>> Kennedy: SHE TRIED TO DROP IT LIKE IT'S HOT BUT KAMALA WAS NOT THE ONLY ONE FEELING THE HEAT. HARRIS DEPLOYED HER SECURITY SNUGLY RUNNING MATE TIM WALZ -- EXTRA Zs FOR ALL THE SLEEP YOU GOT WATCHING IT. HE WAS BACK UP TO HER FIRST INTERVIEW. THEM AND A SODA GOVERNOR WAS FINALLY CONFRONTED OVER ACCUSATIONS OF STOLEN VALOR. WALZ BIZARRELY BLAMED HIS MILITARY FIBS ON BAD GRAMMAR APPEARED WATCH THE SPIRIT. >> IN THIS CASE, THIS WAS AFTER A SCHOOL SHOOTING, THE IDEAS OF CARRYING THESE WEAPONS OF WAR. MY WIFE, SHE TOLD ME GRAMMAR WASN'T CORRECT. OF IS NOT THIS IT'S AN ATTACK ON MY CHILDREN FOR SHOWING LOVE FOR ME OR AN ATTACK ON MY DOG. I WILL NOT DO THAT AND ONE THING I WILL NEVER DO IS MEAN AND OTHER MEMBERS IN ANY WAY, AND I NEVER HAVE. >> Kennedy: ALL RIGHT, JOEY, I DON'T REMEMBER THE ATTACKS ON HIS CHILDREN FOR LOVING HIM OR THE ATTACKS ON HIS DOG. BUT I WOULD COME AS A COMBAT VETERAN, PLEASE SET THE RECORD STRAIGHT. BECAUSE WHAT IS THE BEST WAY TO VIEW HOW HE HAS TALKED ABOUT HIS MILITARY CAREER. HIS ACTUAL TIME IN SERVICE COME HE HONORABLY SERVED IN THE NATIONAL GUARD, AND SOME OF THE EXAGGERATIONS HE HAS MAY BE MADE. >> Joey: I'LL BE NICE. I WANT TO BE AS NICE AS I CAN BE ABOUT THIS AND SAY HE IS A DAMN LIAR AND A COWARD. [LAUGHTER] AND LET ME EXPLAIN WHY. IT IS NOT BECAUSE HE IS RUNNING FOR VICE PRESIDENT ON THE DEMOCRATIC TICKET. THERE ARE REPUBLICANS THAT ARE NO LONGER IN CONGRESS I WOULD SAY THAT ABOUT, TOO, IN HOUSE ADAM KINZINGER USED TO LOVE TO HANG OUT WITH. WITH THAT BEING SAID, THE PROBLEM WITH HIM IS THAT HE USED -- HE SAID IN THAT CLIP, DENIGRATE OR BELITTLE ANYBODY'S SERVICE. HE BELITTLED EVERYONE THAT DIDN'T GO TO COMBAT PEER HE BELITTLED THEIR SERVICE WHEN HE DECIDED HE COULDN'T HAVE A POLITICAL CAREER WITHOUT LYING ABOUT GOING TO COMBAT. HE DECIDED HIS 24 YEARS IN THE NATIONAL GUARD WAS NOT ENOUGH. INSTEAD HE HAD TO SIT ON THE HOUSE VETERAN AFFAIRS COMMITTEE, I PRESUME IS CHAIRMAN COME I DON'T KNOW WHEN IT HAPPENED, I WAS A JUNIOR MEMBER, LOOK AT GOLD STAR FAMILIES AND SAT THERE AND SAID, WHEN WE CAME BACK FROM WAR, WE DIDN'T HAVE THE RESOURCES OR THE MENTAL HEALTH SUPPORT WE NEEDED. HIS WAR WAS FOUGHT IN SOUTHERN ITALY. I'M SORRY BUT BETWEEN IRAQ AND AFGHANISTAN, SEND ME TO ITALY. I DON'T NEED MENTAL HEALTH WHEN I GET BACK FROM ITALY. MAY BE, BUT I DON'T THINK. THIS IDEA THAT HE SAID, THE WEAPONS WE CARRIED IN WAR, THAT IS ONE OF THOSE SLIPS -- IT IS ONE LITTLE SLIP COME IT'S NOT BAD GRAMMAR. I'M FROM GEORGIA, I CAN GIVE YOU ALL KINDS OF BAD GRAMMAR REAL QUICK IF YOU WANT ME TO. WHEN YOU PILOT UP OVER SEVERAL YEARS. WHEN YOU TAKE THE SERGEANT MAJORS THAT TOOK HIS PLACE WHEN HE LEFT HIS UNIT AND HIS POSITION ON HIM, HE CONTINUALLY LIED AND STRETCHED THE TRUTH AND LET YOU FILL IN THE BLANKS, DIDN'T CORRECT ANYONE. I'VE EMPLOYED TWICE TO COMBAT, ONCE ON-CHIP. DO YOU KNOW WHAT MY PARENTS WOULD DO TO ME IF I SAID I DEPLOYED THREE TIMES BECAUSE IN THE MARINE CORPS DEPLOYMENT MEANS YOU WENT TO COMBAT. YOU DON'T USE THAT TERM UNLESS IT IS APPLIED TO COMBAT. I CAN SEE I DEPLOYED THREE TIMES BUT REALLY I DEPLOYED TWICE. WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO SEMANTICS, THEY MATTER, AND THEY MATTER BECAUSE WHEN YOU CARE ABOUT THEM -- DO YOU KNOW WHAT YOU GET WHEN YOU DIE ON THE BATTLEFIELD? THE EXACT SAME AWARD I GOT FOR SIMPLY LOSING MY LEGS. A PURPLE HEART. SO AT THE END OF THE DAY IF YOU CARE ABOUT THOSE PEOPLE AND YOU WANT TO HONOR THEM, YOU DON'T TRY TO PUT YOURSELF ON THE SAME PEDESTAL THEY ARE ON. AND IN MY OPINION THAT IS WHAT HE DOES WHEN HE SITS THERE AND TALKS TO GOLD STAR FAMILY MEMBERS AND LIES ABOUT HIS OWN SERVICE IN ORDER TO CONNECT TO THEM, THAT IS A JOE BIDEN MOVE RIGHT THERE. FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO DON'T KNOW, HIS SON DID NOT DIE IN COMBAT, ALTHOUGH HE WOULD HAVE YOU BELIEVE HE DID. >> Kennedy: HE HAS MADE THAT CLAIM REPEATEDLY I THINK THAT IS WHY PEOPLE ARE SO SENSITIVE TO IT BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO BE LIED TO AND THEY DON'T WANT TO BE MISLED. P THINGS ARE HARD ENOUGH OR PEOPLE THAT IT IS AN ODD WAY FOR HIM TO CONNECT, BUT IT HASN'T JUST BEEN ABOUT HIS MILITARY SERVICE, HE HAS ALSO DONE THE SAME THING WHEN HE TALKS ABOUT HIS WIFE'S FERTILITY STRUGGLES AND HE TALKS ABOUT IVF. HIS WIFE DIDN'T HAVE IVF. YOU KNOW, THAT'S AN INCREDIBLY EMOTIONAL AND EXPENSIVE AND INVASIVE PROCEDURE. SHE DIDN'T HAVE THAT VERY PROCEDURE. BUT HE IMPLIES THAT SHE HAS. DOES HE HAVE A GLITCH? >> Emily: I DON'T KNOW WHERE THIS IS COMING FROM. WHAT YOU SAID WAS SO POWERFUL. AND IN MY OWN TINY WAY, I JUST SAY THAT AS HUMANS AND AMERICANS, WE ALL HAVE OUR COMPLEX AND PERSONAL EXPERIENCES AND IF YOU ARE RUNNING FOR THAT HIGH OF AN OFFICE, THAN IT DOESN'T MATTER OR SHOULD IT MATTER WHAT YOUR PARTICULAR EXPERIENCE WAS BECAUSE IT WILL RESONATE WITH MANY PEOPLE VIA ITS AUTHENTICITY. SO YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE TO LIE ABOUT ANYTHING. THE FACT HE LIES ABOUT EVERYTHING BECAUSE THAT IS A LIE COME A LITTLE EMBELLISHMENT COME A LITTLE SLIP OF SEMANTICS, THAT IS A LIE AN END IT IS CERTAINLY A LIE AT THE HIGHEST, HUBRIS, INSULT WAY WHEN IT IS DEMEANING OUR MEN AND WOMEN IN SERVICE AND IT DEMEANS ALL OF THE AMERICANS WAS VOTE HE WANTS TO EARN BECAUSE HE THINKS HE CAN POTABLE OVER OUR EYES AND IT IS FURTHERED THE ENTIRE WAY DOWN THE FIELD AND A LINE BY THE MEDIA WHO SAYS HE IS A REGULAR GUY AND WEARING -- BRINGING REGULAR BACK AND DOING THIS. THEY ARE CARRYING THE FOLKSY LOVE, THE CARICATURE AND VENEER THEY HAVE PAINTED AROUND HIM. IT IS DISGUSTING BECAUSE THEY ARE DOING WHAT THEY DID TO BIDEN, WHICH IS FORGIVE HIM FOR 30 YEARS AND MAKE IT OKAY TO BE A PATHOLOGICAL LIAR. >> Kennedy: DID SHE NEED HIM IN THAT INTERVIEW? >> Greg: I THINK SO. SHE LOOKED VERY MISERABLE AND UNCOMFORTABLE. I DO THINK THERE IS A OF SOCIAL ANXIETY THAT KIND OF ENVELOPS HER. WHEN I WAS IN 'MAMA, SPRING BREAK 2010 COME I DON'T TALK ABOUT IT COME I DON'T BRING IT UP, IT WAS TOUGH. YOU KNOW, I HAD TO FLY BUSINESS BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE FIRST. I KNOW, IT'S HARD. I WON'T GET INTO THE SITUATION WITH THE SENATOR APPEARED AGAIN IT GOES BACK TO THE PICK AND CHA QUESTION. THE QUESTION WAS ABOUT HIS LIES. HE PIVOTS TO IT BEING ABOUT HIS SERVICE. THAT'S HIS WAY OUT. NO ONE IS QUESTIONING HIS SERVICE BUT HIM. >> Joey: EXACTLY. >> Greg: HE IS THE ONE WHO IS DEMEANING SERVICE. NO ONE ELSE DID. ALSO DANA BASH HELPS HIM OUT BY GROUPING THE LIES TOGETHER SO IT GIVES HIM THE OPTION OF NOT CHOOSING THE MORE SERIOUS LIES. THE DWI THING IS A BIG DEAL, HIS CAMPAIGN COVERED IT UP. IT'S HUGE. I BELIEVE SHE HAD THAT LIE TACT AND WITH ANOTHER LIE. I DON'T THINK HE EVEN ADDRESSED IT. HE NEVER ADDRESSED IT. IT'S THE SAME PIVOT, WITH WHAT I MENTIONED BEFORE, KAMALA, WHEN THEY WERE SAYING DO YOU HAVE REGRETS LYING TO AMERICA, SHE TURNED IT INTO REGRETS SERVING WITH JOE. HE DOESN'T SAME THING WITH HIS MILITARY SERVICE AND THEN SHE HELPS THEM, THROUGH YOUR LIES, JUST PICK ONE. HE PICKS THE EASY ONE, TURNS IT INTO PEOPLE GOING AFTER HIS KIDS AND HIS DOG. THANK GOD FOR INTERNET TROLLS. BECAUSE IF ONE PERSON HAD NOT MADE A QUIP ABOUT HIS KIDS OR HIS DOG, HE NEVER WOULD HAVE ANY DEFENSE AT ALL. THEY ARE SO GRATEFUL WHEN ONE PERSON ON THE INTERNET OUT OF 100 MILLION PEOPLE GOES ON AND SAYS, HEY, WHAT ABOUT YOUR DOG. THANK GOD, NOW I CAN BE THE VICTIM. NOW I'M THE VICTIM. HOW DARE YOU GO AFTER MY DOCTOR MY CHILD, IT'S ONE PERSON IN A TRAILER PARK. >> Kennedy: JILLIAN, HE SAYS HE IS CANDID BUT IS THAT CODE FOR LYANNE? >> Gillian: THE ONLY THING HE WAS CANDID ABOUT LAST NIGHT, THE ONLY THING HE TOOK ON, THE ONLY ISSUE HE ADDRESSED AT ALL, THE ONLY THING HE TALKED ABOUT WAS HIS FAMILY. WHICH COULD NOT BE REALLY FARTHER FROM THE PURPOSE OF THIS INTERVIEW, FROM THE REASON THAT HE IS SITTING THERE, WHICH IS SO AMERICA CAN LEARN MORE ABOUT THIS PERSON WHO MOST PEOPLE HAVE NEVER HEARD OF BEFORE OR HAD NEVER HEARD OF BEFORE A MONTH AGO. THERE WAS A SURVEY BEFORE HE ASCENDED TO THE TICKET THAT 90% OF PEOPLE IN AMERICA DIDN'T KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT HIM TO HAVE AN OPINION. SO WE KNOW THE BACKSTORY NOW. HE HAS TOLD HIS PERSONAL STORY OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN AT THE RALLIES, AT THE DNC, LAST NIGHT WAS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR HIM TO GET INTO IT. WHAT'S YOUR VISION? WHAT DO YOU CARE ABOUT? WHAT DO YOU STAND FOR? SAME THING WITH HARRIS. IT SEEMS LIKE BOTH OF THEM