I think you know I think I think PCH will do well and I I know he's not perfect and I know the Chelsea time and the PSG time in the end where maybe more um or less successful than maybe we thought it might be maybe but I think this is a good signing do you and obviously there's the World Cup coming up and which I would think is a Bigg appeal for poch to have accepted the job do you think he will do well do you think he has enough time now in two years to get things ready for why he still a young Squad and we can debate of the talent of the squad there there is a lot of talent in certain positions not so much in others where do you think what what do you think he would do so a couple things on that one um you know if we say Do Well define success right in some ways we're talking quarterfinals yeah that's exactly what I was going to say that should be the objective right but you look at it and you say okay well this team's the round to 16 a billion different times um that's kind of been the hurdles the quarterfinal semi-final whatever um it seems to me like you're at home in a world cup is that really an ambitious goal is this why I'm paying PCH you know could I not get any old American to do that could Jesse Marsh not do that right yeah so I think that's an unfair way to look at it I think I think his impact is to go go beyond um simply what results you get in the tournament because that could also come down to the draw it could come down to many different things and it comes down to talent and player availability when we talk about I just throw something out to you right who is very good and has been very good and productive on the pitch for and is a US player in the last 12 months I would argue I'll go first P yeah that's the obvious one yeah could make a case for Anthony Robinson yeah right I guess Club level yeah okay then yeah then is difficult you know what I mean like I know some of our college going about Weston mckenny oh West you know like you played the third third most minutes for ju yes the ju team that wasn't spending anything well s for yunus Musa he's not really a starter enough Milan to musa's not there yet Tyler Adams I no idea if he's injured again I'm assuming he is right um cuz he usually is J Des career went nowhere Matt Turner a reserve maybe there's other Keepers who can SL step up I I don't know yeah the of course joa is obviously I think the the prime example of all of this joena because he's the aded he's the value added right he with pich are the guys who you know in theory who not in theory in practice have this incredible ability you know I kind of feel like you've got two years to play consistent consistently harness that the reason it's important for these guys to play consistency is that if you can play consistency consistently at a high level you also bring with you experience leadership yeah yeah all these things that you know and you can learn by playing at a high level for an extended period of time at a Champions League club and I think the reality is mckenny you can argue's done that a little bit and Page has done that I I might be forgetting somebody not you think that Tim at U in the Champions League with Thiago Mota if he's really a starter can improve massively I think that's a big if that's another same with Balon and Monaco in the Champions League as well so all that experience that you mentioning they can get that between now and the World Cup and they will be obviously be two years older as well I'm hoping that a t testman in France Al if he does play and get that starting place first John texter reference of the show not the last one could really improve too so I think I think there's huge potential maybe just need to be unlocked a little bit I don't know if I would use the word huge potential there is potential there is considering the World Cup is at home for them that becomes huge potential because if if you develop that potential plus the home crowd plus the support being in your own country all of that that can be a very good World Cup it should be a very good World Cup um I think the tools are there but I think really the impact for him is going to be the way he's going to be judged is going to be more broadly more culturally can he put the sport on the map in the US in a more mainstream way and a more lasting way right because we know they all tune in when there's the World Cup men's are women's and stuff like that but then people lose sight of these guys I I feel like I could be wrong on this I'm not an expert but I feel for like sort of the nonf football fan in the US they will tune in for the World Cup the way they tune in for the Olympics right yeah watch it I get really into it and then oh look um you know NFL training camps are starting right that I think is the challenge for that great League forward it's not like it's not just it's not like poo Sol it for himself but it is an opportunity and the way he talks about the US Men's National Team and the way the way he deals with it in the coming years I think is a factor yeah no I agree I absolutely agree with that I just I just think this is a good they needed they needed to do something different really after after Greg Balter after all those years they had the love of applications from big names big names manager I think not just them but Guk too see what I did there I don't know if G was a was a candidate but I know that they've had some massive names putting them themselves forward for the job which is great so it shows that it's appealing but the workup being obviously in the US helps massively for that but I I just think they had to do something different they did and now I just hope it works the fact that PO worked with people who are in at the top of the Federation is also so a good thing I think helps M crer knows him really well they know each other well from Southampton they I think they've worked together before they can trust each other which is something that maybe he didn't have in Paris for example the relationship between him and the people above him was not that great I think if if that relationship is great now between Po and the people above him that's also added value and again I think in his case I think he's he's he's a really bright guy yeah yeah he's smart he can be stubborn but with this period out some self- evaluation and this brings us on my next topic I'm sure that his people pitched him to other clubs there were big job openings in the summer um I need didn't get them yeah right um and I think there is undeniably there is a bit of a trend yeah where a lot of clubs are saying I don't value experience as much I'm going to go with a younger player so obviously we mentioned artetta at Arsenal before I mean Fabian Herzel are perhaps an extreme example at Brighton um although Brighton there's a theme there because before that obviously the zabe was in kind of in a similar boat and before that grand Potter Cho Chris hon not so much but um Bayern company like we said it happens that somebody like Joseph Mourinho is now in uh is now in Turkey um I think there's a feeling that clubs look at this and say I don't yeah look obviously nchu or pep gordola is a major value ad but a younger coach will often be more even more hardworking or can be more hardworking especially if they have a little track record because some Expos who going into coaching all of a sudden I mean we've heard this from Stevie nickel many times right it is a lot more work to coach a team than to play in the team just more pressure more work you're always like a 247 job almost yeah yeah some people thrive in that I mean ATA for example has shown that abely so some people so you get somebody who's more motivated to work to make a name for themselves you get somebody who is necessarily I think more up to date with current methods you know less set in his ways because he's had fewer influences yeah you get somebody who's cheaper which I think is really important we we we don't often talk about the compensation of coaches and stuff like that although weirdly we're we will talk about it with players but I think that's that's a big part of it well as well and I think you got somebody who's more who's more malleable who's more pliable absolutely um Ango manesa Chelsea like I'm not saying he's a yes man but it's pretty obvious that if I in my I guy and I rock up at Chelsea and Chelsea say this is how we do things these are the directors of football this is our business plan can you work within it I'll say yes somebody like Chino or Mourinho yeah or I mean Conte was likely to get Napoli but yeah con is an extreme case but or uran k even from some of many of the reports that we've had about you know out of Liverpool about why Michael Edwards left and then came back after klopp was no longer there they indicate that the manager says wait this is my team I'm the coach I'm the guy who to face the media Afters I want to have more of a say in things yeah right because I work with the players every every day right I don't know that clubs want somebody like that and and I think they're realizing that this costs us money this interferes with other parts of the club it can be a little bit bad for morale and yeah if it's pep and you know if pep says oh sign me a dog to be earling Holland's backup they'll be like woof woof sure here you go Pho but most clubs aren't going to do that he's P he's an outlier yeah yeah it depends as well as your ownership there's some owners who want to have that control that want to be heavy-handed in but it's not the owner's control it's the owner I I I think this is the wrong way to think about it it's the club the CEO yeah together with the owner deciding this is how we're going to pay a lot spend a lot of money on Sky lot of money on analytics a lot of money on these fancy directors of football who were once at Monaco and Red Bull blah blah blah and we're going to look at this in the medium and long term we're going to have commercial considerations a manager I don't care what they say they always think shortterm because it's their backside on the line right yeah absolutely yeah no it's I think it's really interesting I think we need a bit more time to see if it's really a trend or if I some some point some clubs go back to experience and also Bia Dortmund winning mentality yeah but lusin true but chabo has won now but there was a point where if you don't win if company doesn't win with with Bayern he's not going to stay at Bayern no and he's easier to Fire and he's cheaper to fire than somebody you bring in than jho was with the kind of contract he was I'm all I'm all I'm all for young younger managers give them a chance Etc at the end of the day if they don't win it's not going to last so I think that's going to be the bench we're not saying it's right or wrong we're saying that it's happening because this is what a lot of clubs believe I'm trying to think new hires at Big clubs of managers who are who have had success and are established and expensive I can think of Hy flick yeah K yeah in this summer yeah Luis Enrique I guess the summer before that Luis Enrique Paris sangman that's there's not too many others obviously when he came to Chelsea there's not too many others right no that's true um so you know I I think it's fair to speak of a trend here [Music]