Misses are Relevant- 2025 "Draft a team" Demonstration

one that's GNA be weird [Music] ah just learned something new are we live yes we are fantastic we are live okay well welcome to the m our relevant podcast my name is Jim um and you can find me on X at NFL Draft fanatic and today we are going to be demonstrating brand new functionality called draft a team with Greg Randall and will so Greg you want to introduce yourself and tell everybody how they can find your content I'm met Greg Cowboys on good old X and uh I'm now the draft Analyst at Team MBS media I'm I'm moving on up in the world Randall uh my name is Rand slier my Twitter or X is Rand slier and uh this is uh one of my favorite hobbies and growing the game cool and will I'm will Massac you might know me on Twitter as accidental Zen um making uh snide remarks here and there about the draft process process and the NFL uh I also run a site called Steeler fury.com for about the last 15 years of my life that's what all the gray hair comes from running a site with message boards and the like and then uh I have a podcast called the Steeler Fury Pittsburgh Steeler show that is the longest running Pittsburgh Steelers podcast in the world since 2008 I'm ancient thanks for having me thank you okay so couple things about the draft of team so right now this is not live so meaning if you go to the main site you won't find it but you can see it I'm on our test platform so there's drafter team we're going to do single user that means I'm making all the picks we'll name it there are four of us and there might be a fifth person joining in a little bit so we're going to go with five people picking um we're not changing any defaults we're not using any of the box and so Jim do you want to tell people what drafted team is and where it comes from so that's a great idea will thank you so draft a team implies that each of us is going to be picking 22 players a starting 11 offense of starting 11 defense and we can pick the players in any order that we want um as long as we fill the positions and you can see here these are the positions um and we will have a little bit of banter well okay with this group there's going to be a lot of banter um so we'll have a lot of banter going back and back and forth and it's a snake draft so we're gonna go in this case green means you're picking yellow means that you're next so I will kick it off and I'm G to draft Mason Graham first so Randall you have the next pick all right let's see with the next pick I'll just go my offensive weapon that I believe will be the best out at the end of the year and Luther buron from Missouri okay and will you are up uh I will take will Johnson the quarterback from Michigan because why not okay we're going to do a consensus pick for Jake um because he might be joining late so any suggestions for who else would be a top five player the offensive tackle from LSU yeah that'd be one uh the quarterback SL wide receiver from Colorado might be up there we we'll go with the we'll go with the offensive tackle from LSU I like the Will Campbell pick yeah and Greg you have two picks now at the turn Okay um I hate quarterbacks going in the first round but shadur Sanders okay is that your number one F it's worth it's worth mentioning having done this exercise as many times as I've been doing this since 2020 is it's not like it's not the same strategy and mentality as you might find in an ordinary mock draft where you're picking for your team that's right so your positional value and also How deep the position is really matters yeah I think maybe I'm wrong no you're right you're completely right there will completely um I'm going to next select Morrison cornerback from Notre Dame Benjamin moris okay uh we need another group pick for Jake he went cornerback did he go quarterback first uh we went offensive tackle with him first you went offensive tackle gotta I actually I mean trying to be objective about this I would take whoever you think is the number one quarter back on the board in this spot for him in this in this spot yeah so I'm G to suggest back okay that works I mean it's the consensus top quarterback whether whether not he actually or not it's not a bad pick yeah and will you are up next um I I'm corrected I do not have to do I have to confirm my position when I pick a player or can I pick a player and then switch positions with him later so fortunately for today we are locked into the position so if you're thinking of that cornerback wide receiver guy I'm not but I I'll tell you what it'll work out okay because his his two positions are both on defense so I'll just pick the one that matches and it'll it'll work out okay Abdul Carter from from Penn State I would put him in put him in as a linebacker for me please yeah I know he's gonna play Edge this year but yeah I'm not I don't believe that until I see it and he could go back a linebacker in NFL of course yeah okay Randall you are up next I'm going to take the uh Edge from Ohio State Jack Sawyer okay so I am going to take the offensive tackle from Texas Kelvin Banks and I am going to take James Pierce The Edge from Tennessee and Randall we are back to you all right I will look in the quarterback market and I'll go I'll go Jaylen milro I think he works on his game this year and he ends up having a really good year will oh back to me already wow yeah what a game this is um with only this many people it's like a luxury pick I feel yeah um I'll I'll I'm just I'll take Travis Hunter uh I actually like Travis Hunter better at corner I know that's the not the current fire but I think Travis Hunter's he will be a better Corner than he's gonna be a wide receiver and so I got the top two corners in the class that's my choice so okay and a consensus pick for Jake you I'm looking and I either see like McMillan or skirton any objections to or suggestions to either of those no no objection did uh did Mason Graham go already yeah he went first overall gotcha okay we'll go McMillan and Greg you have two picks at the turn you've taken Sanders and Morrison so far well I'm gonna go with the ohc I'm going to go to the other Michigan defensive tackle Kenneth Grant and then you have one more I'm gonna take Donovan Jackson Ohio State interior offensive lineman so you have him up right now pretty high oh oh yeah okay that one surprised me so thank you um consensus pick for Jake he's already taking quarterback wide receiver offensive line um I'm GNA throw an out there so a great thing about this technique is you can identify Talent Cliffs so for example we've had two offense of tackles taken and I'm curious when the next tackle goes off the board but I'm going to take Colston Cleveland the tight end for Jake out of Michigan Loveland Leland is that what I said or did I mispronounce that yeah you said uh Jackson or something there yeah okay and will we are back to you okay can you confirm the two tackles taken sorry I had a little trouble seeing on this broadcast the yeah it was Banks and am I allowed to Campell Banks and Campbell I I I will take the number one tackle in the class Mr Emory Jones Jr from LSU I really appreciate you guys [Laughter] playing all right I will take the top safety Malachi Starks okay so I've got two picks I'm gonna go with Uka at wide receiver and then I'm gonna go deep into the corner I'm gonna go with tario Davis and Randall back to you all right was uh was Calvin Banks taken yes he was yeah unfortunate let's go uh who did I I apologize who's my first uh pick was that uh that Ed right yeah you have Jack Sawyer Jack that's right I'll go with let's go with uh Kenneth Grant def already already come on [Laughter] how about uh how about the LSU linebacker har Harold Perkins ah I hate you you said Harold Perkins yeah that's nasty yeah versatility there absolutely they will we're back to you I mean I'm just all locked and loaded with that pck um um so did did both of the Michigan defensive tackles get picked yes they have been yeah okay uh one sec I've got notes I'll make it quick let's see see you really threw me there so well if you're looking for defensive line DM Walker is there yeah no I I that's not what I want okay I'm sorry I that's just not the guy I want uh no wores wores one second um down there um I'll have uh yeah I got sorry at the top of my board is all corners and I just took um so that's not really gonna do it for me uh how about um missing somebody here sik Williams Ohio State uh how about Michael Williams from Georgia oh Georgia yeah what position The Edge please Edge yeah okay so let's see oh got it I was thinking I don't have a Michael Williams in the database but then I just have to learn how to spell I'm good n it's one of those names yeah it's all good okay and if I don't get sniped right before me again I'll be faster next time I'm sorry I'll do my best I'll do my best so you know Jake we're building a really good offense here so we just may as well just keep stacking the offense so who do we think is the best offensive player on the board is it Bond or Trey Harris or Evan Stewart bond is pretty easy for me okay we go Bond and it is Greg Greg you are up at the turn two picks I'm going to take the next offensive tackle then I'm G to take uh Josh conly Oregon okay so this might be the first one that I don't have so we're gonna add a player what's his name Josh and then Connor Le c o n e r l y did I spell that can you read that yeah okay and that's an offensive tackle right yeah and where does he go to school Oregon Oregon so let's see if that worked this again you might be extremely talented have good offensive numbers but if you make mistakes like that I never hit save there we go okay so you Josh connly the offensive tackle from Oregon and then you have one more pick Greg yeah Danny Denise Sutton The Edge from Penn State it dang it I said I no I said dig it sorry oh okay I I thought I was gonna snipe you there or something it was just like oh no so continuing with Jake's team I am G to grab tapate rattled just to keep building the offense so Jake's team's gonna have a really good offense will you are up next U I'll take uh arante ursery to tackle for Minnesota feels like uh I mean maybe it's just because I'm a little bit behind on him but it feels like the offensive tackle class there's a bunch of guys who can play and then there's a few guys who I think seem better than that yeah I feel like it's a premium position in this kind of exercise right now so how right now how many if you had to gas how many how many offensive tackles do you think go in the top 100 this year well they might go higher because it's like I said it's so sparse that if you need if you need one or you need depth they're going to they're going to take them off the board but yeah this isn't going to be a repeat of last year's draft I don't know I mean I feel like there's there's five there's maybe five guys in the top 100 yeah sorry sorry in the top in the top 50 there may be a couple of other guys sort of like you know late third round guys yeah he Randall you are up all right I think I got to hit the I did hit the quarterback Market oh no I didn't yeah I think I'll hit the quarterback market and then looking at um is Den uh Maxwell Harriston from Kentucky okay so now it's up to me looking at what I need so I'm gonna go with an edge oh scorton still there I'm definitely taking scorton okay and then linebacker I think Barrett Carter's there yep Barrett Carter and Randall we are back to you all right how is uh is Landon Jackson taken yet from Arkansas defensive lineman he's yours if you want I will take him I'm excited to watch him this year living in fville we yeah it's fun I'm a former Arkansas resident for 18 years oh really yeah very quick aside for you Greg I think Arkansas has a has a shot at uh being the number two in the SEC this year their schedule is very favorable yes it is and I really like a couple of they got their quarterback I love and uh they're got I don't know they got something happening there and they're sort of flying under the radar well last year our main problem was offensive line and Pitt Pitman was George's offensive line coach so that was that was the most heartbreaking thing about it last year yeah okay will we are back to you uh I'll have Daryl Jackson Jr the defensive tackle from Florida State please Daryl Jacks okay how do you spell his first name uh d a r r e l l two RS two L's yeah okay okay so another player we need to add so we're going to add a player d a r r e l l correct last name uh Jackson yeah Junior Daryl Jackson Jr I think if I'm not mistaken he's a transfer from LSU uh yeah he was an LSU player and where does he go to school oh no wait I'm sorry uh Mar Maryland right oh yeah Maryland sorry that's right Maryland Miami to Florida State yeah okay there we go Jake you are up oh Jake's not here okay so we need to build an offensive Juggernaut I am going to grab the top ranked Center on our board which is Bob Thompson my understanding is there are not many centers in this class so Greg we are back to you I'm gonna go trayon Henderson Ohio State and then Luke Lee the tight end from Iowa oh man you said hon right y okay and then I'm curious is if Lee is in the database that's a that's a great pick in this kind of exercise the ti tight ends are just so weird like if you want the if you want the kind of tight end you want and you want it to be quality enough to be a top five you know top five in the tight end rankings there's not that many guys La C he y um La y c he y okay and he's a tight end and where does he go Iowa he's transfer from Stanford right oh no different different tight end I got two on my board the other one now you probably figured out it would just help if I just used the filter oh apparently he was already there and I just didn't know to spell there we go this is this will happen yep you're juggling right now props to you okay so we're back to Jake I'm going to take an offensive tackle I will take a Johnny Cornelius and will we are back to you okay um H boy I am gonna take Evan storeart the wide receiver from Oregon okay r we back to you hey hey can we at some point can we um do just like a quick little uh show each team that's been built right now just yeah yeah I'll do that when I get to my when I get to perfect thank you very much just so that I can remember who I picked all right so I'll leave I'll go with tackle offensive tackle Jack Nelson from Wisconsin has he been taken yet no he hasn't been taken I have him in here as a guard oh gotcha as a tackle though right so he's got both he's got both yeah so unfortunately in our database a player can only have one position so will would you be suggesting and Greg would you be suggesting that I switch him to tackle in the database um those players I think it's like they could play either and it depends on the team fit yeah sorry I mean that's the best answer I can give you I you know I don't know what else I think I would leave him as I would leave him as a guard really okay so so Randall I did give you Nelson um he happen to be for the point of this exercise he'll be in as a guard that so this is a great great time to pause we'll go through the teams but I'll also talk about like the limitations right so will like when I I really loved your exercise I learned a lot from it last year it's really easy to switch a player's position when you use a spreadsheet sure a little bit harder when we use a database so my team right now is egbuka Banks gram Pierce scorton Carter and tario Davis Randall's team is milro burden Jack Nelson Jack Sawyer Landon Jackson Harold Perkins Maxwell hariston and Maliki Starks and it does not appear as though I have a scroll right button so I'm learning some things about my UI hey that's why we're here yep so will like one of the things that you had mentioned to me in a message was well it would be a really good thing if there was a way to see every team I think the solution to that is going to be a URL that would look like a spreadsheet so right it would remove this entire player list and you would just get to see every team um but we haven't done that yet because we're still working on the bots so the Bots the team Bots are working but they're not it's not fully functional yet yeah okay so who's picking now and then we can show Will's team and then yeah so it is my pick so I'm gonna get my second corner I think I'm gonna go Sebastian Castro and then I am gonna grab a safety and I am going to go Xavier Watts because I know that if I don't take him Greg is GNA take him soon oh you guys both you suck you just took my S no I'm kidding that's that I think Xavier watts is ridiculously underrated right now he is my number one safety and I have I've been looking at a bunch of list I don't see him in anybody's top 50 or top five safeties which blows my mind he let the entire nation in interceptions last year how does he not get ranked I don't understand that I don't get it yep so Randall you are up all right I'll uh since I got him as a guard I'm gonna stick with tackle and go back toback offensive line um was uh Blake Miller chosen he's there I'll take Blake Miller okay so will your team so far is Evan Stewart emyy Jones arante ursery Michael Williams Daryl Jackson J Jun Abdul Carter will Johnson and Travis Hunter okay sorry I was trying to catch up to that so I have on offense wide receiver uh tackle tackle and what else anything that was it you only have those three offensive positions okay I'll have ashh giante the W the running back from Boise State very nice pick I feel like that's uh quite a bit better than the next guy yep okay so for Jake I'm going to go with Nick Singleton the running back from Penn State and Greg oh oh and I'll go over Jake's team so Jake has Carson Beck Nick Singleton Colston Loveland T tooa McMillan how well did I do in that not bad Isaiah B will Campbell a Johnny Cornelius Tate rattled and Bob Thompson and then Greg's team is shadur Sanders trayon Henderson Luke Lee Jos connly Donovan Jackson Kenneth Grant Donnie Dennis Sutton and Benjamin Morris all right I'm going to take another I'm going to take another running back amarian Hampton North Carolina okay and you have one more yeah I'm also going to take uh uh a safety Xavier Nampa Iowa okay so Jake's team needs one more offensive lineman and the offense is nearly done I'm GNA go Tyler Booker and will you are up uh jt2 moaa The Edge from Ohio State how about that pronunciation come on now impr very good that was impressive Randall you are up uh all right I'll go running back and I'll go I'll go uh Raheem Sanders rocket Sanders I think he makes his back Ascension in uh South Carolina okay so from a safety standpoint I'm gonna go Keon Sab from Alabama and now I got to start working on my offense yeah no kidding I am gonna go with Trey Harris and Randall it is back to you all right I'm gonna go with I need a second safety do I need a second safety in this yeah one two safeties I'll do another safety let's go uh Sebastian Castro think already I took him as a corner yeah he's a corner he's actually a corner Goa that's but you are correct I've seen some boards with him as a safety yes he'll end up as a nickel Corner in the NFL let's go with another wide receiver and I'll take I'll take justice Ross Simmons what was his first name uh Justin okay so it looks like I need to add him s and go to school H Syracuse brother okay will so just to confirm uh how many how many picks what round is this we're I think we're about halfway done is this is this round 10 maybe I guess that's another what's that this is 11 this is 11 half I'm I'm missing somebody but I'll I'll figure it out in a second um I will take uh James Thompson the defensive lineman from Wisconsin so farell okay another player I need to add James Thompson yes spell the last name t h o m PS o n and you said defensive lineman correct and you said wiconsin right yeah's Rec doubl he's a f you know he's a five tech type if you like that that type okay so for Jake's team we're gonna start doing the defense all of them great all K Williams highest defensive player on the board Greg you are up yeah take Fernando Carmona offensive tackle Arkansas I think I've solidified my left and right hand sides okay you said Fernando yeah and last name Carmona c a r m o n a offensive tackle what School Arkansas thank you and then I'm going to take princ Ley uman Milan Edge Old Miss he transferred I didn't know that yeah yeah uh for Jake's team I will take Denzel Burke the corner from Ohio State and Randall you are up all right all right well I'll take the other tight end that I enjoyed on the board of Benjamin osac okay oh okay will you just got Benjamin Euros SEC somehow it SK it either skipped you or I didn't call on you oh no wait I got I got who Benjamin euroi the tight end sorry about that that's yeah that's not right man I'll take them I guess all right uh I was going to wait on tight end for quite a long time so yeah so Randall you are up but um sorry about that will that's all right I'll live he's a good player yes he is so Rand you get you you do have a pick yep uh I'll go Center Jake Majors unless he was chosen as well doesn't look like it I'm checking to see if I have him under okay yeah yep he's there okay okay so my team I need the best offensive player on the board Ernest Green guards from Georgia and then I need more offense I will go bright NE the tight end from North Carolina and we are back to Randall all right I will take apologies I need another offensive tackle so I'll take an offensive tackle Maris Cox from Kentucky got him will I didn't skip you this time it's a miracle uh so you threw me with that tight impi I'm still trying to get figure out what I understand it's difficult to recover from some of my mistakes it's okay it was gonna be all right I'm just trying to figure out [Music] that I will go with sry 10 seconds I know I'm holding up the show oh that's all right we're good we're actually making really good time we have gotten like 12 rounds and 45 minutes yeah uh I think I will go with uh Lander Barton linebacker from Utah okay and we are to Jake's team so Patrick pton highest defensive player available and Greg Parker braford Center Alabama okay so I don't see him there let's check this do I have him in a different position I have him as guard would you have him at guard or Center no he's a pure Center okay so I'm I'm gonna draft him for you and then I will have to flip his position in the day to base later yeah okay and we are to Greg to want for one more pick yeah I'm going to take Tyler Booker gone yet yeah I believe yes yeah he is gone isn't he okay uh I'm going to take Jonas sanker safety Virginia you said Jonah uh it's Jonas j o n okay another player I need to add and then and then s n k r is his last name s a n k r yeah and he's a safety and he's playing at Virginia thank you so then the question I ask myself at this point is is this the first Virginia player I've ever had in my day to I don't think so I don't see that's funny okay so I know he goes to Virginia I will switch that in the database I'm taking some notes Here off to the side okay so for Jake's team gonna take highest defensive player available dim Walker is still on the board really yep so this group doesn't seem to be as high on Walkers I've seen other people okay will we are back to you right okay uh still trying to figure out the player that I'm that I picked that I'm missing so uh okay hold on can you just show me my uh my board for one second yeah so you have Ashton Jey Benjamin Evan Stewart emry Jones arante ursery right Michael Williams Daryl Jackson Jr JT tuy mow Abdul Carter will Johnson Travis Hunter Lance Barton and James Thompson all right so I have right now I I I still need an edge and two safeties right a corner a third Corner two safeties in an edge that's what I got left on defense right just making sure so according to this your defensive line is full so well Abdu Carter I picked as a linebacker I thought but so he's linebacker here so in our algorithm this is a good discussion there's three defensive Lin one linebacker four DBS and then three flexes okay well oh I see there's a flex so I can put a different thing in okay I got right but the flex that you're missing according to our algorithm is your cornerback safety because it's only 20 it's only 11 players on defense that's fine I'll just I'll go with the flow and pick the player that plays linebacker that's fine I'll take Danny studman a linebacker from Oklahoma yeah it won't let us because there's no linebackers available Oh I thought you just said that they ABD that Abdul Carter was at Edge no you hav't at linebacker oh great great great great then I have an edge available right you your only defensive Flex is Corner safety so it assigned Lander Barton to one of the linebacker Flex spots and it assigned James Thompson to a defensive line or linebacker Flex spot so I see that I see three I see three linemen that's what I'm confused about right now I got and I guess this is an important discussion because I should be able to understand this so I'm looking at the 11 positions and I see what position do you have Lander Barton he would be a linebacker yeah so when you drafted him it went to a linebacker Corner safety Flex that'll be the flex I believe that's opposite should still have I should have three corners two linebackers two edges that's what my goal would be but you okay definitely take a third Corner James Thompson what position do you have him he would be defensive tackle yeah yep and he went to that Flex spot that had here right this will be Michael Michael Williams Michel Williams should be yeah he's an edge but you you have defensive line mixed together like a I got you okay yep so James Thompson this defensive Flex right here is the one that's opposite the right tackle and tit I I get it so I I think it worked out fine anyway because I have looks like I have two if I use Abdul Carter as an edge I got that that's fine so I really what you're telling me is I basically need three more defensive players one of whom probably going to be a corner and two safeties so I that's perfectly fine I understand better now it's it's the you know the thing I'm getting used to here is the labeling of positions with the and I'm hoping to have some discussion about that at the end when you see your picture yeah I got you okay so sorry I won't I don't need to make it crazier than that that's okay I I can take the criticism I'm good no it's not even a criticism I'm just trying to figure it out okay so uh I will take um safety from Oklahoma Billy Bowman Jr okay Randall you are up all right um I believe I'm short cornerback is that correct you yes you're short a corner and a safy and defensive L will you pull up the available cornerbacks just so I can look through compare if you need phone a friend we can ask different people for opinions keante Scott from Auburn nice pick he's yours just want to make sure he's available okay so I am looking for offense wait a second do I need a linebacker okay and I'm taking stutsman because he's still there even though I need offense more than I need defense so interesting when I was podcasting with Corey last year Corey had stman with a first round grade last year yeah and then he went back to school so I haven't seen anybody rate him that high but Cory had him with a first- round grade last year yeah I think it's a Well I tend to Value I I like him a lot I tend to Value coverage backers a little bit more than I you know Suman strikes me as a little bit more of a downhill guy um but right but I'm unusual in that respect for people who like downhill linebackers he really ought to be you know top three at worst so I took Howard cross defensive lineman from NRE Dame and Rand what are you doing to me Jim you keep taking the Irish guys from me say like I gotta play the audience right I know that Greg likes to take nordre Dame players so I gotta take the audience I gotta play the audience just a little bit all right um I'll look back in the safety department I still need another safety correct and uh yes yeah right I'm gonna go with major Burns from LSU okay and will you are up okay will and I are playing chicken with quarterbacks neither him or I have taken a quarterback here yeah well I have two that I like a lot so you can only take one of them um that's what the other thing about this exercise is I know how many quarterbacks are gonna get picked so that's very helpful um and I always like quarterbacks that no one else likes so that's okay and uh and I feel proud of my I feel proud of some of those I you know I was I was the will Lis stand so I think this year is probably going to be a you know and Malik Willis was traded to the Packers today yeah yep yeah for like a seventh rounder right yeah like Buffalo should have scooped in on that action we need a backup quarterback is Justin field available funny well there there's some guys there's some guys floating around that can be had I'm sure I'm sure we're set on denucci I'm not sure the Steelers are going to keep three Kyle Allen actually is a perfectly fine backup quarterback very good yeah and I will take best friends that's funny I will I will uh let's see so I so I currently need uh a safety a corner on defense right that's all I have left on on defense that is correct and then on offense I need offensive line a wide receiver and a flex and a quarterback right and a quarterback okay so uh I will have uh Gunner Maldonado free safety from Arizona Arizona yep I'm looking for him Gunner Maldonado yeah yeah okay and for Jake's team we are going to go highest defensive player I'm gonna go sioban Ravel how well did I say that name very well from Eastern Carolina so I have a question this was a new name for me about three days ago how high is he like is he in your top 100 just out of curiosity not in my top 100 but he's in my top 150 got it he's he's a player you know the thing is at this point he's got a year to play that's right there's a lot that can happen to move him up or down I mean and these are just the preseason rankings right I mean everything changes based upon how they're playing and all that jazz the injuries and all that fun sort of stuff too right the only the only thing we know more about now is the ones that moved you know what kind of situation they might be in this year but even that's a wild guess honestly okay so Greg we are at you for two picks all right so what do I need left on defense linebacker corner and three flexs okay um Jan Bram line back from Michigan look at me picking all these guys from that school up north God painful isn't it oh you're gonna you're gonna you know lose you tell me the first name um okay it's j AI s h a w n j a i s h okay s h a w yep so we're going to add him and then Bram BR r a a m how well did I do on that name very well this is I was actually impressed that I got that because I thought I misspelled it really and I need a corner yes oh I need a wide receiver as well don't I we need two wide receivers at least yeah okay I'm gonna go with the uh kid from Stanford ellic a Manor what what position wide receiver spell the first name e l i c okay and then for Jake's team yeah I'm gonna go with Ashton [Music] jalo and will you are up I am uh I uh I think there's this guy is a top 40 player hasn't been picked yet so despite the fact that I already have number one and number two corners uh in the draft I gonna take Jade Baron the corner from Texas for my slot love him one of my draft crushes right now Randall you are up all right um I'm looking at I believe I need a flex and defensive line am I correct you need a defensive lineman and you have another Flex for the defensive line if you choose all right how about uh Nair stack house Georgia okay I am back up I need offensive tackle and interior offensive very good Innings from Z Kelly as the soal opener here tonight Alex by the way is a great just like to say yeah thank you and I'm gonna go with Bryce Foster from Texas A Randall you are up look Ator offensive line if you could pull that up for me just to make sure I don't yep um miles Frasier LSU yeah he should be available is he yeah there he is perfect okay will you are up great um H I'm just trying to figure out what the so I need uh two wide receivers interor interior offensive line right and a quarterback someday I'll pick one yes I will take wide receiver Delvin Smith from Western Kentucky please okay you said Delvin delin and you will know his name a lot better come April yes you will okay Delvin d l v i n d d a d a l v d yeah let me before I do this let me go check and make sure that I no okay we do have to add him what was the last name Smith how do you spell just kidding and you said Kentucky uh Western Kentucky yeah Western okay and for Jake's team we will go with left offensive Flex go with Tory Harton from Colorado State and Greg you are up with two picks yeah wide receiver Center corner and three defensive flxs wide receiver and which wide receiver Center because brails forward on for the point of this guard um yeah lovely I don't know why brab ended up being a guard because he's never he's not big enough to play guard no and in the in the sheet that I loaded he was labeled as iol and I had a 50/50 shot of either him all right um so that's operator error that should be a team operator error yeah we just randomly pick the next guy like from you know weirdly from wherever spot there possibility for that I'll take Brian Stevens a center from Virginia okay so let me and I get another defensive tackle here don't I yes so how do you spell Brian oh it's a b r i n okay so Brian Stevens center from Virginia so there's another Cavalier going for you Virginia Tech today yeah for today and nobody nobody took Ty Williams the DT from Ohio State have they yeah he got taken by the by Jake's team yeah okay Jake Jake's team got him all right um okay I'm GNA take um Idan bryck cornerback from Washington do you need help spelling him I'm looking to see if I have him but yes I need help okay what was his first name Ephesians uh e p EI or pardon me e s i a ANS and then Prok p r y s o c k okay spell that one more time please first or last yes okay e p h e s i a ANS and then the last name p r y s o c k and you said he's a corner cornerback Washington he played for Arizona last year what what position is that he's a corner oh yeah so will was that a new name for you too uh yes I was trying to figure out why anybody would leave Arizona right now um because the head coach went up to Washington and he joined them oh yeah well there you go that's a good reason yeah I just you know when you have they have some players there oh yeah so I'm gonna go with SM monden for Jake's team at linebacker and will you are up I will take as a guard Anthony Belton of North Carolina State can I do that y so I have him in here as a tackle so that's not going to work because I can't flip the positions during the exercise but yeah I feel like I feel like offensive line might be something to consider for you in the future is just to have offensive line line be a little bit more multiple yes because that's probably where a guy like that ends up in the NFL I think yeah like you know the kind of guy the Ravens would have as their right as their Right Guard the reason we're doing the exercise so early in the season is so we can make changes oh heck yeah no I get it okay so but right right now I have I'm full on defense right so uh I will pick Center Mari Smith from Florida State please despite what they look like over the weekend Randall you are up all right um let me see what the uh tight end Market is looking at at the moment see who I might have not noticed all right um I'll go with Oscar Del so I need a tackle so I'm gonna go Wyatt Millum from West Virginia I have my tackle I need a running back I'm probably the last one to take a running [Music] back I'm GNA go with quinan Judkins from Ohio State at running back and Randall we are back to you how is Ohio State gonna control both backs those are two great backs on the same team let's go what do I got offensive offensive Flex flex and then you have three defensive flexes how about uh Dante seus from Penn State yeah this that SL down away so strong off the end of the bat and will you are up Jonah sa interior offensive lineman from Arizona yep say the name one more time please hey good luck let me just spell it Jonah first name last name s a v a i i n a ea so the first time I ask you to spell it is when I'm searching for him now I need you to spell it so I can add him s a v a i i n a e a and his first name is Jonah and where did he go to school Arizona Arizona yeah what you get from prompting me on Arizona you guys having fun yet why not we are almost done it's a unique challenge is it not just a little especially this time of year okay Greg you are up I'm up twice yes okay so what do I got for defensive Flex I got three you have three and if you give me a corner or safe like so just to give you guys an idea like this is a great example here with Greg okay so if you look if you pick a linebacker it's going to go to this one first if you pick a defensive linan and Edge it would definitely go here and if you picked a corner it's going to go here before it goes here um and I've asked my developer to give me like a recycle button so if you want to move it to a different spot right it will but that hasn't been added yet so okay um so a corner or a safety I'm going to take L miles Brook safety Georgia Tech and I still need a wide receiver as well right so miles with a with an i h yeah it's l miles L A Mi I Lees Brooks there we go he's there yeah okay so you got the miles Brooks and then I need a w another wide receiver don't I yes you do GNA take Nick Anderson wide receiver Oklahoma Nick is in Ni uh it's just um Nic and Anderson was his last name yeah and you said Oklahoma right right okay so Jake team needs a safety okay and will you are up guard offensive flex and you're done well I might want to pick a quarterback before this is all done uh I'm very curious who you're gonna pick let's be real uh well I'm gonna go I I'll go now I'll take the I I do prefer him he's my number one quarterback so I'll take Cameron ward in the University of Miami I thinkon Ward had come out in 2025 he might have been the best quarterback in the draft so I'm not really sure why he went back to school except for I heard his n deal in Miami was was a very sweet deal because he turned down he was already signed Ohio State and he turned he basically walked away from Ohio State to go to Miami so yeah well there's probably a few more beaches in Miami and maybe other amenities in Miami that you can't get in Ohio yeah speaking from somebody that lives a 100 miles from Columbus right all right um let's see is uh J uh Jaylen Catalin still available UNLV nice [Music] choice okay so I need corner or safety you know don't love that double transfer but he's a really good player yeah I agree the double transfer is but well he'll be older he'll be 24 or whatever but it's like you know he can play and once again you're not picking necessarily the whatever we're picking 22 times five I'm not sure he's a top 100 player but he might be your top five safety So you you're good yeah so Randa wear back to you I took Dorian strong corner from Virginia Tech all right and then I took J Michael Stant the wide receiver from UCLA and then uh I think I'm just down at the bottom in flexes am I right yes so you're looking for the player that's going to cover the tight end and then you're looking for a player that's going to cover the right tackle sounds good is uh L Barton available from Utah no he's picked I picked him he's picked Ha sniped somebody yeah how about uh um uh Jay Higgins from Iowa oh that's funny are there really did my spr sheet get duplicated when I load it or there really two players with names that similar different schools it says yeah and which one which one do you want Randall uh the linebacker not wide receiver will you are up I'm not is there really an Iowa player that's Jaden Jaylen Higgins sorry I can get your info off the spreadsheet that I loaded yeah I'm looking right now I see only Jaylen Higgins that's the one from Iowa State for the records um I will have I I got two wide receivers here's another thing about this selection this deal is if you'd like to have wide receivers of different types then you know they might skip around the rankings a little bit but here's a guy I feel is very under the radar um he did make the Senior Bowl watch list but that for whatever that's worth Doran Clark of UTSA yeah yeah I got two kind of not smaller guys but no it's not that's not true I got two guys that are sort of all-arounders I need a sort of a big possession guy and he's my favorite for um Jake's team Corner Mansour Delan from Virginia Tech that's a good pick at this stage Jesus this is a really deep cornerback plan Greg you are up you have two defensive flexes yeah I'm gonna take jaman Dumis Johnson linebacker Kentucky so Corey had a really high grade on him be last year before he went to school and your final pick Greg this is your Mr Irrelevant on the Mrs our relevant podcast yeah oh you're looking for any defensive front Seven Player yeah Damonte part clemon spell the first name d m o n t Okay so that's another one I need to add Damon Clark uh no it's Damonte D capital m o n t and then C and then what capart c a p e h a t wow what a name and he's a linebacker uh NOP defensive tackle Clemson oh yeah I know who this is he's I he's really good I probably should have had him higher I remember him okay and I don't like cemon players either because I don't like their damn coach but anyhow I most certainly agree but you have to be unbiased when you're doing this okay Jake's team needs a linebacker corner or safety linebacker corner I'm going to go Quincy Riley corner from Louisville nice pick yeah and will you are looking for a guard and I happen to have one his name is Marcus where wehr from Montana State University yep and he's he's one of the I would I would call him top three uh FCS player this year maybe no worse than top five he's he's in he's he's number four on my list right now so yeah I like him a little bit better than the tackle that I'm sure you're thinking of Greg no no no he's got a famous name that tackle I know but that tackle is down on my list okay so I have to change his school Randall so apparently I've never had a Montana State player in the DAT Randall you are at a defensive flag so you need a down lineman or a linebacker let's see how high do any of you have Cayman Rucker just out of curiosity I I try not to do edges too early uh yeah they fool me but um I don't have him on my sort of like short short list there's a couple of guys that were not picked that I have higher let's put it that way yeah I've seen some people with him in the top 100 and he was still available so I thought I would how about uh JJ Weaver Kentucky nice pick okay and my final pick is going to be a quarterback Ry Leonard Notre Dame you just keep going with him keep going with that's it Riley Leonard that is the quarterback I'm actually going Conor Wegman oh no that's not that's not bad it's it's not it's not a shoot for the stars pick but it's solid that's solid so I'm downloading all of our images but um so will I'm gonna have you kick this off so this is do you see the do you see your picture yes you want to talk everybody through the players that you picked and you don't have you don't have to go all 22 but feel free to talk through it all right but the way this works out is that this it's that is so Travis Hunter and DN Smith are like the flex offensive players is that how this work here oh no I see they're the outside corners I got outside white as defense yellow is offense yeah yeah I gotta so to walk it through meaning how I feel about my my picks yeah or like any of the players you want to highlight that maybe you like that people may not know about yet yeah I mean well we I we I mentioned Marcus wear a little bit um he's a guy that a lot of movement skills and uh played also played tackle and guard but he's he's I think in the NFL he's a move guard for you he's not a behemoth um you know but he is you know a 300 plus pounder and and I think he's he's he will be one of those cats that by the time we get to the Senior Bowl that people will be talking about him he may be the Senior Bowl small schull lineman that people get to know this year is always one or two um Abal Carter as I said I I don't know what to expect of him as an edge but as a linebacker he's the best linebacker of the last two years I thought in college football uh can do everything did you read did you read my big big 10 20 Prospect article bill I happen I happen to read it yes yeah what did I say that he was he he was just a great linebacker for two years I yeah um I really like Marcus Marcus Maurice Smith and also uh the guy that plays next to him that was a former Center uh what is his name it's uh Keandre Jones those two guys for FL State I think are both going to be I don't know how highly they'll be drafted but I'll bet you that this time next year people will be talking about them as value buys on the offensive line they're both really good um and uh and other than that you know it's pretty I would have taken a different tight end I can say it safely now I I would have taken Oscar card Oscar Cardines from UTSA who's a guy that nobody is talking about at all right now but uh I feel like he's the best group of how is it what's the is it the group of five or eight or four now who how many groups how many how many conferences are left after the we have curently 4.2 now is is what they say that sounds about right I feel like he's a he's a really good um you know the guy Lee from from Iowa I feel like will get drafted very highly because he's he's at Iowa and he's a you know like a 2-a and he's NFL Bloodlines and whatever but I do think the cardinus will be a guy that who of course I took Mr Lee yeah and um and then the last lastly Delvin Smith is a guy you might know not know about but um he's uh he had three touchdowns in the bowl game and that's he played on a team with um who's the guy that was a hot draft pick last year that everybody liked because he was kind of got mentioned as a Debo Samuel type oh Corley yeah Malachi Corley so he was on the same team as Maliki Corley and yet he was a guy that probably got more was you know looked like a better wide receiver so if you like Malachi Corley you'll love Delvin Smith Delvin Smith does a lot more on the field than Malachi Corley does who is a one- trick pony yeah that's kind of how I felt watching him as well yeah I hate to agree with Greg but I agree it's terrible isn't it it really sucks when you have to agree with me it really does yeah okay hey Greg do you want to take everybody through some of the picks that you like on your team um I took the number two Corner in this draft class in Brendan Morrison from Notre Gam he was the only Fighting Irish player that I got but anyhow uh that's thanks to you Jim but um I like both of my running backs um shadur Sanders was just a shot in the dark because of course everybody's got his name up there blah blah blah um I really like my safeties and I really do enjoy my offensive line quite a bit even though my real Center is a guard uh Parker brailsford is a reminiscent guy to a member of the Great Wall of Dallas Mark stepnoski he's not a big fella at all he's only 275 he is a small guy but if you watched him play at Washington last year he moved people out of the way and that's all you need a senator do is just to ship the guy off right you don't need the guy that can blow your blow the doors off like a Travis Fredick could or whatever but brailsford is a center that I really really like watching and he's gonna play well at Alabama okay anybody else you want to talk about or is that no I'm I'm pretty good there cool okay hey Randall this is your you want about I'll make it I'll try to make it quick uh yeah Luther Burton of course because you know it's he's the number one wide receiver until in my opinion until somebody else takes it away from him uh great yards after contact and uh after catch sort of thing six foot 200 pound I'm excited to watch him even though you know being in Arkansas we hate Missouri um I do I love wa watching Nair State uh naer stack house last year so I'm curious to see how he brings it this year uh you know played every single game last year great um D tackle um my safeties are interesting i' I'm curious with Malachai Starks and then obviously the cornerback and uh K Scott as well let's see Jaylen milro um you know even with Alabama's new head coach uh jayen milro did play very well last year so we'll see if that continues he adjust to not having Nick Sabin that that'll be interesting see and then rocket Sanders you know two years last year he was number two running back behind um the Ohio State Ohio State guy um that is that he went quinin Jenkins so I'm curious to see how he makes his comeback in South Carolina cool okay so the next thing I'd like to do briefly and will I'm going to Pivot this one to you so will can you talk about like the value of the exercise and like why either other podcasters would want to do this or sure like what what you see as the value yeah I I found in doing this like closer to the draft let's put it that way as you get as we get it to the point where you're starting to get familiar with the depth of the draft it's it's an excellent exercise for understanding the depth of the position class the position group right so it isn't just about who are the top 50 players it's how many Edge players do you really like would you really go to bad for how many quarterbacks how many running backs and and I think that's a sometimes it's a real eye opener you know to see uh that there are five you know if there are five really good cornerbacks but it drops off after that people will say what an amazing cornerback class because there's these five great ones but if you're trying to fill out more than five teams or five teams with three quarterbacks each you might not feel the same way about the class right and that would influence how you conduct the exercise and it should influence in my opinion how you conduct a regular draft like if you're drafting for a team like the Buffalo Bills and you need a cornerback you might be inclined to take one early even though it's a there are five good ones because if you miss out on the top five it's a big drop off right so that's the kind of I think that's what you learn from this exercise is just you know how many guys you feel are in each tier and and getting a feel for you know how like like I choose to wait on certain players because I like them more than their hype and I feel like there's there's not that much difference between them and the other guys that are available and I feel like that you having to employ that kind of a strategy is telling you what you feel about the depth of the business yeah yeah so I want to piggyback on that because this exercise can show Talent Clips okay and this bot right here isn't working yet but that's actually going to be a a talent Cliff bot so the bot is going to be designed to find Talent Cliffs and when it finds the cliff that's going to be the position that it takes so the team Bots these do work now and if you're familiar with the simulator each team has its own board so the team bot are looking at the boards from the fan drafts that are changing the boards up and down so for example Greg if you turn on a Cowboys bot yeah you're basically drafting against the players that Cowboys fans have not drafted to death yeah which which of course last year was a nightmare yeah so you could turn on like so one of my Visions for this would be like will for example you could turn on all of the AFC North Bots M and then say does that look like a Browns team does that look like a Bengals team based upon like what their team needs are they're going to be closer to the top so therefore those players would be taken first just based upon the player board's moving yeah so so the the team Bots just look at the team player boards the site bot will be the US us will have a variable but it's going to be looking for a talent Cliff so that's what I think you've addressed the three things that really go into the draft which is one your well four four things one is positional value second is uh the you know ratings so-called rankings of players overall the talent Cliffs and then team team uh perspective so I feel like that's really what if you were trying to do a draft bot that would be the four the four areas to deal with pretty good yeah do you have do you have position weighted now for the for Bots no there's no position waiting so you're not you're not picking a quarter quarterback Edge or offensive tackle you just the only way they would get picked earlier is if there's a talent drop but for the team Bots there's no Cliff it's literally what's the board it's taking the highest player on the board assuming that that position is open on the team all right so they're they're just BP they're picking bpas it's literally BPA as long as the position is open on the team yes whereas the talent Cliff it's only this bot up here so the will they work together will they work together with the team Bots or not no they're two completely different algorithms gotcha okay so it would add a lot of Randomness like so if you turn down let's say a Steelers B and a site bot they're not using the same logic so you your the drafts like if you're either doing it on your own or you want you had to have three teams for the purpose of a podcast right because three teams times 22 players you get to talk about the top 66 the the the order is going to be very random you wouldn't be able to predict what's gonna happen that's the idea yep I got you yeah okay um so I appreciate all four of you sharing your time [Music] um the the next time I'm hoping to do a podcast like this is g to be Black Friday as like a pre-senior bowl special right like where are we you know and at that point I think most boards are significantly more mature than they are today yeah but but at the same time the November you know what a board is in November is not usually what it looks like even by the time the senior ball rolls around in January yeah right or or even March after the pro days and all that fun sort of stuff it all changes yeah I mean I would I'd kind of say that I almost feel like the week after the senior mole is where you know things are more much more solid it's going through the whole all Allstar section before the combine and before Pro is a real marking point and then after Pro days and the combine is like the second marking point and then yeah you know just before the draft all these things make more sense but but yeah there something about the senior bow week that I think the Senior Bowl is the first time that most casual draft people who are fans of the draft or fans of their team's draft the first time that they really get interested in the draft is oh but they should be watching the East West Shrine Bowl I agree with you well not instead but uh I agree with you it's just that I the East West the East West game comes before the Senior Bowl always and it should be watched by everybody who watches this draft everybody yeah well if you're doing draft a team like this you want to be watching whatever stupid All-Star game I'm sorry I didn't mean that whatever random Allstar games are played because because n LPA used to be the place where you know I I went a couple of times and I would find prospects there that were perfect for the end of the roster for these kinds of draft so anyway uh good all of that is great we're happy I'm H so happy this exists that it came you know I had this random idea during the during the pandemic and for you to make it a reality is incredible actually so I feel pretty good and it the functionality isn't done but here's like the sweet spot for me so one of the tough EST things with running a draft website is having a player that's difficult right because like one of the things that made me happy is I think will I think you got one name from Greg and Greg you may have gotten one name from will sure right that wasn't on your board or whatever and doing an event like this I was able to add players from both of your boards into my set so I can't do that without the help of both of you and all hey Jim remember amateurs borrow professionals steal that's right well it guys it's been two hour well hour 45 minutes so I like I said I am very thankful that you gave your time uh to help my channel and my site out so thank you so much um so Randall Greg will thank you so much and until next time um I appreciate everybody cheio thanks guys talk to you soon thank you okay bye bye now