so you you um I guess if we're looking at Grand Final teams do you think that's a bit of a stretch for the Bulldogs that you'd have obviously the the Panthers and the storm ahead of them in that regard would maybe your two grand final teams at this stage without doubt without doubt you know you've seen the roers they didn't even compete against Melbourne um I don't know what's what's lacking with the roosters to actually be that because they got a they got a good roster um they they play some they can play really good football um you know I like the way semi Walker plays with a bit of you know off the cuff footy I like that because you can see you know different creativity it's not all the same out the out the back out the back stuff we we continually see um