know this isn't his first rodeo right I mean like he played all last year I know he missed a couple games due to injury but you know for the last two years he's he sat behind one of the greatest centers of all time right and Jason and learned from him like that I mean shoot you ask me I could would uh would you like to sit um you know sit right there with uh you know Andy Reid would you like to sit right there with uh um you know Bill belich would you like to sit right there with Bill Walsh and learn for a couple yeah that'd be great you know so obviously um he was able to do that um but also he played you know he played meaningful snaps and we you know so it's not it's not a projection you know he played meaningful snaps and he played you know some good football and so it's not a projection of what he can do now is it a different position of course it is um but we're excited about him uh he works his butt off he's you know he work he works hard and um we're really excited about his progression uh the things that he's doing it practice