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>>> A STAND-IN PLAYING DONALD TRUMP FOR KAMALA HARRIS DURING HER DEBATE PREP WAS AN EXPERT ON DONALD TRUMP'S DEBATE TACTICS, BORROWED YOU MIGHT SAY FROM HILLARY CLINTON. THE FORMER DEPUTY ASSISTANT SECRETARY OF STATE, FORMER SPOKESPERSON FOR HILLARY CLINTON, DRESSED UP AS TRUMP. HE PLAYED THE ROLE IN HILLARY CLINTON'S 2016 DEBATE PREP SEEN IN THIS VIDEO. TRUMP TRYING TO HUG CLINTON. AN EXAGGERATION OF THE WAY HE LOOMED BEHIND HER DURING ONE OF THE DEBATES. HE JOINS ME NOW. IT'S GREAT TO SEE YOU. >> YOU TOO. >> YOU DIDN'T KNOW KAMALA HARRIS. YOU KNEW HILLARY CLINTON LIKE A MEMBER OF THE FAMILY. YOU TRAVELED WITH HER TO 212 COUNTRIES I THINK. IT MUST BE 112. YOU TRAVELED ALL OVER THE WORLD. >> A LOT OF COUNTRIES. >> TALK TO ME ABOUT HOW YOU PREPPED TO DEAL WITH HER. WERE YOU AFRAID OF OFFENDING HER, BEING TOO TOUGH IN THE WAY YOU PLAYED TRUMP? >> NO. IT WORKED OUT WELL I NEVER MET HER. SHE HAD NEVER MET DONALD TRUMP. THE VICE PRESIDENT WHO I HAD NEVER MET TOOK PREP VERY SERIOUSLY. SHE'S THE REAL DEAL. YOU ARE NOT ALWAYS RUNNING AROUND YELLING AT THEM LIKE A CRAZY PERSON, ALTHOUGH OBVIOUSLY DONALD TRUMP OFTEN RUNS AROUND LIKE A CRAZY PERSON. IT'S MORE LIKE THE BALL MACHINE. A TENNIS PLAYER TRYING TO GET BETTER. THERE'S A TENNIS PRO IN THE ROOM. THEY WANT TO TEST HER FOREHAND. THAT'S WHAT I THROW AT HER. THEY WANT TO TEST HER BACKHAND, THAT'S WHAT I THROW AT HER. IT'S MORE A MATTER OF JUST GETTING SOMEONE USED TO WHAT THEY ARE LIKELY TO EXPERIENCE ON STAGE, WHICH WE HAVE ALL SEEN, WE WATCH, BUT WE SIT ON OUR COACH AND SAY, WHAT DID HE JUST SAY, OR WHAT IS WRONG WITH THAT GUY? THE PERSON ON STAGE, WHICH HILLARY CLINTON AND JOE BIDEN AND NOW KAMALA HARRIS UNDERSTAND, YOU HAVE TO RESPOND TO HIM. YOU HAVE TO KEEP IT TOGETHER AND NOT ABSOLUTELY CRACK UP BECAUSE WHAT YOU ARE SEEING IS RATHER MANIACAL. BUT YOU ARE TRYING TO DO TWO THINGS. YOU ARE TRYING TO TALK TO THE AUDIENCE WHO YOU WOULD LIKE TO HIRE YOU. IT'S A JOB INTERVIEW. THE OTHER PERSON WHO WANTS THE JOB IS SIX FEET TO YOUR RIGHT AND THEY ARE DOING EVERYTHING THEY CAN TO JUST ABSOLUTELY PREVENT ANYONE FROM HEARING YOU. THAT'S A VERY TOUGH SITUATION TO NAVIGATE. >> PHILIPPE, DID YOU COME UP WITH THE IDEA OF HER MOVING TOWARD HIM AND PUTTING OUT HER HAND AND TAKING COMMAND FROM THE FIRST MINUTE? >> I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT SHE'S BEEN TRAINING FOR FOR 59 YEARS, THE SAME WAY YOU AND I HAVE. A COMMON COURTESY WHEN YOU SEE SOMEONE, NOT TO MENTION WHEN YOU MEET SOMEONE, TO EXTEND YOUR HAND AND SHAKE THEIR HAND. IT IS ONLY IN THE AGE OF DONALD TRUMP WHERE IT HAS BECOME SOMETHING THAT IT IS STRANGE. YOU WOULD NEVER SAY, MY GOD, BARACK OBAMA AND MITT ROMNEY SHOOK HANDS OR GEORGE BUSH AND JOHN KERRY. IT HAS BEEN BECAUSE OF THIS PERSON AND HIS BEHAVIOR, IT WAS GOING BACK TO THE "ACCESS HOLLYWOOD" WEEKEND AND DEBATE WHERE HILLARY SAID, I'M NOT SHAKING THIS GUY'S HAND. THIS IS NOT OKAY. THIS IS NOT ON THE UP AND UP. THE VICE PRESIDENT, VERY HUGH -- HUMANELY AND NORMALLY SHOOK HIS HAND. THERE WAS AN OVERHEAD SHOT AND HE SCURRIED OFF. >> WE KIND OF AS DEBATE VETERANS, WE WERE WATCHING FOR A MOMENT WHERE SHE WOULD TRY TO TRIGGER HIM. HERE IS THE ONE I PICKED. TAKE A LOOK. >> I'M GOING TO DO SOMETHING REALLY UNUSUAL. I'M GOING TO INVITE YOU TO ATTEND ONE OF DONALD TRUMP'S RALLIES. IT'S A REALLY INTERESTING THING TO WATCH. YOU WILL SEE DURING THE COURSE OF HIS RALLIES, HE TALKS ABOUT FICTIONAL CHARACTERS LIKE HANNIBAL LECTER. WINDMILLS CAUSE CANCER. WHAT YOU WILL NOTICE IS THAT PEOPLE START LEAVING HIS RALLIES EARLY OUT OF EXHAUSTION AND BOREDOM. >> HE WENT OFF MESSAGE RIGHT AFTER THAT. >> WHAT IS HIS MESSAGE? HIS MESSAGE IS ANGER. IF HE HAD A MESSAGE, THEN HE COULD HAVE -- >> WAS THAT YOUR GAME PLAN? >> IT'S NOT A GAME PLAN. IT GOES BACK TO SOMEONE WATCHING HIM AND SAYING, COME ON, PAL. LET'S REMEMBER HOW THIS STARTED WAS THE VICE PRESIDENT SAYING, IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY ABOUT ME, SAY IT TO MY FACE. HE SAID NONE OF THAT. SHE VERY MUCH WANTED TO CALL HIM OUT. THE MAN LIES ALL THE TIME. HE LIED AT THE DEBATE SAYING THERE WERE THREE POLLS THAT SHOWED I WON, 96%, 86%, 200%. THIS IS ALL A MATTER OF TELLING HIM THAT PEOPLE KNOW THE TRUTH. THERE'S NOTHING THAT'S REQUIRING HIM TO RESPOND LIKE A TODDLER. HE COULD HAVE SAID, WELL, VICE PRESIDENT, YOU ARE WELCOME AT ANY MOMENT TO COME AND STAND ON STAGE WITH ME AND DEBATE IN FRONT OF MY RALLY. INSTEAD, HE GOES ON THIS DIATRIBE. IT'S ANOTHER THING TO MAYBE TEN MINUTES IN TO GET ANNOYED. BUT YOU TALK ABOUT 75 MINUTES IN AND HE IS STILL GETTING ANNOYED, BECAUSE HE HAS NOTHING TO SAY. TALKING -- HE WILL ATTACK HER ALL THE TIME ABOUT NEEDING A TELEPROMPTER AND NOT DOING INTERVIEWS. THAT GUY NEEDS MORE PRACTICE ON A TELEPROMPTER AND TALKING TO PEOPLE ASKING HIM HARD QUESTIONS, NOT WITH MATT GAETZ WHO ARE TELLING HIM, WAY TO GO. LASTLY, I WOULD SAY, AS YOU MENTIONED, I WOULDN'T SAY EXPERT, BUT I DID DO THIS EIGHT YEARS AGO. I HAVE AGED NINE YEARS OVER THAT TIME. THE AGING ISSUE WITH HIM IS VERY PRONOUNCED. I SPOKE TO BOB BAUER WHO PLAYED THE SAME ROLE FOR JOE BIDEN. HIS LANGUAGE HAS BECOME VERY PROBLEMATIC, VERY CHOPPY, LOSING TRACK OF HIS THOUGHTS. HE IS NOT USING -- HE SEEMS TO BE FORGETTING NAMES. THERE'S SOMETHING -- THERE'S A DECOMPENSATION GOING ON THERE. WHAT'S GOOD FOR THE GOOSE IS GOOD FOR THE GANDER IF WE SAY THAT ABOUT JOE BIDEN. WE ALL HAVE FRIENDS THAT HAVE LAPTOPS. WHY AREN'T YOU GETTING A NEW ONE? THAT ONE WAS BARELY GOOD WHEN YOU GOT IT. NOW THE BATTERY RUNS LOW REAL FAST. THE SCREEN IS CRACKED. IT'S REALLY HEAVY COMPARED TO LAPTOPS YOU CAN GET NOW. HE IS JUST A MALFUNCTIONING APPLIANCE. WE NEED TO BE HONEST ABOUT THAT. HE IS 78. JOE BIDEN WAS 78 WHEN HE WAS ELECTED. PEOPLE WANT TO WORRY ABOUT WHAT SOMEONE IS LIKE WHEN THEY ARE 80 OR 82, THAT'S A CONVERSATION WE SHOULD HAVE RIGHT NOW ABOUT DONALD TRUMP. THAT IS NOT A PERSON WHO IS