OF >> YEAH, I THINK THAT WE MAY SEE THIS GET MOVED TO ADA COUNTY, WHICH IS BOISE. WE DON'T KNOW FOR SURE IT'S GOING TO BE UP TO THE SUPREME COURT ACTUALLY OF IDAHO. THEY'RE THE ONES WHO WILL HAVE TO MAKE THE DECISION. BUT THE JUDGE PRETTY MUCH LAID OUT THAT IN MOSCOW, IDAHO, LATE HAWK COUNTY, WHERE WE'VE SEEN ALL THE COURTROOM VIDEO FROM. IT'S VERY, VERY SMALL. I'VE BEEN THERE COUNTLESS TIMES. IT'S A SMALL COURTROOM. YOU SEE THE SAME COUPLE OF DEPUTIES EVERY SINGLE TIME. THERE ARE VERY, VERY FEW DEPUTIES THAT WORKED FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE IS ONLY A COUPLE OF COUNTY CLERKS AND IT'S JUST NOT MANAGEABLE. THE JUDGE SAYS FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO HANDLE A TRIAL OF THIS MAGNITUDE. TO COUNTY, BOISE, IDAHO, WE HAD THE LORI VALLOW TRIAL THERE. YOU'RE REMEMBER, I'VE SPENT WEEKS AND WEEKS AND WEEKS THERE. IT'S A BIG JUDICIAL COMPLEX. IT'S A BIG COURTROOM. THERE'S PLENTY OF SPACE. THEY'VE GOT THE SECRET UNDERGROUND ENTRANCE FOR THE JURORS. SO I IT SEEMS LIKE THAT COULD COULD MAKE A LOT OF SENSE BASED ON THE RULING. >> WELL, THAT ALL SOUNDS GREAT, EXCEPT IF YOU'RE THE FAMILY MEMBERS OF THE VICTIMS WHO, YOU KNOW, WANT TO BE THERE, UNDERSTANDABLY THEY WANT TO STARE. >> FRANCO BURGER IN THE ALL THROUGH THESE PROCEEDINGS. >> BUT IT'S LIKE 6 HOURS AWAY. YOU KNOW, IF YOU GO TO COUNTY DOWN IN BOISE, IT'S LIKE 6 HOURS AWAAY FROM I THINK COULD BE COUNTY, WHICH IS WHAT NORTH DID THEY WERE THEY CAN SELL TO IT. DID THAT WEIGH IN AT ALL TO THIS? LOOK AT THAT MAP. LOOK AT THERE'S LATE. ALL RIGHT. UP THERE AND EVEN HIGHER. >> A LONG DRIVE. >> YEAH, IT'S FAR. AND THAT'S ONE OF THE BIG ISSUES HERE. NEW FEEL FOR THE FAMILY SAYS THE THREE-MONTH TRIAL. THEY THINK ASHLEY, 3 MONTHS. IMAGINE HAVING TO UPROOT YOUR LIFE. YOU HAVE TO RENT A HOUSE IF THE BE THERE FOR 3 MONTHS. IF THEY WANT TO BE THERE FOR THE WHOLE THING. SO IT'S A LONG DRIVE. THEY'RE VERY DISAPPOINTED THAT THE TRIAL IS BEING MOVED THERE'S GOING TO BE A NEW JUDGE, WHICH I THOUGHT TO BE A BOB, SHALL I WASN'T EXPECTING IT. THE JUDGE ALSO SAID HE WANTS OFF THE CASE. THAT IS SOMETHING THAT THE FAMILY IS ACTUALLY HAPPY ABOUT. THEY WERE NOT PLEASED WITH THE JUDGE. THEY ALSO SAID TODAY IN A NEW STATEMENT, KAYLEE GONZALEZ'S FAMILY THAT HAVEN'T EXACTLY BEEN PLEASED WITH THE PROSECUTION. THEY FEEL LIKE THEY HAVE BEEN FIGHTING HARD ENOUGH. THEY DIDN'T FIGHT THIS CHANGE OF VENUE ARGUMENT. HARD ENOUGH. DIDN'T FIGHT HARD ENOUGH TO KEEP IT IN MOSCOW, IDAHO. I SPOKE TO BECAUSE ALL PARENTS AND ALSO TO THEIR TOP ATTORNEY JUST A SHORT TIME AGO. I WANT TO I WANT TO PLAY YOU A LITTLE BIT OF THAT ACTUALLY. >> YOU SAID, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT TO BE MORE AGGRESSIVE. IF YOU GUYS HAVE TO BE MORE AGGRESSIVE IN A PUSH BACK AT US. AND HERE WE ARE 2, 2, MONTHS AWAY FROM FORR 2 YES AND THE RESETTING. SO WE WERE RIGHT. WE TOLD THEM THEY NEEDED TO BE A LITTLE MORE AGGRESSIVE, MAYBE A LOT MORE AGGRESSIVE SOMEWHERE IN THE MIDDLE. YOU KNOW, HERE WE ARE TODAY AND WHERE WERE WE WERE RIGHT. AND BUT WE CAN COURSE CORRECT. WE CAN GET THIS FIXED. WE CAN GET THE RIGHT GUY IN THE GHT CHAIR AND WE CAN GO FROM THAT. THIS ISN'T THE AND THIS ISN'T THE END OF THE ROAD. THIS IS NOT OVER. >> THIS IS A NOTE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I TAKE IT TO HEART LIKE THAT'S A WIN FOR THEM. YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW. AND AND IT'S LIKE OKAY FOR TACTIC FOR TAX CUT. >> YOU KNOW, OTHER PEOPLE IN THE FAMILY HAVE MAKE HOW THEN THEN THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY SEEM ON THE A LOOK AT THE BIGGER PICTURE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T NOT TAKE YOUR TACTICS NOT ATTACK. >> SO YOU CAN IMAGINE ASHLEY ON HOW DIFFICULT IT'S BEEN FOR THEM AND FOR THE OTHER VICTIMS, FAMILY MEMBERS TO THINK THAT NOW THEY'RE GOING TO BE A WHOLE NEW VENUE. THEY DON'T KNOW WHERE IT IS. A END ON TOP OF THAT, THERE'S GOING TO BE A WHOLE NEW JUDGE. >> OK, JEN, I HAVE THIS OTHER QUESTION BECAUSE LAST WEEK WE WERE TALKING ABOUT 13 FILINGS THAT HIS DEFENSE ATTORNEYS PUT FORTH TO JUDGE JOHN JUDGE, YOU KNOW WHO STILL PRESUMABLY HANGING ON UNTIL THE NEW JUDGES IS APPOINTED. BUT WHAT DO WE KNOW ABOUT THOSE FILINGS? THEY WANT THE DEATH PENALTY OFF THE TABLE AND THEY SUGGESTED ALL SORTS OF THINGS FROM IT'S UNCONSTITUTIONAL TO, YOU KNOW, THE CRUEL AND UNUSUAL PUNISHMENT, IT CETERA. WHERE DOES THAT STAND? >> WELL, WE DON'T REALLY KNOW IF JUDGE JUDGE IS HANGING ON. I'VE BEEN TRYING TO FIGURE IT OUT. I WAS TALKING TOSHANON GRAY. THE ON GONZALES IS THAT ATTORNEY. YOU KNOW, THERE'S A THOUGHT HERE. COULD HAPPEN THAT HE'S JUST DONE ALREADY, THAT THE SUPREME COURT'S GOING TO DECIDE. HOPEFULLY QUICKLY WHO THE NET NEW JUDGE WILL BE, WHERE THIS WILL MOVE TO END. THE NEW JUDGE WILL TAKE OVER RIGHT AWAY. AND YOU MENTIONED THIS ARGUMENT RIGHT NOW OVER THE DEATH PENALTY. THE DEFENSE IS TRYING TO GET IT THROWN OUT. PROSECUTION HAS TO WEIGH IN. THERE IS A HEARING SET FOR NOVEMBER ON THAT. ASHLEY, WHICH IS A BIG HEARING. WE ALL ASSUMED THAT IT WAS GOING TO BE IN MOSCOW, IDAHO, LIKELY NOT GOING TO BE IN MOSCOW ANYMORE. NOT GOING TO BE IN FRONT OF JUDGE JUDGE. SO IS THIS GOING TO LAY THINGS? WILL THAT HEARING SO HAPPENED IN NOVEMBER WHERE HEARING BE AND YOU CAN UNDERSTAND THE FRUSTRATION WITH THE FAMILIES, NOT NOT REALLY KNOWING. YEAH. >> I ALSO MISSUS ALL THE SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THEY'RE GOING TO GET SOME NEW, SOME NEW HELP IN THE CHAIR. AND I'M NOT SURE IF SHE WAS REFERRING TO WHATEVE NEW COUNTY COMES ALONG IS GOING TO HELP OUT WITH PROSECUTION. I DON'T ASSUME THAT'S THE CASE. I ASSUME THESE PROSECUTORS WILL MOVE TO A DIFFERENT COUNTY PERIOD. >> YEAH, IT'S GOING TO BE THE SAME PROSECUTION. OKAY. IT'S IT'S THE COUNTY PROSECUTORS AND THEN THEY'VE GOT THE HELP