I know this game isn't oh didn't have Ray or Ed but can you can you talk to The Listener about having to try to prepare against those two guys yeah um that's I'm sure like when you talk about a defensive coordinator trying to get ready for Manning or Brady um you know those guys that were really intelligent and and could play the game in their mind too that's what that felt like when you were getting ready to play Reed Lewis sugs to me there's not that many teams that I've coached against where I would say that there was the volume of players that they had at one time that were as instrumental in terms of knowing what was coming seeing the formation overplaying Tendencies being able to adjust getting their teammates in the right position it was really hard to you know cuz as a coach you want to prepare your team as best you can you also want to try to scheme some success mhm so it's not like hey you know good luck Jules you know get out there and get them on every play like there's definitely plays where it's like all right Jules you're gonna got to come through here and you came through you know a ton it's just you want to try to help your players as much as you can by giving them something that's like okay this is going to work yeah and it's it's going to not trick the defense but there's going to be an element uh a little foreshadowing there's going to be a little you know a little you know where it's simpler to have some success and it was hard against them it just wasn't that was not simple yeah it wasn't simple I I just remember any time we' play Ed Reed or Ray Lewis bill would show like a 20 play cut up on just both of those there'd be a 30 minute team presentation like to start the day of just a highlight of these two this guy will [ __ ] blow you up like just that kind of [ __ ] yeah oh cover three that's what you thought and like Edward re would be in the second you know what I mean like his favorite thing to say to us was that they don't need to play split safety defense because they just play post safety and Ed covers both sides of the field and it may and it like got in your head as like I'm like you know as a coach you're like oh man like what can we throw it back there or no ever you know what I mean like and I remember Tom like we'd have conversations and it was always part of the conversation but that that's that's a tribute to the greatness of the player yeah because when you're looking at him going he can cover everything back there and you're thinking about that that makes you question whether or not you know you can do something oh yeah Bill Love Ed re didn't he like just loved him loved him where does he rank on the alltime Mount Rushmore of like guys that weren't Patriots that bill loved High I was going to say I always as a fan I would always hear that that weren't Patriots that he didn't coach there's a caveat there yeah yeah there you go Lawrence Taylor would be at the top there is no Mount brushmore okay there's Lawrence and then then there's the mountain whenever yeah that's that um Ed Reed Ed Reed is at he's on he's in he's in the Mount Rushmore 100% right is there anybody else in there yeah I mean Ed was Ed was such a he like Troy he lik Troy like palalo he like palalo they were different players edri was a completely different player than Troy you know we end well hell we ended up with a lot of the guys that he loved Rodney Junior like it was like if we loved him enough we would try to get him like Randy Randy like I'm just saying like there was some lot lot of love Doo all that all the miked up Clips with them talking [ __ ] to each other pregame oh it's [ __ ] oh yeah oo's yeah he's something but that like that's that's what happened I love that like you know like you you you like them enough I don't know they never made those kind of I like these two guys like dating it's like you're dating life you know you huh hey we're chilling right now okay chilling we're chilling chilling on that