is your concern that it's oh go ahead but I I do want to ask this question quickly sergeant major and I appreciate your time but is your concern about the manner in which he did not speak to you or his decision to retire which he as we've talked about he would have been entitled to do which causes the most concern because that is the focus that so many people are wondering about whether he has done something wrong in service or done something personally to offend you he no he he did something wrong in Services I stated before he he knew the policies and procedures and how we go to leadership and address issues or discuss issues and concerns out there uh again backing up he had told me no I'm going forward uh we're going to go with the Battalion and go from there uh so I'm under the believing he told me he was going forward I'm underneath that believing that he's going forward he went around me which he should have addressed it with me so we could help do some things out there U sergeant excuse me I I don't want to cut you off sir thank finish your point please sergeant major U he you know went around me and the fact is is that there's possibility he probably would have if I realized I would have probably know it's too late you're going forward because we had already received our not notification of sourc uh and there's one other little out there that people say well he hadn't been notified yet yes he had been notified now there's another step out there is what's called uh stop loss 90 days prior to the actual deplo in we received our orders and at that time is what's called stop loss where if you're in a position you're going forward irregardless unless there's some really major or uh process that get you out from not going on the deployment itself so there's that window of opportunity and people say we never knew he was going forward yeah he knew he was going forward had he gotten his orders yet no at that time he had not uh as far as being a command sergeant major he as soon as he retired or I'm going to go with the term retired which he did which and he was eligible after 20 years to get a full retirement U he was taken out of the academy at that time uh here's another thing about well sergeant major I I do want to hear that I do want to hear what you have to say sergeant major um I I know I want to be sensitive of of your time and your your audio is beginning to break up just a little bit but I do want to thank you because I think you've clarified a lot for people and given more information the question now is how the voters will evaluate it sergeant major Doug Julian thank you so much yes thank you I should note our show has reached out to the Harris walls campaign for comment and have not heard back