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ABC news reports that uh uh reading now former president Donald Trump has begun to shut down the possibility of a second debate against vice president KL Harris after debating her Tuesday night claiming he doesn't need to debate her again because he won the debate uh Trump told ABC News late Tuesday well she wants a second debate because she lost tonight very badly so we'll uh think about that but she immediately called for a second um and then uh later on he was talking to Hannity and he said the same kind of thing he's going to think about another debate we're looking at it but when you win you don't really necessarily have to do it a second time so we'll see but we had uh I thought we had a great debate last night I just don't know we'll think about it okay I think Trump is on the right track here um I may be in the minority among conservatives or maybe I'm not I don't know but I think that Trump should not do a second debate um and I think he should just say that he's not doing it I don't think that we should do this thing of uh being koi about it and hey we'll think about it and I don't know um I know that Trump is a showman so likes to drag these kinds of things out and will he or won't he you know very real reality tves but I think in this case uh it it kind it makes you look like you're waffling and and it could make you look like you're weak or scared so it's better to just say no whatever your answer is just give it and say look obviously here's my answer to this and stick to it um and but I agree that you can't walk into another three-on-one cage match situation it would be totally ridiculous politically suicidal really to volunteer to be ganged up on again um it it would that would never happen in the reverse K Harris of course her campaign would never she would never want to and her campaign would never in a million years allow her to walk into a situation where where they know that there's going to be two moderators who are against her actively and trying to embarrass her the entire way um not ever going to happen it's like it's like signing up for a boxing match where the ref is being paid by the other guy and you know it and yet you go no it's not it's you're not going to you're not going to do that and not because you're scared of the guy but because it's just why would I it's it's completely rigged I'm not gonna I'm not GNA take part in my own um you know I'm not gonna allow you to screw me over and volunteer for it so if you if you were to agree to it if Trump was to agree to a debate it would have to be somewhere other than mainstream corporate media well it could be on Fox um better yet you could do it somewhere totally outside of the cable news box you know I would push for a you know an unmoderated debate would be great um I've been saying that forever I'm not the only one but I'd love to see a debate where okay it's two hours and we've got four topics uh and we're going to do 30 minutes on each topic so if there's a moderator that's the only thing the moderator is doing is just okay here's the first topic go and once we get to about 30 minutes I'll throw the next Topic at you and that's all that I'm doing as the moderator I'm not doing anything else um I I think that would be interesting uh doing a doing a debate on Joe Rogan or or you know if you want to bring this into the 21st century and go on one of these podcasts and it doesn't have to be an official kind of traditionally formatted debate but just have both candidates sit there and talk to Joe for two and a half hours that would be very revealing would tell us way more than any of these kind of Stuffy formatted uh scripted debates on a news channel but Kam is never going to agree to that obviously she's only going to agree to a traditional moderated debate and um and I don't think Trump should willingly walk into that again uh it it won't be fair it'll be rigged and look uh I mean this part I know I will be in the minority but I don't it it's not a great format for Trump um Trump is not he had some great debate performances in 2016 but he hasn't had a great one since then there was the Biden one in this cycle uh but you know Biden was decaying on screen he he has dementia and so I mean he would have lost if he was debating nobody right uh not to take anything away from Trump but that's just you know we know that so it's hard to count that and and and uh you got to go back then to 2016 in 2016 it was so unorthodox nobody ever seen anything like this the way that Trump approaches these things it was so bewildering for his opponents both in the primaries especially in the primaries but even in the general election that he kind of knocked his opponents back on their heels and they never figured out that was the whole story of 2016 that they first his primary opponents especially you know they got fed to the Wolves completely they had no idea what what they were getting themselves into um and and then Hillary too they just never figured out how to approach this well Trump's been in politics now for almost a decade he's he's the the shock factor in the novelty is worn off completely as it would for anybody I mean you've been doing this for 10 years um which means that now if you want to win the debat if you want to win one of these kind of old-fashioned standard uh political debates you got to kind of win it the oldfashioned way um W which means a disciplined performance giving clean crisp answers staying relentlessly on message right that's what it means to be good at one of those kinds of debates there's a it's a particular skill set especially when you know you got the moderators against you but even without the even if the moderators were were playing it relatively fairly uh it's it if you take out 2016 as kind of an outlier we're sort of back into to into what it's always been which is it's a particular skill set to succeed in one of those debates uh because it's not even really a debate that's the point you're not really debating kamla Harris did not debate Donald Trump the moderators debated Trump more than kamla did the only thing kamla did was she went in there and she had a whole bunch of script she had her script memorized and she did a good job of memorizing it and she had her talking points and she just stuck to them you know she stuck to them the whole way and she gave pretty concise for her especially pretty concise crisp uh answers and she put out a whole bunch of sound bites out there that could circulate and that's the game that's how you win these debates Trump style is much more um freewheeling and and kind of uh word association um stream of consciousness and these kinds of debates it just does that style doesn't doesn't work for the it it just you end up you end up with what we saw which is kind of like you're going around in circles and you you you hit a couple of good points you have a couple good moments but then you keep talking and you sort of step on your own good moments um it's a style that works really well for uh say his rallies I think it would work that's why I say if he could sit down with Joe Rogan if kamla would if if it would be Kamala Trump and Rogan I'd give Advantage Trump all day for that because that's that is in Trump's wheelhouse we're having a he's a free willing guy we're having a free willing conversation uh and Trump can hang in there he's not going to get flustered uh he's always got something to say now now Kamala it's not being you know it's not like oh you have 60 seconds go it's a conversation so now kamla has to try to get word and edgewise she'd have difficulty doing that she has to try to keep up and follow you know kind of follow the the leader as As Trump is uh is talking and I think she would it would be a disaster for her but again that's why she's not going to do that she's not ever gonna so that's what we're at we're we're you have two candidates who could not be more opposite both ideologically but also stylistically and Kamala is is not going to walk into a scenario where it tell doesn't play to her strengths she's not ever going to do it uh Trump I mean to his credit he's been willing to walk into scenarios that don't play to his strengths as much uh but I think now you done it don't let's we don't need to do that again for the same reason that she's not going to do it so if she's not going to do it why do you do it um and so I think you just leave that be and uh you you don't need to say no because it's not like you're scared you're saying uh yeah I'd be happy to talk to you again here are the the scenarios where I would be willing to talk to you and by the way I want to talk to you in in in places where it's the opposite of being scared here it's like I I want to actually be able to have a conversation I don't want you to have all these guard rails and protections by the moderator right I want to take the training wheels off and have a real discussion um and I think honestly I I the more I think about it I think I think Trump should come back and propose exactly that she he should propose exactly let's sit down with Joe Rogan you and me she's not ever going to do it but uh then no one can accuse him of being scared he doesn't want to talk to her he said let's talk for three hours what do he say if You' like to see what else I have to say you can access my full show by going to dailywire.com or by going to the Matt wall Show Twitter page hope to see you there godp speed