and we brought it up didn't we on yesterday's show the little man so in case you haven't seen the little man or don't know what we were talking about when it came to the little man there he is the little man which surely proves Stevie's point doesn't it sh well that little man yes no I I I think the ball hits way below where that green is yeah you're right frine no not at all that that the ball hits the ball the ball hits and if if we assume that the ball catches a fair segment of the arm you're taking that quite low you're assuming I that's for me okay so now here's my thing I I will always go with as we used to the shoulder muscle because to See's point they say they say the sleeve I could wear any length sleeve I want and and claim and claim oh well it's not the sleeve so let's just go with oldfashioned the shoulder muscle the ball's head below that the ball head below that but that's not what they said that's not what the we man's about that's not what the we man but again if you if you look at if you look at that if you look at the we man for me the green is about where the shoulder muscle is and I I think I think it hits below that if we were having an argument about that it hit his skin then that would be different right but that doesn't sound like what you're saying I'm saying I am seeing I always I continue to go by as we did a long time ago the where this shoulder muscle where this shoulder muscle they're not going by them right but but then but then here's here's my point about well it's the sleeve you can have different length sleeves different manufacturers could have different length sleeves you could put the patch at different points of the sleeve so it becomes it becomes very subjective so let's just go with Anatomy let let me just say something right and and I don't know 100 % okay but I'm pretty certain that a short sleeve has a regulation attached to it with the fa they don't just you don't just make stuff and I think we'll make sleeve down to here down here or what a regulation and and come out and let's assume let's assume let's assume it's regulation right I am 6'4 when an extra large Shir my teammate is 6 foot when an extra large shirt who where does the sleeve go the sleeve doesn't go to the same point with each of us the sleeve goes lower down because my arms are longer Frank where do you stand on this yeah I stand I stand in between where uh the drawing that we see the drawing the the sleeve is too short so it doesn't really explain where the sleeve goes and I agree with with Shaka that the length of the the the the sleeve can can be different according to your height and that's going to be a tricky situation and I agree with Shaka that you could go to to back to the anatomy which will be much better uh to to find out if there is a handball or not but in that case should have been sent to the monitor as far as I'm aware but it seems like V are making the rules up every week so next week they'll be sent to the Monitor and they'll make a decision and agree with the v as they always do I think for me I mean I think it should have been a goal I think it was you know above the t-shirt line as you say but I always thought that when a referee disallowed a goal it had to be certain that an offense had been committed there's no way that the referee or the V could be absolutely certain that offenseive been committed by the by the Bournemouth player so in that instance you have to give the goal you don't give a goal you don't rule a goal if you think there might have been in offense so on that basic principle it should have been a goal not withstanding the fact that it hit him here so that is the above the t-shirt line so I don't know I mean it'll be a different one next week won't it but it was a bad decision I think new Bournemouth are very very unlucky even Eddie H said that you know they got away with it and the players weren't complaining so I think that tells you everything that that Newcastle felt they got away with one uh mark thank you very much busy week for Mark of course between now and the end of the transfer windows [Music]