THAT'S ARIZONA THERE, APACHE JUNCTION. THANKFULLY THEY ALL LIVED. >> DO YOU BELIEVE AMERICANS ARE BETTER OFF THAN THEY WERE FOUR YEARS AGO? >> SO, I WAS RAISED AS A MIDDLE CLASS KID AND I AM ACTUALLY THE ONLY PERSON ON THIS STAGE WHO HAS A PLAN THAT IS ABOUT LIFTING UP THE MIDDLE CLASS AND WORKING PEOPLE OF AMERICA. I BELIEVE IN THE AMBITION, THE ASPIRATIONS, THE DREAMS OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. AND THAT IS WHY I IMAGINE AND HAVE ACTUALLY A PLAN TO BUILD WHAT I CALL AN OPPORTUNITY ECONOMY. >> Dana: VICE PRESIDENT KAMALA HARRIS DODGING A QUESTION RIGHT OUT OF THE GATE ON TUESDAY. HER PERFORMANCE GARNERED PRAISE FROM PUNDITS. "THE NEW YORK TIMES" REPORTING UNDECIDED VOTERS WEREN'T TOTALLY SOLD. I WANT TO BRING IN A PRINCIPLE AND FORMER ADVISOR TO HILLARY CLINTON. DID YOU QUESTION, PHILIPPE, ARE YOU BETTER OFF THAN YOU WERE FOUR YEARS AGO? >> WE ALL LIVED IT. YOU DON'T HAVE TO PRACTICE IT. >> Dana: DID YOU PRACTICE THE QUESTION? WAS SHE PREPARED TO ANSWER IT? >> CLEARLY SHE WAS. >> Dana: THAT WAS AN ANSWER? >> SHE KNEW FOUR YEARS AGO. THE PROBLEM HERE IS DONALD TRUMP LIKES TO ACT LIKE HE WASN'T PRESENT FOR FOUR YEARS LIKE HE DOESN'T HAVE A RECORD. AND IT WAS IMPORTANT TO THE VICE PRESIDENT TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE REMEMBERED THAT FOUR YEARS AGO WE WERE ALL HUNKERED DOWN IN OUR HOMES WEARING MASKS WHENEVER WE LEFT AND PEOPLE WERE OUT OF JOBS, INFLATION WAS SKY HIGH. THAT'S THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER. THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE NEED TO BE REMINDED AND WHAT DONALD TRUMP MAKES VERY TOUGH FOR PEOPLE TO REMEMBER BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY HE DOESN'T WANT THEM TO REMEMBER AND THAT'S WHAT THE VICE PRESIDENT, WHO, YOU KNOW, LOOKED AWFULLY PRESIDENTIAL ON TUESDAY NIGHT DID. >> Dana: PHILIPPE, YOU ARE NOT THE FIRST BIDEN-HARRIS, NOW HARRIS SURROGATE TO SAY WELL, FOUR YEARS AGO WE WERE HUNKERED DOWN IN OUR HOMES AS IF THE PANDEMIC WAS TRUMP'S FAULT. BIDEN-HARRIS ASKED SCHOOLS TO BE CLOSED. CAN YOU SAY THAT WITH A STRAIGHT FACE? THE ECONOMY WAS GOING GREAT BEFORE COVID. COVID WAS NOT TRUMP'S FAULT. >> I HAVE A STRAIGHT FACE RIGHT NOW. WHAT COVID WAS WAS A ONCE IN A CENTURY PANDEMIC. DONALD TRUMP SAID IT IS NOT A BIG DEAL AND WILL GO AWAY, WHICH WAS A LIE AND HE KNEW IT WAS A LIE. TELLING PEOPLE THAT THEY DIDN'T REALLY HAVE TO WEAR MASKS. HE NEVER SET AN EXAMPLE OF WEARING MASKS. TELLING PEOPLE TO PUT HORSE POISON THAT IS USED TO GET WORMS OUT OF COWS INTO THEIR BLOODSTREAM AND LOOK, HE PROLONGED IT. IT IS AS SIMPLE AS THAT. HE PROLONGED IT. PRESIDENT BIDEN >> Dana: WE ARE GO PING DOWN A RABBIT HOLE. TRYING TO SUGGEST THAT FOUR YEARS AGO THE BIDEN-HARRIS ADMINISTRATION WOULD HAVE DONE EVERYTHING IN COVID DIFFERENTLY IS VERY -- IS REALLY HARD TO TAKE. LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT THIS. >> LOOK AT WHAT THEY DID AS SOON AS THEY CAME. HANDLED COVID DIFFERENTLY. >> Dana: IN FACT THEY PASSED THE INFLATION REDUCTION ACT THAT RAISED INFLATION. >> BECAUSE DONALD TRUMP DID NOT DO ANYTHING TO KEEP THINGS -- IF HE HAD TOLD PEOPLE TO WEAR MASKS HE PROBABLY WOULD BE PRESIDENT TO THIS DAY. THAT'S THE BOTTOM LINE HERE. COVID WAS THE ULTIMATE FACT CHECKER FOR DONALD TRUMP. IT WAS THE FIRST TIME HE COULD NOT LIE HIMSELF OUT OF A SITUATION. >> Dana: WE CAN HAVE A FIGHT ABOUT MASKS ANOTHER DAY, PHILIPPE. ASK I ASK YOU ABOUT GOING FORWARD. IT IS FASCINATING YOU HAVE HAD THIS FRONT SEAT IN SO MANY DEBATES IN HELPING CANDIDATES GET READY. HILLARY CLINTON, NOW KAMALA HARRIS. THAT TOOK AN INCREDIBLE HONOR. SHE HAS GOTTEN A LOT OF PRAISE FOR A REALLY GOOD DEBATE. SHE DIDN'T COLLAPSE. SHE WAS QUITE A STRONG COMPETITOR. "THE NEW YORK TIMES" SAID THAT ABOUT THE OUTCOME. VOTERS SAID THE VICE PRESIDENT TALKED ABOUT SWEEPING VISION TO FIX THE COUNTRY'S MOST STUBBORN PROBLEMS BUT WANTED THE FINE PRINT. SO IF SHE MISSED AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET TO THOSE VOTERS THEN, IS THERE A NEW STRATEGY? ONE, FOR EXAMPLE, MORE MEDIA INTERVIEWS, MORE TOWN HALLS OR ANOTHER DEBATE? I KNOW YOU SAID YOU WANT ANOTHER DEBATE. >> YEAH, LEFT TO KAMALA HARRIS SHE WOULD BE OUT THERE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. YOU WEREN'T EVEN 3/FOUR OF THE WAY THROUGH A DEBATE SAYING LET'S DO ANOTHER ONE AND DONALD TRUMP SAYING NO. KAMALA HARRIS, DESPITE BEING THE VICE PRESIDENT FOR 3 1/2 YEARS IS STILL A QUANTITY THAT'S NOT ENTIRELY KNOWN. NOT THAT ODD FOR THE POSITION. SHE WANTS PEOPLE TO KNOW THAT STARTED WITH HER CONVENTION SPEECH THAT TOOK PLACE TUESDAY NIGHT. IT WILL TAKE A LOT OF FORM FROM HERE ON OUT. WHAT WE SAW TUESDAY NIGHT WAS DONALD TRUMP TRYING TO PREVENT THAT. THIS IS NOT TWO PEOPLE WHO SAY WELL, ON THE ONE HAND I WANT TO DO THIS AND ON THE OTHER HAND HE WANTS TO DO THAT. THIS IS SOMEONE WHO WAS -- TWO PEOPLE IN A JOB INTERVIEW, ONE OF THEM WAS ANSWERING THE QUESTIONS. THE OTHER ONE HAD A CHAIN SAW TRYING TO PREVENT ANYONE FROM HEARING WHAT SHE SAID. I HAVE DONE THIS NOW TWICE NINE YEARS APART. ANYONE WHO WATCHES THE SAME WAY PEOPLE WHO WATCH JOE BIDEN MADE THIS COMMENT DONALD TRUMP IS NOT THE SAME MAN. HE JUST ISN'T. HIS LANGUAGE IS DECOMPENSATING. I HAD A REALLY HARD TIME. I KNOW PEOPLE WILL THINK THAT'S PARTISAN AND MEAN. BUT ANYONE WHO WATCHES HIM. THE CHILDCARE INTERVIEW HE GAVE LAST WEEK WAS JUST A WORD SALAD. I'M SORRY. >> Dana: FELIPE, DUE WANT TO GO DOWN THE WORD SALAD BUFFET LINE HERE? >> YES, I DO. >> Dana: YOU DO? HOW MUCH TIME DO WE HAVE? >> SOMEONE WHO COULD ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS WITHOUT THE TELEPROMPTER. I'VE WATCHED EVERY RALLY AND SPEECH PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS GIVEN OVER THE LAST SIX MONTHS. THAT GUY USES A TELEPROMPTER AND A BIG DIFFERENCE WHEN HE DOES AND DOESN'T. HE SHOULD USE IT MORE THAN HE DOES. SOMETHING LIKE CHILDCARE IS IMPORTANT. >> Dana: LET ME ASK YOU WILL YOU PLAY J.D. VANCE IN THE UPCOMING PREP? YOU ARE? >> I WILL NOT. I WAS ORIGINALLY SLATED TO AND WHEN THERE WAS THE SWITCH, I GOT ELEVATED, YOU KNOW, I HAD LOOKED AT HIM. HE IS A VERY, VERY GOOD DEBATER. HE HAD TWO DEBATES IN OHIO IN HIS RACE. HE IS SOLID. I THINK IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE HIS BEST, YOU KNOW, OPPORTUNITY SO FAR. >> Dana: WE'LL HAVE MORE TIM