ladies and gentlemen welcome to the number one professional wrestling Radio Show in Las Vegas this is the mark ho show The Mark H show going Bell to Bell with the best in professional wrestling news entertainment and lots of Sin City surprises from inside the squared circle now let's get to all the exciting pro wrestling and bring on the host here is Mark hul all right everybody and let's get back to it hour number two of the mark Ho Show very excited to have you with us it's the best in pro wrestling news entertainment top rated show live show on our exciting station here of Kon here in Las Vegas cuz you know why we're that damn good that's just how it works we're very thrilled to have you join us on Sunday morning know uh probably a lot of people didn't sleep well last night but you know we're going to try and bring a little happiness and levity to you by talking a little pro wrestling now we've already got coach Rosie for adree shows Josh Rosen bomb is on the board let's bring in my wrestling brother I love this guy to death he is amazing does tremendous work over at wrestlezone.com I cannot I I wish I could do a show with this guy every day he is just so much fun to have around let's get him in the fold here on the mark Hox show Matt Black we got what's up man how are you bud it's been a long week I guess it's the beginning of a new week so here we go again let's do it let's do it man very happy to see you so welcome yeah okay I guess I should have said something after that that's all right oh well oh I I you know what's funny I was I was telling mad to text I'll just say it you know last I I I had a little bit of a an upset belly last night I had a Burger King melt before I went to bed last night and uh that move will not be made again before a show that probably not a good idea I'm gonna say very bad decision on my part and uh yeah by the way welcome to Mark Cho in the chat box he follows you around Matt we certainly appreciate that he's a he's a good friend of mine I I appreciate his support yeah so so very exciting to have uh anybody in the chat box know we got a lot of people listening so come on in let's hear your comments about this now I decided to have a little fun I wanted to start off believing in somebody as I went off about a month ago about this guy our good friend Joe Henry Joe Henry who you know lost in that battle royal right away and you know it's just kind of getting beat up on TNA and now he's in the main event slam adversary and Main Eventing NXT and everything is looking up for our boy Joe Henry now I'm curious to see what they're actually going to do with the guy so Matt I'll start off with you what is the ceiling for Joe Henry at this point well I mean the ceiling is all depending on what company he's in I mean depending on how long his contract is with TNA obviously the ceiling is you know TNA World Champion which I think they should just go ahead and pull the trigger at slam adversary because You' already know my opinion opinions on the system it's not working the system is broken it's not enjoyable programming for TNA and they need to Pivot their programming as soon as humanly possible and if they can start that at slam adversary by getting the world title off moose and maybe the tag titles off Myers and and Edwards like I think that's just the best direction that company could go right now coach what do you think about Joe Henry how far should they take this or you know or are we talking of maybe it's a little bit of extra self-promotion and a little bit of a flash in the pan I disagree with that but is that a possibility are we all getting too excited about Joe Henry I'm a fan you know I'm a fan first I mean I love Joe Henry the song it's it's it's cool you know it's catchy I don't know how long it'll last but like Matt was saying jump on that rocket ship and go and then make the hardies the tag Champs why not I think that would be a good uh a good spin in Slam adversary so so so you guys are both ready to just blow this thing up at slam versary huh yeah for sure put put championships on your stars if if you want people to tune into your weekly show if you want people to buy TNA Plus for the millions of people who don't get access TV and can't watch your show on cable yes put championships on people that the fans care about and I'm not trying to be mean to the system they're all very good wrestlers but the gimmicks not working they're not over I would argue that some people would say that they have some go away heat on them just do something to make people care because the biggest all the all the eyeballs are on TNA right now because of their connection with NXT so you need to make that count and I feel like on their last little pay-per-view that they had on TNA plus I can't even remember what it was called I think it was no surrender like they dropped the ball it was not a good show Beyond Jeff Hardy returning at the end of it I was like man I wish I didn't even watch this so they they need to hit they need to hit a grand slam at slam adversary and they need to steer the ship properly headed into Bound for Glory these next few months are going to be extremely important for TNA and I hope they don't fumble the opportunity that's been handed to that's been handed to them right now yeah so Matt Matt Hardy and them that they're not working on a contract ex yes exactly and they're still Aver if you look at their advertising for uh November's event that's going to be hosted at russle Cade they're advertising the hardies but tomorrow Triple H could call and be like hey guys you want to come back and have another run and they're gone they're working on a perate basis you better make you better keep Matt and Jeff as happy as humanly possible or they could just up and leave like Stephanie valkor up and left cmll last week so and she was under contract yeah so that's even worse so the TNA needs to do right by their Stars right now in order to keep their stars do right by Joe Hendry so Joe Hendry second guest is immediately signing a WWE contract when his current one expires continue to do right by Jordan Grace because when her deals up in January I don't see a scenario that she's not straight over to WWE you can't can't afford to lose these talents right now Josh Alexander's as good as gone they they they did that shady tactic of uh extending his deal when they when he asked them not to if I'm Josh Alexander my mind's already made up I'm out the door with my Deal's up like you're about to lose a lot of great talent over the next year don't make it worse than it already is well let me ask you this Matt and I and I ask coach Rosie in the first hour while this deal with WWE and and sending Talent over there you know gets some promotion for TNA could this be something that they regret because you're kind of opening the door to getting your talent rated kind of like aw has done to New Japan you got to take the good with the bad and that's exactly what New Japan did because New Japan has not uh been nearly as strong as a promotion that they've been since we entered the the pandemic back in 2020 it kind of really crippled New Japan and that partnership with aw really helped New Japan rise back up into a a good per uh a good position within the wrestling industry so yeah they they lost Osprey they lost uh okata but it's not like when Russell Dynasty rolls around the day after Russell Kingdom next year that we're not GNA see willos spr and okata on that show like aw is I feel like aw is going out of their way to try to help their partner instead of hurt them where I feel WWE is kind of using TNA as a way to say hey we're working with other wrestling companies so we can never get sued for $20 million by mlw again we we we're we're we're good we're the good guys we're we're not doing anything wrong but secretly when they're when they're bringing in a Joe hener when they're bringing in Jordan Grace they are giving them the Royal Treatment in NXT and making them feel like they're Mega stars to the point where they're probably thinking man I can't wait to sign with these guys when my Deal's up because this place is so awesome so it's a it's a mixed bag I feel like TNA really needs the promotion that WWE is giv them right now but they need to make they need to make the most out of the promotion that they're being given and they need to make the right creative decisions to help bring their company back up to where it was when Scott deore was running things last year coach you look like you had something you wanted to say there no it's just I'm getting reaffirmed by Matt you know he's uh you know you are a very smart intelligent person when it comes to wrestling but my takes match with you so I feel like uh you know we're we're we're on the same page uh so that's why I was saying you know I think it's it's good and uh I was just excited that we're on the same level yeah there you go see I bring the smart people on Mark ho show that's what I do that some some other comments in the chat box by the way we got the let's see well gamer bear uh you know said hope you're doing good Mark uh J but also Hoke I guess okay that's cute uh the system isn't even broken it's crippled um March also saying CML contract equals toilet paper and gamer bear saying that's actually what it's printed on yikes oh no wow so Matt your friends yikes they're they're laying it in therey I didn't say it they did they did I didn't say it they did oh my God yeah but but this will be a very interesting card slam adversary coming up so and in case you everybody out there doesn't know what the card is um it's uh the militia that's alash Edwards and Masha slamovich uh the TNA Knockouts Tag Team Champions are taking on Spitfire uh AJ Francis who by the way I think is doing some pretty good work uh is the TNA digital media Champion he's defending against PCO uh uh Mustafa Ali is defending against Mike Bailey speedball um Jordan Grace is defending against Ash by elegance and then you've got that six-way elimination match for the TNA World Championship which is Moose defending against Josh Alexander Steve Macklin Nick nouth Frankie Kazarian and Joe Hendry so that you I think it's going to be a fun match but p on paper it looks like it's a very good show and I'd be willing to bet dollars the donuts that that the hardies against Edwards and uh Meyers will be end up being added to that as well because I'm sure the finish on Thursday is going to be something fishier Shady or whatever which is going to lead to a rematch at the pay-per-view so like the card's going to be stacked but they need to deliver on what it looks like on paper make the right creative decisions for your fans to build your company mov forward yeah so we'll see we'll see what they do with Joe Henry I'm uh I'm intrigued as you know I've been screaming to the Heavens to push Joe Henry so we'll see if he walks out of there with the title or not but I don't know yeah we're all kind of like oh you should but will they it'll be there's a couple people in there they could give the title too and moose shouldn't be one of them who who else would you could you go with there mat now you said that well you can't go wrong with Josh Alexander right like he's he's been a he's been a backbone for that company and heaven forbid if you try to make him happy um six months before his his deal permanently expires it said certainly couldn't hurt um who else is what about Nick nth if if he's committed longterm neem Nemo is also a great idea like I thought they should have given him the title months ago I thought they should have put the tag titles on him a few weeks ago yeah so I mean at this point now Now's the Time if you're not if you're not gonna strap up Henry strap up nth yeah I I was I was really surprised when it was here in Las Vegas and they didn't do it so I guess I guess we'll find out so should be entertaining uh Now Matt uh you know we also talked a little bit about what happened on Dynamite this week with the two Owen Hart winners and it got everybody talking your thoughts on what happened with both of those finals because it has created some very interesting possibilities coming up these are going to be some fun matches at aew Allin with swerve and Brian Danielson and Mariah May taking on Tony storm these should be some pretty solid uh main event matches for Tony at Wembley yeah I I think I think allin's going to be ridiculous ously stacked I think aw's hitting their stride at the right time this summer and I think they're going to carry that momentum all the way into that pay-per-view which essentially at this point is their WrestleMania and I think it's going to feel like one M big time this year um I predicted both Owen har tournament winners so I was not surprised by uh either outcome I was surprised that they immediately pulled the trigger on the Mariah May heel turn I thought they were going to let that simmer for a couple more weeks um and do it before all in but to do it immediately after the match in the visual of the blood coming down Tony's head as she was being hammered by the shoe that was that was money man as as they said in the industry back in the day red equals green and that was a money angle at the end of dynamite on Wednesday night yeah this is going to be uh I think I think all in's going to be awesome and you know with so many people getting back from the injured l boy the one person I just wish was back right now was Adam Copeland is so sad that he's going to miss this card you know but but otherwise this is going to be loaded and and I can't wait to see what they do with mjf I am really curious to see who the actual opponent is g to be for mjf when they get to I think it's gonna I think it's gonna be Osprey you think so I I think I think Tony's doing the exact same thing that he did last year with last year's all in if you recall there was an aw world championship match which opened aw Dynamite last summer between Adam Cole and mjf I was there I was in the front row was in DC they went to the time limit draw and they eventually rematched all you know a couple months later at all in they've also said that this International Championship match between osr and mjf is opening Dynamite on Wednesday night so I'm predicting a time limit draw and I'm predicting that they will rematch for that championship at all in and I think Daniel Garcia will return it all in and cost mjf the match H interesting thought as a definite possibility well I'll tell you we got to get a break in guys but I wanted you know we talked about aw getting their momentum back and I wanted to talk a little bit more about something deeper with aew and their impact on the industry because so many people are you know like to bang on aew it's it's a very interesting conversation there's a lot of haters out there but you know I I put up a tweet this week about you know what aew has done for professional wrestling and I want to get a little bit into that so we're going to hit that topic when we return here on the mark Ho Show so stick around everybody we've got coach Rosie from adree shows Josh rosenbom and Matt Black from wrestlezone.com he is the king and Overlord super editor over there so stick around everybody we'll be right back on the mark Ho Show whole lot more we'll be right back 1015 FM Kon this is the Mark H show The Mark H show here again your host Mark H and we're back in hour number two of the Mark H show here on Kon 1015 FM the talk of Las Vegas and also on that Odyssey app audacy download it now or you know little children will come screaming at you all through the streets it will be tragic you don't want that to happen and of course we are streaming on YouTube Facebook and X so wherever you are but subscribe golly G whiz that would make my Sunday I would appreciate it and of course we've got coach Rosie Josh Rosen bond from adree shows and Matt Black from of course wrestlezone.com just having a blast talk in pro wrestling here on Kon now and this was something that I was thinking about uh a couple of days ago and I was curious to hear your thoughts because we have still some interesting tribalism in pro wrestling guys and it kind of bothers me a little bit because I I can't understand why people some people hate aew so much because they have had such an incredible impact on the industry and it made everybody step their game up so much in every aspect of it the performers have had to do better the promotions have had to do better even you know from WWE down to the industries because I remember when I first started doing this show WWE was on complete Coast mode and they have really had to have changed over the past few years what they were doing because now they had a legit competitor somebody that something else that people could watch and you know Triple H could say what he wanted but you know there were people that were starting to turn the dials a little bit and and people even in the media people had to do a better job and I aw really I think took the industry and made it better and you can say what you want about the promotion itself whether it's you know you like it or you don't but I think it need massive improvements to what has gone on in pro wrestling and I'm curious to hear your thoughts about that let me let me go to you first uh coach Rosie on that well I think it was The Perfect Storm unfortunately with uh covid you know we had a lot more time to watch wrestling and I think the new shiny toy was aew and I think that brought back a lot of fans that might have been on the periphery or might have been frustrated with WWE I mean the Thunderdome that didn't uh really resonate with a lot of people watching on television but you know the aw product was something shiny and new and I think it really propelled people back now with uh everything being open again you know it's kind of going back to the way it used to be but there's still that strong uh aew presence that is going to continue to not only push WWE but push TNA and push all the uh strong Independents to produce and make a good product it Matt what do you think because I mean you you've been in this industry for a long time so you what did you see a shift oh and there was an absolute shift when when aw came in they they made WWE step up their game because you're right WWE was on cruise control for a decade and a half once WCW and ECW went down they didn't care what they were doing as long as they were making their weekly product it didn't need to be the greatest thing of all time because they were the only game in town as far as they were concerned they weren't concerned about TNA or or New Japan or rent of Honor or anything like that but now there's a legitimate like number two competitor in the in the world of professional wrestling and WWE responded that's why the WWE product is as good as it is right now and as hot as it is is because of aw and you also need to keep in mind with without aw like aw has a roster I would say probably somewhere between 100 and 150 people like on their in in roster I'm not even talking about backstage employees in production and ring crew and and all those people they employ making a good living because this company exists there's no way WWE could hire all of those people that aw have employed and and utilize all of them and not just release 20 people every other month like aw is good for the industry and I don't understand anybody who who can't see that it is an alternative to WWE there's there's a I I don't understand the the the criticisms and the complaints from the old Talking Heads that want aw to be more like WWE they their complaints are this isn't L they're not doing it though awwe does it or WWE does it this way so why doesn't aw do it that way they're an alternative product and that's what's important about aw they're giving people the option if you don't like what WWE has for you here's aw but they're not forcing we're not as a wrestling fan you were not forced to watch anything 20 years ago if you wanted to watch wrestling you were watching you were essentially you had to watch WWE now there's wrestling on TV almost like every freaking day of the week you have a choice of what to watch don't hate watch what you don't enjoy watch what you love well you know and if you don't like a or you don't like WWE or you don't like TNA or ml W or NWA or any of the other wrestling companies out there just don't watch them don't talk about them don't hate watch don't shame people who enjoy the other companies just watch what you enjoy and promote what you enjoy like the the ongoing tribalism online absolutely blows my mind I love WWE I love aw like I'm just I'm a pro wrestling fan why can't we all be pro wrestling fans together because when I was growing up I was picked on relentlessly in school for being a wrestling fan and then Junior High in high school happened throughout the Attitude Era and all of a sudden I I was able to Coast through those years because wrestling was cool again during the Monday night Wars but I can only imagine like having a group of wrestling fans to go to when I was a kid to share my love for WWF and WCW and everything that was ongoing at that time now we have that you can go on social media and interact with wrestling fans all over the world but instead of just being united and enjoying professional wrestling people are at each other's throats because it has to be aw versus WWE it doesn't have to be anything just watch the pro wrestling you enjoy and that's all there is to it there you go Matt black round of applause Round of Applause for knowledge very beautiful that's our Sunday sermon for today we pass plate oh my God wrestle Zone and TI them there you go that was beautiful yeah sorry I'm I'm very passionate about the the tribalism and wrestling I can't stand it and anytime I can try to talk about it make people see things in a different way I am more than happy to do so yeah and you know and one thing that I think people forget sometimes too is the the opportunities that when aw came in that it has created for everybody because there's now hope for more performers too you have so many more Indie promotions that s that are succeeding and you know I you know here in Los Vegas we've got a a bunch of them and they now have so much more of a chance to get out there and do something as opposed to boy I I hope WWE takes a look at me and I'm that one in 5,000 you know you've got you've got so many chances now to get seen and you know these people that are out there busting their butts you know it was either you know you get on WWE or you know maybe hit TNA and that was it otherwise you're out they're grinding for you know $1100 maybe if you were lucky I was going to say if you're lucky yeah you know so this is this has been great for everybody and you know I just and like you said I just wish everybody would just enjoy like like you know I'm I'm not a big gcw guy you know I that's not my thing but there's a lot of people that love gcw you know they house they house a lot of great talent there too yeah there's so you know so enjoy what you like but man just stop ripping it all the time my God I mean there's some there's great performers you don't like it don't if you don't like it don't talk about it yeah like you you don't you don't see me on my timeline talking about things that I hate I just I don't I don't I don't discuss things that I hate I discuss things that I love and even when I'm critiquing it I'm critiquing it out of love like I'm not doing it to be a jerk you know or you know trying to be a contrarian you know and any you know a-hole or anything like that I I I'm really just trying I want to help make the product better right so I feel sometimes if I I know Tony KH reads everything I he I get liked he he likes he's lik plenty of my tweets throughout the years so I know he reads what I say so I feel like if I could say something and help benefit a product and make it better I'm going to say it and I'm not I'm not doing it to you know to cause a tribalistic war or anger or anything like I I I critique when it's needed and I praise when it's deserved and and I do that for for everything that I love if I go if I go and see Deadpool and Wolverine at the end of this month and it doesn't live up to my expectations I will go on social media afterwards and say man they dropped the ball with the movie I was looking forward to most all Year Matt FL I but I want to walk out of the movie theater going that was the greatest MCU experience I've had since endgame flout will watch it uh and and Coach to that end too you know I know that you know you work with Eric bishof a lot and and Eric catches Flack and he's he's very critical of aew but I don't get the impression that Eric does it because he hates aew Eric I feel like has a very unique perspective because he was there you know he there's very few people that can speak to running a wrestling promotion and having it on National Television other than him I mean it's it's a very unique spot that he was in so when he's banging on aew I don't I don't think that it's out of a place of hate or anything like that I think he wants to see it succeed too and you know I love a pro wrestling so you know I'm I'm curious to hear your thoughts about that because I know you you know you're around Eric a lot and I would agree with that um I I consider Eric similar to Matt he's got what he likes and he's passionate about it and not that he's trying to hurt one company or another but he's going to share his opinion from his heart and I I'm an aew guy so we do sometimes have some dialogue and uh figure out which way he thinks it's going to go and and he accepts people that disagree that's the beauty of wrestling creativity is subjective you know so if you don't like what he's saying listen to it maybe not but that doesn't mean it should change your opinion everyone's allowed to uh love what they love and some people like the style of aew some people don't a lot of time Eric comes from a production angle or a right lighting angle or a sound angle he just takes a look at wrestling different than other people doesn't make it wrong doesn't make it right it just makes it his opinion yeah it's I I I enjoy listening to him because of because of you know there there's very few people in the world that can offer that that place that he was in so it's you know I I always like to learn from people that have had that experience you know whether it's in broadcasting or doing other thing you know when I coached volleyball for 20 years you know when I had a chance to listen to an Olympic coach or a college coach or somebody like that or another High School coach that succeeded you know whether I agreed or disagree what they said getting those perspectives is important you know so you know like when I mean I hear people trash Eric all the time and yeah I don't agree with everything Eric says but you know I've never been there so I'm gonna I'm going to take what he says with you know some serious consideration and not just throw it in the garbage can by the way chat box lit up you guys uh got them going uh let's see uh Mark Cho said no screaming children please at me so I I got that uh let's see also said tribalists have no life got that gamer bear said a rising tide lifts all boats uh bionic scoop my good friend scoop got to give him that uh like what you want and watch what you want uh and he also said not just performers but production folks too absolutely lot of jobs there um Mark Jo said Matt Black testify there you go so and game be said oh my brother there you go so you got everybody fired up man nice job look I'm I'm I'm look I'm happy to get some people fired up especially people who love professional wrestling like like I said I I love what bionic scoop said like what you want and watch what you want but like don't you don't need to hate watch and you don't need to hate comment if you don't like aw don't watch aw don't comment about aw you don't like WWE don't watch WWE don't comment about WWE like just focus on what you enjoy and let the other stuff just live in its own existence it's not hurting you anything if anything it's benefitting your product the people who only like WWE aw is benefiting their product the people who only like aw WWE is benefiting their product it works both ways but if you don't like if you don't like one or the other just watch the other one and let the other one alone it's not that hard yeah it does yeah it does because when you when you see you know when WWE is succeeding you know obviously you know and and Tony sees maybe his ratings dip a little bit I mean will Osprey brought it up he said well I saw that ratings dip I was I was like well what are we you know I took that as a challenge and that's and that's actually what a person who is driven and wants to succeed does and when you know when ospry made those comments I said that's a guy I want to work with that's a guy that I want by my side who doesn't put his head down and say oh we had a bad week and oh things are terrible that's a guy that wants to say hey let's go let's go let's fix the problem and and you know that and I you know I got to interview will and I'll tell you what that guy I'd love to go to battle with that guy I would he is just a you know a guy that is just fired up and wants to win and you know he wants to take aw to a great place and you know it's it's a lot of fun I I love being around people like that look I'm I'm going to go on on a limb right now if they continue to utilize will oppr properly on on on screen in the media and in all aspects of aw he can be there John Cena in the next five years you just have to utilize him properly like they they have all the potential in the world there for him to be their showcase star when you think of aw and like 10 15 years from now people will be like they think of w Osprey just like people like today like earlier this week I saw a tweet from uh fight triller who do you think of when you think of TNA and I responded with always and forever with a gift of AJ Styles no matter how long that company is in existence what I think of TNA and I think of that logo the first person I think of is AJ Styles yeah if aew does things properly by Will Osprey 10 or 15 years down the line if somebody online asks that question I think the answer could be will ospre yeah and and mjf right there too and uh you know there's yeah there there's just so much talent there and you know if they they do it right you know and Dr Brit Baker's one too that I I think that she could be somebody that if they keep keep her if she stays healthy and keep her in the right place you know that's somebody that will be synonymous with that brand forever as long as they keep her there so and gamer bear said that was the right choice and by the way buying scoop said I asked one person to point uh point to the doll where Tony KH hurt your pride I love scoop scoop is so awesome all right hey we got to get another break in guys so we're gonna keep the discussion going having a great time I love just you know getting into the fun of being a pro wrestling fan and that's what we do here on the mar show so stick around we've got a whole lot more coming up as we get into our final segment with Matt black from wrestle Zone and Coach Rosie Josh Rosen bond from AdFree shows.com so stick around we got a whole lot more to wrap this thing up on the maroke show here on Kon we'll be right [Music] back 1015 FM Kon you're listening to the number one professional wrestling radio show in Vegas the Mark H show The Mark H show now here again is Mark H trying not to break the buttons on the board that's a bad thing station doesn't like that very much but welcome back to the mark Ho Show here on Kon the stuff you guys don't get to see actually yeah yeah you can't see that one that's good glad the bosses can't see it either anyway best pro wrestling news and entertainment having an awesome time here as we get ready to wrap the show up Matt Black from wrestle Zone coach Rosie Josh Rosen bond from AdFree shows.com very happy to have you gentlemen along for the ride just having an awesome time talking pro wrestling here on Kon uh now by the way I I neglected to mention congratulations to DIY for winning the smackdown tag team titles way to go of course they got a nice Jacob ftu sandwich this week that didn't look like a lot of fun but way to go DIY I I I forgot to mention it last week and almost forgot it this week too so way to go so nice win for DIY um Joe tesor is joining the announce team of course a great college football announcer are you guys excited about that coach I like him I don't know what he's going to bring to wrestling but uh he's good on holy moly too the mini golf show yeah you know he's he's funny I don't know what he can bring but I enjoy uh a change you know it might it might be signaling Michael Cole being ready to move aside you know if they're bringing in this guy yeah I mean he's apparently lifelong wrestling fan Matty you excited about Joe tesor coming in that that's exactly what I was going to say I I'm I I'm keeping an open mind and I'm trying to be optimistic because he's a lifelong wrestling fan but we've seen WWE bring in so many commentators over the years that are great elsewhere and completely floundering WWE um this one being a fan I hope will end up being successful I I don't know if I'm in the minority or not and I still don't understand the decision but I even with his lack of knowledge coming in I really thought Jimmy Smith did a great job on raw and I thought he went out of his way to study the industry and to know what he was talking about so I was very surprised when they let him go so if this is like if this is their next decision in terms of a replacement for when they had Jimmy Smith in there at least he's a lifetime lifetime fan he's got plenty of commentator commentary experience so finger fingers crossed he comes in and gels with Barrett and Graves and and and everything works out yeah I'm I'm excited I mean just you know I love his announcing style so long as he comes in and knows what he's saying I think we'll we'll be okay he'll certainly bring a little extra pep to the smackdown broadcast I'm I'm kind of thrilled about that um I didn't get to get either of your thoughts on everything that happened to Money in the Bank we've only got a few minutes so we got to keep it short but Matt I'll start with you just your overall thoughts on money in the bank and does this leave you excited for SummerSlam with everything that happened over there I'm going to say something that I haven't said in many years I liked the NX the NXT show that weekend better wow and that used to be the norm when Triple H was running in that the takeovers I'm like man every every weekend takeover I'll perform in the WWE main pay-per-view um I really did like I love that Tiffany Stratton won the money in the bank and that was probably my favorite thing from the show um but I thought I thought NXT outshined money in the bank wow interesting coach what did you think I I I was had the pleasure of being at a watch party in Time Square so that added a different Dynamic to money in the bank they really uh bring it but I I just thought it was a spot Fest the money in the bank there was some great spots um the whole ref thing I feel bad that uh Damian got hit but it kind of threw things off for me for the rest of it uh had me thinking what's going on is he hurt was this a botch who messed up but you know um it was good and it was entertaining but you're right Matt uh NXT that finished with Ethan paage re just fell that was classic just classic Ethan oh you stumbled into it yeah that was every match on NXT delivered and I honestly I can't remember the last time I could say that it it really felt like an old school takeover there were two matches that show I I didn't care at all about like uh the tag title match and the the women's North American Title Match I went in like I don't care about either of these and by the end of the match I'm like wow that was really freaking good and I I was just I was I was blown away impressed by what NXT brought to the table on Sunday yeah definitely was yeah he it was something else so yeah and Ethan Paige falling into a title haven't seen that play for a while but good for good for Ethan paig I think this is going to be a lot of fun to see what he does with the NXT Championship so yeah wild uh wild week but and and Matt I I'm going to ask you one more time real fast are you still not excited about Gunther and Damen priest no not at all not at all I think Gunther's gonna flatten him they're gonna try to make him look good but I think I I think the match is going to be 7525 Gunther and I think he's I think he's going to flatten him that's exactly why PRI said oh Rollins I'll give you a title I'll give you another title shot after SummerSlam it's a gentleman's agreement I said out loud in my living room yeah that's because you're not gonna have the title you know he's he's as good as D Ren General's New World Heavyweight Champion it's it's already written in the stars it's done fair enough yeah so how about you coach you with Matt on that yeah uh I definitely agree Gunther he's a chop guy for me I I Revel at his chops but he doesn't do much more for me he's a he he's a uh souped up Sheamus wow I'm I'm a little bigger on Gunther than that but all right no that's what I'm saying like he Sheamus 10.0 like Sheamus got down like uh Gunther man back in that was Sheamus's thing back in the day that boom the kick all that um Gunther is just way more advanced okay he's a God it is true all right so um I've got I've got about a minute and a half left so I want to make sure I give both of you a chance to plug what you've got going on Coach tell us a little bit about ad free shows um ad free shows well we'll be down in waterloop for the Hall of Fame this weekend uh coming up uh we're bringing a contingent of guys we're going to be supporting uh Tony Shani and other guys like AR and we're just going to be there and if if you want to give us a a checkout you know we have 83 weeks we have my world we have uh Jr show we have Bruce Pritchard show it's it's it's a good array of nostalgia and uh there's some big pods that are going to be announced pretty soon so if you love nostalgic wrestling if you love the old days give us a check out over at adrees shows.com and Matt you got wrestle zone of course I do uh we're just we're we're trying to be your One-Stop shop for all things wrestling news news rumors interviews editorials you know opinion pieces like if you want to know what's going on in the world of professional wrestling just check out wrestles Zone we've got you covered there you go so make sure you go to wrestlezone.com and check that out too guys I want to thank you so much what a fun show you know and it's nice to get to talk about get below the surface a little bit and just you know what's going on in pro wrestling and dig in a little bit and we had great discussion today so thank you both for being on I really do appreciate it it was cool and Matt I love the Elf Box uh I live in Phoenix uh rip the the little kid that played outside kick Brian yeah Brian died in Phoenix this week but uh yeah that that was Al Al was iconic way too many people died this past week yeah yeah yeah it was a tough one but hey you know what we can uh go back watch some wrestling forget about it and have a great time that's it yes but thank you gentlemen I do appreciate it Josh Rosen bomb coach Rosie and of course black you got Matt at uh raw F Showtime on Twitter as well and it's a real Coach Rosie for for Josh if you 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