TRAFFORD FROM THEIR BIGGEST RIVALS IS A STATEMENT FOR 28 AND LIVERPOOL. ROBBIE WHICH IS THE BIGGEST STORY UNITED LOSING THAT, LIVERPOOL WINNING IT? >> LIVERPOOL WINNING IT WHEN YOU LOOK BACK AT THE NEW MANAGER COMING IN I THINK HE HAS MADE THREE BIG CALLS, PLAYING AS A NUMBER NINE. RYAN PLAYING IN MIDFIELD AND BASICALLY THE SHAPE OF THE TEAM AND THE WAY THEY HAVE PRESSED IS VERY DIFFERENT. AND SO FAR IT LOOKS VERY GREAT, THEY LOOK BALANCED I THINK WE HAVE KNOWN THAT LIVERPOOL'S FORWARDS ARE REALLY GOOD. LIKE REALLY TALENTED, CREATIVE AND EVERYTHING BUT THERE WAS A BIT OF A GUNG UP AND DOWN NATURE AT LAST SEASON MAYBE THE SEASON BEFORE THAT. SO THE BALANCE SEEMS NICER THE BLEND IS GOOD. THE SLOT IS VERY LOW-KEY WITH THE FANS KEEPING IT VERY SIMPLE RIGHT NOW, IT IS VERY EARLY BUT THAT WAS REALLY IMPRESSIVE FROM HIS TEAM. >> IT SO INTERESTING BECAUSE ARNE SLOT HAS BEEN THERE THREE GAMES AND HE DESCRIBED FOR US THE CHANGE IN LIVERPOOL NOT THAT IT NEEDED THAT MUCH CHANGE BUT JUST CHANGE TO HIS STYLE AND THE UNITED FANS REMAIN FRUSTRATED THAT THERE IS STILL NO IMPACT AND AGAIN WE SAW THE PROBLEMS BAREFACED TODAY. >> IT'S ALMOST GETTING DIFFICULT TO CONTINUE TO DISSECT MEN UNITED WHICH WE WILL DO BUT THERE IS NO IDENTITY, WE KNOW THAT. THIS IS A TURN UP A LOT OF TIMES IN BIG GAMES BECAUSE THEY HAVE SPECIAL PLAYERS. THEN OTHER TIMES THEY LEAVE YOU WANTING MORE AND IT'S A BIT FLAT AND I SUPPOSE THE REAL QUESTION WILL HAPPEN WHEN YOU HAVE ANOTHER WINDOW WHEN THOSE PLAYERS CAN SETTLE AND HOW LONG DOES THAT TAKE? A COUPLE MONTHS, SURE, BUT AT A CERTAIN POINT YOU HAVE TO CONTINUE TO ASK THE QUESTIONS OF ERIK TEN HAG BECAUSE WE CAN SAY HE DOESN'T HAVE HIS BEST PLAYERS AND ALL THAT, THAT DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH IDENTITY WHEN WE LOOK ACROSS TO AT TOTTENHAM WHEN HIS INJURIES AND HIS TEAM STILL LOOKS A CERTAIN WAY WHETHER YOU AGREE WITH THAT OR NOT, THEY HAVE A CERTAIN STYLE. THIS CONCEPT OF THE NEW PLAYERS ARE GOING TO COME IN THEN WE CAN ASSESS. I THINK WE UNDERSTAND WHO ERIK TEN HAG IS. >> NEW OWNERS COMING INTO THE CLUB AND THEY MADE A HUGE CALL TO STICK WITH THIS MANAGER. >> WHAT DID YOU FEEL? >> I THINK I SAID ON HERE I AM VERY SURPRISED I THOUGHT THEY WOULD'VE CHANGED MANAGERS AS WELL. THEY HAVE GOOD SIGNINGS THEN CHANGE EVERYTHING. AND I TELL YOU WHAT THAT DOES AS WELL TODAY, IF SOMEBODY ELSE IS MANAGER TODAY AND BY THE WAY THIS IS TRUE, IT IS TRANSITIONAL. AND THERE IS DIFFERENT PAIRS COMING IN AND IT WILL TAKE SOME TIME BUT A DIFFERENT MANAGER SAY FOR EXAMPLE THERE YOU GO, THAT KIND OF THE JOB HE'S GOT, WHAT HE HAS TO DEAL WITH AND TRY TO IMPROVE SO I THINK A DIFFERENT MANAGER IS THE TRANSITION PERIOD, IT IS, THEY DECIDED TO GO FOR HIM, THE FANS I SPOKE TO I HAVE LISTENED AND READ ARE KIND OF LIKE YOU KNOW WHAT LET'S STICK WITH OUR MAN, THERE YOU GO, YOU GOT HIM AND IT CONTINUES AND IT WILL TAKE TIME. >> FANS HAVE TO DO THAT BECAUSE EVERY TIME A NEW SEASON COMES THEY HAVE TO BE OPTIMISTIC AND GIVE THEMSELVES SOMETHING TO HOPE FOR EVEN IF THEY DON'T NECESSARILY WHOLEHEARTEDLY BELIEVE IT. >> I THINK THE MAJORITY WANTED HIM TO CONTINUE AND WERE HAPPY ENOUGH WITH THAT. >> THEY DID TALK TO OTHER MANAGERS IN THE SUMMER AND EVENTUALLY DECIDED TO EXTEND ERIK TEN HAG'S CONTACT, AND I KNEW WHEN THEY EXTENDED IT BECAUSE IT WAS SUCH A DECISION DO YOU THINK THEN, NOW THERE LIKE WE HAVE TO STICK WITH HIM LONGER. >> ABSOLUTELY AND TO ALL THE PLAYERS COME AND WE WILL HEAR IT FROM THE MANAGER AFTERWARDS ABOUT TRANSITION AND NEW PLAYERS, I KNOW WHAT YOU MEAN AND I GET IT AND I AGREE WITH THE IDENTITY DOESN'T SEEM TO BE A STRONG ONE BUT ALMOST HALF OF THE TEAM WILL CHANGE. THE NEW GUY COMING IN AND THE PLAYERS GETTING FIT AND READY. CASEMIRO, I THINK WE HAVE TO BE PATIENT IT WAS A HORRIBLE ONE FOR UNITED AGAIN IN THIS ONE BUT I THINK WITH THE DECISIONS MADE BY THE HIERARCHY AND THE PLAYERS THAT LOOKED GOOD COMING IN I GUESS MORE TIME. >> LET'S TAKE YOU BACK TO OUR COMMENTARY TEAM. LIVERPOOL AS ROBBIE SAID OF COURSE THE STORY BECAUSE THEY WON 3-0 BUT MANCHESTER UNITED LOSING IS ALWAYS A MASSIVE STORY. >> IT IS AND IT INTERESTING AREA >> Jon: CONTRASTING WHAT THEY ARE SAYING AND THEIR REVIEWS FROM THE STUDIO 3000 MILES AWAY AND FRANKLY THE MUTINOUS AIR THAT WE EXPERIENCED ONCE THE THIRD GOAL HAD GONE IN HERE FROM THE MANCHESTER UNITED FANS. >> Graeme: YOU EXPECT, THEY ARE REALLY PATIENT THE FANS, BUT IT IS SUCH A COMPLICATED PUZZLE THAT YOU ARE TRYING TO BUILD WHEN YOU ARE WORKING WITH AS I MENTIONED IT BEFORE THE HISTORY OF THE CLUB IN THE EXPECTATION AND THE IDENTITY THIS PERIOD OF CHANGE THAT THEY DON'T SEEM TO HAVE BEEN PROACTIVE SO THEY ARE TRYING TO DO WITH SO MANY DIFFERENT THINGS AT ONCE PLUS THEN WEEKLY RESULTS THAT COME OUT WHICH TODAY IS A DISASTER THE WAY THEY HAVE PLAYED. SO I THINK I MENTIONED IT IN COMMENTARY ABOUT HIM BEING A BIG PLAYER, ONE THAT IS PHYSICAL IN MIDFIELD. AND THEN, IF HE CAN'T GET RESULTS FROM THE TEAM WITH HIM IN THERE I THINK HE IS ON THE MASSIVE PRESSURE IMMEDIATELY. BUT, YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT WHO IS AVAILABLE, WHO WANTS TO COME. WHICH SERIOUS MANAGER WOULD COME TO MANCHESTER UNITED AT THE MOMENT OR WHAT THEY WANT THEM TO TRY TO GET SOME OF THESE PROBLEMS SOLVED BEFORE THEY COME IN AND THEN BUILD SOMETHING THAT'S POSITIVE? THAT'S THE CHALLENGE. >> Jon: TAKE A BREATH, CALM DOWN. BRIEFLY TALK TO US ABOUT LIVERPOOL. >> Graeme: FANTASTIC. MANCHESTER CITY YESTERDAY WERE AS GOOD AS I HAVE SEEN THEM FOR A LONG TIME IN TERMS OF THEIR QUALITY. LIVERPOOL TODAY REALLY EXCEPTIONAL. PARTICULARLY I WAS IMPRESSED WITH SZOBOSZLAI BUT THE GUYS WERE MENTIONING AND WE SPOKE ABOUT IN COMMENTARY, THE SHAPE OF THE TEAM AND BALANCE AND THE BALANCE BETWEEN TAKING RISKS AND PREPARING TO SORT OF COVER YOURSELVES DEFENSIVELY, THEY GOT THAT RIGHT IN THE MAIN. THEY ARE AN EXCITING TEAM AND HOPEFULLY THEY CAN BE A REAL COMPETITIVE FOR MANCHESTER CITY THIS SEASON. >> Jon: THEY HOPE TO BE A GENERALLY CENTRAL COMPONENT AND FADING LATE ON IN THE EARLY SIGNS ARE GOOD. THEY SCORED AS MANY GOALS AS HEARTLAND AND THAT SEEMS TO