whispers first sent over medalists back in 1922 and only the second sent over medal presented him that the WAFL was Harold boy now Harold you one of three who made up what has been described as the greatest halfback lines in WAFL history they being Gosnell Craig and yourself and your once sent over middle from the 1920s you must have great memories of this yes as you say I won medal in 1922 and Jimmy Gosnell won a medal in 24 and Jimmy Craig in 1927 yes right and there was of course the big Premiership drought from 1906 to 1931 inclusive and you coached in 1929 1930 what do you remember about those years as coach and also the Jackie's well in throughout years was we were very very weak in a team and that we used to get beaten or more or less over 20 goals every week before we built the side up in later years and but what was the by going right brought over that dread it was up to a little bit there's a lot of youngsters in the side a lot of building up and a and of course you're a part of that media that you attached yes we had old on Marinko young dong marie goats father he played with thousand and young dong played with West Perth and then he went over to we Spurs and played with him but held on Monaco was a very good rut man and then Jack McDermott came in we call him fat McDermott he was rather solid in seven eeeh he came in to the side and then there was players like Johnny Leonard and Topsy Hill in his later years and that and the sender half forward Frank Hopkins Ted Fleming and Johnny Lockridge they were all great footballers you see so the team start to build up into a premiership possibility yes well that brings me to the fact that in 1932 Jack Cashman Victorian came along and into that vat with a premiership and I guess because you're a Costa spriter that you must have prepared a lot of youngsters and applies to who applied a great part in winning that Premiership yes we did we put in a lot of work for than that under we receive the benefit of that then when Jack Cashman took over we brought Jack Cashman from Fitzroy from Victoria over here in that and he was a big toruk man and that and very hard and very forceful on the ground and he was a decided asset apart from his knowledge in coaching and that and well I seen one day there on this palette of lovel where we had little Billy Rinaldi he was one the smallest football that has ever played in the game he was playing with us and he was only about this high and he's particularly good and he was over there on the half forward line and he got out of the scrum this gun was there and he was like a little looser than that around at us come with the ball and Jack Cashman seen a big chap that was chasing him and he just accidentally on purpose just mount into him and knocked him to the ground and Billy went on kick to go yeah he was another great little Rover forest you