THURSDAY NIGHT CHAT - BEST SQUAD UNDER PEP? PLUS UCL DRAW OUTCOME #mcfc #mancity #ucl #pl #whufc

oh [Music] oh [Music] oh [Music] good evening welcome back to the manun in way my name is Martin I'm your host joined by our very own Ricky Rick how are you mate very good very good thank you feels weird to have you w two shows in a week what I mean yeah I'm almost back to normal now apart from having to get Britain in a couple how does it feel to be a part-time owner all right well I feel a bit like you know a shake to be honest oh dear what you just coming at the important time yeah I'll be there for the Champions League final what does that well if you were you'd be a very rich tea lady so I wouldn't be complaining well T L's getting 10 grand that's pretty good who gets 10 grand doing this job whoa 10 grand I meant tady at City all right say that's a bonus and of course Luke City Luke TV right before anyone says why is luk on at this time he's not in work tomorrow so that's why I have offered up my time to you Martin I thought it was at least time I reciprocated and got on the channel for a full episode anyway not just for 10 minutes and disappear because I'm too tired but I'm going to Slug It Out see how long I can last and hopefully it's all stream for you no worries might appreciate it and Tony is going to join us in about 15 minutes as well um Ethan hello how are you mate Stephanie is with us so is Conor Paro Oaks the legend that is Paro is with us I'm happy with our champions We are going to talk about that Conor rigar Douglas Wright is with us no I don't think there'll be anything before the deadline tomorrow no have short and sweet answered on that one quiet day for sitter we got to sit back and watch probably nobody do any business pars of things Matt londy good evening I'm happy that we're going to talk about that kind about Rico as well and Jack and Stones there and of course um all the other names GNA have me add oh frig Jon Stones thank you frig M you know when you get a mind blank I just had it then yeah c walk is out chel losing again I didn't even know they were playing tells you how much I'm I'm bothered about that one um Chloe throwing in the 115 I love these Chelsea fans throw 115 there it Chelsea are playing and they're in a city stream I mean they only just SC through against seret it gets better I mean keep them in listen we allow opposition fans in so mods unless to being idiots 115 is a bit of banter especially from a Chelsea fan considering they've got a [ __ ] load of charges coming the way because they they're only buying players because they won't be allowed to buy anyone till 2035 evening beo how are you mate um all on eighty year contracts yeah I do apologize I was late I was back from me I was late but being honest we should get eight wins out of eight from our group we're gonna kick I'm gonna kick off with that because me and Luke have just been having an argument because everyone's having arguments now because if anyone can explain this damn format to me in a minute can they do because I thought I was watching I thought I was watching Who Wants To Be A Millionaire three hours ago race press a button press a button Bo your the fixtures are there fixed Mar don't confuse the league with the draw are you are you ready to sh you shut down Martin so are you ready I'm just get through the calm down down again for few others yeah well they're going to play against Watford uh Martin is gaggling ready to sing oh I think MC Nunes will play against Watford I probably guarantee you they will Connor um MC is gonna get a new contract as well which is good million for him delighted for M yeah I said per want listen all I want to say is let's let's come back to this conversation in six months that's all I'm going to say let's see in six months I hope it up I hope it works for him but I've had this debate thousand times I'm not seeing where he's going to get in at the moment um I'm seeing people not going to W because the price is still going to pound 50 pound listen I was expecting more than 150 pound I'll be honest with you um did you get pre-sale I'm not the email yet but you got till 5:00 p.m. tomorrow to get the email code I was going to say I haven't had the email yet and um I'm I'm nervous no because earlier no lb did a show earlier and he confused the L because he went pre-sales on sale tomorrow at 9:00 a.m. no it's not pre-sale is not for 9:00 am. tomorrow maybe for one or two others but if you've gone in the ballot this is my understanding because I had the email earlier I'm in the ballot probably like everyone else if you get drawn out of that ballot you will get a code that code is usable straight away from when you get it is it it's only for one ticket as well is it no four one person one person four tickets looks like I'm losing 600 Quid if I get that Cod so it is there must be a pre-sale some some tomorrow but I'm not sure I think that's a specialized one um but the yes it is it's all up and running right um Pat is with us think he's in attack sir hello every how are we no so bad are you sober this week am I what this week are you sober just checking yeah I'm fine thanks drones put 150 no chance right it starts from 80 70 so calm down if you can pay 70 you ought to be in the gods doesn't start at 150 so um as a brues fan of city van I can't hope brues be sitting the Champions League oh says Al are you not bring Allen on Allan is having some Allan is dealing with some things with his family Allan's having time away he's dealing with family issues at the moment um he quite serious so we send all our love to Allan um Allan's going to be away for a bit there you go right um let's get into it then so City have done the Champions League J I will go through your comments as well keep smashing that thumbs up so rich here we go then so sit here have been faced will play Inter malan at home PSG away Club blues at home Juventus away fard at home sporting Le's been away Sparta prag at home and saavan Bratislava away there is the order has not been announced yet that will be announced I believe on Saturday match day one is going to be on the 17th to the 19th of September match day two first second of October match day three 22 23rd of October you miss Rich's dogs match day four 5ifth and 6th November match day five 26 to 27th November Match Day 6 10th or the 11th of December my birthday uh match day 7 2122 of January and match day 8 29th of January and then The Knockouts begin on the 11th and 12th and the 18th and 19th of February right Rich what did you make of it all well I I guess I I think they seem to be making things possibly worse than they were because what's going to happen now is the big games matter less and battering the small teams matters more so they've done this to get more competition But ultimately you've got to get in the top eight and you know it's not going to matter so much anymore whether you beat the other good team in your group and so previously had two big games now it's going to be who can smash the bottom teams the best and get the goal difference up because places at the top there's going to be so many teams on the same points and places at the top are going to be decided by who goes and sticks eight goals past bratislav or Kazakhstan or or whoever else so so I actually think um whilst possibly you'll have slightly more games with something riding on them it's going to make things far more one-sided there's going to be some really awful games and uh there isn't going to be that kind of rivalry of playing two teams playing the team twice so I'm not sure it's going to be any better I mean they've expanded it whereas really the truth is if you wanted it better you had to have six groups of four instead of eight groups of four in better teams so that the groups were all stronger and they've gone the other way so I think it's going to be absolute you know it's going to be far less emotional far less kind of stuff riding on the games until you get to the last one or two when teams might be in ninth place and can sneak into the top eight but so yeah I think they're just probably probably going to damage the Champions League intriguing intriguing you are not the only one who said that today Luke first of all I mean what did you think of the game show at the beginning quite fun when it press a button hey Presto there they are do you know what I was leaving work so I didn't get a chance to see it I haven't watched it back yet I don't tend to watch him because it's just a fiasco of kind of PR I was waiting for Chris Tarrant to appear yeah maybe an Robinson with the weakest link I don't know it never like press a button bang I wasn't expecting all the fixtures just to be there ready yeah it hasn't been it hasn't been advertised very well because we had that video explaining it all and we all kind of sat there still and thought what is this I think it's interesting to see how it works I think that's the main thing that I want to see um of course from obviously the eight games that we play eight games that we play and then see how it transpires from there but it's a New Concept I think we're all kind of setting SC obviously we always traditional format group stages got then go into Knockouts and of course that's always the case um but yeah we'll wait and see but other than that I think there's some interesting games in there obviously we'll probably go into it but it's something new we you know we all don't like change let's be honest but we'll just have to wait and see how it transpires I think no set group just top eight yeah it do you know what it was to me before com to you P was probably the way it was done on the TV it was still done in a group format when you looked at it on the TV the way they did it all if you go back and watch TNT he came out as a group and that was a great and he came out there in blocks like that I was expecting just have teams bang straight in the league but he P my you're you know driving in your tax okay so let me get this straight because I was Airborne while this draw was happening it was just basically a case of pushing a button and everything was sort of preset already was it yeah that's why I said there's nod in that then so basically so basically this this season's Champions League group stage uh format or show was basically an hour of talking about who were the best players of last season were and then a bunch of Swiss bankers and one former UFA player arguing over who's gonna push a freaking button that basic was that basically it because that's what it sounded like to me it was Ronaldo R9 Ronaldo or ronnie7 good thing I was Airborne then no it was sounds like another another bunch of just another bunch of convoluted bollocks from your wa through and um look yeah the big the big problem I have now with this format is is why why they got eight teams when and they're saying it's now a more more of a league format yet last I checks when you play when you play in a league format you have to play every team once or home and once away we're not doing that anymore so this to me just sounds more like a round robin with a knockout tournament coming in 2025 I don't get it it doesn't make sense I think it's stupid and it just it actually I I I'm only maybe maybe I'm jet like but it's just making me um it just makes me miss the old format a little bit more and let's be honest the second yeah you need to pay attention to Australian sport mate because what you know the n and the AFL don't play every team Home and Away in a league format you play R teams twice so it's you know every League 20 if every League had 20 teams M they're different story but that's in baseball in hockey in basketball in American football you don't play all the teams Hing away twice it's you know it's the Swiss format but it's it's actually not uncommon in sport around the world that you don't play home and away twice it's a it's a real football thing that you do that but in most other sports that doesn't happen I understand that but a I mean let's go through atin biller got Bayern Munich at home Li away Juventus at home Club Brew away Celtic at home young boys away mono away yeah did you say did you say Aston Villa has Juventus yeah they've got because we've got because we've got Juventus as well don't we so we' got them away though yeah okay Arsenal have got PSG at home Inter Milan away thees home at Atlanta away Zagreb at home sporting liban away Monaco at home Jona away Celtic Villa away lsig at home Dortmund away Club Bru at home Atalanta away young boys at home if you actually look we're all playing generally the same damn teams at some point although I think there's a I think there's a in the draw you only allowed to play a team from the same two teams from the same Association so you can't play three Italian teams you can only play two you can't play three Spanish teams you can only play two that's why the that's why the draw took so long I thought why are they both in there but I realized that at no point do they play each other anyway yeah and you can't play your home you can't play that's why the draw was so complicated cuz they try to draw teams and make a draw where no one can play someone else more than from another country more than two teams and no one can play their own country and they're in four parts must have been a bloody nightmare like cracking the Enigma code to make the draw even work sure might have got point a part away they've tried to make it better and appreciate it's hard to them but what between City and the Dog and Duck and City versus brat Slava yeah but we could have had brattis Slava home and away in the old format I mean that was the that's why they change the reason they changed it was because in the old format you were playing Home and Away against two teams that were often seen as a waste of time but they might have actually made it worse yeah I just I don't know it is now now you have to go and batter them whereas in the past you could be like we've already won the group now we've got we've got to beat them six yeah because you know what we've gone from do you remember where away gos didn't count technically now gold difference is going to count into some of this it's going to be massive it's going to be huge it's gold difference will be huge because you're going to have so many teams on the same number of points and goal difference now decides it so banging six or seven goals past the Lesser teams will now be a big you know big thing for the teams you want to be in the top eight because being 10th or seventh might be about whether you batted someone six nil or 40 and that isn't going to be a good look for UEFA and that's going to be their problem because that will be in January it's going to be about who batters the most goals past cless of team it's just going to be uh putting the the teams with the highest coefficient on on more of the pedestal by the way good evening T how are you good night in you right good to see you all thanks for having me on loving the top hey it's the official I took it off I bought it a few days ago bed Tak it a bed mate out for the day I'm wearing it all day every day I can smell you from here yeah I just thought with you you probably could then do you know what I'm with Matt car today I'm gon to come back soon I'm just jumped a few comments and I will come back to but I then this is it tone want to get your thoughts on this stuff today some have liked it some haven't I'm with mik Harris this has always been a tested for the Super League down the road this uh this the new champions league for yeah this is a test for it see how it goes with me yeah possibly I I like it I like the new format I think it puts more pressure on the games I think that was possibly what you guys were alluding to as I come on but it puts a bit more pressure on having to win those games uh there's bigger games better games across all of the groups or whatever you want leagues or whatever you want to call it and I think the quality will improve so I get the cons but I like it I I think the pros outweigh it and I think the previous version was outdated and just got a bit boring you know just watching the DRS the same old same old and Luke said on his show it was you know we're facing Dortmund every two years or leig every year it's same bloody thing I I am grow to it to be fair like the fast of the [ __ ] actual show as people are saying doesn't seem the best but the actual format of itself I am growing to it like I as we discussed earlier but I just think we have to wait and see how it all works this season I think until we kind of see how it all goes and how the format actually works and if there's any actual benefit to it then we'll see you know everyone will Vice their opinions towards the end but who knows it could it could throw it could throw a lot of Cur more curve balls in rather than having you know these defined group stages where you've got like City like we said there Dortmund PSG and someone else in a group where you know nine times out of 10 it's probably going to be City and PSG that go through Dortmund in the Europa League yeah potentially it could now be a case of you know because there's eight automatic spots and 16 in the playoffs you could have one team that hit a real Purple Patch throughout these group games and end up in that automatic eight whereas previously they might have had what then going qualifi like they might have came third in the group because they're playing the less amount of games and then go and end up playing Europa League and struggling it could be a case rinse and repeat as well sorry sorry MK just quickly adding to what Luke said it was just quick rinse and repeat too because you know if we if we play a fixtures the way we should play them then um just left here mate left here um if we play our fixtures um if we play our fixtures the way we meant to play them then it'll be just the same as previous Seasons where you know we could end up with two or three dead rubbers to finish the group stages so I think they have to change something rich rich stop one sec Pat if you're G when you're pay in please go on mute oh it's automatic sorry I know we're going I just need to I was just going to say I think that the sad reality is they probably had to change something and whether this makes it better or worse the sad reality is the group stage was getting utterly utterly tedious so they had to change something because we were all complaining that no one was interested in the Champions League till the last you know sometimes the last eight because the last is often pretty D my because Al great Point here the new format is terrible for lower league teams Club Bru becomes because Al is a club Bru fan and a city fan and Club Bru becomes a champion which we've done so in four and five seasons we're stuck in the UCL no dropping down to UEFA and no chance to win in Europe see but I don't agree with that because then this surely now should push them to compete in the Champions League but they're not going to compete Luke you know yeah but you yeah of course like let's be realistic they probably won't but so many teams have had that comfortability of if they don't compete in the Champions League all we'll get third place we'll go in the Europa League and compete but they get theyve they've also got a very good champ teams yeah you got a very good chance of 12 games and that's what that's why it's it's you know that's the AR theyve brought this slightly in they've brought this very like me and Tom discussed it earlier they've brought this in very slightly after the Super League news yeah you know that that was being formed they brought this in after all the com camaraderie of the super league and stuff like that on the slide you know so damage limitations but it's also a case of how many City fans we see online saying oh I'd much rather running the Europa League because it's better ways and stuff like that this is now bringing teams in that probably would have played the Europa League or had to qualify for the Europa League so it's given more opportunities for lower league teams to kind of get that exposure yeah that's the only other thing I can think of really well no the big thing is they'll get 12 games if if they do well can get 12 games they get eight group games if you come if you come above what 24th so if they can get themselves out of the bottom eight they'll then get another two games so that's 10 games and then you've got a chance to win one game against a big team in a knockout and you've had 12 games and and at least six of those will been against really big teams finally does anyone know this by the way this can be to anyone on the panel I think it does I think it does for SE round yeah yeah it does for the yeah yeah that what that seeded and unseeded was on about when it go to that ground yeah yeah so it depends on that but always do a difference between first and fourth yeah it's all SE still seeding yeah one to eight and it'll be eight it'll be 9 to 16 that'll also be SE so your first you get 16 from your second you get what is that I don't know it could be something like that or it could be a case of you know if youve like from one to eight you can't play anyone from the one to eight again it'll be as long as you're in that top four then you don't necessarily have to come first in the P yeah potentially it could be a case of you know one one to eight can't play each other in the first round so it could be like say one to8 will play someone from 9 to 16 yeah and then it'll format itself out from that way like I said we're probably going to have to see this in action and you know this first season's GNA have issues that people AR on that because it's all right us saying well this gives these chance more CH if it ends up Real Madrid City in Liverpool and everyone else just rolling through again it's not done the job yeah me and tomor were saying this could be a year where you see you know Aston Villa have got a favorable draw this could be a season where you see teams like Aston Villa and that really surprised people in my opinion yeah and the other thing I reckon it will introduce in inide domestic football is there's going to be a thing now about which of the English clubs is is highest you that they will that the papers are going to publish little league tables of the four Spanish teams or the five Spanish teams the four English teams to see his top so it's going to bring a bit of it will bring a bit of rivalry in that we're above the scouters you know that'll be that'll be you know because if the scousers are the top english team there's going to be big tables of four clubs on the top of every news I don't think the Scout is I hope not no the depth that they have they'll struggle in this competition and that's what this is promoting Squad dep I mean you you're saying Billy get through I think so because they've got by Munich at home Villa Park's a tough place to go no you talk like Bayern Munich is a wet white Club there no disrespect I thought Villa's group was pretty pretty good or table or whatever their group again Martin I I'll give you a rundown of each I'm going to predict each their groups by Munich see Bayern Munich's at home Li's away that's a draw Juventus at home a win Club Bru away a win win that Celtic at home win a win young boys away we're loss hang in a minute this is a team who couldn't beat Arsenal yeah you say they going to roll into Bayern Munich and just turn him we we yeah we're the best we the best team in the world and we didn't beat him last year yeah what we doing here yeah young boys are TV what's going on look look the old thing is is money orientated I was reading in the time absolutely was today they've got 16 new sponsors that they brought in since this new format or whatever you want to call it it's all money orientated the clubs have been promised more money that's it's cynical I know business first and all that sort of thing but it's true it's money orientated you know we can talk about the format and all this it's more games more money big clubs have been promised more Super leagues died down for it or sorry the Breakaway leagues have been died down a little bit Real Madrid and so on you know what's coming next you said it earlier Super league and so on which is even more money and yeah yeah we'll see but it's it's money point it's it's easy time last time they were in the Champions League they beat Leto Porto and leusen didn't matter to them because there was no chance of them winning it but they went into the conference league and got all the way to the seers that's now for them yeah I get that yeah that's the that slide caus 20 years ago with all due respect I know what you're doing you're looking it from a city mindset and we are because we're looking at the the the advanced part teams aren't doing that there's 18 teams with no chance of winning the Premier League this year does that mean they should go and play in the championship and we should just play Arsenal away I mean no no no no rich but hang in a minute uni emry made a career out wi in the Europa League on the UFA cup yeah no you're not wrong but you know a villa gonna look at their draw no no you're absolutely right but Villa will probably look at their draw and go that could have been a lot worse and probably you know I you've got you've got Villa and someone else mixed you you you looking at Real Madrid you not right yeah you can see how it becomes the the uh Super League though because it you got what yeah 36 36 teams in it today in a couple of years time they'll say we'll move it to 24 because no no 24 because the um you know there's too many not very good teams in it and instead of playing eight of them we'll go up to Ping 12 and then a couple years after that said well we may will just make it 20 and then you just play everyone once and then and you know it' be very very easy to turn it into a to a Super League you know or two super leagues division one and division two I mean and you think it's gonna it's it's GNA happen I mean surely this is about ultimately having a two 16 team leagues of which you play everyone twice and it's a proper proper League make no mistake Bru will want to be in the Champions League they will they won't want to drop to the Europa because the money's in the champ League they if they had the choice of being in the champ League or the Europa they say the champ League every time because of the money and I know I'm making the same Point again but it's similar really to jolter Who Do Euro qualification they lose 8 n n every game what they learning nothing absolutely nothing but for them it's an event they get to play rodri and Spain and you know Germany and all these buted 140 off France didn't they and you know what yeah but to yeah sorry that's the difference between that's the difference between the owners and the money and the club and the fans because I remember remember when Wigan beat us in the FA Cup and got relegated the owners would have the owners would have def desperately stayed up kept the Premier League money and lost the FA Cup but every single Wigan fan would said I'd rather win the FA Cup and get relegated because we'll remember the FA Cup forever and relegation going to happen sooner or later but the owners losing the 100 Mill in a season from the Premier League they would have been our will Tech staying up 17th lose the FA Cup every day of the week because for the business and for the buying players in the future that's better but for fans yeah I guess you want to see winning something if you're Bru and you winning Europa League you probably remember that forever but get the last of the Champions League Rich know because I've got a big pot I've been banging on about I just need to get these done because Luke Mark and bran have been ever so generous Luke has renewed his membership for two months thank you so so much and then Mark Harris as he always does now every stream mate has gifted five memberships thank you so much across the board and then bran has continued their membership for a 14th month I think that is from the GetGo when we began membership so thank you you are all within a shout now we coming on in September and co-hosting a show with Rich o and so we're happy and he pep papy more than you believe more than you believe I [Applause] Havey keep saying it name me another channel that has pep but come on no long it took me to get pep to record that did you ring him 98% on the phone yeah did this is my issue now with football when I getting really bit and listen I get it football and I'm meaning fans now celebrate money they celebrate money and it's really peing me off to be fair Martin can I just say Luke and I are accountants so we're we're money people or we're qualified accountants so we love money mate oh he's on mute you're on mute mate unmute r i get it listen I'm told I won't say but rich is a CFO right I know all about what goes on she why I have this argument Rich a thousand times you accountant CFOs you all the actual outnumbered don't care I don't care I don't go into Morrison and get my bank balance out and start checking what Summit was six months earlier Alex I mean I don't I I agree I don't care about the monetary side of football but it is it's become what L 20 years ago in main Ro you were not sat there going if we get in the Champions League that gives us an extra no absolutely not and I still don't to this day and I can see where you're going with this because money has become the root of all evil in football and I think it's killed football it has you you know yours like we discussed it the other night on my stream you know the fact that I nearly got myself into trouble by talking about tourist but I won't go into it again it is the way the club look at it now because they look at me you know all F like me well one who's like gone to a game for a long time you know I might spend top 20 quid in The Concourse Ops on top of my season ticket but you will get someone who would sit in my seat for a oneoff spend 1500 quid on a flight spend another grand in the club shop and then going and spend another couple of hundred quid in The Concourse getting pissed right they would much rather have a stadium full of them because their match day Revenue would rock it than someone like me who's a tight bastard who only wants to spend 20 quid on a drink or so yeah look at that monetarily you know what I mean oh it's a business football's a business it it is not the fans though but no but the fans are taking this sentiment on because so many like other rival fans are like getting away with doing a badass job and a substandard job because we've made second place a trophy we've made fourth place a trophy under venga that suddenly became something to celebrate and let's have a parade and the actual silverware of winning The League Cup because you only get two million quid for it bollocks that's no good yeah anymore yeah I Martin I think that's a bit unfair on our honestly if you come second to the greatest manager English football's ever seen knew you art has probably done a better job than plenty of people have winning the league in other Seasons because he said in the press conference didn't he that he was like oh well you know if you at the top for the longest of time then that show something does it [ __ ] he didn't win jack [ __ ] and but at the end of at the end of their careers they kep what they gonna do get the bank balance out yeah yeah I think I he not I want that next Ben trophy Martin it's as simple as that I count it as a proper trophy now but then nobody can ever take the piss out of AR Kane again when he said they never W out anyone say what's he won the Audi cup AI cup yeah and and and the Malaysian do matter though because he got spur second and got the all M he won the Malaysian cup though with Bayern Munich recently don't forget that the thing is but but without but without money in sponsorship I know but without that we don't sign vers M or whoever comes up next summer money is a huge part of the success to go so for Aral City then sorry I missed that city won all them trophies yeah won anything and I'm feels like I'm gonna get killed by Arsenal mans I'm using an example because of the difference in trophies they haven't won the trophies we have does Howland go to arand be offering one Winer well more money I don't know if it's even money it's City because of pet is the main reason this I'm it's really troubling me this as a football fan it's really troubling there talking about the football based but unfortunately because of how successful we've been you have rival fans that have to bring money into the constitution of everything because it's not a Cas C tonight tons no but do you not agree like because we're winning so much on the pitch people have to bring the money into it in a conversation like oh you no no because you know me L if City never want a TR I'm watching City because I love set I don't careine we're the same but what I'm trying to say is because we've had success on the pitch M people are now trying to compete with us in a monetary sense yeah and because we're succeeding at that people just bring that in constantly like the financial dping the 115 and football has gone into a monetary thing because of how successful we have been for one for example and also the likes of Real Madrid and stuff like that so they bring money into it to try and create like and divert another argument rather than their feelings on the actual football pitch well yeah but football but football isn't just about money since Man City come along football's been about money since the Premier League started Manchester United so so football's been about money since the early 1900s Sunderland was the bank of England Club no no but nor I'm Really Gonna P I'm gonna piss every AR yeah because I'm gonna piss every Arsenal fan off because if you go and research their history they were do AF D FC or something like that and their owner they were going to be in division two but their owner had that much money and power that they cheated out Spurs yeah they were wet resarch that were W city won a trophy before they you know what Scout scousers will ever mention is in today's terms they spent 85 million they spent 85 million and 65 million in today's terms on players as a championship side when bill shankley came in because Bas you know they spent what three quarters of the world record Fe the time as a championship Club on buying a player and then over half the world record Fe of the time buying a player so it football's always been about money it always will be it went to a new stratosphere is yeah yeah oh yeah went to a new Stratosphere with Abramovic first then it went to obviously us and the Qatar but then Qatar really ruined the inflation of football because of that nmar transfer I still think we would have record signings at 3040 50 million if it wasn't for that Nar transfer okay we're going to move on and mix to the next subject so we got I'm gonna when to put a button on this my whole point is I understand what people are saying I get the money and you want the big players and you want the huge but what the trouble is we're seeing that bubbles burst yeah PSR I said this a long time ago PSI has now stopped it because they've had to put a massive handbreak onto it but as it man united finished eight and spent 200 million again yeah but they they're gonna have to sell and also they got help we know there's suit dodging going on there there's a par there's particular anomalies to it all there is know haven't spent a lot Liverpool have spent 10 million quid Newcastle arsal haven't spent a lot they've spent 800 million over the last five years know it's what this summer and that my Stream So point I'm you don't does not like Liverpool and assle the point make right look at like Newcastle are gonna spend nothing they're going with a big fat Zero by the end of this one it has killed it because they have to put the handbreak on to get everyone back into l again the days of 100 million pound and 80 million pound transfers at the moment are over there's only us do it and even we're not doing it unless he's the right player well I think we made what about Chelsea they 80900 million on this summer I know but even they throw bloody any yeah but it's more it's more the amortization of what they've done over like on it because they're selling plays out the back door to well to their own business I think we've done something they're not allowed to do it or something they're investigating it but it'll be wrapped under the carpet but it's like today we've sold shares in the CFG that now equates our stock level to 5.5 billion and we've so likeon sold M they've sold they've sold they have sold others as well still but there's still 150 plus net I mean that's for a team that finished e so that's what I'm saying yeah these rules these rules but they're clearly not applying to certain teams how can a team United are still massive but but how can a team like Aston Villa in the champ League after sell and not United tone United could be crap for 10 years and they'll still make more money than Villa but the it's like Newcastle last year Newcastle got Champions League Y and then they couldn't sign anyone to them then improve upon that which is sad but I think Newcastle like the Saudis came in with the understanding that they were going to come in do what city did spend big at the start kind of have their marcuse era where they get kind of yeah you know established into the league but because the Premier League seen them coming because obviously they tried it a few years before they got rejected or stavely couldn't get the back in for it they've come back in but the Premier League were ready for it they knew as soon as they passed the ownership test they were right we've got this ready and that was what PSR a all came in for because they knew straight away that if they didn't have any regulations like that Newcastle were going to go and spend big and they thought this is another one to upset the establishment and we can't have them doing what city did yeah well we'll see what comes of this um what's it AP is it or something yeah see what comes of that because newcast there there is a thing I'm not sure where I read it early but there's a thing where going to be the record or get near the record been the lowest summer ever spent by about the whole premier league and the Premier League on doing yeah they're really damaging it and you know something I mentioned about six months ago was really coming out on Twitter yesterday as well and that is the potential losses to the Premier League via lawsuits by if they um you know if the Premier League for example relegates city um they're facing massive TV rights deductions from uh you know maybe not Sky because apparently Sky were made party to the information about City and the other broadcasters haven't so they're facing possibly East US relegated C well if they relegate City they could lose apparently 10 to 20 million pounds a club um from potential law so it's it's just getting truly ridiculous and you know for all the talk by the about little city city last year officially were watched by 700 million people more than any other club in World football um outside International I think so you know now it's this it's almost like you know mut mutually assured destruction if the Premier League smash city they're actually going to suffer and every club's going to suffer for it it's um you know it's it's just got into such a mess and and honestly the whole you know the whole relegation being decided by who's lost points and no one's thinking who's losing games down the bottom they're thinking Everton leester Forest whoever else are going to get points deducted the points deduction is now bigger than whether you beat your relegation Rivals so they've got they've got to find a way to you know change it because the whole the basic Integrity of the League's gone and and I was I was joking with someone the other day that City could uh you know go and beat and all All Season be be the new invincibles but lose 25 points and not win the league yeah that's mad by the way just let you all know United have actually brought in nearly 70 million quid but mctom goes out it's nearly 90 is he's that he's in theirs today spend they'll have a net spender six so that's the things on they have sold no one's realize that theyve sold well one Baka was like 15 got 25 million for bloody Greenwood didn't there no one knew about got you got 20 nearly for basaka he got rid of veran and a fre so so do the trouble is the media haven't spoke about United's departures they only spoke about their incomings but listen and I hate United I just listen I know United are bloody Beast of a football club I hate it they are a beast and they just they just money I don't know why and I don't know how they just do they're the only team who can be e and still print money I don't know how they do it well they print they print the bank's bloody money because they're in debt by about 800 mil AR they now that make me laugh by the way if that if that's true what I he today about that RoR I'm goingon to laugh my head off because that is panic Central but anyway right we'll move on to I'm going to start with to question is this City's best ever squad on the pep oh for Christ's sake I'm going to get lynched over way on this um yes I think it is I'm going to say it is I think the numbers are good look the strikers I'm going to get hammered for this because I think at some point we probably add Aguero AG Gro and all these others up front which now that I'm saying that I'm waving the other way but I just for jeo as well jeo yeah Christ and but we've got two unbelievable Keepers correct me I I think around 8 n I'm I'm talking world class Defenders right our like fifth Choice bloody Center back is Nathan a who walks into pretty much every team in the Premier League the Midfield is the best in the league probably the best in all Europe is and we have the best striker in the on the planet up front so yeah I do I think it is it's probably close with others but in terms of on paper I'm not saying they'll win the treble and the quad but on paper to me yes I'm gonna put a I am gonna put a vote in the chat well rich or Luke what of views can answer that go on Rich yeah I mean I'm going to sit on the fence I'm I'm really you know I mean it's no it's no it's you know it's a debate on last year is it better or worse we've seen sainia a couple of games but we basically got the same Squad as last season give or take saevinho for Alvarez and you know Alvarez showed it over a bit of time svho might end up being a better player um but we don't know um you know but you know I look back at those those teams in s 18 and 19 you know to me in some ways 19 might be the one that was our best Squad but we didn't go on and win the the treble it it was kind of a I don't know how to describe it it was a much more pleasing Squad to watch in 19 you know I really loved the 18 17 1889 season just beautiful to watch C it was just stunning but we didn't quite have the hard edge of the treble winning team you know we didn't quite we weren't quite as good defensively we didn't have rodri in his pump but you know I'm not it's like choosing between your kids I'm not going to say I can't I can't decide between the centur winners B I'm backing in a carach yeah I'll go 2019 then right I'll give you some parameters but maybe I should have done this oh he's moving the go now make me look foolish saying when I mean by is look at the depth look at I didn't p p even realized look at the depth look at the players that are now back up cuz technically just to throw you a little CB good niggan a backup that's the depin of Youth thrown in yeah but you got to remember back in say 19 Gundam was a better you know he was Kevin De bruy was in his prime Gundam was in his prime we still had Silva so you know we had Bernardo and some of the others younger than they are so a lot of the players are the same play as you're comparing you know we had Jon Stones we had Edison so we're comparing the same players and you know I'd say on average a lot of those players you know some of them have got better but a lot of them aren't as good as they were because they they're 33 34 now and they were in their absolute prime back five years ago but you know it's it is like choosing between your kids it's not really you know oh no no because he's on about talking about his kids again we're not kids rich I don't have any kids so do it then yeah yeah can't look past any team that doesn't have David silver in I'm not going to lie but I do think that we haven't had this level of depth before in all fronts in all positions you know the 1819 we had W Edison as the main keeper we had claudo Bravo's backup so if you kind of look at like that things like that I think I think this is probably our strongest Squad obviously it determines how we get on in the season obviously you know probably people would say the treble season is the best Squad because of what they went on to achieve but for me I think Squad depth and kind of strength on all fronts it's probably our strongest that we've had why does everyone go quiet every time I speak because well as a quiet spell I can get Peter G is amazing 15th month a membership up on screen big up Peter hope you're well mate and then I met I met Peter um at the match on Saturday too so it's finally good to me him should have told me how to come love you know we waited we waited before the game and at half time but what you got a phone hey got a phone you know they it I used it Martin abandoned me to be Martin said he didn't want to see me on Saturday pat pat if you waited at the tier vending machine you'd have seen him you'd have seen Martin on morning that's the cityan version of like the water cooler and that pat pat saw me and went you look a bit worse for where oh yeah don't want to S said you s said you had a good night so 4: a.m. I four watchs in the door from Seven NP thank you for the $5 I know that that's Canadian Australian but thank you so much mate you are so so kind for that and it's appreciate you super sticker appreciate it thank you so much can I just say I've got a jump I just wanted to pop on for half hour and thanks for having me on and goods tell me are going start a show with just two Us in the next few weeks sorting out dates and times and everything yeah bro thank take anyway M come on is this the best Squad we've had on the P the by way get over City Luke TV because he's still awake at 2211 he deserves likes and subscrib just for staying awake fine I'm awake good know it's yeah Squad it's definitely the deepest and yeah it's a good shout to say that's probably the strongest as well um I I can't really think of any any previous years where we haven't been having out as much strength and depth defensively can anybody remind One For Me Maybe maybe this season's coming out of Co we had the strength but I think we've got more quality now biggest Squad we've had on the P i' say it's the strongest in depth but of course in in terms of quality like again I can't look past any squad without David Silva see everyone's looking at 1819 I know what to doing I I know I know why because you look at that front line and you think it was deadly as sick but and I know what you're saying savio's not been here long enough to get to a sterling sign air level and Highland we've only got Highland we had an Aguero with Jesus behind him at at this point and let's not forget that 1819 season right if we didn't beat Liverpool they would have gone centurions and Invincible yeah we did that's what I'm saying like it's just it's you know that that four 14 wins on the truck at the end of the season that was yeah I think that was Pep's talked about moment this that was incredible yeah do you think this is a great point I don't think it's the best City squad but it may be the best Squad in the league right now are we getting a bit because I'm gonna be honest with you I have thought of this are we thinking this squad's better than what it is because nobody else seems to have strengthened good enough I think so I think so because because we we hold all the cards we hold all the we you know we hold um we hold the strong hand basically because we've won four in a row now we're basically telling every other team make your move but nobody wants to make move they haven't made their move so we've improved and they haven't yeah yeah I think I think the one thing though I would say is that you know last season Arsenal had the third youngest team and Squad in the Premier League and I think Arsenal have got room to improve because they're were very young side and my worry at city is that we you know everyone's like G de bruyne you know e even rodri Walker you know even even stones and stuff now we've got Bernardo we've got a lot of players who have hit 30 and you know some of them may stay as good as they are till they're 33 34 35 but some of them will deteriorate so whereas I think we haven't got we've got a lot of players without a lot any room for improvement who are going to stay the same or get worse I think Arsenal have got a very young team who could improve so I I don't think we need to be cocky about it because we only just beat them they've signed a couple of players we've signed a player I don't think things have moved but I think they've got scope of experience and players hitting the where we've got a bit less in terms got know yeah but at some point the daddy stag gets beaten by the young buck so we've just got to make sure we don't let the Young Buck no talk about the teams generally but but there is going to be a point there is going to be a point where we're suddenly going to go crap you know de bruy Bernardo Gand their legs you I think it takes its tall like mentality wise like if you come thir if you come second for a third season in a raw yeah you cannot get past that stumbling block it doesn't matter who you have in charge who you have playing like you look at like for example you look at City in the Champions League you know historically any team that loses their first Champions League final tend to go on the win the second one you know we lost to Chelsea in the final we went on to win the second one you know you look at G done that the only example I could probably throw out there is brucia Dortmund but they've already won it prior to the two latest finals that they've been in but I just think it's going to take its tall this season if they get to the end of the season and they come second again like I've said if they come second again ateta is gone whether he's sacked whether he's left I just think he hasn't got it in him and because of all the emotional outpour that they rely on to get over the line they will struggle drastically in comparison because if you look at City they don't let a motion get the better of him they just go there do the business they take it game by game whereas a lot of the Arsenal kind of fan base the actual Squad they let the emotions ride out to him the same as Liverpool that's why Liverpool rode off into the sunset because of Jurgen clock but like leaving but with Arsenal I just think the emotional toil will get to them if they come second again and then players will look and think we can't do anything more yeah possibly so I I have to drop as well now you go I you got here's my thing where I disagree with slightly is we all said on here a lot of people said last season the best chance Aral had because we haven't had a great summer we're in a little bit of turbulence we remember we weren't playing great and we still won my whole point is do City will City ever give anyone a second chance again well I'm always going to predict City to win the league and I I still do I I just think that they you know we've got to be careful not to get to a point where not arrogant and comp no where we where we just don't have the legs where we've got the the best players in the league but they have the legs for it yeah and that worries me a bit that we didn't you know that was my only downside of signing gundan is that it actually makes the the roll off next season bigger because we've all thought Al Bernardo going to Barcelona but now it might just be that they all no Rich I've got to do this I'm over talking you I'm sorry it's rude I don't care I apologize but I've got to do this next week on the show rich and Aussie will both be back together rich and oza were very unhappy about the Gigan signing when it was announced me and Pat were waxing lyrical we were like really happy here we go Richard oie you thought we' just sign someone out the rags honestly so we're going to bring that up next week yeah and you just made that comment which is what me yeah yeah know and and you know and it's not about gin at all it's to me it was about it's a very what was the word and all come back come back to roost no that that was not me I certainly didn't say that who's talking [ __ ] I I said that I thought it meant that pep might be going that's what I said I've got to ask Mr darell who was talking anyway cheerio we give our opinion mate you don't have to agree yeah they do have Timber I totally agree I like that you're talking [ __ ] who's darell is that a city fan or is that somebody who's thought Ral but he might be he might be a rival he's upset don't know he needs to spell your right to be fair I it might not be me I don't know I'm just asking a question should being the teacher anyway listen I I I totally understand why people do not think it is do I think personally and I've asked this question because I've seen the question pop around a few streams seeing it on lb because it was to lb and you Pat the other day was being talked about and other people have mentioned it as well think you men others I've mentioned in streams of how good it this and they always come back to is it a bit too soon really because I always remember last season we won our first six on the bounce and if I believe right was the best start under peps you know when it came y but I also I also did say at the back end of one of those shows too I did say just be careful because we usually have that little October slip October November sort of slip when we're just trying to kick it up another kick it up question I think the question would be is this the most depth we've had abely I would say we've L the most balanced we've looked in three years yeah and that's with even without rogy playing we've got balance now because if you think about it you've got two you look at your left backs a gabardo your right backs Walker Rico you can throw a CI in if you wanted to your center backs you've got Jon Stones Aja Diaz gardio we should talk about the true versatility not just saying like Nathan a and gardio are the left backs because then you can say gavardo is a center back Center back I mean it's just it's hyper versatility it's not just depth in one position it's just yeah like hyper versatility it's just it's just 10 utility man you've got Rod you've got kich you've got Nunes you've got oila you got MTI You' got Bernardo you got folden you got kdb um gundan gundan Oscar Bob Oscar Bob on the right R Savio on the right doaku greish on the left Highland up top that's what I mean I think I think balanced it is f but then the other side of the coin is last season we couldn't win a game without Rod we won three on the bounce without him now and look comfortable without that's a concerning that's a concerning thought for the Premier League so that's what it makes you think we couldn't win a game without rodr we've now done three comfortable wins without him yeah but I think it's more a compliment to kovic because the form that he had at the end of last season is now just trans fixed over to this season and he's come in and looked ever more comfortably the same with aangi aangi at the Euros the form that he had in the Euros is continued into the Premier League which we're very fortunate to have yeah uh ret don't lose our Reds literally lost two games that's maturity you did get a little emotional retro in certain games I think what Luken was you over you have got this thing of where some people think you over celebrate sometimes well they thought they they thought they'd won the league in January the same with Liverpool they thought they were going to you know be top of the league by January and you know what the biggest problem was Luka Martin said this last season was they were too focused on winning battles not trying to win the war they were so worried about trying to trying to get maximum points off Liverpool maximum points off us and then let let Slide the fact that they dropped six points against Villa dropped like four points against Fulham you know and dropped a bunch of points off West Ham as well too these are fixtures that they should be they should be picking out maximum points from absolutely but then it's also like a case of oh my fa TR train of thoughts gone here but then like coming to the EAD like I will always say if you want to be the best team in the league like City don't go and park the bus City will go at every team whether it's at anfield whether it's at Old Trafford whether it's at the Emirates we've been there and done it but if you want to be the best team in the league you have to go and make a statement of we're gonna we're going to come here and we're going to beat you because if you then admit defeat in your mentality you're thinking we we do you know what I mean like when you sit there and do that you sit there and think mentally we've just r that out there we can probably do this for the rest of the season Y and and exactly what you were saying about the home form too I think our home form at the moment or these last say two seasons has been as ruthless and as as um as daunting a task for for opposing teams as say Peak klopp Liverpool and anfield like you you saw it like even on a bad day where they may have ConEd one ConEd an early goal you knew guaranteed they were going to score at least two that you've got to give credit to him for that but it's yeah they were AB they were absolutely they were Unstoppable Force at home and and I think I think we're on on a level if not maybe better than that but it's just it's just not talked about it's not hyped about well we haven't lost a home game since October 22 yeah brenford before World Cup was it yeah yeah near me any other team who's probably done that in don't think Fergie's gone that long at Old Trafford when he was in charge don't think he's gone nearly two years I think so Mourinho at Chelsea Maybe I think is probably the only one that comes close see see you ruin that now what I'm going to do is I'm going to bring up the I'm going to end the where is it the uh I'm going to keep it going it's 66 200 if you want to vote vote now I'm going to keep it going for two more minutes what I'm going to do is then because I I don't think I suppose that's going to be a subjective part of you whether you think this is the strongest most balanced etc etc I think that's going to be a subjective I think it's too early to say is this the best squad on the pack on paper yes anything else I can say on paper yeah but I also think I don't think the rivals have done enough if Arsen got out and bought a striker and a backup Sterling I know people told me um they did you know they've got Jesus as back up Jesus is an absolute injury waiting to happen at the minute he's not going to he won't be able to back up for's an absolute offside Merchant as well so I do think I I also think there's other Wells as well um I will give it update apparently rodri's come back better than ever body weight is unbelievable and he's fully fit for Saturday however may not be used and could be spent could be sent to Spain early for rest um I don't I don't think he can play for Spain so he's got one game banned so I think he can play the second game I think he can go meet up with him he can go meet up with him do a better rest there has been U Edison's been working this week and apparently the goalkeeping coach is very happy with Edison's reactions been working on his hands this week sounds Dodger uh been working on his hands movement and he's saving and apparently the initial the initial reactions are very good uh Phil folden is expected not to be back by West Ham at the moment we'll see as we're going before you ask what is actually wrong with him then is it just sickness no idea cuz I was joking when I said he had the [ __ ] from that Indian but like now he's actually maybe the illness has just ruined his um ruined his routine you know he's got to get back back into fitness again cuz I've seen someone talk about Co on Twitter and I was like shut up like we pass that it's done I don't hear the moment huh humor he's got it who's got it LO got it gone back around again didn't strain a bit this time well anyway we're not talking about that I'm not getting demonetized um right let's move on to the next one West Ham yes third game of the season probably our toughest one Luke um I'm not I'm going to I'm going to I'm going to start with you and then I'll let you go because I know this is way past your bedtime and you're you sure I don't I don't mind St no it's fine M don't worry I can uh me and P finish up but honestly L tell us your thoughts about West Ham and I can even finish on my own it's fine I don't mind I mean do you finish on your own often that's I'm just Martin's full of innuendos and he doesn't mean them we need to keep track of these innuendos that he does yeah apparently I've got 15 accounts I haven't I really haven't actually got 15 accounts come in my stream one time right and like he's never in this one so this is what makes it I haven't seen your I haven't seen your show get bombarded with a few um with a few uh Martin burners I say this straight now on me on me dad ain't me no no I know it's not you I know it's not you it but it's just very funny for Allan somebody did an allen account didn't they part sir Allen's Alle what makes it more funny Pat is the whoever it is please reveal yourself because I will give you a channel membership right on my channel give me a t-shirt yes yes maybe maybe but don't leak don't leak them out no one knows about them yet Martin oh sorry am I giving you inside stuff there yeah well I need you to have a chat with this guy down below regarding this guy's gonna sort the exact same thing out for us right yeah I'll drop you a message Pat if that's all right with you at some point yeah I did tell you merch was coming on the channel Pat is gonna start it Luke is the person who knows the person who can start it yeah okay yeah yeah way we're way off topic to be hon to be honest the merch merch that I made was in the bin by the time I left by the time I got to Manchester so yeah well um it was a good design but the fabric was just warm weather in New York horrible this this in the nor person right if I ever find out who it is I may yeah did he no he said is it my name is in the no M and he didn't say it was oh sorry yeah just making false rumors up now mind um but right this guy has gone to the extent I don't know where he's got the picture from or he's done it himself right but it's like one that's caught Martin off guard you know like mid like speech where he's like like like G and it came uping or something yeah yeah like it just came up on like the comments and I was just in hysterics all stream like for a good 20 minutes but you you do pull some funny heads [Laughter] sometimes Martin the the mayor of APPA falsworth West Ham away West Ham away it's a tough one it definitely is our toughest game and it can catch us off guard can I can I just say something about this fixture first off is we've been playing West Ham away quite early in the season for the last couple years haven't we always we open the treble season there we open the treble season there I'm pretty sure within the first 10 matches of last season we played away there too we played we played well in in both fixtures I think it's a case of similar to like playing Chelsea away at the start of this season it's another one of those ones where I'm glad that we're getting it out of the way early in the season because again London Stadium in say March April May don't want to go there trying to push for a European spot as well it's the signings they've made are all top caliber players the likes of PA Krug Sommerville Guido Rodriguez if that team clicks yeah not many are beating them I I had F KR as my um f KR as my uh like underrated signing of the Season yeah he is we've seen what he can do at the Euros but by the way just before I lose the analytics on it is this Pep Squad 75 people voted 76 people voted s 67% have said yes 32% no so there you go% g tell me what he says no but yeah why is it in 99% that's that's a good question 33.3 so it'll round it down to the nearest one decimals War it anyway I I think it's it's a tough one this could go either way but I am confident that you know the start we've had will just consistently get through this I think for me it's going to be one of those where doku caused him a nightmare last season but they have upgraded their defensive W Baka as well um who you know has kept One V one attackers at Bear quite consistently the amount of times he shut down Sterling over the years was just yeah frustrating yeah um but it is one of those where I think because we're play him this early on it's again like Pat said with Chelsea get it out the way you know get a good performance in before the international break there's no form that's going to kind of ride on this regardless of the result I just think it's always a case of like Pat said if we go away there end of the towards the end of the season we've we've seen it before where we've drew against him you know to kind of I think it was we shouldn't have draw either because we were terrible in that first half no they battered us that game but bow and Antonio home game for Mark Noble so they were up for it yeah but I just think because of the amount of signings they've made and they're trying to integrate this squad now is probably the best time to play them because they don't know their best 11 yet so they're probably still trying to experiment and find their best 11 whereas we know Bo we've got kovic Bernardo de bruy you know it's probably going to be the same lineup as last week just go there and get the do job done that's it that's all we need to focus on don't care if we play well don't care because we're going into International break so the form is irrelevant we just go in get a job done get the result and boom any stand there give us a shout that's why I said it because I knew you put your hand up what what regarding the southand darell I think Mr darell is in there watch West Ham last night not overly impressed they did play Bournemouth in the carabal yeah Jared Bowen saved him the have obviously played two games in the league the won one lost one they lost their opening game at the olymp the Olympic stadi Villa at home was Villa at home yeah where a certain John Duran came on and bagged the winner Believe It or Not uh and then got linked with s for some weird reason yeah um and then he went to Crystal Palace and got that's what worries me because they got result at home keeping uh Crystal Palace you know keeping a clean sheet for one there is tough and two that's not a bad Palace Squad either I think Palace are a bit of a nightmare I think Palace are stuck at the minute because they don't know where to go you know what palace need right now is the window to shut yeah yeah well they look completely different with I think I think they've they've took that loss of Alisa very hard yeah see two away um Pal's nearly had 60% of possession 82 there you go yeah I mean West Ham this summer about Max kilman which I think is a really good signing for them Somerville obviously from Le was right championship player of the year but what Nick folr obviously from Dortmund which I think is quite a shrewd bit of business is the Rodriguez one for me I know he's 31 and I know people going but I think sometimes you need I mean I'm going to be honest with you that could have been the guy we we might have needed somewhere like that at 31 or a griezman at 34 whatever um ju Baka from the rags Rodriguez can the no did K come in can no I know kante was going in they got linked with K and I don't think they got the deal over the line no he's still in Saudi I think so he didn't get the deal over the line I just obviously I've not been following it um now obviously they have sold as well Ben Rama's gone um he gone to Leon Ben Johnson's left he's g a three aon's gone he never played anyway so injury PR W he towards the end Devan Mora has left to obviously join Manchester City Football Club you ask lb is joining our first team um it's a joke anyone goes because lb got very excited over him I've never seen lb get so excited I think it was because of how how quiet the transfer news like we signed Evena I'm like what you doing uh that b and go was offside I I mean I'd make changes I know pep for the first time it was 80 odd games made no changes sat there 86 I think it was I think he's going to make changes this week see we discussed this on my stream me and Tolen tol went with the same uh 11 three games on the bounds no no but I think we're playing every seven days Martin at the top of the season I just think the only changes you would potentially see is gundan comes in and Bernardo goes to the right just to get control of theame yeah which is which is a sensible option to Gund would put basically no greish no no greish to start get dku because you seen what dku did against West Ham last season that was probably his best game in a city shirt last season other than Bournemouth at home when we come back from International break that's when we kick off playing every three days BR from the league wat from the cup Arsenal Walker yeah no Rico deserves his spot I know you're big into you know getting everyone match Fitness and stuff like this throw a cold while K Walker into Arsenal is a damn scary thought I don't proves himself when he gets the chance I think I think you can't look past Rico at the minute but there's going to be a point L you're gonna have to take Rico out he's not playing 60 games wait didn't Rico start both matches against Arsenal last season yeah but one started at the Emirates and's thing longer Le Walker out the worst he going to be to get him back but I think he was too complacent last season I think because he knew he was Captain he knew he was one of the first names on the team Sheet this has probably been a reality check him man he doesn't need a reality check at his age his last year yeah I know but you know he's probably contemplating like International retirement now we've not getting in that Squad you know like kieren trippier has done today you know that's probably a real possibility so you know he's got to kind of sit there and think now he's got to work his way back in probably but it's a good it's a good argument to have you say work his way back in he's not the opportunity till and no one's given him the opportunity to so this is my point if he comes in is there a reason that is is is there a reason for that then Pep's doing some Rico he's never done with any of the kids well Rico has played the most minutes as a teenager on the pep but we're still getting still 19 if you're if you're good enough you're old enough no I agree with that but I know what's going to happen the first bad game he has he's gonna get unsown and quied and you know he will well [ __ ] whoever does that because they all Pricks no man you've seen I've seen in the stadium because with all fairness you won't like this but R Co part of the reason they scored on Saturday you play like that against oh no no if you go and listen if you go and list listen back to my stream I did say Rico can do Bay he's got to follow the balling but but that's hi switch you tell him throwing him into Arsenal defend like that against Arsenal you're game over yeah you do make a point but give that chance to learn that but no one's giv Walker a chance I think he had plenty of chances last season the trouble is though trouble is loot you can't learn from that cu defeat comain you out The League yeah this is the problem the problems with the Premier League we're dealing with such fine margins that one loss can kill you and it's our own fault because we've set them standards to where it's one loss two losses and you're out arsenal when Arsenal lost one game from January till the end of May they went on their best run ever in the Premier League and still didn't win it so even being there on perfect wasn't good enough for Arsenal I don't know it's this water thing is such a conundrum I won't Li it's conundrum and for me the longer he's out I think the worst the longer you'll take to get him back yeah golden we know why Rod we know why walk is different because he's not even have preseason yeah I don't know that's I don't know it's probably it's no and I I I see where you're coming from and it's probably the only kind of pange where I could understand it that's the one I'm scared of cudas he was there man of the match last season at the aad yeah he's he's dangerous he's Lively it's very they they have they have they have a good squad all over the pitch now so they've got cudas apparently next summer i' read some like 60 million oh that was about 85 is it lower wow okay yeah I think it's 60 or something but I'd have a better cudos because Liverpool looked at him didn't there whilst he was at ax and then West Ham swooped in so I think they've put the release CLA looking at K four years fin got it he signed know he something that guy concerns that guy concerns me because when I looked on his um player bio I think he's had 47 instances of different injuries over his time at Juventus yeah oh he's been made at since since since it won the Euro his injury history is just ridiculous it's similar similar thing goes with people are ignoring just um the injury history that Cal fiori had before he signed um yeah so you go back and look at his injury history when is it bolog and that was absolutely terrible huge times off and it was like repeat hamstring injuries as well too like that that just spells a lot of concern to me if I'm looking at people's Els and theyve all rotated there's only one person who won't rotate and that's Reco for Walker no one's putting Walker anywhere need it and I'm telling you you're gonna you're asking for problems you're asking for problems down the road but if you if if if we if that's the case right the only play you really enough is Kyle Walker and let's be honest we all know why this is my thing Luke I know the reason why Rico Lewis being there was just a bonus but it could have been jacked from down the road there and no one would want Walker in I think people have just had enough for walk no if Walker would have had a good season last season I would have been as big as plaud but there is new season right okay a chance that's fair no and I will give Walker a chance I'm just saying you cut him off at the knees right no if you don't cut me off at the knees I'll explain myself so keep going um right if Walker had come in you know these last couple of games and played well then I'd be like all right it's good we've got healthy competition but when Reco has stepped up now and performed very very well consistently then it's hard to look past him but it's the fact mentality wise all over the place Walker last season you know performances on The pitches comments in the media you know we all discuss this at length throughout the euros and I get it and you know it's a fresh start it's a new season fair enough but there is a reason why probably pep has not brought him on whether that's because of Fitness you know he's not up to scratch yet but Rico has performed to Warrant these starting positions I can see your kind of but you're looking too far into it to look at last season and stuff like that you're looking at you know the issues we had potentially last season there could be work amazing against like say he was and that's opinions and that's fair that's that's fair enough that's your opinion and you know I've got mine I thought he was very good I thought is if that was Walker made that get switched is a different outline different outcome yeah and I agree with that I like I don't like the double standards yeah it's got to be one rule for all you know you can't have one got away with that last week because he's Rico and he's out the academy and I love Rico I think he's amazing and I think he should be given the opportunity because you learn by making mistakes I think Rico is going to be our number one right back what I'm saying is at the moment anytime I ask someone nobody's ever taking Rico out you're not going to play Rico with 60 games I think no I think there will be times we have to take recoil of course of course but not now not we playing every but that's what I'm yeah but that's what I agree that's what I'm trying to get at P I think it's also a case of the kid is on form make the most of it whilst this kid is on form because of his age he will have a dip in form that's natural you know the experience isn't there in the likes of Walker or Ki stores and things like that Rico right now because because out of the two of them based on form he's best he's in a Purple Patch so make the most of that Purple Patch until you get you know you get that dip in form then you've got an experienced player who can come in and knows the rule yeah don't detriment Rico Lewis's development just because you want somebody like CL Walker in because he can run a bit quicker that's just my opinion no I'm listen I'm not saying I think Rico is going to be our number one right back 1,00% what I'm saying is is this thing of playing if you play him you play him and play him and play him while he's amazing then that's fine that has to go with everyone else then yeah and and I agree to that sentiment and it probably won't because of tactical reasons or you know saying Cal Walker's played no pre-season and he's played no games you've got that's that's that's even more con if you then just decide to throw him in you got to put him in at some point though and I don't put him in against Arsenal Watford at on give him a full 0 there but then so he's gone from Club Captain to just Watford at home sold him might as well have sold him he's on 230 Grand a week and you're giving him what for at home no AR we sort of missing something here with this with with basically Walker English JN stones English for f in English they're not getting game time either I I wonder if this is some sort of a rollover from the Euros perhaps taking his time bringing them back plus also too as we said there are players in those positions that all three of those Englishmen play right now that are just in better form mean the only devil we' got a system that's working right now and playing every seven days means it's unfortunately some players are going to miss out there's going to be a bit of a gap between matches and right now there's no point in doing rotation because if you're running the risk of taking a player out who's in formed they're going to turn and say well I'm not playing football for two weeks and they're going to start getting pissed off well they might have a different form so right now the formula is working and it's a case of if it a broke don't fix it so we use that now until the international break and then when they come back that's when we're going to see the the real rotation starting to happen so that's um that's that's what's important for me right now I'm I'm just I just really I just really want football every three days to kick off again because every three days because one we got the best manager in the world for for playing every three days and we got the best squad for rotating every three days as well too so right now it's it's only I think I think it's difficult to say who should be in who should be out right now because it's just finding the best formula unfortunately un fortunately for us we seem to have found the right formula because we've W we've won comfortably two MA first two matches in the league and it's it's working fine right now so for me I would H I would happily just do rinse and repeat for West Ham and then when we get back in two weeks time then that's when we're gonna start seeing some change yeah and I think to play Devil's Advocate obviously you mentioned that the England Lads needed like an extended rest Bon has played Chelsea a away for a half he wouldn't have played that with Savio didn't go off that little knee injury that was potentially but then also Jon Stones has played you know a brief moment started similar similar to Carl Walker as well they've got minutes on the pitch and this is what some understood what I'm said I didn't want I didn't want people out after Chelsea because of farm I'm not bothered about Farm two three games you know in I don't think pep is well he might be now there was a reason Andrew pep is the first time in 0 your games he changed the 11 because he never does it he never keeps the 11 he changes everyone my idea was how do you get my question is that you just said it folding and Stones folding has gotten the pitch against Chelsea I think fing starts on Saturday against hips which had did not been H ston got the pitch my this is my point AK and Walker just seem to have just got zump at the minute he's as well they're not even bench and I I think AK Still will have a RW somewhere but whether or not it's more at Cent half than it is full back oh my go sorry I think that's what it is I think it's more of is because I agree what Rico is gonna be on number one right back I just think you get one injury anywhere and you need Walker because I tell I watched his body language against dip switch warming up he LS sad who i s too I S too yeah he was still I said I said in the last show I said he was still in his Theros skins walking up warming up like yeah like just asked me said you go warm up but you're not going to play like and a boiling hot day yeah and it was boiling hot for you mate yeah boing but then but then that should be motivation for him to say right once I get that chance you're going to see Notting the chance that's what we're saying and no one's giv the key word there Martin was when but but when when you can't hit October and go and you come of course not but if he is if he is to play against West Ham I've got no objections to it at all don't get me wrong I'm just saying that based on a player's form like Rico who's been consistent since the start of the season and in preseason I think it would be very of course I'm saying it's unfair but at the end of the day it's a results business if pep thinks that Kyle Walker is going to be the better one to get a result then fair enough who are we to judge but what I'm trying to say is if you drop one of your best players then that sends a statement throughout the whole team that you think de St his great point I know you got to go in a minute I do appreciate that look pep start WG AR W to STI the pitch up but that's then not on Walker devious that's on pep for leaving him out and just bringing him into Arsenal yeah that's on pep then devious not on Walker this is what I'm saying you can't just drop Walker and then bring him to Arsenal with no preas no warm up no nothing they're not robots they are humans mind you though we did do that when he played against Real Madrid last season and he has to leave yeah and Pepa to take him out for a meal and beg him not to leave but it is what it is we'll we'll see on Saturday I you know I wouldn't be surprised if Walker starts and then you know say if we're two or three n up or two n up Rico comes on for the control element of the game this the I don't like this is Su I I think Walkers I think it's getting too personal I know top of the league that's this is my thing and this is where people aren't being honest people aren't dropping Walker on F they Dro Walker for other reasons and you know that Luke this is my old point it's not for anyone Dr well I I couldn't give a [ __ ] what he gets up to off the pitch but you know that about there Ro on Walker absolutely there is deeper hit with Walker than football in reasons it's the way you sp in the media it's the way he's been dipping his Wick in other people don't get me wrong i' you know can appreciate people aren't fans of that and he opinion I think it's also I think I think it's also op opinion amongst the fan base too that they feel like Walker probably the least favored captain that we've had in recent years yeah that that that's a massive autoally going to be a bit of that um yeah bit of negativity towards that yeah I just think it's because they look at Walker as not captain in material that they feel like they have to then send abuse to compensate for that absolutely because when you think when you think of they think a walker as Captain I'll probably agree with them too they think more along the lines of yeah part part of part of that Captain's Team and you think about what he said to the the players at half time in Istanbul saying like you know I'm putting this in your hands sort of thing like you know that's that's what we sort have known for but then you know once he finally took the captain's AR Perman last season it just it just didn't quite didn't quite gel with everybody I think it was just there was way more everybody had at least two or three choices ahead of him and think I just think it left an awful taste in everyone's out here I think him taking the captaincy as well with what was going on off the pitch what his comments were during his interviews it hasn't added up well don't get me wrong if you'd have had them comments and you know the issue off the pitch as a non- captain I think people would have avoided it I think people wouldn't have cared but because he's Captain people have looked at it like he's got to set an example and the example that he's setting looks [ __ ] let's be honest you know the comments that he's making about teammates saying that you need to be here on Merit and you know then backtracking it and saying that you do you know what I mean like it's just yeah because he's meant to be the one to set the example and he's had bad performances on the pitch as a captain people have then scapegoated him massively do you so if you had the choice like who would you who would you give the captain arm to for the season I wouldn't give it a rri because I think he's got too much of a burden anyway exactly this is my one yeah um gundan I wouldn't give it to just because he's been away for a season there's new players in the squad that he will not in the Captain's Team the captain's Squad the squad is but I think there's only one option and that is Ruben Diaz here's the only thing I'm concerned about Diaz is um if he not necessarily even if he has one game one bad game do you know what I feel most of the fan base will do even whether even if he has a good game or even if he excels his game be being a captain you'll always be compared to Vincent company unfairly unfairly yeah po0 minutes so need Sor DB thank you gifted five M way memberships earlier oh I do apologize um but thank you you are amazing what a man B more happy than you can ever more than you believe more than you believe I'm [Applause] happy but more than you believe do you know you know yeah I'm going to finish on the spend stuff I was Ling that till the end because there is going to be a show on that next week the the my thing is listen I have no problem with anyone not liking a player for whatever reason it's football we all have different opinions but I've said it a thousand times certain other players have made erors in this football club and got away with it others didn't that's the sad thing I am just a person about I've said it a thousand times I treat everyone equally it's why I don't like the said it on last night's show I'm finding Nunes people have given Calvin Phillips more leeway than they give bloody Nunes see Nunes is big as Advocate to be honest and which is Baff for me Calin Phillips got more support than mat Nunes has got it's because people thought he was a that's what it is I don't get it I'm just and listen everyone listen I mean he a n of work not the see I have I have Andrew it has it has with me yeah and Luke said he saw it it has in in some parts mate it has some have said he's a dirty blah blah blah get him out I had a I'm in a private group with someone and I got that's not the way I live my life and I don't this is why I said the other day Andrew I don't see footballers as a role model I've never ever seen footballers as role models and I know you P I know you Andrew and not I'm go in because of him because you like Rico and I like Rico and I'll say it for the thousandth time Rico Lewis will be Manchester City's number one right back if we don't buy anyone what I'm saying is we've got to be careful how we don't alienate Walker completely at the same time we've got to try and do both here that's all I'm saying anyway Luke I know you've got a jump mate thank you for joining us get over El TV did a great show with tone earlier did show me yesterday the guys now got all sorts going on absolutely amazing now membership got over a thousand have you got there did you go there to a thousand yeah no I'm on 820 at the minute come on 108 yeah there's 150 was 200 in area 250 in a earlier get over there go and show City Lop TV a lot love let's get him to that onek and thank you for having me on Martin I was a man in my word and I tried to stay up as long as I could because I'm normally in bed three hours before this so but thank you very much for having me on and it's always a pleasure make take care everyone have a good weekend bye bye see you later Kel to make great point he's Rec there's different keys with different locks that's all I'm saying is um I don't know listen it's up to pep pep gets paid the bloody Millions Diaz Captain for me I don't think I don't think kdb just doesn't seem to want the captain sir kdb doesn't seem to want it um anyway right what we're going to do is um some look um I don't believe in getting any blue listen Andrew you know me mate you know I am show Luke a lot of love are you still there Pat yeah I'm here mate all right yeah my camera was just doing the Punky disco stuff it probably is still now if I turn it on oh listen one thing I will say I it's okay for now I do think I do think this will be Walkers last ever season I do think you'll be gone yeah I wouldn't be surprised I do think you'll be gone and I think this is a good time to decide do you buy a right back or do you move L because my thing is you don't the trouble is you're all talking about Rico leis as a right back who says City don't like him as a midfielder you're all presuming he's going to right back so that's what I'm saying as well he's the Whitefield Philip l because I know City would like him as a midfielder as well so you never know you never never know that was it from sad news Happ news Oasis are back there are BM thank you so much rest in peace Ben thank you for the great old 708 it's a great thing next week next Monday night we're going to do a Spen tribute show it's going to be a main road Day special now I know swen wasn't the manager at Main Road I know that but the main road days is a show for main Ro but it's also a show for the history of Manchester City Football Club so what we're going to do is we're going to be next Monday we're going to do a b show all on Spen from his signings how became the manager to the ending to everything because I love Spen he was such a gentleman he was amazing um but again um this is why I'm looking as a footballer and a football manager I don't care what he did on the outside I've seen some people this week talk about his outside life I don't care too many people in today's society get too involved in what goes on in a person's outside world if he wants to go and have three wives and 16 kids you know I'm not I don't people are getting too into it I'm seeing some lovely things about San I've seen some awful things about span it's uh I don't know it's weird at the minute very weird but no thank you BM that is GNA happen next Monday night Spang go and Erikson tribute show um I know kdb doesn't kdb's he's not a big c he's not a big thing for all right I agree was say give kabore a chance we'll see we'll see all right Pat anything you want to add for we wrap up mate and I do big up Pat i' GNA say this got off a plane 25 an hour ago blame from Manchester back to Sydney has come straight on a showell I was expecting you to say something like and this this the best analysis he's given since he came on the show full time no M no M absolutely big no big up yourself for you to literally come on a show when I told you not to do because he did and Pat will confirm I told him and oie stay away don't send the bloody link then okay 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