Intro the next witness in Trump trial day five is Jessica Leeds you see a photograph of her here she is a woman accusing Donald Trump of attacking her on an airplane and just like e Gene Carroll's case we have a hard time pinning down the date on this one too apparently it was in 1978 or 1979 who knows she was age 37 allegedly and she had a hard time talking about her case too and the reason why it's important to pin these dates down is because it's hard to defend them if you don't know the dates Trump or anybody accused of a crime can say I wasn't there at that time I wasn't here to corroborate your claims but if it's a big broad window of time very difficult to defend and so she is called in to court for Testimony by E Gene Carroll's lawyer Jessica Leeds called to Testify here's how it starts Iran the plaintiff calls Jessica leads into court today misleads can you tell me about your job she says yeah I am a stockbroker used to be a stockbroker at 20 Broad Street near Wall Street and where did you meet Donald Trump I said I was on a plane I think 1979 or 1978 give or take I was flying from Dallas or Atlanta don't even know the location it was Midday and I was 37 years old they post a photograph up there her hair is long she said I got a weird invite when I was on the plane I was the only woman there and I got invited up to First Class and Donald Trump introduced himself to me and said Jessica did you know of him she says no I didn't I was living in Connecticut but they served a very nice meal as braniff was known for on the plane and what happened next Jessica Donald Trump grabbed me and groped me it was like he had 40 zillion hands he put his hand up my skirt and that gave me a jolt I wiggled out and stormed back onto Coach did you say anything to anyone or did anyone say anything the guy in the aisle his eyes were saucers Council says have you given any interviews about this Jessica yeah I was there with Anderson Cooper and did you talk to Anderson about how long this whole incident lasted she said yeah I did I told Anderson Cooper it was 15 minutes whoa but in fact it was seconds have you given interviews about this she says yeah I said it was 15 minutes but in fact it was seconds now Leeds did you ever tell anyone about this she says no I didn't it never occurred to me says it was Anderson Cooper who asked Trump the question during the debate with Hillary so I agreed to be on his show I had written a letter in the New York Times and Megan two hay called me said she'd be a reporter she'd send a reporter over and so he came over and they brought over a photographer says I don't know if you've ever had the experience of picking up a newspaper and seeing your face on the front page wow I was amazed says what's this this is the debate where Anderson Cooper asked him if he had harassed a woman plaintiff offers that as an exhibit Trump's defense team objects says all right let's look at the transcript it's only two minutes and 27 seconds and this is the video of Cooper asking about the Hollywood Access tape Trump says hey look Cooper this was just locker room talk okay we have a world of Isis chopping off heads drowning people in steel cages I will knock the hell out of Isis Cooper says are you saying that what you said on the bus 11 years ago you never did that he says no I never did now back in court the plaintiff asks Carol's Witness misleads Jessica did you watch the debate she says yeah I did I was Furious what was done to me there was Foreign Press even from Japan and France a couple more appearances on CNN and MSNBC what was the response she explains says I don't do Facebook but people say thank you when did the New York Times run your story Jessica she says it was October 2016. I heard he said that he would never attack me but he was looking at a 76 year old woman not that 37 year old I was the judge says okay we're going on a break now the trial fast forward through lunch and we're back takapina asked the judge he says your honor there's something we need to speak with you about can we have a sidebar the judge says uh jurors as you were walking in the lawyers told me we need to have a discussion so please bear with us and we'll see you outside judge Kaplan says okay proceed sidebar's over so they worked out whatever it was Carol's lawyer Ferreira now continues he says okay Miss Leeds what is this says well that's the Trump rally at which he made his comments since I got to ask that question over again don't recognize this CD that I'm holding up here she says yeah it has my initials on it exhibit submitted on the screen on C-Span they have got Trump saying they come up with people who say I was with Donald Trump on an airplane in 1980 believe me she would not be my first choice is what Trump said do you think that was a she says I'm I was sure it was me do you consider yourself a political activist Jessica she says yes I do I vote in every election whether I know anything or not I vote perfect uneducated voter are you in a party Jessica yes I am a Democrat I contributed to Raphael Warnock and Stacy Abrams and whoever ran against Susan Collins have you spoken with Miss Carroll yeah She interviewed me by Zoom she's an acquaintance I would say not a friend did you ever speak with Donald Trump again in 1981 at a fundraiser I had a nice dress Trump and Ivana who was pregnant back then they came up to me Trump said I remember you you're that see from the airplane she said it was like cold water over me he walked away and I went home nothing further from the plaintiff so then the judge says all right takapina cross-examination from you he says all right Jessica so you didn't tell anyone for uh for a year but you're political so you knew Donald Trump was talking about running but you didn't say anything correct and then when he ran you talked about it to your book club is that true yeah and during the debate you said what an a-hole and you jumped up and down is that true at your Debate Club you did an interview with the New York Times and you said you hoped your story would influence the election against Trump is that what you've said in an interview she says correct and you also did an interview with NPR and with ADI Cornish right yeah and you did an interview with democracy now somebody called Amy Goodwin or Goodman yeah and you don't want Donald Trump to regain the presidency right I don't now can you give us an exact date when this happened to you no I can't you don't remember where you were flying from no I do not it's your story a man introduced himself to you as being Donald Trump yeah he was some random guy on a plane and you told Anderson Cooper the tussle lasted 15 minutes yeah your story is at a passenger saw it too yeah and when you say he touched your knee objection sustained the only the only word knee is coming from you takapina he says okay I'm not going to say the word Nate he says okay when he touched up your skirt you didn't say anything when you got back to your seat no and you'd never heard of him of Donald Trump but you'd remember the name for all those years you didn't know about him before but then after the attack you discovered who he was back in 1979 air 8 or whenever it was yeah and At the Gala you say Donald Trump next to his wife said the c word he said the c word right next to his wife right in front of you is that right yeah you say Donald Trump remembered you too despite having shorter hair and different clothes objection sustained you did an interview with democracy now did you did you she says yeah I went to their Studio you said that you remember the details of this yeah and you told Anderson Cooper specifically that it was 1979 didn't you yes and you told Miss Carroll though a different date you said it was either 1980 or 1979 is that true yes and you can't name one single witness here to corroborate your story right no the judge interferes in his cross-examination and says let's move on I have not he's allowed to do his cross-examination the judge Cuts him off let's move on this is good cross-examination and he cuts him off again this is taking place in front of the jury right in front of the jury they're watching this judge Lampoon and essentially condemn takapina's testimony are you finished yet these questions are terrible they're irrelevant they don't matter let's move on gosh these are the most consequential questions because they shatter Jessica's story no date no Witnesses didn't even know Trump then suddenly it's Trump doesn't know where she was flying to didn't tell anybody about it so takapina gets yelled at by the judge stop your questioning you're making our case look more ridiculous so he says all right nothing further your honor so takapina says uh I'm done here fine all right if I can't ask my questions I might as well just sit down all right so then the plaintiff comes back out for redirect they're going to rehabilitate her now they say all right Jessica you remember every detail of this she says yes I do why not tell your bosses my bosses would just say that's too bad how about lunch and it was a good job it was a good job even though your bosses don't care you got assaulted on an airplane hmm so why did you call it a pass a pass it's easier to think of it that way to be clear do you now consider it a pass objection overruled of course no it was not a pass do you think you brought on what he did no I don't know what he perceived I think he was just bored nothing further any recross no next Witness so that is the second accuser who has now been brought out saying that Donald Trump did something very similar to her even though she did something very similar to e Gene Carroll didn't document this report it to police didn't tell any friends about it nothing doesn't remember when it happened or where she was going has a strong animus against Donald Trump and then now pops up out of the woodwork to go and support this new claim [Music]