>> AGAIN, THAT COMING TO US FROM THE U.S. SUN. WE'VE REACHED OUT TO KATE GOSSELIN FOR STATEMENT, BUT WE HAVE NOT HEARD BACK. COLIN MADE SIMILAR BUT MUCH LESS DRAMATIC CLAIMS LAST YEAR CALLING HIS MOTHER ABUSES AND ALLEGING SHE HAD INSTITUTIONALIZED TO KEEP HIM QUIET. AT THAT TIME. KATE DID POST A STATEMENT TO INSTAGRAM AND I'LL READ IT TO YOU. IN PART, IT SAYS MY SON, COLLIN, WHOM I LOVE WITH ALL MY HEART HAS RECEIVED MULTIPLE PSYCHIATRIC DIAGNOSES OVER THE YEARS FOR THE SAFETY OF MYSELF, HIS BROTHERS AND SISTERS AND FOR HIS OWN WELL-BEING. HE WAS PLACED IN A FACILITY FOLLOWING YEARS OF OUT PATIENT TREATMENT, WHICH PROVED INSUFFICIENT FOR HIS NEEDS. COLLINS DISTORTED PERCEPTION OF REALITY IS ONE OF THE MANY ISSUES THAT HE HAS ALWAYS STRUGGLED WITH. FOR THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS. THIS FAMILY HAS BEEN DIVIDED INTO 2 CAMPS THAT REPORTEDLY DO NOT COMMUNICATE WITH EACH OTHER. THERE'S JOHN AND COLIN AND DESIST EARNING HANNAH WHO ALL SAY THAT THE ABUSE HAPPENED. AND THEN THERE'S KATE AND HER CAMP. WITH THE 6 SIBLINGS. I WANT TO BRING IN ROB SHOOTER. HE IS THE HOST OF THE NAUGHTY BUT NICE PODCAST AND HE HAS MET BOTH JON AND KATE. SO, ROB, ARE YOU SURPRISED WITH WHAT COLIN IS SAYING? >> I'M NOT >> SHOCKED BY THIS AND I SHOULD BE ALLEGATIONS ARE REALLY UGLY, ASHLEY. AND SO THE DETAILS THAT A SHOCKING TO ANY HUMAN BEING, THE HOUSE BEING ROOM US. THERE'S BEEN SPECULATION HAS BEEN REPORTING FOR A LONG TIME THAT THIS FAMILY WAS NOT WHAT THEY BELIEVED. ALL WANTED US TO BELIEVE WHO THEY ARE. AND SO NOW I THINK THE STORY'S GOING TO BE COMING OUT MORE LAW INSIDE IS A TELLING ME THE CALLING FEELS LIKE HE CAN BACK UP THESE STORIES. HE HAS E-MAILS HE HAS LEFT TO HE HAS TEXT. AND SO I THINK WE'RE GOING TO FIND OUT MORE AS THE DAYS GO ON. >> SO I'M CONFUSED BECAUSE I FEEL AS THOUGH THE CAMERAS WERE PRESENT IN THEIR LIVES AT ALL TIMES. SO WHEN WITH THIS ABUSE OF HAPPENED. >> YEAH, THIS IS THIS IS A REALLY GOOD QUESTION AND THAT THIS NOW HAVE IS A DECADE OLD. BUT THE CAMERAS BACK THEN WOULD NOT LIKE THE REALIY SHOWS THAT WE HAVE TODAY THAT A MUCH MORE CONDENSED AND HOW THEY SHOT THIS. SO OFTEN THE FAMILY WOULD SHOES. 10 EPISODES, 12 EPISODES AND THEN HAVE A WHOLE SUMMER OFF FOR THE CAMERAS NOT IN THE HOUSE. THIS IS REALLY THE START REALITY TV. WE HAD JESSICA SIMPSON. WE HAD CASE PLUS THE ALL BUT I THAT TOO. BUT THIS WAS LONG BEFORE THE KARDASHIANS. WILL THE HOUSE LIES?