jealous a little bit or something I was never jealous that's a different word um but I I've always been sort of thinking about what if um and it you know and he was so you know sexy and great and such a brilliant actor but you know at the end of the day through all of these things children and and parents and our par parents and all the different things that you go through the different houses you build or that you have or the time you are the time you spend with your children then your grandchildren start coming and and what happens is is that if you like that person if you want to be together if one person doesn't want to be together because they feel they're getting older and now they have to be with a young person or to you know Shore up their you know their security about being a man and I'm whatever and that happens a lot lot particularly with wealthy men so that happens there's all this crap that can happen right but if two people don't want it to happen and only one does forget it it's not going to work if the two people want that because we love family because this where we're together we we love each other we love to play together we love we've got great sex together you get through this stuff at the end of the day when your grandchildren start coming you have a whole whole different I would say feeling of Springtime because you kind of fall in love again really yep if you've done it right you're there for each other and as people get older there's more vulnerability but if you're together then that's supporting each other and it's very loving and it's just amazing e