I can tell you personally that I've known Dave for a long time and there is zero chance that he knew anything about this we had a conversation a year ago he and I and I can disclose this in which he mentioned this in passing this wasn't like our main point but he mentioned this and he told me I said who's funding this and he said it's a French businessman and Dave would have no reason to lie to me that he said that explicitly not for nothing but the conversation went on and I will tell you that I told him not to do it and that was not necessarily because I knew anything about the funding we didn't get into that more than him saying it was this french guy but I don't have good feelings about this Lauren Chen and I was right I do think these guys are right that they were the victims in this scheme and sure you can say they should have known I get it but you guys know I did that fraud series over um our my June vacation and I too was almost defrauded